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Title: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 16, 2016, 11:42:24 AM
hi guys.  im currently having a problem with my recent windows 7 installation.  i bought a new rig and ive been having this random bsod happen.  the bsod usually happens when i am doing something.  it only happened a few times when the pc was idle.  i even had a bsod while i was posting something here in ppc.  when i posted regarding palikan it hanged before.  this is actually a new windows 7 installation so i am wondering if its hardware or software related issue.  aside from the hard drives and mouse, everything is brand new.  could it be a windows update or a driver issue?  i read somewhere online that there could be a certain hardware that i could disable to fix the issue.  i read that i needed to disable a usb hub since that is the thing causing the bsod.  here are my specs for reference.

asrock fatal1ty fm2a88x+
samsung 850 pro hdd
gskill 16gb 2133 ddr3 ram
liteon dvdrw
amd 7870k a10 processor

should i just install windows 8?  lol

is memtest86 still a good program to use now?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: WallyWest on February 16, 2016, 08:45:04 PM
What's the last thing you can make out from the error messages? Like, IO error, IRQ or something?

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Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: jeremypv on February 17, 2016, 04:18:26 AM
^ and the bsod will give an error like 0xc00000fe in which you can google and will elimate a few stuff that are OK.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 17, 2016, 10:34:50 AM
different bsod errors.  latest was irql not less or equal.  then there is a bsod that does not have a message on top but an address of 00000000x000.  not sure.  i think it was all zeros.  if it was different bsod most likely it would be bad ram right?  since if its only one thing the error message should be the same right?

i just removed one stick of ram to see if it would get fixed. so far no hangs yet. 

sometimes my pc just freezes without bsod.  the next time i get a bsod ill try to check the message.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 19, 2016, 06:20:01 PM
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/922/X1ldz2.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmX1ldz2j)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/T9OaAj.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plT9OaAjj)

here are the two bsod that i had recently.  i uninstalled killer network manager recently and thought that it would fix the bsod.  but i think i have 2 problems.  the previous bsod which does not indicate a file is gone but i recently had this new (directx related?) bsod which points to my graphics driver. 

im observing it now to see if the bsod was just a one time thing since i just uninstalled the lan software.  i tried disabling page file and uninstalling antivirus suite but the uninstallation of the lan driver was the best solution i had

any idea on what else i could check?

EDIT: the one on top is the more recent bsod btw
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 19, 2016, 08:41:15 PM
Looks like either graphics or audio driver problem.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 20, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Looks like either graphics or audio driver problem.

graphics is latest version.  recently updated audio to latest.  its ok to use drivers provided by the original manufacturer right? (realtek/amd ati instead of asrock provided which are already very old drivers)

i have a new bsod (WTF?).  now its pointing at the mouse, hidusb.sys.  could this mean that my ram is bad or windows install is bad?  since the bsod shifted to another driver. 

recently also uninstalled the asrock "utilities" like f stream tuning and app shop.  i also disabled samsung magician from booting on startup.

windows is fully updated btw
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 20, 2016, 12:29:58 PM
i also recently installed bluescreenview which show the information on which driver caused the bsod.  its a great software!  the common file that causes the bsod is ntoskrnl.sys. but at times it is accompanied by hidusb.sys, serenum.sys, dxgmms1.sys or hidclass.sys. 

do i need proper drivers for the mouse and keyboard?  i am using the elephant brand that datablitz sells.  i actually like them and they are extremely cheap.  the generic drivers are already good right?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 20, 2016, 01:24:19 PM
i just tried booting into safe mode now and also got a bsod there.  could it still be a driver problem?  the bsod is so random.  would it really be hardware?  could it be windows 7 that is doing this and not the drivers?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 20, 2016, 01:42:11 PM
memtest86

Check BIOS voltages for RAM and CPU, maybe undervolted or something.  What's your power supply?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 20, 2016, 03:19:43 PM
memtest86

Check BIOS voltages for RAM and CPU, maybe undervolted or something.  What's your power supply?

i just turned off xmp for now to check if thats the problem.  not undervolted.  its 1.6v gskill 2133.  so im now running it at 1033 to check if it fixes anything.  when i checked the timings on the xmp, it was all correct.  i cannot understand why this is still happening.  i actually selected profile 2 of xmp instead of 1.  but both settings are the same in timing and voltage.

