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Title: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on May 24, 2010, 07:04:40 PM
For audio lovers! share yours! :)

my simple setup :

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7862/alloj.jpg)

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6808/edgef.jpg)

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3553/pk2g.jpg)

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/954/denon.jpg)

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6687/cans.jpg)

my travel buddy
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8540/dapq.jpg)

inventory :

DAP/Source : Asus X82 / Sony NWZ-S544
AMP : NuForce uDac / Crossroads Edge Amp / FiiO E5
Headphone : Alessandro MS1i / Koss PortaPro 25th aniv
Earphone : Denon AH-C710 / Yuin PK2

*Creative Zen /  Audio Technica SJ1 / Ep630 - naarbor na ni GF..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: ^_^japol on May 24, 2010, 08:15:52 PM
^ good stuff.

I'm not much of a audiophile but I do love my X-fi sa PC and will defend it (like I always have) vs onboard audio. I dont mind changing setting in between songs. I dont like my philipps headphones very much, hate my ipod earphones and my car's stereo needs some serious upgrading :p. Medyo picky rin kahit papano I guess. wala lang pambili lol.

I did have a bose acousticmass + yamaha amp + woofer before ondoy though, pwede narin.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on May 24, 2010, 08:49:19 PM
B&W 602/Wharf (old pics)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/popoycanton/IMG_2612.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/popoycanton/IMG_2609.jpg)

powered by Pioneer A-717 twin potted transformers, 100 watts per channel RMS into 8 ohms
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/popoycanton/IMG_2603.jpg)
(http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/a-717-in2.jpg)


old school studio monitor speakers my dad brought from Japan
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/popoycanton/IMG_1853Small.jpg)


I used to have wharf/yamaha receiver home theater set-up, nagsawa din ako :)
Kicker set-up sa kotse, nothing exceptional, pero not bad narin.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on May 24, 2010, 10:30:07 PM
i love those B&Ws... they have a very positive feedback :)
but they are a bit expensive...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: bravoexo on May 25, 2010, 07:33:30 AM
Hmm...napagiwanan na lahat ng setups ko.

Home Setup  6 year old

AVR: Harman Kardon 330
Fronts: Wharfdale Diamond 8.4's
Center: Philips something ha ha came from a 5.1 set
Sub: Philips 40W sub, from the same set.
TV: Philips 55" RPTV w00t!! ha ha...

Car Setup  4 year old

Fronts Seps: Acoustic Vertus 660T
Sub: Infinity Kappa 10.1
Seps Amp: JBL GTO 75.4 II
Sub Amp: JBL GTO 300.1 II
HU: Stock

Phone/Pod  2mo old/1.5year old

Pod: Ipod Touch 2ng Gen 32gb
Phone: HTC HD2
Earbuds: Philips Ipod series

PC Setup   1.5-2 years old

Speakers: Klipsch 2.1 GTX
Sub: Klipsch GTX series
Soundcard: On Board....he he
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on May 25, 2010, 09:16:11 AM
Ganda po ng mga B&W's.. Yung pong yellow na cone nya is Kevlar material po yun diba po? Pag nagka time po ako post ko ung sakin.. Busy po kasi sa work eh..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on May 25, 2010, 10:00:23 AM
Ipod shuffle 2nd gen 1g->Sennheiser PX100 or Sennheiser MX400 depending on mood.

I had/have:
Sennheiser HD495 (laspag na yung foam)
Sennheiser HD497 (lost)
Sennheiser HD201

but they're all back in the PH.

I want to try the Sandisk Clip+, maybe will get one in the next couple of months.  I'm quite happy with the PX-100s for sound quality/price (libre pa yung MX400 when I got them, hehe).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on May 25, 2010, 09:13:04 PM
Ganda po ng mga B&W's.. Yung pong yellow na cone nya is Kevlar material po yun diba po? Pag nagka time po ako post ko ung sakin.. Busy po kasi sa work eh..
B&W and Wharf, both kevlar. 


Panalo talaga B&Ws, they're definitely worth the moolah.  However, that's not to say the wharfs aren't on a level of their own.  They sound really good, you just need to pair them up w/ a good beefy amp. 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on May 25, 2010, 10:39:16 PM
update :

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/602/rcao.jpg)

pagnakabili ako ng motolite pwede ko na gawing portable amp itong Edge :D

DIY pure copper maddnezz!!!

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/575/rca1n.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on May 27, 2010, 01:03:06 PM
Audio set-up ko sa main rig ko..

Onkyo Amp
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4643320445_041aebfe9b_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4643319565_867991a01f_b.jpg)

Energy Bookshelf Speakers (they look cheap but they sound very good)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4643318773_803811d1ce_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4643932436_858f5bf79f_b.jpg)

The whole shebang w/ my grandpa's antique office desk
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4643931738_8e87f9f7db_b.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: 13ºburn on June 02, 2010, 12:45:27 AM
@heishi sir san mo nabili yang edge amp mo?!
around how much? thx..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 02, 2010, 08:31:45 AM
@13ºburn, dito sa VN got it for $109usd
para syang rebranded na firestone-audio Cute BEYOND :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: 13ºburn on June 04, 2010, 05:10:29 AM
ah ok sir. meron na kaya nyan dito sa 'tin?!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 04, 2010, 08:44:37 AM
ah ok sir. meron na kaya nyan dito sa 'tin?!

