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SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« on: March 30, 2019, 11:24:00 AM »

I've already updated the old netbook's HDD to a SSD and it's now much more tolerable than before...but now it's a different question.  Copy/pasting the last post here as well:

bumping this up but for a different reason:[/size]i'm upgrading a system with a 500GB 5400RPM HDD to an SSD.  I guess I need the 480GB/500GB/512GB capacity kind.  what are the good ones out there?  I'm looking at Lazada and these are the ones I've found:


Kingston 512GB SSD PHP3900
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/kingston-kc600-ssd-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-with-3d-tlc-nand-i862748086-s2725796922.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.8.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1


Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD PHP4499
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/samsung-860-evo-500gb-ssd-25-inch-sata-iii-6gbs-internal-ssd-mz-76e500bw-with-5-years-warranty-i170247521-s212282478.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.52.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1


Team Elite GX2 512GB SSD PHP3498
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/team-elite-gx2-512gb-sata-iii-25inch-ssd-solid-state-drive-i475490178-s1240948574.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.22.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1


WD Blue 500GB SSD PHP3999
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/western-digital-wd-blue-500gb-25-3d-nand-sata-ssd-wds500g2b0a-i132795227-s146058113.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.24.78ff1c8cbZWhpt&search=1


Crucial BX500 480GB SSD PHP3880
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/crucial-bx500-1tb-480gb-240gb-120gb-3d-nand-ssd-sata-iii-6gbs-solid-state-drive-3-years-warranty-i371410781-s1298862698.html?


Not looking for the fastest...just the most reliable of the bunch.  Can't go smaller because of the stuff contained in the outgoing HDD and can't go larger due to budget constraints.  The outgoing HDD will go to an enclosure or to an older desktop computer for added storage.  Thanks so much!

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there's an old netbook here with the following specs:


1GHz dual-core AMD CPU with Radeon Graphics
500GB HDD 5400rpm hdd
2GB RAM
10" screen


it doesn't seem to have provisions for an additional stick of RAM so i was thinking of swapping out the HDD with one of them SSDs just to speed things up a bit.  given that the budget is a bit tight, i was considering the item linked below as an option:


https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/sandisk-ssd-plus-25-240gb-sata-iii-internal-solid-state-drive-ssd-sdssda-240g-g26-i120129658-s124829522.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.4.76081c8cDoRCxN&search=1


i was thinking that the old hdd could be reformatted and used as an external hdd.  it's not a main computer so it doesn't need that much space but 240GB should be ok for storing some files.  any thoughts?  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2019, 11:29:41 AM »
i'm good with 120 GB SSD for my main PC's OS and some games lol. i have read that larger capacity SSDs are faster, though.

i do have 2 1 TB drives for storage and backup, btw.

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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2019, 11:36:41 AM »
it's just for very basic use anyway so i don't need that much space nor speed.  plus, budget is really tight.  i'm seeing other brands too...any thoughts on those?
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2019, 11:40:27 AM »
hmm...looks like the kingston a400 is also a good contender.  just a bit more expensive but it's more recent and seems to have faster read speeds than the comparable sandisk.

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/SanDisk-SSD-Plus-240GB-vs-Kingston-A400-240GB/m25612vs3953
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2019, 11:45:23 AM »
sorry, Master Dean, pero not familiar ako sa Sandisk or Kingston SSDs. Crucial gamit ko, mga 4-5 years old na yata ito sa akin ok pa rin kahit ilang power loss, blue screen (every 2-3 days yata dati before ako nagreformat dahil nag upgrade ng PC) at hard reset na pinag daanan.

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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2019, 11:29:14 PM »
boss dean installing windows or linux? windows takes a bit more space so baka mabitin sa 120/128gb. 240/256 would be better if that's the case.

linux will make better use of 2gb ram. windows 10 64 bit 4gb ram na minimum eh
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2019, 12:18:10 AM »
thanks for the recommendations! truly appreciate it.

the netbook is currently running on a licensed/activated copy of windows 8 (came pre-installed when it was purchased) and the programs are already set up for it so i don't think i'll be re-installing windows.  just need to clone the old hdd after i remove the non-system/program files.
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2019, 11:05:13 AM »
not on a netbook but i did an ssd swap on an old amd based msi x370 slim.


before swap, i was getting high cpu / hdd usage under win10. it was maybe the ssd or moving to 4gb from 2gb ram.