power supply is seasonic 550w modular.  plugged devices aside from board and ram are 1 ssd, 3 sata hdd, 1 dvdrw.  its a modular power supply in case that is relevant.  seasonic ssr-550rm active pfc f3 g550

i ran memtest86 for a while but this damned pc also has a weird quirk.  whenever it is not running windows, the fan on the cpu spins extremely fast.  it bothered me so i stopped memtest.  it was running for a good 20 mins and did not find errors though.  my old pc also does that but it was the vc that did it and not the cpu.  i have an apu chip now btw.

thanks for all the help guys

how do i check for the cpu?  i do not remember tweaking anything with the cpu on uefi bios.  so its in default setting.  do i still need to change it?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: uvax on February 20, 2016, 05:17:48 PM
I've had random bsod on the current pc I'm using now. Like yours sometimes the fan would sometimes spin very fast. I was at a lost on how to resolve it as it was very reliable before. It's also an AMD apu rig. Turned out I had dust bunnies clogging the cpu fan so the cpu waas overheating. Since your rig is new maybe check the installation of the cooling fan.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 20, 2016, 06:33:41 PM
Silly q but did you plug in the 4 pin and 20 pin connectors to the motherboard?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 22, 2016, 03:40:50 AM
I've had random bsod on the current pc I'm using now. Like yours sometimes the fan would sometimes spin very fast. I was at a lost on how to resolve it as it was very reliable before. It's also an AMD apu rig. Turned out I had dust bunnies clogging the cpu fan so the cpu waas overheating. Since your rig is new maybe check the installation of the cooling fan.

everything seems okay with those.  and if it was overheating shouldnt it not boot up after freezing? 

Silly q but did you plug in the 4 pin and 20 pin connectors to the motherboard?

i think its 8 pin and 20 pin connectors right?  i plugged them all in.  would they still boot up if i didnt? 

update:  i tried to disable xmp for the ram and actually had it not bsod on me for a long time but recently had a bsod again.  latest was even a new bsod.  i just uninstalled alcohol along with the sptd.sys driver.  googled it and it was mentioned that sptd.sys from alcohol causes bsod.  will be observing(AGAIN!!!) for a few days.  its extremely irritating because the bsod was random so i need to wait for it to happen.  the weird thing is that the error messages are different so im not sure if i have more than one problem to solve for the bsod
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 22, 2016, 03:04:19 PM
at this point i'd reformat and reinstall win7, then check stability there before installing any drivers at all.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 22, 2016, 05:17:25 PM
at this point i'd reformat and reinstall win7, then check stability there before installing any drivers at all.

thats what im thinking of doing.  still observing though.  the bsod is extremely random which is very weird.  and it actually happens more often when i move my mouse pointer.  so im not exactly sure what is causing all of this

eset is asking me regarding what to do with mail.beyondboredom.net. anybody familiar with this site?  i have xnotifier installed btw.  could it be that accessing the website?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: jojitb on February 22, 2016, 05:37:46 PM
had BSOD issues with my rig after upgrading to 16GB RAM from 8GB (added 2 more modules).

The only thing that stopped the BSODs was manually setting the RAM settings and slightly over-volting (I think by 0.25v). XMP settings just made the PC crash. Try mo baka pareho tayo problema.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 22, 2016, 05:58:14 PM
had BSOD issues with my rig after upgrading to 16GB RAM from 8GB (added 2 more modules).

The only thing that stopped the BSODs was manually setting the RAM settings and slightly over-volting (I think by 0.25v). XMP settings just made the PC crash. Try mo baka pareho tayo problema.

pag nag bsod pa ako ngayon try ko nga.  very weird problem talaga.  baka may natira pang trace nung sptd.sys file kaya nag bsod last time.  pc has been on for a while without bsod.  i turned off xmp and then on just recently.  i was actually planning to manually change the timings but not over volting.  will try that solution also if ever bsod does not disappear.  kaasar ngayon tong bagong pc parang mas mahirap hanapin ang problema
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 22, 2016, 10:17:23 PM
nag bsod ako kanina.  bad trip talaga.  so i tried the over volting and the pc would not boot up.  so nag reset ako ng cmos using the button at the back and not the grounding technique.  di pala kasama yung pag alis ng password dun sa reset ng cmos button.  ayaw ko na mag over volt.  lolz!  kakahiya naman  sa shop kung magpa warranty ulit ako. 

baka di pa na linis ng mabuti sa page file or somewhere nung nag restart ako.  bluescreenview shows sptd.sys still being part of the log.  siguro observe ko nalang muna for 3 days without installing anything. 

thanks for all the inputs guys
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: splerdu on February 23, 2016, 02:08:03 AM
Daemon tools' sptd.sys?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 23, 2016, 02:24:39 AM
Daemon tools' sptd.sys?

alcohol 120.  my pc hanged recently without bsod.  im considering "upgrading" to windows 10.  should i?  any negative effects?  are there many old programs that windows 10 would not run?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: splerdu on February 23, 2016, 03:18:09 AM
Shouldn't be a problem so long as you have the proper drivers for all your stuff.