i doubt kahit sa mga audio store sa net bihira ang Edge amp. mostly Jaben of Singapore
ang nagbebenta ng CrossRoads products :)

btw, plus pogi points din sa Edge amp is you can rick-roll the Opamp chip ;D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 05, 2010, 05:43:34 PM
(http://cdn.head-fi.org/7/7c/7c2c4ed8_vbattach12467.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2regrko.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 05, 2010, 06:41:35 PM
vey nice setup

your lucky over there, dito kasi sa HK hindi kami makapag paptugtug ng malakas at siguradong mag rereklamo yung kapitbahay. last time I was watching Terminator on my HTPC connected to the Denon AVR-2105 kinatok ako ng kapitbahay dito  #_#

& if you won't lower down the volume police will come & you could be evicted from the flat :(

kaya hanggang ganito nalang muna ako
AKG's

(http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/10783/IMGP1311.JPG)

(http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/10783/IMGP1301.JPG)

parang hirap ang tenga ko kasi sa mga earbuds pero yung sa TDK na may malambot na foam na nag eexpand parang ok na sa akin yun at halos total silence pag yun ang gamit ko
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 05, 2010, 07:19:46 PM
Sayang naman sir. Iba parin yung sound pag galing sa speakers talaga. Pa-sound proof mo kaya ung place mo sir? Ehehe...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 05, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
Sayang naman sir. Iba parin yung sound pag galing sa speakers talaga.

+1

Lalo na pag HQ audio source, decent gears, proper speaker placement at acoustic treatment sa listening room. FTW talaga.

Not to take anything away from head-fi, though (greatly simplifies the above and cheaper but still different).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 05, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
^ I totally agree wit you guys, I have an HTPC setup in China using a 5.1 genius Soundcard + a sub woofer & watched Swordfish (travolta) & the sound was awesome when the bomb exploded i could really hear the sound turning around from right to back to left then center - woot-woot! talaga sya BUT for now HeadPhones muna me & i'm letting go the Denon AVR-2105, sayang lang kasi sya hindi masyadong nagagamit.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 06, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Studio set-up..
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv115/Andrewnarit/setup1.jpg)

(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv115/Andrewnarit/setup2.jpg)

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 06, 2010, 02:24:49 PM
(http://mrbsdomain.com/gallery2/d/11387-2/My%20Desk%20-%20February%202009.jpg)
(http://mrbsdomain.com/gallery2/d/11390-2/My+Desk+and+Chair.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 06, 2010, 03:35:59 PM
Laptop..

(http://i39.tinypic.com/vh58k0.jpg)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2zr2wit.jpg)


Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 06, 2010, 04:46:21 PM
@berdugoh,

are those setup yours?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Demo™ on June 06, 2010, 05:02:03 PM
Since when was the Z-5500 considered "Audiophile" level of speakers ?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on June 06, 2010, 05:32:08 PM
Since when was the Z-5500 considered "Audiophile" level of speakers ?

define "audiophile."  etymology says it's "lover of sound." you can't love sound with Z-5500s?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 06, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
@berdugoh,

are those setup yours?

Nope.. Just want to share the beauty of their audio gear.. Sa mga relatives and friends ko po yan..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 06, 2010, 08:35:27 PM
all of my DIY audio cables :D

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3874/allx.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 07, 2010, 01:28:55 AM
^Nice cables! Pwede pagawa? :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: 3vilClown on June 10, 2010, 01:38:57 PM
ang gaganda naman ng mga equipments, dami din palang mga enthusiast ng audio.....

eto po nasa house namin ngayon

7.1 setup (Back Speaker no photo)

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image193.jpg)

Front Speakers B&W DM 603 S2
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image197.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image198.jpg)

Center Speaker B&W LCR6 S2
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image199.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image200.jpg)

Rear Speaker B&W DM 602 S2
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image195.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image196.jpg)

Subs Paradigm
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image203.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image202.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image204.jpg)

Receiver Denon
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image201.jpg)

Studio PC with Samson Monitor Speakers
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image205.jpg)

Recording PC, Behringer Ultra Link Pro, dbx 166XL Compressor/Limiter/Gate, Samson S Phone Headphone Mixer/Amp
Crown XLS602
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image206.jpg)

JBL Loudspeakers
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image207.jpg)

Laney CX Monitor Speakers
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image209.jpg)

AKG M80 Headphone
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image211.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image212.jpg)

Guitar Amp Fender Stage 100, Line6 Spider II, (No photo) Fender BXR
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/joseph101/Home%20Electronics/Image208.jpg)

Yung car audio post ko nalang pag may pictures na ako hehehehe
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 10, 2010, 01:49:52 PM
ang ganda ng B&W speakers mo!!! (http://yahooemo.com/set/onion/92.gif)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: 3vilClown on June 10, 2010, 01:56:24 PM
thanks sir heishiro, post ko din yung dati kong gamit na speakers hanapin ko muna heheheheh...... polk audio 2.1 speakers sya, ganda din tumunog :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 10, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
wow may Polk ka din! gusto ko sana mag setup ng speaker dito kaso nasa dorm ako di pwede
masyadong malakas ang sounds, isa pa trabahador ako sa ibang bansa mahirap bitbitin ang
speaker setup pauwi if ever man mapatalsik ako sa trabaho :))
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 10, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
likewise din dito....
may mga Control 1 na binebenta sa murang halaga kaya lang halos wala na akong space dahil dito hehehe
(http://imagesb.ciao.com/iuk/images/products/normal/751/product-1751.jpg)

e ang liliit ng mga tirahan dito na saksakan naman ng mahal!

