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Title: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on March 30, 2019, 11:24:00 AM

I've already updated the old netbook's HDD to a SSD and it's now much more tolerable than before...but now it's a different question.  Copy/pasting the last post here as well:

bumping this up but for a different reason:[/size]i'm upgrading a system with a 500GB 5400RPM HDD to an SSD.  I guess I need the 480GB/500GB/512GB capacity kind.  what are the good ones out there?  I'm looking at Lazada and these are the ones I've found:


Kingston 512GB SSD PHP3900
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/kingston-kc600-ssd-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-with-3d-tlc-nand-i862748086-s2725796922.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.8.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1 (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/kingston-kc600-ssd-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-with-3d-tlc-nand-i862748086-s2725796922.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.8.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1)


Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD PHP4499
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/samsung-860-evo-500gb-ssd-25-inch-sata-iii-6gbs-internal-ssd-mz-76e500bw-with-5-years-warranty-i170247521-s212282478.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.52.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1 (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/samsung-860-evo-500gb-ssd-25-inch-sata-iii-6gbs-internal-ssd-mz-76e500bw-with-5-years-warranty-i170247521-s212282478.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.52.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1)


Team Elite GX2 512GB SSD PHP3498
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/team-elite-gx2-512gb-sata-iii-25inch-ssd-solid-state-drive-i475490178-s1240948574.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.22.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1 (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/team-elite-gx2-512gb-sata-iii-25inch-ssd-solid-state-drive-i475490178-s1240948574.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.22.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1)


WD Blue 500GB SSD PHP3999
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/western-digital-wd-blue-500gb-25-3d-nand-sata-ssd-wds500g2b0a-i132795227-s146058113.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.24.78ff1c8cbZWhpt&search=1 (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/western-digital-wd-blue-500gb-25-3d-nand-sata-ssd-wds500g2b0a-i132795227-s146058113.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.24.78ff1c8cbZWhpt&search=1)


Crucial BX500 480GB SSD PHP3880
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/crucial-bx500-1tb-480gb-240gb-120gb-3d-nand-ssd-sata-iii-6gbs-solid-state-drive-3-years-warranty-i371410781-s1298862698.html? (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/crucial-bx500-1tb-480gb-240gb-120gb-3d-nand-ssd-sata-iii-6gbs-solid-state-drive-3-years-warranty-i371410781-s1298862698.html?)


Not looking for the fastest...just the most reliable of the bunch.  Can't go smaller because of the stuff contained in the outgoing HDD and can't go larger due to budget constraints.  The outgoing HDD will go to an enclosure or to an older desktop computer for added storage.  Thanks so much!

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there's an old netbook here with the following specs:


1GHz dual-core AMD CPU with Radeon Graphics
500GB HDD 5400rpm hdd
2GB RAM
10" screen


it doesn't seem to have provisions for an additional stick of RAM so i was thinking of swapping out the HDD with one of them SSDs just to speed things up a bit.  given that the budget is a bit tight, i was considering the item linked below as an option:


https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/sandisk-ssd-plus-25-240gb-sata-iii-internal-solid-state-drive-ssd-sdssda-240g-g26-i120129658-s124829522.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.4.76081c8cDoRCxN&search=1 (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/sandisk-ssd-plus-25-240gb-sata-iii-internal-solid-state-drive-ssd-sdssda-240g-g26-i120129658-s124829522.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.4.76081c8cDoRCxN&search=1)


i was thinking that the old hdd could be reformatted and used as an external hdd.  it's not a main computer so it doesn't need that much space but 240GB should be ok for storing some files.  any thoughts?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: Sephiroth on March 30, 2019, 11:29:41 AM
i'm good with 120 GB SSD for my main PC's OS and some games lol. i have read that larger capacity SSDs are faster, though.

i do have 2 1 TB drives for storage and backup, btw.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: dean on March 30, 2019, 11:36:41 AM
it's just for very basic use anyway so i don't need that much space nor speed.  plus, budget is really tight.  i'm seeing other brands too...any thoughts on those?
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: dean on March 30, 2019, 11:40:27 AM
hmm...looks like the kingston a400 is also a good contender.  just a bit more expensive but it's more recent and seems to have faster read speeds than the comparable sandisk.

