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Title: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on October 15, 2015, 04:26:58 PM
guys, sino boboto ninyo?   


going for mar-leni.   basta wag lang si binay,marcos,poe  or estrada. 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: borgy_t on October 15, 2015, 05:34:17 PM
my vote for VP is Leni Robredo.
for president, vacillating between Roxas, or Miriam. Miriam na sana kaso partner niya si Bongbong bigla ampf
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on October 16, 2015, 02:41:52 AM
Siguro if Bongbong had a different surname, he would have been a viable candidate. I mean if I were to look at it logically he did accomplish a lot in the senate and he has some good ideas.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on October 16, 2015, 05:34:48 AM
I feel sad for the nuisance candidates.
yung iba siguro may topak talaga. Pero yung iba parang gusto talaga makatulong.

mas nakaka-awa pa dahil sa "sensationalized' reporting ng rappler. ang dami-daming trolls at bullies sa facebook posts nila.

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on October 16, 2015, 02:34:47 PM
Rappler is a rag
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on December 01, 2015, 09:35:12 PM
Let it POE!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on December 02, 2015, 06:56:37 AM
I think Duterte should really control his mouth. His dilly-dallying also worries me, even though he has good ideas and an interesting record. Baka kasi mayroong malaking krisis, eh sobrang tagal niya mag-desisyon.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on December 02, 2015, 07:06:50 AM
^ his pro commies stance worry me most.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Heishiro on December 02, 2015, 12:51:50 PM
Miriam and Leni ! girl powah for 2016 :silly:
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: popoy on December 02, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
women I love them, but they can't lead and the half-assed (sorry excuse for men) already in power won't follow. 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on December 02, 2015, 08:37:20 PM
Hehe medyo misogynistic ang view mo sir pero practically ganun nga nangyayari sa Pinas.

Mas natatakot ako sa extra-judicial killings under Duterte. Maganda nga kung may disiplina pero wag naman yung tipong suspension of habeas corpus.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on December 03, 2015, 07:09:05 AM
kamusta ang pulso ng bayan kay binay? eto lang talaga panalangin ko na wag maging presidente.

choosing among lesser evil ang labanan ngayon.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on December 03, 2015, 04:18:44 PM
And remember. Every non vote is a vote for Binay. Wala kasing abstain sa atin.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on December 03, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
^ lol that's why we need those nuisance candidates. They are the "none of the above" option.

In the US they have Vermin Supreme who wears a robe and wizard hat and promises "Ponies for Everyone (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/vermin-supreme-2012-presidential-candidate_n_1194609.html)" among other parts of his campaign.

"I stand for three major things: mandatory tooth-brushing, number one, time travel research, number two, and zombie preparedness, number three," said Supreme at the time. "Obama doesn't address any of these issues. Is he soft on plaque? Is he soft on zombies? Does he support water-boarding for school children? Is he soft on kids? These are the things the American people want to know."
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on January 02, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
The hell with DU30, I want him!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10603484_10153846962713620_2947681308254133494_n.jpg?oh=646e01eba6f945f0f9b7038436b93f2f&oe=5703BED3&__gda__=1461266822_921cc00b992d47a1c74204f29e69961c)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on January 02, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
"OKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA!"
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on February 08, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
The way PNoy is acting it appears he's sabotaging Mar's chances at the polls. Baka totoo nga ang rumors na hindi naman talaga siya ang sinusuportahan ng administration.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: kenn on February 08, 2016, 08:29:05 PM
sa sobra ng dami ng krimen ngayon, na maski na sa loob ka ng bahay mo o andyan lang sa bakuran mo ay pwede kang patayin... wala ng kinakatakutan ang mga kriminal, pati prison system, pati sa airport... dapat kailangan ng kamay na bakal...
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on February 08, 2016, 09:56:12 PM
Rappler is a rag

Be that as it may, I trust them more than any other local news source. Rappler started because the owner got sick of how much politics was involved with local journalism and decided to go independent -- something that wouldn't have been possible before the internet. A famous rich politician offered the owner billions but wanted control and was turned down.

If they're sensationalist, it's probably because they have to drive clicks as they aren't funded the way traditional media outlets are.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: kenn on February 09, 2016, 01:17:37 PM
Rappler is a rag

agree... one of the yellow media entities... like ABiaS-CBN, laging sinisingit si Mar Roxas at Grace Poe sa mga balita or si Leni, ginawan pa ng MMK special...
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: popoy on February 09, 2016, 05:27:09 PM
rappler I like.  There is less BS compared to the alternative and the BS that is there unavoidably is easier to sift.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on February 09, 2016, 10:00:56 PM
Rappler is a rag

That being the case, ABS-CBN and its cabal of "journalists"  (Excluding ANC) would be a wet pulp.  Ted Failon is the intellectual male analog of Korina Sanchez.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on February 22, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that I've stopped watching ABS-CBN or GMA7 for news. Mom likes to listen to Ted Failon in the morning so I have to suffer his government bashing every morning. Probably because Korina married someone else? LOL

But still, what I don't like about Rappler is that it's too much like a blog. We get opinion posts that aren't well thought out or even well-researched. We also get sensationalist posts as well. I know it drives revenue but I would have expected something more from a group that offers itself up as professional.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on March 08, 2016, 03:47:31 PM
(https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xlt1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12794533_1116913348339878_3018100954896218303_n.jpg?oh=9261f794b451fd13133bcab3ef09b3eb&oe=574EFE6F&__gda__=1465133060_543b84b599cc57b944021e2fe9bfadac)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 15, 2016, 08:00:42 PM
I didn't bother to read why they voted in favor. I'm assuming it's because they fail at basic arithmetic?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on March 16, 2016, 11:52:08 AM
survey-wise... wawa naman si roxas LOL
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 18, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
Really getting tired of my Facebook wall with the amount of election propaganda in there and the number of fanboys!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Heishiro on March 19, 2016, 11:01:20 AM
survey-wise... wawa naman si roxas LOL

well, masyado kasing madal-dal ayun sya din sumasabit sa mga chismiz nya :lol:
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: theDUD3 on March 19, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
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If Grace Poe wins she will beat Hillary Clinton and would be the first American Lady President.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on March 19, 2016, 01:11:40 PM
survey-wise... wawa naman si roxas LOL

well, masyado kasing madal-dal ayun sya din sumasabit sa mga chismiz nya :lol:

nagiging weird na nga sya ngayon.  parang desperado na.  di naman sya ganyan dati.  i never imagined he would be like this.  dati mukha naman syang maayos kausap.  pero nung napanood ko yung video tungkol sa davao na sasamahan daw nya tayo dun kung saan nagbebenta ng drugs nagulat ako na sinabi nya talaga yun.  tapos meron pang ibang mga na video na ginawa nya
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Heishiro on March 19, 2016, 03:21:26 PM
survey-wise... wawa naman si roxas LOL

well, masyado kasing madal-dal ayun sya din sumasabit sa mga chismiz nya :lol:

nagiging weird na nga sya ngayon.  parang desperado na.  di naman sya ganyan dati.  i never imagined he would be like this.  dati mukha naman syang maayos kausap.  pero nung napanood ko yung video tungkol sa davao na sasamahan daw nya tayo dun kung saan nagbebenta ng drugs nagulat ako na sinabi nya talaga yun.  tapos meron pang ibang mga na video na ginawa nya

yup, sablay talaga sya dun sa chismis nyang sasamahan nya pa saan makakabili ng drugs sa Davao.
pinagmuka nya lang t*nga sarili nya. sobrang desperado talagang manalo, alam nyang above na sa kanya
si Duterte sa mga survey ayun di mapakali at di mapigilan ang bibig. isa pang nainis ako dyan yung video
sa Tacloban "You have to understand, you're a Romualdez and the President is an Aquino."
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on March 20, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
according to friends who worked closely with government agencies very recently, roxas really wants to be president :P :P :P except that he's acting like a rich spoiled brat when you're working with him :)  and he's really incompetent  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on March 21, 2016, 04:56:01 AM
duterte - wants to release revilla, arroyo and estrada from prison. want marcos to be buried in libingan ng mga bayani. AFP modernization is useless. offers railroad diplomacy for china. pro-commies and mnlf. only kills small  time criminals.

poe - puppet of danding. american citizens.

roxas - maybe incompetent but create more jobs and his contribution to BPO  now reaching 1 million jobs and surpassing the OFWs remittance.

 i will go for MAR-LENI, the national economy,  AFP modernization and US-RP Military Alliance is far more important to me than other issues like traffic, LTO Plate, drugs, MRT and other issues that a capable MAYOR could handle.  Aquino admin is one one the best performing administration i have know and experience because i was a beneficiary of that economic miracle that is happening to the Philippines  right now.  A duterte leadership will turn our nation  into a Venezuela where the leftist ruin the economic boom. 

