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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2002, 02:46:22 AM »
Before this gets out of hand, people please read the very first post again.   Don't construe things from a posters last post.   The whole PPC isn't going subscriber only...  the suggestion was a premium account, for offline use (which translate to better use of online time/access, especially to internet cafe users or prepaid card holders).  



I myself am thinking of a prepaid/tally system for the troubleshooting section.

Buy a PPC prepaid Troubleshooting card, of which gives you a certain amount of credit.  To post and start a problem thread at the Troubleshooting section, you use up a credit.  People who think they can help, can post replies, which will cost less credit than if you start a thread ..now, if the thread starter says that post has helped him or not.  you gain back you posting credit, and earn some more.



Ha ha ha,  I'm thinking we can do this for all threads.   Each member gets 100 republic of PPC credits.  To post a new thread, or question... it will cost you 5 credits.   Post a reply, a comment, it will cost you 1 credit.   If thread starter or moderator likes your post, you gain 2 credits back.   The more nonesense you put in the boards, the less credit you earn.  



^_^  We don't even need money for this one.  PPC members can get 100 republic of PPC credits on sign-up, renewed only on moderators's approval (if ever a member just post and post nonesense) or on a mothly basis, whichever the mods want.  ^_^  Mods can add credits, anytime.  Members can loan credits too.. he he he.



Ok, far fetch na ata...and too much work ^_^



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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2002, 02:52:46 AM »
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That is a good question. Hosting something like an edsamail service would be a heavy task as well.




Yes. You'd have to buy phonelines from the telcos which are not cheap. I pressume this will be like a BBS thing?



How about:

1. Handhelds: maybe use existing technology rather than re-invent the wheel. I use mobi-pocket reader to read sites from CNN, ZDNet, The Onion, etc. Maybe the site can use RSS or Palm DOC files or whatever.

2. WAP: Maybe the same as #2? offline browsing of content?

3. Payment options? cash? check? major credit cards? paypal? mountain dew? pegasus girls?

 

500 bucks IS reasonable. Remember, that's for 1 year. The drawback is people might expect something in return. And that means more content. :-/

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2002, 02:54:07 AM »
prof,



i am in equal respect to your ideas. honestly.



you are correct. we all are a bunch of surfers looking for a place to belong

and be recognized.  then came PPC.



we have bonded together. shared our experiences. argued about senseful and senseless things. discussed and brainstormed ideas and opinions. thus we became one.  a solid Filipino tech community.  



basically its not the site. its how the site will affect the community.

if the site is only accessible to those who wants to pay, then the community will be lost.





to the mods, i congratulate you for performing a job very well done.







to Bryan,



i know that you have gone through a lot first before you have opted to start this thread. i salute you for this. i know that you have already realized  the reactions of the members beforehand.



please let us help you. let's discuss some more options that you may have disregarded before. i am not oppossed to the fee.  i am opposed to the concept of the fee. there are otherways.



if nothing else works, then there's GOD's ways!





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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2002, 02:56:35 AM »


Edited by /dave/null on 2002-09-20 02:57:06

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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2002, 02:58:56 AM »
I belive your fears are unfounded as Bryan only mentioned a premium account, not the whole PPC going offline/fee based access.  
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« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2002, 03:46:10 AM »
so this site will remain the same... even if the suggestion will be implemented?

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« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2002, 03:51:19 AM »
Just like geode said, if that 500 bucks would be more like of a membership fee to being a PPC club (or pinoy techie community club) member that would be even more acceptable.



Otherwise, people would think, why use my cents just to post my own views or just to answer questions that I know (the answer) of?



Troubleshooting support? That could be a different thing, as you really need to pay *sometimes* for support. But how many members need troubleshooting support? And *almost* every tech problems can be found in the internet.



Premium account. What would be the differences between premium and non-premium members in terms of accessing the forum aside form premiums can access the forum through The Software? There would be premium-only sections, which wouldn't be available to non-premiums? That could be what Sir Mighty ABACUS was saying - that would divide the community.



Anyway, these are just my opinions. You guys still have the decision. But if your feasibility study shows that PPC would go further by doing so, please go on.



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« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2002, 04:18:41 AM »
If you don't want to pay 500php a year it doesn't mean that you can't access pinoypc.



If i read it right, you won't be able to post in the trouble shooting section, won't have discounts and won't access the private "goldmember" forum.
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« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2002, 05:07:43 AM »
members.pinoypc.net

hehehe... ano yan porn site?

