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Offline splerdu

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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2022, 09:00:59 PM »
If there is one lesson to be learned here, it is the importance of having a fully independent foreign policy which reminds me of what Claro M. Recto has been saying all this time.

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Sentimentalism and emotionalism should not play a part in international relations. It is folly to expect any nation to ever sacrifice its welfare and security to pure idealism or to sentimental attachments. As Filipinos, we must look out for ourselves, because no one else will. That is the essence of our independence.


^ or why picking a boneheaded fight with China over a bunch of islands claimed by at least four other countries has always been a bad idea.



Opinion/analysis piece on sanctions:
New world order: Russia has just turned itself into a commodity superpower



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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2022, 09:58:13 PM »
If there is one lesson to be learned here, it is the importance of having a fully independent foreign policy which reminds me of what Claro M. Recto has been saying all this time.

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Sentimentalism and emotionalism should not play a part in international relations. It is folly to expect any nation to ever sacrifice its welfare and security to pure idealism or to sentimental attachments. As Filipinos, we must look out for ourselves, because no one else will. That is the essence of our independence.


^ or why picking a boneheaded fight with China over a bunch of islands claimed by at least four other countries has always been a bad idea.



Opinion/analysis piece on sanctions:
New world order: Russia has just turned itself into a commodity superpower




Well, that works too although I was thinking more along the lines of when China eventually invades Taiwan to reunify or when China and U.S. rivalry eventually escalates into armed conflict because the Americans are pivoting to Asia now and will try to contain China thru Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, India, and possibly us.

Historically speaking, countries who have remained "neutral" were mostly spared from heavy casualties during the previous world war like Sweden, Finland and even Thailand... while we got clobbered pretty bad all because of our affiliations with the Americans.  We are of strategic and logistical importance to the Americans because we serve as a shield or barrier for them into the Pacific and nothing more. Do we really want to be part of that?

I think moving forward, what our foreign policy should be is that that we will continue to work and maintain friendly relations with any or all countries (including U.S. and China) in matters concerning economic partnerships and cooperation. Any defense related cooperation, we maintain observer status at best but will not be fully affiliated... In case war breaks out, we will never have to choose sides. We just tell them off and say sorry, just duke it out amongst themselves, we will have none of it.

We will still have to shore up our military capability but it will mostly serve as deterrent or similar to Singapore's "poison shrimp" defense doctrine.

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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2022, 11:19:26 PM »
The problem with sanctioning Russia, applies even more to China if they decide to take Taiwan:

War in Ukraine: Britons support sanctions, but not if it means costs rise  | YouGov





The Ghost Of Kyiv -  if this is true then  this mig-29 pilot is a badass downing 6 jets

Feels like fake news from someone farming fake internet points.

Been glued to the broadcasts and Ukraine is claiming to have shot down 2 missiles and one jet. If someone in their air force downed 6 jets we'd be hearing a lot more about it.

https://taskandpurpose.com/analysis/ghost-kyiv/

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Hereís the problem with the Ghost of Kyiv. Every atom of my body tells me that this story is 99.9% bullshit, an ingenious piece of organic digital storytelling that morphed into a convenient grassroots propaganda narrative. But amid horrific footage that appears to show Russian fighter jets firing missiles at civilian populations, I want to believe ó and I know Iím not the only one.
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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2022, 07:42:15 AM »
If there is one lesson to be learned here, it is the importance of having a fully independent foreign policy which reminds me of what Claro M. Recto has been saying all this time.

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Sentimentalism and emotionalism should not play a part in international relations. It is folly to expect any nation to ever sacrifice its welfare and security to pure idealism or to sentimental attachments. As Filipinos, we must look out for ourselves, because no one else will. That is the essence of our independence.


The lesson is self-sufficiency in defense. Having allies is good but you have to be able to also do it on your own.

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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2022, 11:34:57 AM »
I'm afraid China will do the same to Taiwan. Xi must be thinking of it right now. tsk

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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2022, 03:36:37 PM »
The lesson is self-sufficiency in defense. Having allies is good but you have to be able to also do it on your own.

Except there's no such thing if a superpower with a crazy person at the helm suddenly goes all your base are belong to us.
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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2022, 04:46:46 PM »
"The Ghost of Kyiv" ace

https://youtu.be/ee3kW_Qwy8A
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« Reply #51 on: February 27, 2022, 08:45:21 PM »
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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2022, 04:57:23 PM »
Debunking fake Russia Ukraine War videos spread on social media.

Everything is fake lol!

That father having a tearly eyed farewell and sending away his wife and kids was going to fight... AGAINST Ukraine!

There were 82 guys on Snake island, not 13. And the Russians didn't kill those guys but instead helped them with food and water after they surrendered.

"Ghost of Kiev" is DCS
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« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2022, 03:21:50 PM »
EU to resupply Ukraine with ex-Soviet aircraft.

https://youtu.be/C2Sa8idATO0


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« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2022, 07:20:04 PM »
If I were Putin, I'd be wary of China. For now its supportive, but they are in a way rivals for influence in Asia, having fought several skirmishes and proxy wars in the past. Its likely observing Russia's performance in Ukraine just like Germany in Finland in 1939.

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Re: US/NATO VS Russia
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2022, 09:21:40 AM »
...& the world realized that the armament & military of russia is not what we where thinking about

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« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2022, 10:51:39 AM »
If I were Putin, I'd be wary of China. For now its supportive, but they are in a way rivals for influence in Asia, having fought several skirmishes and proxy wars in the past. Its likely observing Russia's performance in Ukraine just like Germany in Finland in 1939.

The CCP leadership is probably watching and learning from the mistakes of Putin and the global reaction to the invasion of Ukraine so they will know better if and when they invade Taiwan.

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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2022, 11:55:43 AM »
...& the world realized that the armament & military of russia is not what we where thinking about

kirov airship, tesla tank,  apocalypse tank  :)
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