BTW do you still keep those good ol boombox? I still have 2x FH-7 MKII but speakers are kaput but they can easyly drive 12" 300W cone, still keeping the FH-818R, PMC-MD55 & with comments like this > http://www.ciao.co.uk/Reviews/Sony_DHC_MDX_10__1751  im still keeping the DHC-MDX10 ;)

is yours listed in this more than 10 pages of boombox museum? :D

http://pocketcalculatorshow.com/boombox/birth1.html
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 10, 2010, 05:22:00 PM
@3vilClown
Nagpapa-rent po ata kyo ng mga sound gear? Eh mga pang outdoor na po ung mga ibang gamit dyan ha..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: 3vilClown on June 10, 2010, 05:50:04 PM
@berdugoh - di po pinaparent yan, personal stuff po yan. yup, tulad nung jbl loudspeakers and laney pang outdoor po, pero hanggang garahe lang po namin umaabot and pag may party dito kami sa bahay hehehehehe

and mostly po yung mga gamit ko is pang studio recording :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 10, 2010, 08:08:24 PM
pansin ko din di ka mahilig sa AKG m80 ;D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 11, 2010, 01:27:58 AM
makikigulo lang.

i just got a new iPod, classic 120, loaded with aiff (transcoded from FLAC via iTunes), anyway, i don't think i'll get an amp for mobile use, and i might get the Koss PortaPro. any other suggestions/alternatives?

for home use, i got this epol dock connector with composite the standard rca cables (video, left and right audio), connected to my receiver. so for now, i'm pretty good with my music.  i'm going to upgrade next time, but for now, this is good.

i still use my good ol' JBL SCS10 system from 5-7 years ago, except that my sub went to my dad's, so i got a usaudio 510 sub. 512 sana, kaso baka overpowered naman sa room, 508 naman, bitin.

pictures, next time na lang, kapag nakapag-upgrade na ako ng receiver and tv. may mga napaglumaan ba kayo diyan na puwede ko bilhin? basta optical at may dts decoder, ok na ako. hehehe



for my computer, i'm thinking of getting Behringer MS20/40, any alternatives for that? currently using Altec Lancing 45.1 from the early 2000.

@wheelee
Control1, as in JBL CONTROL 1?! where? puwede ba ako magpabili if ever, magkano estimated cost?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 11, 2010, 11:47:27 AM
@dom,
bro ok na ok ang portapro, pero mukang di ka masusulit sa source mo better get a portable amp FiiO E7 + LOD
di kasi kagandahan ang SQ ng iPod, or better upgrade your mp3 player Sony or Cowon
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 13, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
new portable setup ;D

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8260/windu.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 14, 2010, 12:43:10 AM
i'm thinking of moving this thread to gadgets. do you guys agree?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on June 14, 2010, 01:51:40 AM
It'd make more sense to move it to Gadgets since it's less PC-centric in a way, much like DSLRs and handheld consoles, IMHO

Back on topic, my current portable audio setup  includes:

- Black iPod Classic 120GB (upgrade for my *dead* 80GB 5.5)
- SoundMagic PL11 in-ears
- Sony MDR-7506 (standard audio post gear from work that I bought off Amazon for $99)

I used to have several Senn CX300s & Creative EP-630s that either was sold/given to friends or got mangled through years of day-to-day use. I got the 7506s for their awesome flat response (no EQ-tweeking for me), but they're not really built for outdoor use, so I bought the PL11s 2 weeks ago for a more discreet-looking listening experience, and they have rave reviews as well, plus it's relatively cheap (P800 sa GoGadgets).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: mpfuf on June 14, 2010, 03:47:56 AM
@3vilClown

Ang galing! Halos pareho kayo ng setup ng dad ko. We had the same receiver, dvd player and have the same TV that we are still using now.

Our speakers are also b&w but are bookshelf type, Nautilus 805 paired with a  Sunfire True Subwoofer Signature.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 14, 2010, 09:27:40 AM
^ Ok lang po...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: intelathlon on June 14, 2010, 05:35:01 PM
@berdugoh
(http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv115/Andrewnarit/setup1.jpg)

nice table bro,san mo nabili and how much?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 17, 2010, 11:44:37 AM
^ Sorry po.. Di po sakin ung set-up na yan eh... Share ko lang po..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 17, 2010, 10:38:20 PM
Anyone know where I can buy these soundcards in the PH or SG?

(http://www.jp.onkyo.com/wavio/90pci/images/top_main.jpg)

Onkyo WAVIO SE90-PCI
http://www.jp.onkyo.com/wavio/90pci/ (http://www.jp.onkyo.com/wavio/90pci/)

(http://www.audiotrak.net/images/products/prodigyhd2_large.jpg)
AudioTrak Prodigy HD2

http://www.audiotrak.net/products/prodigyhd2/ (http://www.audiotrak.net/products/prodigyhd2/)

I'm also open to suggestions for similarly priced external DACs with SPDIF inputs.