 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Taggy on March 21, 2016, 05:23:14 AM
im with lahar. :)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 21, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
roxas - maybe incompetent but create more jobs and his contribution to BPO  now reaching 1 million jobs and surpassing the OFWs remittance. 

Actually, kasalanan daw ni Gloria yung sa BPO industry. Inaako lang ni Roxas
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on March 21, 2016, 02:26:56 PM
im with lahar. :)

Uhh actually I haven't picked out one yet. But I have some thoughts on the candidates:

Binay- definitely not.

Roxas- not sure if competent or incompetent. From what I can tell, he's a technocrat, good for running a business, but government is not a business. He lack empathy and seems trying too hard to be what he's not. I think he should just play on what he does best.

Duterte- I admit I wanted him at first (federalism is a good idea), but he took so looooong to decide, even then after turning it down twice. Now I detest him (not as much as Binay). And he is so shallow and shortsighted. Ok so after solving crime, then what? Nothing. And then he keeps saying moderinizing the AFP is a waste, preferring to simply talk one on one with China (on his jetski no less!). Also his antics while entertaining is only good for local elections. Is he going to curse the Chinese till they leave?

Poe- IMO too early and her "American" family (will renounce if/when she wins) is cause for concern. Then there the people behind her (Danding).

Santiago- her choice of VP is like a slap in the face and her health is questionable. Not even sure if she will make it to the ballotbox.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on March 21, 2016, 02:46:53 PM
Binay crashed, burned and practically rolled himself into a buckyball last night.   He has totally lost the elections.  But who the hell was coaching him?  Notes in a nationally televised debate?  Insisting on having these documents as props he intended to read out?  Kicking at the relatively dead horse of Poe's citizenship while insisting on reading from notes.  Stroking Duterte's shaft, doing very little else damage to Mar's lack of evident leadership and Poe's inexperience.

Duterte, other than his remarkably salient stance on climate adaptation, did not really really add to anything but managed to troll Mar Roxas with relative success.  He owned the outtakes but substantially very thin every where else in terms of policy and addressing criticisms.  He also asked the most critical question for any candidate in terms of national security and foreign relations, though displayed very little expertise about it.

Poe, was clear in her delivery of her canned lines, but failed to answer the two most critical questions, namely the Coco Levy Fund, and the fact that she needed to wake up first during an international crisis.  The plan to cash in commitment from allies and mutual defense treaties for a swift military response should have been a ready contingency.  She wanted to hold meetings first and forgot to put a pot of coffee out?

Mar got the brunt of the criticisms, stayed on message, answered points adequately, but was terribly redundant and lacked the humorous wit to counter the snide remarks from the irreverent Duterte.  He shines as a competent administrator but not quite leadership material you'd die for.  He has the most to lose in this election.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 21, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
So knowing all that, who do you vote for?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on March 21, 2016, 05:10:12 PM
Am inclined towards Mar, but I have a profound dislike for Korina Sanchez and his non-support of divorce.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 21, 2016, 07:20:23 PM
What made you go for him? I doubt that he has what it takes to continue Daang Matuwid. His incompetence speaks volumes.

We're really hard pressed for viable candidates such that I am trying to decide whose low points I can live with.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on March 22, 2016, 04:43:10 AM
Am inclined towards Mar, but I have a profound dislike for Korina Sanchez and his non-support of divorce.
All four of them don't support divorce either.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: jorussic on March 22, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
So, to conclude, no one likes Binay, and it seems logical to say that very few will vote for him.

What scares me the most is I feel that there's a high chance that he will still win.

If that happens, I'm really gonna consider migrating.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on March 22, 2016, 03:34:52 PM
So, to conclude, no one likes Binay, and it seems logical to say that very few will vote for him.

What scares me the most is I feel that there's a high chance that he will still win.

If that happens, I'm really gonna consider migrating.

that's based on this thread but that's not how the rest of the nation thinks.  given what has happened recently, i'm sure he'll be using the kawawa card even more especially after he's been "bullied" in the recent debate.   
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: [X] on March 22, 2016, 07:40:34 PM
who is your president?

http://pipoll-alpha.appspot.com/ (http://pipoll-alpha.appspot.com/)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on March 22, 2016, 11:05:10 PM
marami may gusto kay binay.  lalo na siguro mga masa ng makati.  baka karamihan walang internet access kaya di masyado nakikita o baka naman tahimik lang sila.  parang dati si erap muntik na ulit manalo na presidente eh wala naman tayo masyado nababasa na boboto sa kanya.  sobrang vocal lang talaga din ng supporters ni duterte kaya sya ang nangunguna.  hanggang di nagbotohan di natin malalaman sino talaga ang pinaka madaming boboto
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on March 23, 2016, 07:29:37 AM
What scares me more right now is the VP race. No matter who wins, GP, Du30, Binay, Roxas or even Santiago and the VP turns out to be BBM,,,
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 23, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
It is alarming to me as well. I am actually thinking of voting for Robredo just so that BBM loses. I might also vote for Grace Poe if it means that Binay doesn't become President.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on March 23, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
At least I know who I want for VP (Robredo).
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on March 23, 2016, 04:18:43 PM
^ conspiracy theory ng friend ko is that Marcos money was used to ensure the decision on GP. If GP + BBM win, then after a year reverse the decision on GP's eligibility and boom, BBM is president!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on March 23, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
well, even Du30 loves marcos to the point that he's said time and again that marcos can take over after him... wawa naman si cayetano LOL
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on March 23, 2016, 05:53:53 PM
^ conspiracy theory ng friend ko is that Marcos money was used to ensure the decision on GP. If GP + BBM win, then after a year reverse the decision on GP's eligibility and boom, BBM is president!
Same thing was said about Miriam-BBM tandem. Miriam dies, BBM takes over.

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on March 23, 2016, 07:07:40 PM
no choice but to vote for Roxas-Robredo.   
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on March 24, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
Roxas-Robredo here too.

No offense to Binay and Duterte supporters but if the past debates are any indication of their knowledge in governance and their speaking prowess (lack thereof), they'd be an embarrassment to the Philippines if they ever attend international events for heads of state.

Tapatalked
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on March 25, 2016, 04:57:17 AM
Remember that Roxas has already made an embarassment of the Philippine government when Yolanda hit and he was the one taking interviews.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on March 25, 2016, 07:41:20 AM
Many friends, including our own boss menyek Bryan were involved in relief efforts for Yolanda, while the admin was busy blocking other people from helping so they could make themselves look good.

Also, remember how badly handled that bus full of hostages was? Roxas has built a legacy of failure.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on March 25, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
Many friends, including our own boss menyek Bryan were involved in relief efforts for Yolanda, while the admin was busy blocking other people from helping so they could make themselves look good.