For mounting ISOs I stopped using Daemon Tools and Alcohol after XP. Suggest using Microsoft's own Virtual CD-ROM Control Panel, or slysoft's Virtual CloneDrive
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 25, 2016, 03:03:25 PM
just installed windows 10 and still got the bsod.  lolz!  i think i found the one causing it now.  it seems to be the settings in bios.  apparently,  the amd "cool and quiet" or other similar amd tweaks do that.  kaya pala mahirap hanapin kasi naka default enabled sya kaya di mo iisipin na yun ang cause.  i have disabled about 3 of those amd "tweaks".  will be observing if it fixes my bsod problem.  my next problem now is which setting to turn back on.  i do not want to see the damned bsod again. 

any suggestions on what to turn off on windows 10?  or software to download to make windows 10 less invasive?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 25, 2016, 06:21:33 PM
eh? cool n quiet is like speedstep, dynamic downclocking of your CPU during low/no-load situations. baka kulang talaga yung stock voltage na binibigay ng board sa cpu mo...
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 26, 2016, 02:06:55 AM
i actually disabled 4 settings in bios.  all of them under "cpu configuration".  still testing them though.  checked the voltages and they seem to be good.  eto pa additional specs ko para ma sure natin

seasonic 550w psu modular (g-550 gold power supply)
1 chassis fan connected on cha_fan3 connector
1 stock cpu fan
2 sticks of 8gb gskill 2133 ram
3 wd green hdd
1 samsung 850 pro ssd
1 dvdrw drive
usb peripherals plugged in - keyboard, mouse, micro usb connector, 2 usb extension cords and printer.

kulang pa ba?  meron naman ako nabasa na nagloloko talaga yung mga pc pag naka on yung certain amd settings sa bios.  di ko lang talaga mahanap kung ano yung gumagawa nun.  observation mode pa ako ngayon.  pag di nag bsod for a few days baka hanapin ko na ang cause talaga.  yun lang disable ko.  but based on my google search parang amd cool n quiet ang nagpa bsod.  nag disable lang ako ng madami kasi ayaw ko paisa isa.  lalo na kung iisa isahin ko every bsod.  enable ko nalang isa isa kung di na nag bsod.  at least kung di nag blue screen alam ko na kung ano yung cause

thanks for all the inputs.  update ko kayo kung ano nangyari after a few days
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 26, 2016, 12:05:38 PM
PSU capacity/quality is good enough, the question is whether the motherboard is properly supplying enough voltage when the processor changes clock speed.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 26, 2016, 12:36:28 PM
hopefully yes.  hehehe!  i have not been getting bsod recently.  even with cool n quiet off clock speed changes right?  i think its a driver conflict or something that creates the bsod and not voltage problems.  well, i will keep observing first.  if ever i do not get bsod for a while i will check the others. 

how do i check if the motherboard is supplying enough voltage?  any manual methods? 
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: barurutor on February 26, 2016, 02:54:23 PM
not sure if dynamic down/upclocking will work if you disabled cool & quiet.  you can try adding +0.01-0.05v (or whatever smallest value available) to cpu voltage then enable cool & quiet.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 26, 2016, 09:46:13 PM
maybe its the dynamic down/upclocking that is doing the bsod and not the voltage? 
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 26, 2016, 10:44:44 PM
i have thought of an explanation as to why the cpu configuration gives me bsod.  could it be because the latest bios for my mobo is at 2014.  while my processor which is an A10 kaveri 7870k was released just recently.  could be a configuration issue right?  since there is no bios update to make the settings compatible with the current processor
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: splerdu on February 27, 2016, 01:37:15 AM
I see the Godavari 7870k on the CPU support list, and a 2016 BIOS for two FM2A88X+ boards. Is either one applicable to you?