Thanks.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 17, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
^ i think i saw one of thse here in HK
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 17, 2010, 10:58:42 PM
Any idea how much they cost there?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 17, 2010, 11:00:53 PM
hmmm around $HK600~1200, they has 3 kinds if my memory serves me right. next time i pass by i'll take a photo of it.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 17, 2010, 11:02:11 PM
^ thanks!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 19, 2010, 07:31:10 PM
Anyone know where I can buy these soundcards in the PH or SG?

(http://www.jp.onkyo.com/wavio/90pci/images/top_main.jpg)

Onkyo WAVIO SE90-PCI
http://www.jp.onkyo.com/wavio/90pci/ (http://www.jp.onkyo.com/wavio/90pci/)

(http://www.audiotrak.net/images/products/prodigyhd2_large.jpg)
AudioTrak Prodigy HD2

http://www.audiotrak.net/products/prodigyhd2/ (http://www.audiotrak.net/products/prodigyhd2/)

I'm also open to suggestions for similarly priced external DACs with SPDIF inputs.

Thanks.

WOW!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 21, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
may naka try naba nito? :D

http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=5734
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 21, 2010, 08:31:36 PM
sir wheelee daan ka sa mingo meron sila ;D try mo din yung HD800 at Bayer T1
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 02, 2010, 05:41:09 PM
Si President Noynoy audiophile din. 
http://www.gmanews.tv/video/62429/noynoy-takes-break-from-inauguration-preparations-to-buy-cd
pinakita bahagya ung gears niya kaya lang ung back panel.  Sa ibang interview nakita ko gamit niya black floorstanders pero back panel lang din ang shot, sayang.  Ano kaya gamit nyang gears? interesting
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 02, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
omg! ninong noy balato mo na sakin ang cd player mo :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jepoi on July 03, 2010, 05:42:03 AM
saan ako pwede makabili ng SoundMagic PL11 in-ears saka how much?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on July 03, 2010, 11:57:25 AM
Si President Noynoy audiophile din. 
http://www.gmanews.tv/video/62429/noynoy-takes-break-from-inauguration-preparations-to-buy-cd
pinakita bahagya ung gears niya kaya lang ung back panel.  Sa ibang interview nakita ko gamit niya black floorstanders pero back panel lang din ang shot, sayang.  Ano kaya gamit nyang gears? interesting

He also collect guns and rifles. Hhmmm.. Ilan na kaya mga baril nya?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 03, 2010, 08:11:45 PM
im thinking to buy BayerDynamics DT 990Pro 250 ohms :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: art on July 03, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
@intelathlon
http://www.ikea.com.sg/en/catalog/detail.asp?art=10161733&q=b3b18r65&cat=workspace
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Thakker on July 12, 2010, 06:02:16 PM
Tried playing with BFBC2 with Grado sr80i.. good sq but position was sometimes off.. may mga tunog na minsan malapit lang talaga, pero nasa malayo yung source lol. I heard replacing the pads with bowls (im using it with the L-cush) will widen its soundstage.. For now, I'll leave the grados to the music and movies.. as for FPS, its back to these:

(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp9/Thakkerson/IMG_1049.jpg)

Also tried CX300 II, pero mas trip ko pa din she9800.. maganda naman sq ng cx300ii ng sen, pero mas ok pa din soundstage ng 9800,
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: solidhelix08 on July 12, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
ganyan pala itsura ng 9800, i have the 9700 on my ipod ...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on July 17, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
saan ako pwede makabili ng SoundMagic PL11 in-ears saka how much?

Try gogadgets.multiply.com, andun yung address nila sa Gilmore..got mine for P800 :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on August 13, 2010, 12:17:23 AM
i still have my very first dedicated MP3 player using CF cards, it can still pack a punch but the reason i'm not using it much anymore it because this NEXII has a thumping sound when turning on-off or even when changing music

my first from almost 7yrs ago  :lol:
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/600/imgp3526.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 13, 2010, 06:45:11 PM
nice i-grado! :D gusto ko na ulit makabalik sa mingo headphone nirvana!!! :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on August 25, 2010, 04:45:22 PM
just got me this Philips SHL9600, i wonder how it would compare to the iGrado & AKG K26P (my fav @ teh moment)

(http://pic0.picsorlinks.com/ph_or_39329_f859c3f.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 25, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
^ nice! parang AT ang porma :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 11, 2010, 11:13:49 PM
MP3 player sound quality:
Ipod = teh best! Probably better than your high-end cd player, in fact.

Found this while browsing anandtech's review on the new ipod touch:

Frequency Response Ipod Touch:
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1281/freqresponsetouch.png)

Noise:
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/2524/noiseleveltouch.png)

Stereo Separation:
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9347/crosstalktouch.png)

Compared to the Zune HD (Frequency Response):
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5161/freqresponsezunehd.png)

So of course I was a bit skeptical, because the graph only covers up to 15k and I started searching on other sites, ending up at stereophile.
http://www.stereophile.com/mediaservers/934/index5.html

Where they more or less confirm that the iPod frequency response is actually flat from the bottom all the way up to 20kHz
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3807/podfig01.jpg)

They have a bunch more objective tests, and ultimately conclude:
Quote
The iPod's measured behavior is better than many CD players—ironic, considering that most of the time it will be used to play MP3 and AAC files, which will not immediately benefit from such good performance.