Also, remember how badly handled that bus full of hostages was? Roxas has built a legacy of failure.
Robredo was in charge of DILG at that time.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on March 25, 2016, 09:51:12 PM
but it will BIG embarrassment if we elect duterte or poe.  right now, the philippine economy is on the momentum, the third largest. i don't like politicians running the economy i want an economists or businessman  like roxas take care of the economy. roxas made some bad decisions like  all good leaders do but he done more good things to our economy and help create laws that is beneficial to us. compare that to other candidates.   
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on March 26, 2016, 03:04:33 AM
^ IMO the groundwork behind economic recovery had been laid out by Arroyo. Majority of the people I know who own businesses are of the "anyone except Roxas" faction, currently leaning toward Du30.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: MtnDew on March 26, 2016, 01:23:22 PM
Baka may pasabuging bomba para takutin ang mga tao, at magpapalabas si Duterte sa TV na matapang daw siya at susupilin niya daw ang mga nagpasabog. Pero baka naman ibang klaseng bomba ang sumabog. Utot lang pala. :lol:

Sino sa mga kandidato ang gusto ng America? Mamalimos na sila at dilaan ang paa ng America para pondohan at tulungan sila sa eleksyon. :lol:
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 03, 2016, 09:21:54 PM
the kidapawan incident is another reason why i won't vote for dudirty.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on April 04, 2016, 12:52:37 AM
I think the majority of undecided are actually Mar-Robredo, simply because it is impossible to talk sensible politics with supporters of Duterte and Poe.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on April 05, 2016, 12:01:40 AM
I agree. Sensible.

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on April 10, 2016, 07:13:38 PM
Watching the VP debates. Audience at UST is noisy, and appears to be pro BBM, wtf?!! Millenials again?!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on April 10, 2016, 07:46:58 PM
bracketing things out a little bit... marcos has some good points and i can somewhat understand his "charm"
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: waway on April 11, 2016, 09:00:58 AM
http://gizmodo.com/the-personal-information-of-55-million-filipino-voters-1770064712
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 16, 2016, 04:19:28 PM
mar roxas - leni robredo 2016
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Hajile on April 17, 2016, 02:08:46 AM
My thoughts on the candidates, how close am i?

Binay - The con man (or a dirty lawyer) who knows how to work the system. You want him on your side at the negotiating table, but you still have to make sure to check your pockets afterwards.

Roxas - Also knows how the system works, but his main purpose is continuance and stability. Many projects and deals can take ten or fifteen years to complete, you don't want the boat rocked if you're a long term investor especially if you've already invested ten years through the previous administrations.

Duterte - Plans to go against the system to the point of destroying the government and rebuilding it from the ground up. The opposite of Roxas. My main beef is with his supporters who keep touting his accomplishments while dismissing the acts they were founded on, you can't build a pyramid if you take out half the stones at its base, nor get to XYZ without the ABCs.

Santiago - The opposite of Binay. Knows the loopholes and backdoors of the system, greatest chance of closing them by using the system to fix itself. Has a reputation of being neutral to the point of defending unpopular decisions. Health is an issue.

Poe - I still have no idea.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on April 17, 2016, 08:44:21 AM
My worry with Santiago is you can't tell which side she's on. I still remember her "I lied, hahaha" episode.

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on April 17, 2016, 08:47:55 AM
If Duterte keeps gaining momentum, I'd be OK if the administration rigs the election just to save the country from the folly of it's own voting population. I'm starting to think democracy is not for this country.

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on April 17, 2016, 08:50:28 AM
If Duterte keeps gaining momentum, I'd be OK if the administration rigs the election just to save the country from the folly of it's own voting population. I'm starting to think democracy is not for this country.

Tapatalked
If you think that way then it doesn't matter if Du30 loses.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on April 17, 2016, 06:05:23 PM
With all his defeatist and lukewarm attitude towards the WPS:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xal1/v/t1.0-9/13015163_955655087883441_391448479257665651_n.jpg?oh=c485414cd0d3ebcc9d0d002d1e9d7d11&oe=57B56737&__gda__=1472240461_425afb682da5778aefeaa5119f01b5f3)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 25, 2016, 10:36:09 AM
ka ppc mag RORO na tayo.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 25, 2016, 04:39:39 PM
I'll be voting Robredo for the VP position.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 25, 2016, 06:38:49 PM
mag Mar ka na rin Sir Louie. Si Sir lahar? TnT? Wally? Imp2? Heish? Slide? goma? Jorussic? Borgy ? dean? Hung? etc? 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on April 25, 2016, 07:32:58 PM
Robredo ako. Mukhang certain na ang panalo ni Gunggong. At least Robredo will be the voice of reason. And kung magkatotoo ang gusto niya na mag-jetski to seek a heroes death...
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on April 25, 2016, 09:12:23 PM
mag Mar ka na rin Sir Louie. Si Sir lahar? TnT? Wally? Imp2? Heish? Slide? goma? Jorussic? Borgy ? dean? Hung? etc?
Pareho lang tayo sir.

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: sandstig on April 25, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
I wonder kung anong mangyayari on the day na ipapasok na si Marcos sa Libingan ng mga Bayani. May mag-proprotesta pa kaya? Mag-rerelent ba si Du30? Or "patatahimikin" lang yung mga nagproprotesta?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on April 25, 2016, 09:55:41 PM
Because this is a better Philippines than the fiction Duterte and the people around him have fabricated.

"Ito ang maunlad at disenteng Pilipinas, may dangal, may takot sa Diyos, maipagmamalaki mo. Ito ang Pilipinas na ipinaglalaban natin. Dakila ang ating lahi. Dakila ang ating bansa."

https://youtu.be/ldS3wtawR5E
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on April 26, 2016, 04:26:54 AM
Looks like the admin's given up on Roxas and they're now focusing their resources on Robredo.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on April 26, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Sino ba talaga si Emilio Aguinaldo? Kung anu-ano kasi sinasabi ng mga supporters ni Digong:

1. Emilio daw is Spanish for "volunteer", but Google says it means "flattering" and Aguinaldo means gift. So "volunteers gifts" daw. Those are really some rabid fanbois, willing to distort facts to protect their candidate.

2. Some say his first answer "nasa bukid" is an allusion to "namumundok" since "bukid" in Cebuano also means mountains. So the money comes from NPAs?

3. Then theres a photo circulating that a Gulstream jet registered at the PRC was spotted in Davao International Airport. Could "Aguinaldo" be from Mainland China?

4. In the movie Luna, Aguinaldo was called a traitor. Could Digong's "Aguinaldo" also be a traitor or could he himself be a traitor and sellout?

5. One of the living descendants of Emilio Aguinaldo is  DOTC Sec. Abaya. So is he a traitor against Roxas and PNoy?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Al on April 26, 2016, 11:15:24 AM
Honestly, I think it was just another failed attempt at being witty, as far as Duterte's Aguinaldo blurb is concerned. For his sake, he should just stop trying to help minimize the self-inflicted wounds of his campaign.

But right now, I am actually more annoyed at these supporters who are trying too hard to spin every off-the-mark statement their idol makes. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 26, 2016, 11:56:33 AM
Mar Roxas has no chance of winning. I will not vote for him.

I am more likely to vote for Duterte as long as it means that Binay does not win.

Robredo stands the best chance to beat Marcos. This is why I am voting for her.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: jorussic on April 26, 2016, 02:36:51 PM
mag Mar ka na rin Sir Louie. Si Sir lahar? TnT? Wally? Imp2? Heish? Slide? goma? Jorussic? Borgy ? dean? Hung? etc? 
Was not able to register for this election. So no voting for me.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Al on April 26, 2016, 04:03:25 PM
Mar Roxas has no chance of winning. I will not vote for him.