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/SanDisk-SSD-Plus-240GB-vs-Kingston-A400-240GB/m25612vs3953
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: Sephiroth on March 30, 2019, 11:45:23 AM
sorry, Master Dean, pero not familiar ako sa Sandisk or Kingston SSDs. Crucial gamit ko, mga 4-5 years old na yata ito sa akin ok pa rin kahit ilang power loss, blue screen (every 2-3 days yata dati before ako nagreformat dahil nag upgrade ng PC) at hard reset na pinag daanan.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: WallyWest on March 30, 2019, 10:32:15 PM
I got this around Feb. this year.

https://shopee.ph/Western-Digital-WDS240G2G0A-240GB-2.5-Solid-State-Drive-i.28528173.1503615839
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: borgy_t on March 30, 2019, 11:29:14 PM
boss dean installing windows or linux? windows takes a bit more space so baka mabitin sa 120/128gb. 240/256 would be better if that's the case.

linux will make better use of 2gb ram. windows 10 64 bit 4gb ram na minimum eh
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: dean on March 31, 2019, 12:18:10 AM
thanks for the recommendations! truly appreciate it.

the netbook is currently running on a licensed/activated copy of windows 8 (came pre-installed when it was purchased) and the programs are already set up for it so i don't think i'll be re-installing windows.  just need to clone the old hdd after i remove the non-system/program files.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: joxsftw on March 31, 2019, 11:05:13 AM
not on a netbook but i did an ssd swap on an old amd based msi x370 slim.


before swap, i was getting high cpu / hdd usage under win10. it was maybe the ssd or moving to 4gb from 2gb ram.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: WallyWest on March 31, 2019, 03:21:03 PM
thanks for the recommendations! truly appreciate it.

the netbook is currently running on a licensed/activated copy of windows 8 (came pre-installed when it was purchased) and the programs are already set up for it so i don't think i'll be re-installing windows.  just need to clone the old hdd after i remove the non-system/program files.
I have an MSI Wind U160 with 2GB RAM which was getting to be quite a pain to use every time Windows 7 decides to update itself. I switched it to Linuxmint xfce and it's now more usable for browsing and DLing.

I'm not sure how much of a difference an SSD would make for your netbook since I remember using a SONY VAIO slim netbook that came with a 128GB SSD that ran on Windows 7 Home ed and it didn't feel any faster than my MSI netbook that ran on Win 7 Ultimate.
Anyways, if you still get disappointing results after the SSD swap, may I suggest switching to a lightweight Linux distro. After all, the first netbooks were originally intended to run on a stripped down Linux OS until somebody decided that installing Windows would be an awesome idea.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: borgy_t on March 31, 2019, 05:34:09 PM
it sounds like a brazos platform netbook. yeah it would run better on a lightweight linux distro if switching to an ssd doesn't give a good boost.

windows 10 is optimized for an ssd but windows 8 may still run well on an hdd...
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: dean on March 31, 2019, 09:16:28 PM
got it, will save up first and give this a shot.  thanks for all the tips!
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: jojitb on April 10, 2019, 10:53:56 AM
my old msi wind u160 clone was crawling on win10, even after installing a 250GB SSD. changed to ubuntu mate minimal and it is quite snappy now. sana i can find a new battery for it. haha.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for an old netbook
Post by: dean on June 14, 2020, 11:03:22 AM
bumping this up but for a different reason:

i'm upgrading a system with a 500GB 5400RPM HDD to an SSD.  I guess I need the 480GB/500GB/512GB capacity kind.  what are the good ones out there?  I'm looking at Lazada and these are the ones I've found:

Kingston 512GB SSD PHP3900
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/kingston-kc600-ssd-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-with-3d-tlc-nand-i862748086-s2725796922.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.8.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1

Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD PHP4499
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/samsung-860-evo-500gb-ssd-25-inch-sata-iii-6gbs-internal-ssd-mz-76e500bw-with-5-years-warranty-i170247521-s212282478.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.52.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1

Team Elite GX2 512GB SSD PHP3498
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/team-elite-gx2-512gb-sata-iii-25inch-ssd-solid-state-drive-i475490178-s1240948574.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.22.77bd72e880DDaE&search=1

WD Blue 500GB SSD PHP3999
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/western-digital-wd-blue-500gb-25-3d-nand-sata-ssd-wds500g2b0a-i132795227-s146058113.html?spm=a2o4l.searchlist.list.24.78ff1c8cbZWhpt&search=1

Crucial BX500 480GB SSD PHP3880
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/crucial-bx500-1tb-480gb-240gb-120gb-3d-nand-ssd-sata-iii-6gbs-solid-state-drive-3-years-warranty-i371410781-s1298862698.html?