So I guess right now, iPod+lossless AAC (im sure there's a way to transcode your FLACs) is where its at far as portable music is concerned.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 11, 2010, 11:19:23 PM
Oh yes:
The headset connector isn't as good as the dock line-out, unless you have the original iPhone.

From: http://blog.faberacoustical.com/2009/iphone/iphone-dock-and-headset-io-frequency-response/

Headphone:
(http://www.faberacoustical.com/Downloads/Projects/iPhoneTests/HeadsetInputResponse.png)

Dock:
(http://www.faberacoustical.com/Downloads/Projects/iPhoneTests/DockInputResponse.png)

Highs are still very good, flat all the way to 20kHz, but you do lose some bass when using the headphone connector, so investing in a dock is still in order. It also helps that it keeps the device charged.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 11, 2010, 11:57:37 PM
^ those graphs are cool, i also like to have an ipod + Lod + portable amp set-up but carrying those bulky things are pain!
its been 4 months im still waiting for the Yuin PK1 earbuds to have a new stock.. and its been 2 months im looking around
for SONY NWZ-A845 and still no stock here in VN :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on September 12, 2010, 12:57:55 AM
i tried the first gen touch & it didn't sound that good, i wonder the new gen ones...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 19, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4267/75610008.jpg)

fisher audio eterna rev 2 :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on October 02, 2010, 04:28:11 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/3153393361_fd5a643d32.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/michaeljamesjohnson/Computers/DSC00771.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk114/michaeljamesjohnson/Computers/DSC00769.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e161/tuesdayrock/IMG_0992.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on October 03, 2010, 04:15:59 PM
cool setup!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on October 03, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2482/holy3.jpg)

my babies! Denon C710 / Hippo VB / Fischer Audio Eterna :D

BASS GODZ
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on October 03, 2010, 07:11:16 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jepoi on October 04, 2010, 07:54:02 AM
@Heishi,

why'd you need more than one in-ear?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on October 04, 2010, 08:36:51 AM
@Heishi,

why'd you need more than one in-ear?

because he likes it in the ear.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on October 04, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
...or other parts where he can insert those buds lol
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: DarK_SiDe on October 04, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
anyone here know where i can have my Sein PMX 100 fixed? napatid yung cable connecting the Jack.

or madali lang ba DIY ito? liit kasi ng mga cable
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on October 04, 2010, 09:08:35 PM
coz i cant afford to collect cars :)) seriously i love to collect IEMs that are highly rated
none of them sounds the same, they all have diff. sound signature and i use them depends
on what music i want to listen. i also take the opportunity to have them while im here in VN
no local store in RP sells those IEMs..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on October 05, 2010, 11:43:55 AM
^ uy pa try naman pag napsyal ka dito sa HK ^_^
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on October 05, 2010, 09:02:44 PM
papi wheelee mas madami malupit sa mingo :D free to try pa anytime
i really miss HK.. pagpasok ko sa mingo halos malaglag ang laway ko sa dami ng earphones at headphones!!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on November 27, 2010, 06:30:15 PM
OMFGWTF!!! Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10 is being sold at amazon right now for $ 94.99! Got one the minute I saw the deal!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 27, 2010, 07:25:08 PM
OMFGWTF!!! Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10 is being sold at amazon right now for $ 94.99! Got one the minute I saw the deal!

i saw that too.. but... i dont like the design, muka syang side mirror ng kotse pag suot mo! lols
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 27, 2010, 10:59:27 PM
this is a longshot, since this is an audiophile thread (a.k.a. we spend a lot on audio stuff thread), but i'd like to ask for two things, (1) what's a good earphones for less than 1k, for everyday use and (2)  what's a good replacement for my behringer hpx4000/hps5000, i'm gonna use it for video editing/audio monitoring during shoots. thank you! ^_^

for 1: earphones (non in-ear type), below 1k.
for 2: headphones only. hopefully below 4k.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 27, 2010, 11:01:30 PM
oh and i saw some ultimate ears in trinoma power mac store (or something like that). ang maahaaaaaal pala. @_@
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 27, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
yes uber mahal sa mac stores! :D

dom try mo yung Soundmagic PL11 800 lang sya maganda na ang tunog you search TPC for X_Eggy (Gogadgets)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 27, 2010, 11:48:35 PM
yes uber mahal sa mac stores! :D

dom try mo yung Soundmagic PL11 800 lang sya maganda na ang tunog you search TPC for X_Eggy (Gogadgets)
thanks!
but i'm looking for non in-ear types :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on January 19, 2011, 02:45:23 AM
yes uber mahal sa mac stores! :D

dom try mo yung Soundmagic PL11 800 lang sya maganda na ang tunog you search TPC for X_Eggy (Gogadgets)
thanks!
but i'm looking for non in-ear types :)
@dom
ano nabili mo non in-ear?  I'm also looking for one, thanks.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 20, 2011, 11:58:50 PM
yes uber mahal sa mac stores! :D

dom try mo yung Soundmagic PL11 800 lang sya maganda na ang tunog you search TPC for X_Eggy (Gogadgets)
thanks!
but i'm looking for non in-ear types :)
@dom
ano nabili mo non in-ear?  I'm also looking for one, thanks.