I am more likely to vote for Duterte as long as it means that Binay does not win.

Robredo stands the best chance to beat Marcos. This is why I am voting for her.
I am still deeply conflicted about voting for the president. But I'm most likely going for Robredo, as well.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 26, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
 there are swing votes thats happening right now in favor of mar.  pls join the silent majority, it was created a week ago and its now around 170k validated account.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: alikishi on April 26, 2016, 05:22:40 PM
I'm RoRo :)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 26, 2016, 07:26:16 PM
there are swing votes thats happening right now in favor of mar.  pls join the silent majority, it was created a week ago and its now around 170k validated account.

We'll see. I haven't made my mind yet. I just know it's not going to be Binay or blank.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 27, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
Duderte is not clean -> http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/04/27/1577314/trillanes-claims-duterte-has-p211m-undeclared-bank-account
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 27, 2016, 02:22:55 PM
If true then he should rot in jail. However, the timing is suspect.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Al on April 27, 2016, 03:57:37 PM
If true then he should rot in jail. However, the timing is suspect.
So is the claimant. But yes, if proven true, Duterte should be held accountable.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 27, 2016, 08:46:20 PM
So much noise in FB for the elections lately. I hope that whoever you guys want to vote for President and Vice President that you join me in voting for Dick Gordon.



IPASOK SI DICK!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: i2mp on April 27, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
I don't know which one is crazier, the U.S. election with Trump and his antics OR the Philippine elections with Duterte et al.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on April 28, 2016, 03:17:27 AM
I don't know which one is crazier, the U.S. election with Trump and his antics OR the Philippine elections with Duterte et al.

kakatawa nga na sabay may craziness ang philippines at usa elections
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Al on April 28, 2016, 06:57:13 AM
On my end, it stopped being funny a while ago. Polluted newsfeeds, and candidates I don't like dominating surveys (mostly in the Senate) aside,  I have actual friends and acquaintances fighting over their candidates in Facebook and presumably other social media platforms. Siguro ganun din ang kaso sa inyo. I can only hope the damage done can be repaired after all this.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 28, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
why on earth he maintains an account  in  bpi pasig


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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 28, 2016, 08:54:37 PM
No idea. He should just show a bank statement to everyone to show what actually goes into the account and what it's used for and get it over with. That will surely get him votes.

On another note, how come Trillanes is able to get bank details from someone? Isn't that invasion of privacy?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Al on April 28, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
... and BPI be like... oh shit... hahaha.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on April 28, 2016, 11:59:50 PM
No idea. He should just show a bank statement to everyone to show what actually goes into the account and what it's used for and get it over with. That will surely get him votes.

On another note, how come Trillanes is able to get bank details from someone? Isn't that invasion of privacy?
 

i think the source came  from AMLC .  AMLC monitors bank account with  withdrawals/deposit of more than 500,000 pesos.   Now after denying the account he admit it.   A game changer , lots of du30 supporters are now changing their minds.   
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on April 29, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
don't worry guys, i'm sure he meant that bank account as a joke and he only said it in anger.  he'll explain the context in a statement ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on April 29, 2016, 06:32:12 PM
may dollar account pa daw ngayon.  nag deposit daw sila mar roxas
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on April 29, 2016, 07:33:40 PM
Tignan natin kung ano mangyayari sa lunes kung bubuksan ba talaga o hindi.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on April 30, 2016, 05:53:41 AM
No idea. He should just show a bank statement to everyone to show what actually goes into the account and what it's used for and get it over with. That will surely get him votes.

On another note, how come Trillanes is able to get bank details from someone? Isn't that invasion of privacy?
 

i think the source came  from AMLC .  AMLC monitors bank account with  withdrawals/deposit of more than 500,000 pesos.   Now after denying the account he admit it.   A game changer , lots of du30 supporters are now changing their minds.   

Honestly I have my doubts on the the allegations. I would rather have the voters see Duterte for what he is: A joke. 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on April 30, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
I keep waiting for someone to tell them, "you've been punk'd".

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on April 30, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
I keep waiting for someone to tell them, "you've been punk'd".

Tapatalked



maybe on monday.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Taggy on May 01, 2016, 11:27:26 AM
ang saya ng election ngayon.  hehehe
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on May 01, 2016, 04:04:13 PM
ayan wala pang monday umurong na si meyor
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 02, 2016, 01:08:52 PM
Kanselado ang Sampalan at sabunutan sa BPI Julio Vargas.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on May 02, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
Trillanes did sign the waiver but ... oh well, same old story like binay.  Dumating din naman si mayor
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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 02, 2016, 03:35:58 PM
So it's much ado about nothing. Duterte's lawyer says that BPI confirms that there was at no time was there a deposit of 211 million pesos singly or collectively into the bank account. But why can't they just print out a bank statement with all of the transactions? I'm sure that can be done on the spot since we have computerized records.

And what the hell is it with Trillanes and his informant? So his informant knows a guy who works for an agency that has access to documents held by government agencies that look into graft? So this is private information taken without warrant and inadmissible in any court of law?

Circus. Politicians politicking.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: borgy_t on May 02, 2016, 04:01:15 PM
^something mark twain said about chickens and asteroids... maybe only a nuclear strike or foreign invasion will unite us Filipinos and spur us into change.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 02, 2016, 06:23:02 PM
Interesting take on current proceedings.
I am posting the whole blog entry here to save you guys the trouble, but if you like it you might want to give him a click:

https://heneralunacy.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/may-9-the-revenge-of-the-people/ (https://heneralunacy.wordpress.com/2016/05/01/may-9-the-revenge-of-the-people/)
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May 9: The Revenge Of The People

Hang on, it’s almost over.

In a week we shall be electing our leaders for the next 6 years. In that period your high-schooler will be looking for a job, our population will have surpassed 120 million, temperatures will be approaching 40 C, and Metro Manila will be one large parking lot. It will not be pretty.

The election has been unprecedented. Leading the Presidency is a man who was not on the original ballot, a reluctant, replacement, rogue candidate with no national recall, apparent funding or organization, a foul-mouthed womanizer, and an avowed killer of bad people.

Leading the Vice-Presidency is the son of Ferdinand Marcos.

Why is this happening after a PNOY Administration acknowledged for its integrity, economic performance, and transparency?

Clearly, despite the accolades, all is not well in the Middle Kingdom. Our 6 % annual GDP growth accrued only to the rich. Specifically, by one account our economic growth went to 40 families.

The number of Filipinos below the poverty line has increased. Unemployment has “officially” dropped but underemployment –the number of those without a fulltime job- is over 20 percent. Our growth has been restricted to the urban centers, to real estate and construction, to the stock market, the banks, the businesses of the rich. Agriculture which accounts for over two thirds of our population improved by only 1% in 6 years. Rising property prices have put decent home ownership beyond the reach of the middle class, not to speak of the poor.

The Government attended to growth and our credit ratings without addressing the costs or distribution of growth. It trumpeted the increase in car ownership while forgetting the resulting traffic, infrastructure and urban congestion. Big Business did well while the small entrepreneur is plagued with endless lines, bureaucracy and corruption.

The massacre of 58 innocents in the fields of Mindanao on Nov. 23, 2009 is still unjudged, that is over 6 years and counting. Six thousand farmers victimized by El Nino in Kidapawan, North Cotabato were shot at rather than cared for. Dirty coal plants proliferate. Islamic terrorism is nearer than we think.

The popularity of Duterte reveals how the Administration just did not get it. Dazzled by its own numbers, it endorsed a message of continuity for Daan Matuwid unaware that beneath the shine lay the pain of the ordinary man, six hour commutes, unreliable public transport, depleted fishing, drought stricken farm lands. Is this, people ask, what an investment grade gets us?