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20FM2A88X+%20Killer/?cat=CPU
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A88X+%20BTC/?cat=CPU

Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 28, 2016, 12:03:12 AM
i dont want to mess with my bios now.  i just had this mobo replaced.  and actually the app shop did not find any later updates for my bios.  so i guess its fully updated also.

i did not have any bsod for 2 days already.  it seems that is really the culprit.  im still waiting for the 3rd day before tweaking to confirm which of the 4 settings should be disabled. 

my mobo is the fatal1ty fm2a88x+ killer.  and i messed up a bios update recently so i dont want that headache anymore.  since i also had the bsod problem after having it replaced.  update ko ulit ito kung ano yung confirmed settings.  thanks for all the help
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on February 29, 2016, 06:02:56 PM
maybe cool n quiet isnt causing the bsod.  just enabled the 3 of the 4 settings in cpu and still got the bsod now.  the disabled one is cool n quiet.  so now i disabled svm.  i think thats the culprit.  apparently svm is defined as something that makes me run "multiple OS" on the same hardware.  whatever that means.  testing it out now.  i enabled thermal throttling and amd c6 along with cool n quiet.  hopefully i find the problem and disable it
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: splerdu on February 29, 2016, 09:22:41 PM
SVM is the AMD equivalent of Intel's VT-x. Its been around since the Athlon 64.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on March 01, 2016, 02:49:48 AM
my bios version is p1.70 btw.  i dont know why the bsod is happening but disabling all four cpu configuration fixes it.  im currently checking which one of them does this.  what is the benefit of turning on svm?  sorry im not familiar with that
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on March 01, 2016, 02:54:27 AM
edit:  its not svm.  pc just froze recently.  currently turned off cpu thermal throttle.  last to be disabled would be amd core c6.  its possible that turning off all four settings is the solution but im still trying to enable some just to find if a specific setting is doing this
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: splerdu on March 01, 2016, 03:53:31 AM
my bios version is p1.70 btw.  i dont know why the bsod is happening but disabling all four cpu configuration fixes it.  im currently checking which one of them does this.  what is the benefit of turning on svm?  sorry im not familiar with that

It's for running VMs. Like if you use VirtualBox to run [other os].
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on March 01, 2016, 07:02:08 AM
just disabled core c6.  since disabling the others also gave me bsod.  apparently it seems to be core c6 thats doing this.  cool n quiet, thermal throttle and svm are all turned on now and no bsod.  hopefully its just c6.  ill update this thread after about 3 days of no bsod to confirm.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on March 06, 2016, 05:35:38 PM
update:  it seems core c6 was the one causing the random bsod.  its been a few days and i did not experience any bsod anymore.  could it be a conflict in the voltage management?  cause from what i understand core c6, cool n quiet and amd apm does similar things.  im thinking of trying to see if the bsod will still not happen if i enabled core c6 and disabled cool n quiet or apm.  i read online that core c6 should be enabled when you want to overclock at certain speeds.  any suggestions?
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: Louie on April 07, 2016, 03:13:03 PM
Maybe it undervolts it just below the threshold causing the BSOD
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on April 08, 2016, 02:32:07 AM
well, im not getting any bsod and i do not plan to look for the culprit anymore.  it was such a frustrating experience for me.  i was thinking if it was the board, processor, psu or software that was doing this.  i never actually imagined that a bios setting would affect windows that randomly.  i thought that if there was a setting that would mess up my pc in bios, the pc should not boot.  it seems that particular bios setting affects windows randomly. not sure why though
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: Louie on April 08, 2016, 02:42:36 PM
Your machine wouldn't boot on Core C6 state initially anyway so it shouldn't prevent you from booting. Judging by how it's supposed to work if it borks then it would only do so when it undervolts the CPU. Well, it's a good thing you finally figured it out.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on April 08, 2016, 05:44:17 PM
really odd that this happens.  but one of the things i think causes it is that my motherboard stopped updating its bios by 2014.  but the processor i used i think is produced in (2015-2016?).  so maybe the motherboard did not have proper settings for this processor. 
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: splerdu on April 08, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
LOL if you recall my post in the previous page there's actually a BIOS for your mobo released this year that adds support for your CPU.

But if the problem is PSU voltage it might not help solve your BSODs.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on April 08, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
LOL if you recall my post in the previous page there's actually a BIOS for your mobo released this year that adds support for your CPU.