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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2019, 03:21:03 PM »
thanks for the recommendations! truly appreciate it.

the netbook is currently running on a licensed/activated copy of windows 8 (came pre-installed when it was purchased) and the programs are already set up for it so i don't think i'll be re-installing windows.  just need to clone the old hdd after i remove the non-system/program files.
I have an MSI Wind U160 with 2GB RAM which was getting to be quite a pain to use every time Windows 7 decides to update itself. I switched it to Linuxmint xfce and it's now more usable for browsing and DLing.

I'm not sure how much of a difference an SSD would make for your netbook since I remember using a SONY VAIO slim netbook that came with a 128GB SSD that ran on Windows 7 Home ed and it didn't feel any faster than my MSI netbook that ran on Win 7 Ultimate.
Anyways, if you still get disappointing results after the SSD swap, may I suggest switching to a lightweight Linux distro. After all, the first netbooks were originally intended to run on a stripped down Linux OS until somebody decided that installing Windows would be an awesome idea.

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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2019, 05:34:09 PM »
it sounds like a brazos platform netbook. yeah it would run better on a lightweight linux distro if switching to an ssd doesn't give a good boost.

windows 10 is optimized for an ssd but windows 8 may still run well on an hdd...
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2019, 09:16:28 PM »
got it, will save up first and give this a shot.  thanks for all the tips!
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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2019, 10:53:56 AM »
my old msi wind u160 clone was crawling on win10, even after installing a 250GB SSD. changed to ubuntu mate minimal and it is quite snappy now. sana i can find a new battery for it. haha.

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Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2020, 11:03:22 AM »
bumping this up but for a different reason:

i'm upgrading a system with a 500GB 5400RPM HDD to an SSD.  I guess I need the 480GB/500GB/512GB capacity kind.  what are the good ones out there?  I'm looking at Lazada and these are the ones I've found:

Kingston 512GB SSD PHP3900
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/kingston-kc600-ssd-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-with-3d-tlc-nand-i862748086-s2725796922.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.8.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1

Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD PHP4499
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/samsung-860-evo-500gb-ssd-25-inch-sata-iii-6gbs-internal-ssd-mz-76e500bw-with-5-years-warranty-i170247521-s212282478.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.52.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1

Team Elite GX2 512GB SSD PHP3498
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/team-elite-gx2-512gb-sata-iii-25inch-ssd-solid-state-drive-i475490178-s1240948574.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.22.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1

WD Blue 500GB SSD PHP3999
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/western-digital-wd-blue-500gb-25-3d-nand-sata-ssd-wds500g2b0a-i132795227-s146058113.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.24.78ff1c8cbZWhpt&search=1

Crucial BX500 480GB SSD PHP3880
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/crucial-bx500-1tb-480gb-240gb-120gb-3d-nand-ssd-sata-iii-6gbs-solid-state-drive-3-years-warranty-i371410781-s1298862698.html?

Not looking for the fastest...just the most reliable of the bunch.  Can't go smaller because of the stuff contained in the outgoing HDD and can't go larger due to budget constraints.  The outgoing HDD will go to an enclosure or to an older desktop computer for added storage.  Thanks so much!
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Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2020, 05:49:26 PM »
^ The Crucial BX500 and Team Elite GX2 are DRAM-less, and that could have an effect on longevity. Don't think you'll notice a performance difference compared to those with DRAM-caches: Samsung 860 Evo; Kingston KC600; and WD Blue 3D.

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Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2020, 08:26:57 PM »
got it, thanks very much!
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Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2020, 08:39:27 PM »
here's PCPARTPICKER's list of SSDs with DRAM cache on it


https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0
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Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2020, 01:04:03 AM »
Interesting list.

Turns out the Samsung 970 Evo Plus, Kingston KC600 (actually all the Kingston drives), enterprise drives are all DRAMless.

I guess not having DRAM is better in a power-out scenario coz it makes sure that data isn't accidentally left unwritten to disk but reported as written to the OS because it was stuck in a write-back cache at time of power-out.
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Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2020, 05:20:43 AM »
found a nice list here: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html?fbclid=IwAR2XIospGM2YsKHNd6vGu0n7tV1GDPvO29ueT6sMEv5ER6Lgtmi-KqhK-HY

Btw, i currently have an old Crucial M500. I don't know how much longer it will last so i am eyeing a few modern SSDs. what i like about M500 is that it survived several power failures and system crashes without seemingly missing or corrupting data. what feature ensures this? is the Crucial MX500 of similar reliability? thanks!

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Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2020, 10:16:20 AM »
I've been reading about dram and dram-less SSDs and the claim has always been that dram-less SSDs have a shorter lifespan than dram SSDs...but as to how much/how long, nobody can seem to give a definite answer.
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