The popularity of Bongbong Marcos is less easily explained: It is a combination of demographics (the solid north and Leyte), protest vote, name recall and money. Give him credit for figuring it out.

There is no commonality to the rise of Duterte and Marcos. They come from different backgrounds, political leanings, values and behavior. What they do share is voter disenchantment and, increasingly, anger. One sees it in the rabidness of Duterte’s supporters in social media. Following the last Presidential debate, Karen Davila and her family were threatened by Duterte fans who accused her of bias. As for Bongbong is this the people’s personal thumb-nose at PNoy and the assassination of his dad?

It is said there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come. Unlike his rivals, the Duterte phenomenon is bigger than a single persona, it is a movement defined as an ideology (Federalism, anti-establishment, right-wing solutions to crime, left-wing solutions to the economy) with critical mass and energy. This explains the passion of his supporters and why outrageous comments on the Pope and rape victims have failed to stem his tide. It explains the breadth of his support across economic classes.

Sen. Trillanes’ revelations on Duterte’s bank accounts –the mayor was initially dismissive of them- raises questions about Digong’s integrity. Trillanes is a supporter of Poe but before we shoot the messenger, let us see the message. It may answer the question of how Duterte has been financing his campaign without accepting donations from the big boys. There is talk of foreign funding interested in the natural resources of Mindanao.

The masses are angry at a system that has left them behind. With little to lose they are ready for a scorched-earth, disruptive cleansing of the political landscape. Many Filipinos will vote for Grace Poe to channel their frustrations but with her gender, connections to the establishment and good manners she is seen by more not to have the ruthlessness to get the job done.

Barring some earth-shaking revelations on his bank accounts and this may not even be enough –voters assume all politicians are more or less corrupt- on May 9 Digong will be our President. He is Filipinos’ revenge on the political, social and financial elite. He is a self-confessed socialist, the anti-thesis of capitalism, so Big Business beware. He is tough on criminals, so human rights activists beware. He is short on political correctness, so politicians and the judiciary beware (He is long on females, so parents with daughters beware).

The good news is Filipinos are channeling their disenchantment through the democratic process. The bad news is their pain is real. If the next President is unable to assuage their hurt with meaningful reforms, the people may vent their frustration in more physical terms. Imagine not 6,000 farmers in N. Cotabato but 6,000 urban poor in the streets of Manila; and you will see what I mean.

I sort of agree. People are plain disenchanted with the current administrative party. Among my friends the general sentiment is basically "anyone except Mar", with a couple of guys actively supporting Du30.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on May 02, 2016, 07:36:51 PM
^read that the other day as well and it does have some pretty good points.

the argument for mar according to some experts is that you need continuity in order for all the development efforts to bear fruit...the figure given is about 10 years.  in that sense, mar is a kind of a "safe" choice for the upcoming election.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 03, 2016, 01:25:24 AM
^ Yup. Written by Leo Alejandrino, a friend of JV's dad, if you remember him from the early CM days. Super smart investment banker / private equity guy.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: borgy_t on May 03, 2016, 07:29:08 AM
those with the biggest machinery have the biggest chance to win. for better or for worse.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 03, 2016, 09:57:04 AM
Somehow anti-establishment politics is a mystery to anyone?

It isn't as if the population hasn't been conditioned in the past years to be anti everything.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 03, 2016, 11:04:11 AM
Well it doesn't help the current administration that their approach is seen as insensitive. What with laglag bala, traffic, MRT, and plate number woes abound.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on May 04, 2016, 06:39:11 AM
sabi nga ni Chito Miranda dun sa facebook post nya, parang gago talaga mga die hard duterte fans.

I was almost pro-duterte when he announced his presidential bid. sabi ko, eto na ang susunod na Dick Gordon/Bayani Fernando. Naniniwala ako na katulad ni Dick o BF ang kailangan ng bansa.

pero nung campaign period na, pangit mga lumalabas sa bibig ni duterte. sya mismo nagbaon sa sarili nyang kampanya.

parang si chito, nagdadalawang isip pa rin ako kung sino ang karapat-dapat sa bansa.

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 04, 2016, 07:18:46 AM
Business and finance sectors' vote seem to be for him as well:
http://business.inquirer.net/210012/biz-buzz-a-shocker-for-malacanang (http://business.inquirer.net/210012/biz-buzz-a-shocker-for-malacanang)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 04, 2016, 08:02:36 AM
Peace and order hmm. Sabagay may peace and order din ang mga sementeryo. Its peaceful at orderly ang pagkakalatag ng mga marker.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 04, 2016, 11:37:04 AM
Unless it's a mass grave.

Whoever wins in this year's election, I hope that this time it's really who the people voted so that the Filipino people gets the leaders that they deserve.

If Duterte wins and flops, I hope it makes people wary of strongmen and deter them from voting a BBM into the Presidency.

If Poe wins, I hope she gets disqualified after so that we can show that rule of law still prevails.

If Miriam wins, I hope she lives through the 6 years.

If Mar wins and flops, I hope that all of the administration's dirty clothing are hung out for all to see.

If Binay wins, God help us.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on May 04, 2016, 12:09:23 PM
Somehow anti-establishment politics is a mystery to anyone?

It isn't as if the population hasn't been conditioned in the past years to be anti everything.

blame the historians and sociologists of a certain university for teaching it like that ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: icedrop on May 04, 2016, 12:17:57 PM
i blame it on teaching rights without teaching responsibilities.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on May 04, 2016, 01:01:29 PM
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If Poe wins, I hope she gets disqualified after so that we can show that rule of law still prevails.

mahirap ito lalo na kung si BBM ang bise.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 04, 2016, 01:11:58 PM
^ Worst case scenario for PNoy. In two years the president will be impeached or disqualified and then boom! We have another Marcos president.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 04, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
Like I said nga earlier, no matter who wins, we are screwed if BBM is the VP.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: jorussic on May 05, 2016, 09:57:04 AM
Unless it's a mass grave.

Whoever wins in this year's election, I hope that this time it's really who the people voted so that the Filipino people gets the leaders that they deserve.

If Duterte wins and flops, I hope it makes people wary of strongmen and deter them from voting a BBM into the Presidency.

If Poe wins, I hope she gets disqualified after so that we can show that rule of law still prevails.

If Miriam wins, I hope she lives through the 6 years.

If Mar wins and flops, I hope that all of the administration's dirty clothing are hung out for all to see.

If Binay wins, God help us.
And this is why I firmly believe that the more important people to look at are the Vice Presidentiables.  The roster of presidentiables have a high risk of being removed from their position in a very short amount of time.

Or in the case of MDS, y'know...
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Heishiro on May 05, 2016, 10:41:07 AM
Like I said nga earlier, no matter who wins, we are screwed if BBM is the VP.
why? martial law? sa dami ng human rights ngayun malabo na yan..
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 05, 2016, 10:51:39 AM
In noticed a lot of misinformation being spread by Duterte supporters online. False endorsements, 20 point survey leads, etc. and its getting annoying.

That's just shady. I wouldn't want that man to be our president.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 05, 2016, 10:52:51 AM
Well for one thing, all that money they stole? Say goodbye. Human Rights violations? Never happened. Then they'll repeat the systemic stealing they did and promote cronyism again. It'll be good times for Ilocos and Leyte, though, like before.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 05, 2016, 10:53:39 AM
In noticed a lot of misinformation being spread by Duterte supporters online. False endorsements, 20 point survey leads, etc. and its getting annoying.

That's just shady. I wouldn't want that man to be our president.