But if the problem is PSU voltage it might not help solve your BSODs.

i cannot seem to see that update.  i installed the asrock app shop but it doesnt display a bios update for me.  and also, i do not plan to update the bios since i have been screwed last time.  i think its better if it stays this way.  thanks for all the help though.  hehehe
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: eric.ehao@gmail.com on May 13, 2016, 10:13:59 AM
thanks to this.. Ill try some of suggestions here.. :)
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on November 30, 2016, 06:59:44 PM
currently on windows 10.  bsod is still happening.  i updated bios due to my frustration.  the update actually went well but the bsod is still there.  this is quite a nuisance
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: theDUD3 on December 01, 2016, 09:59:47 AM
^ those bsod's may be caused by faulty memory that even memtest can't detect. i had a backup pc that was giving me the fits because of random bsod's, sometimes it would go for weeks without any problems and somedays it would bsod every few minutes. after numerous testing and re-testing, installing and re-installing of os i couldn't find the problem so i left it as it was. after a couple of months i upgraded the ram in my main rig so i transferred the 2x8gb to the problematic pc and voila i haven't had a single bsod since. i didn't think of replacing the memory sticks before because it passed memtest everytime i tested it.

Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on December 02, 2016, 03:56:42 AM
^ those bsod's may be caused by faulty memory that even memtest can't detect. i had a backup pc that was giving me the fits because of random bsod's, sometimes it would go for weeks without any problems and somedays it would bsod every few minutes. after numerous testing and re-testing, installing and re-installing of os i couldn't find the problem so i left it as it was. after a couple of months i upgraded the ram in my main rig so i transferred the 2x8gb to the problematic pc and voila i haven't had a single bsod since. i didn't think of replacing the memory sticks before because it passed memtest everytime i tested it.



wow!  worth a note.  not going to do memtest anymore.  hehehe!  thanks!  but hopefully its not the ram.  i just updated bios and now i just bought a new cpu cooler.  i bought the cooler master 212x.  im planning to reinstall windows 10 with the stable drivers that i "think" should be installed.  my installation of windows is currently so messed up so i want a clean windows installation to start from scratch.  my current problem is that windows gives me a bsod every time i change certain settings in bios.  this only actually happened after i updated to the latest version P2.90 for my asrock mobo.  i was on version P1.70 and changing bios settings did not give me immediate bsod upon startup. 

from what i read, the version P1.70 did not support my processor which is 7870k godavari.  so im thinking the windows installation got screwed up because of the bios update.  so hopefully i would not get bsod after i reinstall windows and change bios settings.  the weird bsod is also probably caused by system restore since i am seeing settings snapping to default after system restore. 

thanks for all the help!
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: theDUD3 on December 02, 2016, 10:44:19 PM
^ interesting, my mobo was also from Asrock but for intel 4th gen processors
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on December 03, 2016, 01:20:12 AM
^ interesting, my mobo was also from Asrock but for intel 4th gen processors

did you try to update the bios?  probably a compatibility issue.  im still a bit busy now so i will be reinstalling windows soon.  but i currently am not having bsods.  i changed the cpu cooler too though.  so it could probably be that too.  i did so many things i dont know which one was the solution
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: theDUD3 on December 03, 2016, 08:18:26 AM
^ yup i also flashed the bios but it didn't work.
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on December 07, 2016, 08:38:49 PM
^ yup i also flashed the bios but it didn't work.

just wanted to update this thread.  its been a while and im not having any bsods.  i reinstalled windows just to start really clean from registry or drivers being corrupted.  i actually tried changing the settings in bios again to check if the bsod would happen and surprisingly it did not.  im just not sure if its the bios update or the new cpu cooler.  im also assuming that its both.  core c6 is also set to auto and im still not encountering any bsod.  the bios is updated so core c6 has an additional setting below it.  it could actually be both the cooler and bios doing the bsod in separate occasions. 

thank you all for the inputs.  hopefully i do not get that bsod anytime soon.  hehehe
Title: Re: random bsod in windows 7 64bit?
Post by: ris on December 24, 2016, 07:29:46 PM
^ yup i also flashed the bios but it didn't work.

just wanted to update this thread.  its been a while and im not having any bsods.  i reinstalled windows just to start really clean from registry or drivers being corrupted.  i actually tried changing the settings in bios again to check if the bsod would happen and surprisingly it did not.  im just not sure if its the bios update or the new cpu cooler.  im also assuming that its both.  core c6 is also set to auto and im still not encountering any bsod.  the bios is updated so core c6 has an additional setting below it.  it could actually be both the cooler and bios doing the bsod in separate occasions. 

thank you all for the inputs.  hopefully i do not get that bsod anytime soon.  hehehe

update ko lang.  wala na bsod ko!  merry talaga ang christmas ko ngayon!  im just not sure if its the cpu cooler or the bios update that fixed it.

merry christmas to all!