Not looking for the fastest...just the most reliable of the bunch.  Can't go smaller because of the stuff contained in the outgoing HDD and can't go larger due to budget constraints.  The outgoing HDD will go to an enclosure or to an older desktop computer for added storage.  Thanks so much!
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: sandstig on June 14, 2020, 05:49:26 PM
^ The Crucial BX500 and Team Elite GX2 are DRAM-less, and that could have an effect on longevity. Don't think you'll notice a performance difference compared to those with DRAM-caches: Samsung 860 Evo; Kingston KC600; and WD Blue 3D.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on June 27, 2020, 08:26:57 PM
got it, thanks very much!
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: newcastle_29 on June 28, 2020, 08:39:27 PM
here's PCPARTPICKER's list of SSDs with DRAM cache on it


https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0 (https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#t=0)
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: splerdu on June 29, 2020, 01:04:03 AM
Interesting list.

Turns out the Samsung 970 Evo Plus, Kingston KC600 (actually all the Kingston drives), enterprise drives are all DRAMless.

I guess not having DRAM is better in a power-out scenario coz it makes sure that data isn't accidentally left unwritten to disk but reported as written to the OS because it was stuck in a write-back cache at time of power-out.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: Sephiroth on June 29, 2020, 05:20:43 AM
found a nice list here: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html?fbclid=IwAR2XIospGM2YsKHNd6vGu0n7tV1GDPvO29ueT6sMEv5ER6Lgtmi-KqhK-HY (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html?fbclid=IwAR2XIospGM2YsKHNd6vGu0n7tV1GDPvO29ueT6sMEv5ER6Lgtmi-KqhK-HY)

Btw, i currently have an old Crucial M500. I don't know how much longer it will last so i am eyeing a few modern SSDs. what i like about M500 is that it survived several power failures and system crashes without seemingly missing or corrupting data. what feature ensures this? is the Crucial MX500 of similar reliability? thanks!
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on June 29, 2020, 10:16:20 AM
I've been reading about dram and dram-less SSDs and the claim has always been that dram-less SSDs have a shorter lifespan than dram SSDs...but as to how much/how long, nobody can seem to give a definite answer.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: jeremypv on June 29, 2020, 11:31:40 AM
I've been using a kingston uv drives (3 of them, 2 laptops and my desktop), my desktop currently has a 20TBW, and is now 4years old

also have an 840evo (6years old with 15TBW), intel540 which is 5yo (also dramless)

oh, almost forgot, I have a samsung 32GB mSata SSD on my NUC used as HTPC - it doesn't expose S.M.A.R.T. data, so I don't know about it's health, but it's also around 5years old

I haven't had any of them fail (yet)

oh, I have a UPS on my desktop, so it's very rare for me for an unexpected shutdown (also laptops), maybe that's why.

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nobody can seem to give a definite answer.
they made a test that it's all about the TBW, for regular usage (less than 20GBW per day average), it will last quite a long time -- as for my experience, it's roughly the same as normal HDD
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on June 30, 2020, 07:47:21 PM
i'm looking at the kingston KC600 and at the description which says the following:
Total Bytes Written
256GB - 150TB
512GB - 300TB
1024GB - 600TB
2048TB - 1200TB

so is that like the measure of the lifespan?  kinda like hours for light bulbs?
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: sandstig on June 30, 2020, 08:22:13 PM
Turns out the Samsung 970 Evo Plus, Kingston KC600 (actually all the Kingston drives), enterprise drives are all DRAMless.

I think info on PCPartPicker list might be incomplete -- maybe they just grab the data from the retailers.