A lot of misinformation is spread online period. We just have more of it now. It's because people don't bother to verify before sharing is why it gets out of hand.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 05, 2016, 03:28:12 PM
Like I said nga earlier, no matter who wins, we are screwed if BBM is the VP.
why? martial law? sa dami ng human rights ngayun malabo na yan..
Historical revisionism
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on May 06, 2016, 08:11:13 AM
anong latest issue tungkol dun sa TV ad ni trilliones (?).

dami sa FB feed nakaka-asar magbasa doon. at least dito, mahinahon ang mga tao.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 06, 2016, 08:15:49 AM
anong latest issue tungkol dun sa TV ad ni trilliones (?).

dami sa FB feed nakaka-asar magbasa doon. at least dito, mahinahon ang mga tao.

Sa pagkaka-intindi ko child-abuse/exploitation daw.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on May 06, 2016, 09:36:49 AM
^in what way? I haven't seen the ad itself.

Thinking objectively...

KUNG totoo at tama ang posisyon ni trillianes, di ba okay ang ginawa nya para ipaalam sa taong bayan? OR mali ang paraan niya kung paano ipinaalam sa taong bayan?

nagtatanong lang po.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 06, 2016, 11:20:00 AM
anong latest issue tungkol dun sa TV ad ni trilliones (?).

dami sa FB feed nakaka-asar magbasa doon. at least dito, mahinahon ang mga tao.

Sa pagkaka-intindi ko child-abuse/exploitation daw.


^in what way? I haven't seen the ad itself.

Thinking objectively...

KUNG totoo at tama ang posisyon ni trillianes, di ba okay ang ginawa nya para ipaalam sa taong bayan? OR mali ang paraan niya kung paano ipinaalam sa taong bayan?

nagtatanong lang po.

Ok I heard on the radio saner individuals are citing child-exploitation, which I agree, medyo low-blow nga.

However, the rabid ones (in FB that is) are calling out the networks especially ABS-CBN for alleged violation of Section 13 of RA 9006:

"Section 13. Authority of the COMELEC to Promulgate Rules; Election Offenses. - The COMELEC shall promulgate and furnish all political parties and candidates and the mass media entities the rules and regulations for the implementation of this Act, consistent with the criteria established in Article IX-C, Section 4 of the Constitution and Section 86 of the Omnibus Election Code (Batas Pambansa Bldg. 881).

Rules and regulations promulgated by the COMELEC under and by authority of this Section shall take effect on the seventh day after their publication in at least two (2) daily newspapers of general circulation. Prior to effectivity of said rules and regulations, no political advertisement or propaganda for or against any candidate or political party shall be published or broadcast through mass media."

Here they highlight a part of the last sentence of the second paragraph: no political advertisement or propaganda for or against any candidate or political party shall be published or broadcast through mass media.

But I think this rule is actually pertaining to a different thing entirely, which is about electioneering/premature campaigning.

Violation of this Act and the rules and regulations of the COMELEC issued to implement this Act shall be an election offense punishable under the first and second paragraphs of Section 264 of the Omnibus Election Code (Batas Pambansa Bldg. 881). 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on May 06, 2016, 12:20:52 PM
They're reacting to technicalities of the ad instead of the message.

Typical.

Tapatalked
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 06, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
You mean the message that says that Presidents raise kids and that disente means to rag on the other guy? The other candidates have the moral high ground and they have just gone down from that with this ad.

Duterte is a foul-mouthed misogynist that I would not trust to raise my daughter. But if my kid needed manners, she ought to learn it from me.

The ad doesn't help Duterte's rivals at all. It just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth in the use of kids to further a point. The whole demolition against him is that if you vote for him, you're indecent. That just further distances you from the electorate. The guy's appeal is that he's like that friend you talk to over a couple of beers. Going all high and mighty on the populace won't sway anyone at all. And they spent 20 million for that? And the networks actually agreed to airing it? So I guess, everything is fair game as long as money is involved.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on May 07, 2016, 01:53:38 AM
You mean the message that says that Presidents raise kids and that disente means to rag on the other guy? The other candidates have the moral high ground and they have just gone down from that with this ad.

Duterte is a foul-mouthed misogynist that I would not trust to raise my daughter. But if my kid needed manners, she ought to learn it from me.

The ad doesn't help Duterte's rivals at all. It just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth in the use of kids to further a point. The whole demolition against him is that if you vote for him, you're indecent. That just further distances you from the electorate. The guy's appeal is that he's like that friend you talk to over a couple of beers. Going all high and mighty on the populace won't sway anyone at all. And they spent 20 million for that? And the networks actually agreed to airing it? So I guess, everything is fair game as long as money is involved.

just one network agreed from what i heard.  yung iba di daw pumayag.  ang alam ko bawal dito sa pinas ang mag ads na negative diba? kaya nga laging brand x at brand y ang tawag sa competing brands.  sa america kasi alam ko pwede mga ganyan.  i saw advertisements in america that directly attacks the competition.  wala nang paisip isip pa.  sasabihin nila outright kung ano yung "lesser" brand.  pati political ads dun alam ko pwede sabihin pangalan nung sinisiraan mo.  alam ko kasi dito kung may sisiraan ka dapat di mo pangalanan.  dapat "blind item" palagi.  its quite surprising na nakalusot ito. 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on May 07, 2016, 01:57:47 AM
on another note, meron pala 20 million si trillianes para dun lang sa ad na yun.  wow

edit: both abs and gma aired the commercial pala.  thought it was just abs.  tv5 already denied airing those ads
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 07, 2016, 05:50:38 AM

You mean the message that says that Presidents raise kids and that disente means to rag on the other guy? The other candidates have the moral high ground and they have just gone down from that with this ad.

Duterte is a foul-mouthed misogynist that I would not trust to raise my daughter. But if my kid needed manners, she ought to learn it from me.

The ad doesn't help Duterte's rivals at all. It just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth in the use of kids to further a point. The whole demolition against him is that if you vote for him, you're indecent. That just further distances you from the electorate. The guy's appeal is that he's like that friend you talk to over a couple of beers. Going all high and mighty on the populace won't sway anyone at all. And they spent 20 million for that? And the networks actually agreed to airing it? So I guess, everything is fair game as long as money is involved.

just one network agreed from what i heard.  yung iba di daw pumayag.  ang alam ko bawal dito sa pinas ang mag ads na negative diba? kaya nga laging brand x at brand y ang tawag sa competing brands.  sa america kasi alam ko pwede mga ganyan.  i saw advertisements in america that directly attacks the competition.  wala nang paisip isip pa.  sasabihin nila outright kung ano yung "lesser" brand.  pati political ads dun alam ko pwede sabihin pangalan nung sinisiraan mo.  alam ko kasi dito kung may sisiraan ka dapat di mo pangalanan.  dapat "blind item" palagi.  its quite surprising na nakalusot ito.

Hindi naman sa bawal ang negative ads. Culture lang kasi natin yung nagpipigil. Kahit kaaway may galang pa rin. Pero ang isa talagang pumipigil eh yung threat ng libel. Tayo yata ang isa sa mga huling bansa  na meron pa nito.


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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on May 07, 2016, 05:56:45 AM

You mean the message that says that Presidents raise kids and that disente means to rag on the other guy? The other candidates have the moral high ground and they have just gone down from that with this ad.

Duterte is a foul-mouthed misogynist that I would not trust to raise my daughter. But if my kid needed manners, she ought to learn it from me.

The ad doesn't help Duterte's rivals at all. It just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth in the use of kids to further a point. The whole demolition against him is that if you vote for him, you're indecent. That just further distances you from the electorate. The guy's appeal is that he's like that friend you talk to over a couple of beers. Going all high and mighty on the populace won't sway anyone at all. And they spent 20 million for that? And the networks actually agreed to airing it? So I guess, everything is fair game as long as money is involved.

just one network agreed from what i heard.  yung iba di daw pumayag.  ang alam ko bawal dito sa pinas ang mag ads na negative diba? kaya nga laging brand x at brand y ang tawag sa competing brands.  sa america kasi alam ko pwede mga ganyan.  i saw advertisements in america that directly attacks the competition.  wala nang paisip isip pa.  sasabihin nila outright kung ano yung "lesser" brand.  pati political ads dun alam ko pwede sabihin pangalan nung sinisiraan mo.  alam ko kasi dito kung may sisiraan ka dapat di mo pangalanan.  dapat "blind item" palagi.  its quite surprising na nakalusot ito.