wala pa rin. HAHAHA!
i'm looking at some Koss earphones sa 5th ave trinoma, one of these days. :D

i'm using px-100-II right now though. hahaha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on January 21, 2011, 08:18:12 PM
yes uber mahal sa mac stores! :D

dom try mo yung Soundmagic PL11 800 lang sya maganda na ang tunog you search TPC for X_Eggy (Gogadgets)
thanks!
but i'm looking for non in-ear types :)
@dom
ano nabili mo non in-ear?  I'm also looking for one, thanks.

wala pa rin. HAHAHA!
i'm looking at some Koss earphones sa 5th ave trinoma, one of these days. :D

i'm using px-100-II right now though. hahaha
hehe, hirap pumili pag-1k lang budget.  Medyo interested ako sa koss KSC75.  Kung wala talaga makita iba i'll probably go for it.  Kasawa na ung senn in-ear ko, I was actually using the earphones that came w/ my sansa clip, okay naman, kaya lang nasira na.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on January 25, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
(http://assets.head-fi.org/b/b2/1000x500px-LL-b20bc6da_070.JPG)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on January 31, 2011, 05:15:47 PM
(http://assets.head-fi.org/7/7b/1000x500px-LL-7b8397ac_myrig6.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on January 31, 2011, 06:52:51 PM
@berdugoh,

Kindly cite the source/s next time, please :)

Back on topic, I need your help, guys. I've been an in-ear user for the past 5-6 years, and although I enjoy the clarity and value in the likes of Senss' CX300s and Soundmagic PL11s, the close proximity to the ear is putting a toll to my hearing. I switched to headphones awhile back, but find these beasts unwieldy to use, especially outdoors. Could you recommend an over-the-ear model like the PX100s but somewhat more affordable, and with a comparable sound quality?

thanks in advance!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: solidhelix08 on January 31, 2011, 07:35:36 PM
meron pa ba kayo alam na online dealer ng soundmagic pl11?

parang gusto ko i-try, currently using ep-630. same lang ba sila?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on January 31, 2011, 08:04:25 PM
Quote
the close proximity to the ear is putting a toll to my hearing.

your volume, it is too loud.  even if you switch to full size headphones you'll still mess up your ears if you don't lower the volume.

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on January 31, 2011, 09:17:28 PM
Quote
the close proximity to the ear is putting a toll to my hearing.

your volume, it is too loud.  even if you switch to full size headphones you'll still mess up your ears if you don't lower the volume.


Yep, that's what I intend to do. I just would like  to stop using in-ears altogether and switch to small over-the-ear types like the PX-100. To add, I'm not a "bass-head" and would actually prefer a flat response over boomy types. Searching the interwebs point me to the PX-100 II, but i'm a bit put off by the price (almost P3K). Any cheaper but comparable alternatives?

@solidhelix08

Aside from gogadgets and fiiophils (from TPC), I'm not sure if there are other local sources for soundmagic products. SQ-wise, I'd say that the PL11 is better than the EP-630, it's almost up there with the original CX300. And the P800 price can't be beat (yet).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: athlonFan on January 31, 2011, 09:24:59 PM
@otacon,

The PX series are the veiled *boomy* type. I switched to a Jays Audio VJays headphones and SQ is about the same but the sound sig is somewhat more upfront much like a lowend Grado minus the irritating mids and highs :)

edit: meron din pala koss portapro @ 5th avenue stores, na try ko minsan and ok naman, ayaw ko lang yung build quality ng headphones, masyadong plasticky.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 01, 2011, 02:04:21 PM
for me the best ang Hippo VB :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on February 01, 2011, 04:39:31 PM
Quote
the close proximity to the ear is putting a toll to my hearing.

your volume, it is too loud.  even if you switch to full size headphones you'll still mess up your ears if you don't lower the volume.


Yep, that's what I intend to do. I just would like  to stop using in-ears altogether and switch to small over-the-ear types like the PX-100. To add, I'm not a "bass-head" and would actually prefer a flat response over boomy types. Searching the interwebs point me to the PX-100 II, but i'm a bit put off by the price (almost P3K). Any cheaper but comparable alternatives?

Get studio monitors, those have flat frequency response graphs.  The cheapest i've seen locally so far are the Sony MDRV150.  IIRC *someone* is selling these at the black market section.

If you're used to headphones/earphones tuned for portable devices,  they will start out as sounding dull.  Studio monitors generally cause less ear fatigue and are truer to the mix.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 01, 2011, 10:17:16 PM
^ The thing is about flat frequency response monitors is that they tend to be revealing of the sound quality of the recording. Bad recordings will sound bad and good recordings will sound good so it may not necessary be less fatiguing overall. Also consider that a good number of mainstream music is brick-walled in loudness for the last couple of decades.