Toms Hardware and Storage Review both say the 970 Evo Plus has a DRAM cache:
https://www.storagereview.com/review/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb-review (https://www.storagereview.com/review/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb-review)
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd,5608.html (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd,5608.html)

KC600 has 1MB of DRAM cache for each GB of storage according to most reviews:
https://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/simon-crisp/kingston-kc600-1tb-ssd-review/ (https://www.kitguru.net/components/ssd-drives/simon-crisp/kingston-kc600-1tb-ssd-review/)
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3449662/kingston-kc600-sata-ssd-review.html (https://www.pcworld.com/article/3449662/kingston-kc600-sata-ssd-review.html)
https://www.nordichardware.se/test/kingston-kc600.html (https://www.nordichardware.se/test/kingston-kc600.html)
https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/storage/137759-kingston-kc600-sata-ssd-1tb/ (https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/storage/137759-kingston-kc600-sata-ssd-1tb/)

i'm looking at the kingston KC600 and at the description which says the following:
Total Bytes Written
256GB - 150TB
512GB - 300TB
1024GB - 600TB
2048GB - 1200TB

so is that like the measure of the lifespan?  kinda like hours for light bulbs?
Yes, that's the theoretical lifespan.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: barurutor on July 01, 2020, 07:46:31 PM
I have a 240GB Samsung 830 from March 2013 at 96.3TB written. It's been on my office laptop as the sole harddrive for a few years now.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: splerdu on July 01, 2020, 09:00:43 PM
Ye olde MLC drives are hella tough! I have a 120GB Intel SSD 530 with 273TB total NAND writes and 13,651 power-on hours. Was my main OS drive and torrent scratch drive on a rig running 24/7 for a few years.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on July 18, 2020, 11:34:25 PM
Ok, follow up question:

The computer in need of an SSD upgrade is an Asus VM60 MiniPC. It runs on the Intel VM76 chipset. The Asus website says it supports only up to 256gb SSD but the crucial and Kingston sites are listing bigger SSDs as compatible.  Can't find info on the chipset about the support for bigger SSDs. I'd appreciate having 500gb rather than 256gb because I cannot add another drive in it. Also, getting a 7200rpm drive is out of the question because the system will run too hot for sure due to the cramped space.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: WallyWest on July 19, 2020, 04:36:59 PM
Whatever capacity HDD it can accept then it should accept the SSD equivalent. Shouldn't it?
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: jeremypv on July 19, 2020, 06:05:20 PM
usually the manufacturer only puts up maximum of anything that was available the time it was released, the documentation is not updated afterwards... so most likely the time that was released, only 256GB was the maximum available. but it will certainly supported terabyte sized SSD (if you can afford it), since the protocol is the same as a spinning rust SATA.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on July 19, 2020, 06:55:45 PM
got it, thanks! i know now what to get :)
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on August 06, 2020, 10:07:13 PM
ok...i should have enough money to finally buy me an SSD in a few days but a new challenger has arrived:

WD 500GB 2.5" SATA SSD @ 3350 from EasyPC
https://easypc.com.ph/collections/solid-state-drive/products/western-digital-solid-state-drive-500gb-blue-sata-2-5

I checked and it's a dram SSD too just like the Samsung Evo.  Am I losing a lot if I go for the WD instead of the Samsung?  The WD goes for 3350 while the Samsung goes for around 4500 (Lazada/Shopee).  I'm on a tight budget and the PC is not a speed demon (heck, I've been living with its 5400RPM boot drive for years) and the saved money can go to other things (like a better keyboard or mouse to replace the existing ones?)  Or should I really just fork out a bit more and get the Samsung?
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: WallyWest on August 06, 2020, 10:48:04 PM
Just a suggestion from a guy with shallow pockets. Why not opt for a 250GB SSD and put the old HDD in a USB enclosure?

The SSD will be the OS and programs drive while data files go to the USB HDD. You could probably even partition the SSD 60/40 or 70/30 so you'll have some space for data that you could then sync (via a folder sync app) to the external or a network drive at regular intervals.

You'll save some bucks on the SSD and just fork out less than 500 pesos for an Orico USB 3.0 enclosure.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on August 06, 2020, 11:54:34 PM
Thanks for the recommendation. I already have an existing enclosure where the HDD will go to and it's going to be attached to another PC. The current rig in discussion has two external drives attached to it already for added storage.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: dean on August 07, 2020, 03:07:29 AM
Ok, read a bit more. Will get the Samsung for sure.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: arbee on August 09, 2020, 11:28:35 PM
got a samsung 860 evo last month. replaced my old crucial m500 as boot drive.

i can feel the speed difference.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: WallyWest on October 01, 2020, 02:01:45 PM
I'm currently reviving an old rig with the following specs:

AMD Athon II X4
ECS GF8200 Black Series mobo
4GB DDR2 RAM
onboard video

I've been trying to use this old 120GB Intel SSD 330 Series but there appears to be a problem:
With Windows 10, it boots up fine but within a few minutes of use there'll be pauses in whatever app I'm currently running. Then the app will eventually stop responding with the HDD activity indicator turned on. After a restart, the same thing happens. Sometimes it'll throw up a BSOD.