Hindi naman sa bawal ang negative ads. Culture lang kasi natin yung nagpipigil. Kahit kaaway may galang pa rin. Pero ang isa talagang pumipigil eh yung threat ng libel. Tayo yata ang isa sa mga huling bansa  na meron pa nito.


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well.  it seems to have backfired.  marami talagang nagalit dun sa negative ads. 
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 07, 2016, 02:12:32 PM
True, libel is an archaic law from the American times.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 07, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
Wait a minute, the majority of people who were "outraged" falsely with the negative ads were Duterte supporters.

Falsely because these are the same people who would celebrate the murder of minors and rape jokes while referring to "Mabuhay ang NPA" as hyperbole.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 07, 2016, 04:04:41 PM
True, libel is an archaic law from the American times.

These were statements made by Duterte in public and repeatedly played/shared/published online.  There is nothing libelous about it other than the idea that people would turn a blind eye to the barrage of anti-administration sentiments, mostly untrue, using 2nd tier viral media outlets.

Putangina ang bobobo natin.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 08, 2016, 10:11:20 AM
I was only referring to lahar's mention of libel being a deterrent to negative ads here as compared to the US.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Al on May 08, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
It's legality and morality hardly matter anymore. Nevertheless, it was a suckerpunch that obviously did not achieve the desired effect, or at the very least, not as much as the instigators had hoped, judging from the aftermath.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: ris on May 08, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
It's legality and morality hardly matter anymore. Nevertheless, it was a suckerpunch that obviously did not achieve the desired effect, or at the very least, not as much as the instigators had hoped, judging from the aftermath.

they did not realize that filipinos do not like that kind of advertisements.  it does more harm than good to the advertiser
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: sandstig on May 09, 2016, 06:14:09 AM
Stay safe. Hope there isn't any violence when you guys vote today.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on May 09, 2016, 10:05:58 AM
All done.

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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 09, 2016, 04:07:54 PM
I was only referring to lahar's mention of libel being a deterrent to negative ads here as compared to the US.

Erratum: Bobo referred to general sentiments of people who didn't understand the legal implications but were still outraged, not you luwe.

Public figures and public statements already publicized can't be covered by libel.  Doesn't make sense because you can't take it out of context.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 09, 2016, 04:15:28 PM
No harm done there.

Done voting as well. Much faster for me earlier compared to the last election.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: newcastle_29 on May 09, 2016, 08:55:03 PM
Duterte leads!


(http://s19.postimg.org/y1lyp57mb/election.jpg)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: icebuko on May 10, 2016, 03:47:13 AM
Leni leads by a small margin
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: altec on May 10, 2016, 10:40:39 AM
Duterte leads!
And Poe concedes!

Yahoo! Lamang na si Robredo. (And fwiw Ilocano ako.)
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/eleksyon2016/results (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/eleksyon2016/results)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: newcastle_29 on May 10, 2016, 11:20:35 AM
"Partial and Unofficial Results as of 11:00 AM, May 10, 2016 representing 90.84% of the Nationwide Election Returns. (85,637 of 94,276 Election Returns) (41,688,837 of 55,735,757 Registered Voters). Source: COMELEC-GMA"

Advance Congratulations to Duterte for winning the Presidency - from a Davaoeno


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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 10, 2016, 11:31:09 AM
Well, at least I hope Marcos doesn't win.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Louie on May 10, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Very close VP race. I also voted for Robredo.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 10, 2016, 03:18:57 PM
http://www.manilatimes.net/duterte-is-pnoys-real-legacy/258365/

Some thoughts on PNoy's term as we prepare to welcome our new gunslinging overlord.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 10, 2016, 08:00:46 PM
^ I was thinking the same thing. A Marcos neck-and-neck with Leni for the 2nd highest seat in the country is even more of an indication of the people's disappointment with Aquino.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on May 10, 2016, 10:38:59 PM
^ i dont think so. Our multi party system sucks.  We elect leaders that has no support of the majority.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: MtnDew on May 10, 2016, 11:55:13 PM
Hindi na sa akin mahalaga kung sino ang magiging pangulo, Duterte man o sino man. Makipag-cooperate na lang sa isat-isa, mas mahalaga pa rin sa akin ang individual effort at vigilance ng lahat, at kung may magandang plano man suportahan na lang, pero maging alisto pa rin sa abuso. Matuto sa nakaraan, huwag papadala sa mga palabas ng colosseo kumbaga.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 11, 2016, 02:29:10 AM
^ That's the good thing about US gub'ment. During campaign and election period the parties are at each other's throats, but after leaders are elected they at least have a more or less unified front. More unified than what happens here anyway.

In other news, PSE up 183 points today!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 11, 2016, 10:30:21 AM
Market jitters mainly due to peace and order situation with the elections.

We don't give the people in the COMELEC enough credit.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on May 11, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
didn't vote for DU30 but i'm excited for his presidency.  the fact that it's Du30 and Leni leading the top 2 positions reflects the fact that a lot are just sick and tired of the usual elite politicians running the show.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: AJ on May 12, 2016, 06:56:39 AM
kudos to Alikishi for the Maling and Corned beef projections!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 12, 2016, 07:41:19 AM
^ i dont think so. Our multi party system sucks.  We elect leaders that has no support of the majority.

Maganda sana kung meron tayo "run-off" or "two-round" voting where the top 2 candidates who did not get a clear majority or a rather tight race have another go.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: newcastle_29 on May 12, 2016, 09:37:32 PM
didn't vote for DU30 but i'm excited for his presidency.  the fact that it's Du30 and Leni leading the top 2 positions reflects the fact that a lot are just sick and tired of the usual elite politicians running the show.

true.. give this man a chance...  majority of us wanted him to win so let's just move on and support his presidency..
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 13, 2016, 07:09:07 AM
didn't vote for DU30 but i'm excited for his presidency.  the fact that it's Du30 and Leni leading the top 2 positions reflects the fact that a lot are just sick and tired of the usual elite politicians running the show.

true.. give this man a chance...  majority of us wanted him to win so let's just move on and support his presidency..


I wouldn't say majority.  There were more people who didn't want him to win.

He's now cleaning up his act, which is rather disconcerting considering the show he put on.  We should give him the benefit of the doubt.  Knowing Filipinos, however, it is just a matter of time when the complaints start rolling in.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 13, 2016, 07:31:35 AM
^already I'm hearing grumbles about his proposed liquor ban after midnight.

He also said something during the last debate (albeit not given attention by the media) about "burning dilapidated vehicles" to clear up the roads. I wonder if he will follow through with that.


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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on May 13, 2016, 08:10:31 AM
^already I'm hearing grumbles about his proposed liquor ban after midnight.

He also said something during the last debate (albeit not given attention by the media) about "burning dilapidated vehicles" to clear up the roads. I wonder if he will follow through with that.


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I won't be surprised if it's the very same people who clamored for his brand of change. Miracle worker talaga ang hanap nila hindi pangulo.

I'm all for his current proposals. Implementation ang magiging problema as always - mga matitigas na ayaw sumunod vs. "mababait" na enforcer.

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Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 27, 2016, 08:44:58 PM
Its over for Bong-bong!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 27, 2016, 09:52:29 PM
Whew!

