Author Topic: US/NATO VS Russia (Read 4460 times)

Javellin anti tank is a game changer. 80 russians paratroopers captured while score of tanks was destroyed. 7 aircraft shotdown by the ukranian military. 40 ukranian military killed some border guards surrendered without a fight. Terminating the swift code will further weaken the ruble.

wheelee · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2022, 11:31:43 AM »

so what happens to those citizens of both country that are on both sides?

lahar · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2022, 11:42:24 AM »

Sadly there are reports that the home base of the world's largest and the only one of its kind Antonov-225 Miriya, Hostomel Airport has seen heavy fighting with early reports saying it has been destroyed. Though the airport has been retaken by Ukrainian forces and the plane is confirmed to be still intact.

The Miriya is and has been used to transport several important cargo to the Philippines such as the AW Lynxes and the Blackhawks.

splerdu · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2022, 02:04:17 PM »

Quote from: friendlyfire on February 25, 2022, 07:37:08 AM

Terminating the swift code will further weaken the ruble.

That seems iffy. Germany just outright voted against cutting off Russia from SWIFT.

Parang ayaw din ng US.

TBH I don't think the payment system is going to be turned off coz it affects EU too much. Germany made a big deal about shutting down coal and nuclear and replacing with renewables, but a lot of their power is now coming from gas. They'll shut down the Russian gas pipeline and buy from "Turkey" instead.

lahar · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2022, 02:24:46 PM »

friendlyfire · « **Reply #35 on:** February 25, 2022, 03:37:07 PM »

The Ghost Of Kyiv - if this is true then this mig-29 pilot is a badass downing 6 jets

alaeh · « **Reply #36 on:** February 25, 2022, 07:46:19 PM »

Man, I feel for the guy... his body language and sobering tone pretty much sums it up... that feeling of being abandoned and betrayed. At one point he already mentioned getting back in talks with Russia on the possibility of Ukraine becoming "neutral" which I think is the most rational choice and a step in the right direction. Be more like Finland.

If no one else is willing to help you, and you are getting beaten up, then what else can you really do?

As much as Ukraine feels it has every right to join NATO, the possibility of ICBMs being setup in Ukraine soil is simply driving the Russians nuts... and they have proven time and again that they are willing to go to war for it. That is just the reality of it. Ukraine is to Russia as Cuba is to the Americans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr3ACFyXB78

alaeh · « **Reply #37 on:** February 25, 2022, 08:23:13 PM »

If there is one lesson to be learned here, it is the importance of having a fully independent foreign policy which reminds me of what Claro M. Recto has been saying all this time.

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Sentimentalism and emotionalism should not play a part in international relations. It is folly to expect any nation to ever sacrifice its welfare and security to pure idealism or to sentimental attachments. As Filipinos, we must look out for ourselves, because no one else will. That is the essence of our independence.

wheelee · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2022, 08:36:19 PM »

what's china stance on this? Both countries are important her.
And what could it learn in the case of TW
sorry but i have limited news here in the middle kingdom

lahar · « **Reply #39 on:** February 25, 2022, 08:59:59 PM »

Quote from: wheelee on February 25, 2022, 08:36:19 PM

what's china stance on this? Both countries are important her.
And what could it learn in the case of TW
sorry but i have limited news here in the middle kingdom

Fully supportive of Putin.