With Windows 7, installation will go smoothly but initial boot up will freeze at the Windows logo.

Very stable naman yung rig nung sa regular HDD ko ininstall ang Windows 7.


I've already considered switching the mode to SATA and AHCI. But neither setting helps.

What could be the problem with the SSD? I put it in a USB enclosure and so far it seems OK.Or could it be hindi talaga supported ng mobo ang SSD?
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: jeremypv on October 01, 2020, 02:15:23 PM
have you tried using another HDD? seems unlikely that the SSD will do that, perhaps the mainboard is already failing, or a PSU issue?

if the system came with another HDD and the SSD is the only new item in there, check for the S.M.A.R.T. data, maybe it's on it's last leg, try to trim the ssd (re-format the drive, open an admin powershell console, "Optimize-Volume -DriveLetter <drive letter> -ReTrim -Verbose"), then try to re-install again.

and use AHCI, as SATA/IDE mode will not know how to send trim commands to the SSD
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: splerdu on October 01, 2020, 04:12:28 PM
If it's stable on the HDD my guess is the SSD could already be failing.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: WallyWest on October 04, 2020, 10:01:13 AM
I've come to the conclusion that the motherboard does not support SSD (or this particular SSD at least).
I Googled several possible fixes including setting the mobo to IDE then switching to AHCI later and forcing Windows 7 installer to install to the SSD during selection of the drive. However, none of those worked for me.

(https://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/images/Products/small/3_GF8200A_V1.jpg)
Even Windows 7 Disk Management does not recognize the drive despite the BIOS detecting it.
I'm currently using the Intel SSD as a secondary drive on my own rig for my VMs and other Program Files. It's working great. No SMART errors.

I just find it weird that a GeForce8200 board doesn't support SSD while my AMD780G board (IIRC they came out at about the same time) does.
I'll probably just try to get as much RAM on this rig as possible to somehow compensate for the regular HDD.
Reviving this old rig has been been pretty much a PITA.

1. Too much thermal paste.
2. The stock processor fan for some reason was replaced with a low rpm CDR-King CPU fan that was loosely screwed on an inch above the stock heatsink. I'm surprised the Athlon II X4 didn't get cooked. Good thing I had a spare AM3 HSF lying around.
3. Front panel LEDs were connected to the mobo header with the wrong polarity - kaya pala walang ilaw ang case when I got it.
4. CMOS jumper was set to the CLEAR position. But now, even with a new CR2032, the BIOS still resets.
5. 1 bloated cap which I replaced.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: splerdu on October 04, 2020, 01:08:55 PM
That's weird. Even for systems that don't explicitly support SSDs they should appear as just another SATA drive.

This makes me want to test putting an SSD on my Athlon64+NForce. Hopefully it still works lol, been sitting in a closet for who knows how long now.
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: jeremypv on October 04, 2020, 01:19:50 PM
Yep, that's really especially if it is on SATA/IDE mode (instead of AHCI) since the OS will see it as a normal HDD, and haven't really seen any storage-based compatibility when it comes to the SATA spec, since SATA was developed with backwards and forwards compatibility in mind, I remembered a Jayz2cent video where he was baffled with a SATA SSD problem, turns out it's the RGB and it was heating the SSD (found it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnST5rA64Oc)), maybe your SSD is also in a place where it is heating up
Title: Re: SSD upgrade for a desktop system
Post by: WallyWest on October 05, 2020, 01:09:00 PM
That's what I was expecting too - it should be seen as a SATA drive regardless of the system it's plugged into.

One more peculiar thing I noticed with this SSD drive:

When I put it in a USB 2.0 enclosure and connect to my PS3, the PS3 reports something like "unknown USB device connected". I formatted it as FAT32 (as required by PS3) and that same enclosure is what I use on my PS3 with a 500GB HDD. So I'm stumped.