Some speakers/headphones/earphones have "warm" frequency curves that round out the harshness of some recordings and make them more pleasant to listen to. This is also applies to the popularity of analog, vacuum tubes and vinyl among audiophiles.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on February 01, 2011, 10:39:53 PM
^ true that, exactly.  i re-read my post and i guess i was unclear.  i was comparing studio monitors to the so called "MP3 headphones" that have shelved mids.  Those can make crappily recorded or encoded audio sound a bit better but tends to tire more than decent studio cans.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on February 02, 2011, 02:30:28 AM
Get studio monitors, those have flat frequency response graphs.  The cheapest i've seen locally so far are the Sony MDRV150.  IIRC *someone* is selling these at the black market section.

If you're used to headphones/earphones tuned for portable devices,  they will start out as sounding dull.  Studio monitors generally cause less ear fatigue and are truer to the mix.

Subtle hint there, sir..nice, gonna do some research on that, then:D

Just to put things in perspective, this is the *beast* I mentioned using quite regularly:

Sony MDR-7506
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyCS8yYTkgb7Miv1NGwmoh0uZDxYV5gUKUGnbuRKYo5yi9l46Ldw)

Not the loudest, but it's still certainly up there in terms of clarity and flat response, definitely hella bulky, just imagine wearing these during your daily commute!

I'm not looking for something that'll match the 7506s' frequency response, just something more suited for outdoor and casual non-critical use. So far my candidates are:

1. Audio Technica Onto (ATH-ON3)
2. Urbanears Tanto
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on February 04, 2011, 02:17:01 PM
(http://assets.head-fi.org/2/2f/1002x751px-LL-2fa7c725_IMG_4600.jpg)
(http://assets.head-fi.org/f/f1/1000x500px-LL-f1d3c256_DSC_0056.png)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: zer0 on February 04, 2011, 02:26:07 PM
nice tables!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 04, 2011, 04:41:17 PM
WTF! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290040&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=1727683&SID=)
wtf1.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001FTVE0?ie=UTF8&tag=logicbuy-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0001FTVE0)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on February 04, 2011, 04:42:50 PM
Hayyzz..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on February 04, 2011, 07:46:46 PM
berdugoh,
CITE YOUR SOURCES!!!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 10, 2011, 12:27:49 PM
Any feedbacks with the Grado Alessandro MS1i? I'm planning to purchase one but was confused on how would it fair with the SR80i. It will be amplified with an iTube fatman desktop amplifier.

I'm upgrading from a sennheiser HD435 btw.

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 10, 2011, 01:35:34 PM
sabi nila ang MS1i is rebranded na Grado 225, kasi sa SQ malapit sa 225 ang quality.
im also a very happy MS1i owner ^__^

GO for it!!! 32ohms lang ang MS1i hindi need ng amp to make it sounds good
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 10, 2011, 05:58:44 PM
Sir Heishi, what would be the average price here in the Philippines. Any idea where to buy one locally as well?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 10, 2011, 06:47:25 PM
hindi ko lang alam sa local market ang price kasi alam ko walang Alessando na binibenta sa market saatin
pero sa TPC meron ka makikitang nagbebenta around 5-6k ang isang MS1i
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 10, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
Sir, recently may nagoffer sa akin brand new. 5.5k kasama na yung hard case. Any ideas what are the items included in the box? Would this be feasible rather than buying a mid end iem. e.g Klipsch Image S4i or greater?

I'm currently deciding whether buying a grado ms1i versus a similarly priced iem.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 10, 2011, 08:04:25 PM
things depends on what you prefer, iems are portable, MS1i is not.
iems have better bass that open back headphones.
open back headphones sounds more smooth and clean (IMO)

yan din ang prob saatin, there are plenty of good HP and iems kaso wala sa local market..
kung makakahanap ka ng Hippo VB i really recommend that iem.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 10, 2011, 11:40:04 PM
Its strictly for private listening lang naman po. Compared to the SR80i, mas sulit po talaga yung MS1-i mentioning that its a "tweaked" driver based from the SR125i which costs twice as much as the MS1-i?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 11, 2011, 09:05:17 PM
yes, may people praise the MS1i's SQ than SR80s.
for private listening mag iem ka nalang, pero much better ma try mo muna ang MS1, im not sure
kung masasatisfied ka sa bass niya since open back sya.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 12, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
Just got a reservation slip for the grado alessandro ms1i. I've bought gs1000 bowls as well to replace its flat stock pads. Recently I've read some articles on the web regarding the "MS1000" mod. Is it worth to do it? My only problem is that I can't find those distancers/spacers locally. Might as well add if where can I buy wood enclosures for the drivers as well. Some sites state that the quality after the mod improved the listening experience comparable to $250++ tier headphones
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 12, 2011, 10:53:13 AM
seriously? will sounds like $250 headphones? haha!
here in VN na try ko na ng ilang beses yang MS1 mod converting into wood cups + gs1000 bowl + distancers
ang malaking pagbabago lang na narinig ko eh yung soundstage, since merong distancers lumayu ng konti yung
driver sa tenga kaya mas naging wide ang tunog, plus factor din yung Gs-bowl kasi mas comfortable sa gamitin
other than that walang nabago sa SQ.

wag ka masyado nagpapaniwala sa mga nababasa mo sa forum, lahat yun eh opinion lang ng mga nakagamit at
mayroon pati na din ng mga panatiko. much better na ma-try mo sa sarili mong tenga at ng marinig mo ng husto.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 12, 2011, 09:36:37 PM
Burn in TIME!!!