That was close.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 28, 2016, 12:32:01 AM
Imagine the morons who backed up BBM!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: [X] on May 28, 2016, 01:51:53 AM
^ still not giving up that easy.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 30, 2016, 04:38:54 PM
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/05/30/1588188/self-confessed-poll-operator-surfaces
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: jorussic on May 30, 2016, 05:32:24 PM
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/05/30/1588188/self-confessed-poll-operator-surfaces
Still doesn't make sense.  If LP and the Administration went to all of the trouble to "shave" points off other candidates and put it in their bets, why not focus on Roxas?  Why is Leni supposedly reaping more benefits?

Mandaraya 1: Kelangan manalo ng mga kakampi natin sa LP!
Mandaraya 2: Siyempre, pero panalunin natin yung bise na wala naman masyadong kapangyarihan.  Yung Presidente bahala na siya! Ni huwag nating gawing malapit na laban!  Kelangan malayo yung agwat ni Digong ha!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: kenn on May 30, 2016, 10:16:29 PM
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/05/30/1588188/self-confessed-poll-operator-surfaces (http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/05/30/1588188/self-confessed-poll-operator-surfaces)
Still doesn't make sense.  If LP and the Administration went to all of the trouble to "shave" points off other candidates and put it in their bets, why not focus on Roxas?  Why is Leni supposedly reaping more benefits?




Mandaraya 1: Kelangan manalo ng mga kakampi natin sa LP!
Mandaraya 2: Siyempre, pero panalunin natin yung bise na wala naman masyadong kapangyarihan.  Yung Presidente bahala na siya! Ni huwag nating gawing malapit na laban!  Kelangan malayo yung agwat ni Digong ha!


kung nangyari kay erap, pwede naman ulitin kay duterts :)[/size]
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 31, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
If you're going to shave votes, why not shave big?  At the very least the questions about legitimacy will have been removed.

Sobrang kabobohan na iyan!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 31, 2016, 03:21:58 AM
^ My dad used to work for Comelec before he retired. I asked him about LP and Du30, and his take on this is vote shaving already happened, but Du30's lead was just so big he still roflstomps Mar and Poe even after getting cheated. LP focused on Leni because Mar had no chance.

> kung nangyari kay erap, pwede naman ulitin kay duterts
Not gonna happen. Public sentiment is overwhelmingly in his favor. Ever speak to a cabbie, jeepney driver or any sort of laborer nowadays? Everyone is freakin stoked with how the elections turned out. Du30 is vox populi.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 31, 2016, 07:40:14 AM
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/05/30/1588188/self-confessed-poll-operator-surfaces
Still doesn't make sense.  If LP and the Administration went to all of the trouble to "shave" points off other candidates and put it in their bets, why not focus on Roxas?  Why is Leni supposedly reaping more benefits?

Mandaraya 1: Kelangan manalo ng mga kakampi natin sa LP!
Mandaraya 2: Siyempre, pero panalunin natin yung bise na wala naman masyadong kapangyarihan.  Yung Presidente bahala na siya! Ni huwag nating gawing malapit na laban!  Kelangan malayo yung agwat ni Digong ha!

Assuming for a second that there were indeed points-shaving/dag-dag  bawas going on and favoring Roxas would be too obvious, why stop at Leni? Why not also trickle down to the LP senators? GMA did that during the "Hello Garci" affair. Besides, even though she is allied with the LP, I don't think its in her character to tolerate shenanigans. She is probably the only politician who actually believes in the party tenets (as opposed to others who only follow for as long as the party is in power and will jump ship the minute a new one is elected).
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on May 31, 2016, 08:31:21 PM
it'd look too obvious if it were a complete sweep for LP.  the gap between bbm and leni is small so it would look more realistic and cleaner that way.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 31, 2016, 08:49:25 PM
it'd look too obvious if it were a complete sweep for LP.  the gap between bbm and leni is small so it would look more realistic and cleaner that way.

Ok then lets assume the LP did cheat. Anybody here regret the outcome?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 31, 2016, 08:55:58 PM
I sure don't.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: dean on June 01, 2016, 12:42:43 AM
not me...but the fight ain't over as far as the bbm camp is concerned.

though i think it was LP's idea and not Leni's.  still, this won't be good for her if ever the allegations are proven to be true.  leni winning through this election rigging even if it's not her doing will surely polarize people even further.  it gives the bbm camp more ammo and it tarnishes leni's reputation quite badly.  when it comes to things like these, we should be scared of those who want to win the most.  at first it was bbm, now it's LP who really wants to win and that's not very good.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: waway on June 01, 2016, 02:34:53 AM
^kinda reminds me of the quote from restaurant at the end of the universe

"The major problem --- one of the major problems, for there are several --- one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.

To summarize: it is a well known fact, that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem."
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: friendlyfire on May 09, 2019, 07:49:18 AM
otso diretso. lets bring back our normalcy to our country.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 09, 2019, 10:59:10 AM
^ +1

At least to avoid the consolidation of absolute power in this country.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: theDUD3 on May 09, 2019, 04:34:05 PM
^ +2
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: wheelee on May 09, 2019, 05:44:26 PM
otso diretso. lets bring back our normalcy to our country.

I forgot what is the norm for our country, been out for so long haizzz
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 13, 2019, 10:26:50 AM
Yeah that Duterte supporter from NZ is pretty quiet as of late.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on May 13, 2019, 03:17:28 PM
Cast my vote for the 8 plus 4 more that I deem to be independent.
On the local side, didn't vote for the incumbent mayor and her relatives. Just because I feel that their clan's been in power for far too long.

Reports of broken VCMs on election day itself doesn't sound good...
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: calvin on May 13, 2019, 05:21:25 PM
I've heard of a lot of DDS supporters complaining of invalidated votes for shading more than 12 choices...
Good thing the President endorsed more than 12 Senatorial candidates...
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 13, 2019, 05:37:40 PM
I've heard of a lot of DDS supporters complaining of invalidated votes for shading more than 12 choices...
Good thing the President endorsed more than 12 Senatorial candidates...

You mean the memes are true?! OMG?!
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: altec on May 13, 2019, 06:05:48 PM
Bong revilla. Gwapo at mabait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCEvKxo8mg
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: altec on May 13, 2019, 08:11:55 PM
wala pa local election results? mayoral level?
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: icedrop on May 14, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
may unofficial results na rin for local sa pages ng gma at abscbn.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: splerdu on May 14, 2019, 10:23:08 AM
Bong revilla. Gwapo at mabait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCEvKxo8mg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCEvKxo8mg)

Sure win!

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/ac/c5/5dacc5f5488936881d250193a98d3c14.jpg)

may unofficial results na rin for local sa pages ng gma at abscbn.


Rappler's results page:
https://ph.rappler.com/elections/2019 (https://ph.rappler.com/elections/2019)

Comelec's official results page (hard to use!):
https://2019electionresults.comelec.gov.ph/#/dashboard (https://2019electionresults.comelec.gov.ph/#/dashboard)
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 14, 2019, 10:09:48 PM
The majority of the Filipino electorate is composed of class D and E.  Bread and circus is the game.
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: WallyWest on May 14, 2019, 10:22:53 PM
Bong revilla. Gwapo at mabait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCEvKxo8mg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCEvKxo8mg)
pero ang nagpanalo dyan...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91WKz9orCrs
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: lahar on May 14, 2019, 10:51:19 PM
At least he seems willing to learn...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=361429434495878&id=153592385279585
Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: Hajile on May 15, 2019, 10:46:19 AM

Bong revilla. Gwapo at mabait.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtCEvKxo8mg


 ??? :( :'(

Title: Re: Election 2016
Post by: TNT2bluz on May 15, 2019, 08:09:47 PM
At least he seems willing to learn...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=361429434495878&id=153592385279585

Yeah, I hope no one ends up a with a doctor one day who is also "at least" willing to learn.