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« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2002, 05:29:03 AM »
While I do find a lot of merit in Might ABACUS's sentiments, I'm still not worried about the PPC community at all. Of course, not only will the community be divided, the population will diminish altogether, just because of that fee.



First of all, I will not believe any one member here can not afford to pay P500.

I find it strange to hear someone to express their concern and "love" for the community, and at the same time  think of their wallets first when we start talking about fees. As geode has implied, it's not even that big if you really look into it. Break it down and you have a monthly fee of a little over P40.



It's so easy to say, "Nice work, bryan. Keep it up." Or something like that. If this is really a community, we should start thinking how to do OUR part.



Look at it from a different perspective. Think of it as helping in the advancement of something a little bigger than yourself, at the same time helping yourself.

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« Reply #50 on: September 20, 2002, 05:58:38 AM »
Anyone saying that PhP 500 is costly should better get free internet.  My two cents of course.



IMO Edsamail isn't costly at all.



Plus 500 pesos doesn't just give you access to the software thingy.



Oh and nothing is final yet, I think.

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« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2002, 07:00:02 AM »
ang mga naisusulat ko po ang mga opinyon ko lamang at wala pong kinalaman ang sinuman, indibidwal o institusyon. kung meron man pong maapektuhan, ako at ako lamang po ang dapat maging responsable.



friends,



again, i reiterate my ideas. i am not opposed to the fees. it is the "concept" of having to pay which holds me back.  



the 500 pesos is an estimation by Bryan. what if the final computation needs it to be 1000 pesos? how do you measure the acceptability of "fair" and "not fair"?

will you still go for the premium membership?



but then, what if, again, the final computation would only be 100 pesos? of course, everybody will be happy and be as fast to avail of the premium membership.



kahit saan po natin tingnan, magkakaroon po ng dibisyon. magkakaroon ng double standard.  ang akin lang naman po, kung maiiwasan po sana at kung may ibang paraang pwedeng gawin, subukan po muna natin.



ang pakiusap ko po, sana kung mag dedesisyong maningil, subukan muna ang lahat ng paraang pwedeng gawin.



kaya nga po nai suggest ko na mag dagdag na lang ng sponsor para macover ang operating cost.



pwede po tayong mag tulong tulong sa ganong paraan. handa po akong tumulong para PPC.



salamat po.




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« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2002, 07:05:39 AM »
Nothing is yet finalize anyway, let's cross the bridge when we get there.   So in the mean time, no need to sound off the fire alarm, when there is no fire yet.
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« Reply #53 on: September 20, 2002, 07:33:25 AM »
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Yeah, sorry about that. IF we can get enough funds we can record the EBs and stream them over the net.




I didn't mean to imply that those of us overseas wouldn't get our money's worth by not being able to enjoy the EB's. I was concerned about the screening for premium membership, if it's done at the EB's. I hope that not being able to attend an EB won't restrict us from premium membership.
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« Reply #54 on: September 20, 2002, 09:23:57 AM »
i do prefer free access...that's all.
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« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2002, 09:38:20 AM »
Everyone does.



Regarding the membership of those overseas, well, I'm sure something will be arranged. I wouldn't worry if I was in your place.



No one is putting down your views, sir abacus. It's just that it's too early to express such concerns.
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« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2002, 03:24:25 PM »
i guess the site needs to be gain its name first on the public..... meron na bang 1000 ang population dito?  the plan and the fee may work pero mas maganda cguro kung gagawa muna ito ng pangalan sa publiko, or eventually maging free to navigate and ads are posted here para kumita... kelangan nio muna mangapital...



in addition to 500php thing, bababa ang youth population na napunta dto and i include myself to that.



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« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2002, 04:24:09 PM »
Bakit bababa yung population?  Kahit hindi ka naman magbayad makaka-surf ka parin naman sa PinoyPC a.

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« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2002, 04:30:03 PM »
siguro kagaya sa PEX na mayroong Premium members na guaranted ang slot availability, at regular members na limited ang slots kaya palaging "server busy"...

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« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2002, 05:32:35 PM »
what about the issue of privacy?



what if i just want to participate anonymously. bawal na ba yun dito if ever ma implement?



maybe it's not yet time. wala pang call to such a move. if the server can't handle much users, then siguro the option can be considered.



with regard sa mga delinquent posters (troll), that's what the job of the moderator - to filter out unwanted post.



it's very unusual para sa isang forum to be made premium. why pinoy sites lang na-encounter ko na forum with payments. first the pex, now baka ito susunod.



with proposed option, we'll cripple growth.  the knowledge will be limited to kayo-kayo lang.



just my two cents. no flamings intended