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2ihthmr.jpg)


I auditioned it side by side with the SR80i. It was almost the same but the SR80i was too bright. It was fun but for prolonged playing, nakaka-fatigue.

Bigla akong nangati uli. Eyeing for the SR325i this time.

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 12, 2011, 10:07:49 PM
always make sure na hindi mapapasukan ng buhok or any dirt yung back ng heaphone
magkaka garalgal na tunog sya at mahirap alisin pag sumingit sa luob ng gril. enjoy! ^__^

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 12, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
Sir, yung lettering po ba sa enclosure, madaling mapugas? Some of the lettering are having hints of losing color.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 12, 2011, 10:35:46 PM
pag nasabit sabit yup natatangal talaga sakin so far wala pa naman lagi nakalagay sa kahon ng moon-cake :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: surgeon general on February 14, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
My Home office audio set up.

Tivoli Audio Henry Kloss Model 1
Model 2
Model Subwoofer

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/Office%20Music/IMG_4436.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/Office%20Music/IMG_4442.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/Office%20Music/IMG_4440.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jepoi on February 26, 2011, 04:07:36 AM
quick question sirs.

how do you properly burn in an in-ear (or any other type) earphones?

i plan on getting an SM PL30 eh.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on February 26, 2011, 09:46:09 AM
^ just let it play with any DAP + bassy tracks, you can also use pink/white noise. i burn-in my HP/iem around 100 hours
hinay hinay lang din sa volume, i increment the volume every 2-3 hours hangang sa pandinig ko eh enough na para sa HP/iem
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on March 27, 2011, 06:55:13 PM
got my Yuin Pk1 today! wooot!

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5723/pk1vk.jpg)

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3364/yuins.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on March 31, 2011, 04:00:05 AM
How does it compare to your beloved hippo vb master?

Nanglalason ka nanaman.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on March 31, 2011, 08:03:42 PM
its hard to compare a budz and a canal phone, since iem do more isolation and better fit therefore you get more bass
compared to a buds. siguro mas magandang comparison is Pk1 vs Pk2. without amp, the Pk2 is better, all better.
pero pag naka-amp na ang Pk1 isa na syang Monster! hehe! mas malalim talaga ang bass ng Pk1 compared sa Pk2
pati sound stage rinig mo pagkakaiba para kang naka Headphone. and comparing the highs mas crisp ang Pk1
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jester on March 31, 2011, 11:04:25 PM
I need some help for a portable setup.

I recently got a Studio Beats (gift) and I'm looking for a good pmp. I'm currently looking at these:
Creative Labs Zen X-Fi 2
Ipod Nano
Sony Walkman S-544 Series 8
Or if you have any suggestions.

Also I saw this (FiiO E5 Headphone Amplifier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001P9EQH8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AT5HPYEEN9G2E)) when I was searching through headphone amps, is it any good?

For my laptop use is this ok, or are there cheaper alternatives which I can source here or amazon.
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB Audio System with THX SB1240 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004275EO4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0H58189M98XRHNZC0WW3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on March 31, 2011, 11:29:00 PM
^ go for the Sony, thou im not sure about the Beat's specs if it need amp to sounds more/better.
and going portable with Beats? hmmm... IEM for portable "for me" ^__^
for lappy get the Udac 2.

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5203/portyt.jpg)

driving the 150 ohm budz! amazing! :D
im waiting for the new FiiO E11 i hope its more better than E7's amp
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jester on March 31, 2011, 11:50:27 PM
I'd be using it mostly in the office and when traveling, thats probably how portable is defined in my case. I won't exaclty be walking around with the beats. And with that I don't want to use my work laptop to play music so I want a dedicated player.

Is the sony with FiiO yours? That is how I imagined it would look like. I might copy that setup. But I'll look for angled jacks to connect the player with the amp.

I'll look into the UDAC2 and FiiO E7

Thanks a lot.

edit:
here are specs I got for the beats
    Speaker: 40mm
    Frequency Response: 20Hz - 20kHz
    Sensitivity: 110dB (+/- 2dB)
    Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): Less than or equal to 0.8% at 1Hz out 1mW
    Maximum Output: 115 dB
    Active Noise Reduction: -16dB +/- 2.0 dB at max
    Operation Voltage: 2.0 to 3.2V DC
    Rated Wattage: 0.15W (1 kHz @ 1mW)
    Weight: 260 grams
    Cable Length: 1.3 meters
    Connector: 1/8 inch (3.5mm) gold plated
    Type: Over Ear

Not sure if its helpful. But since it uses batteries for operation it might have a built-in preamp of some sort. It also powers the active noise cancellation.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 01, 2011, 12:02:55 AM
yup mine, i only use the E5 for the Yuin Pk1 my Sony Player cannot drive the 150ohm earbuds
some review say's E7 is good but dont expect much, i still prefer a dedicated amp and Dac
im using Udac ver1 a very big upgrade from lappy's onboard sound card. im hoping to get Udac 2..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on April 05, 2011, 09:40:26 AM
I'd say, get the E5.  It's cheap and readily available.  Anything sounds better w/ an amp.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: icebuko on April 05, 2011, 11:12:08 AM
May nabibilan ba ng comply foams dito satin or replacement tips? Nawala kasi yung medium ear tip nung ath-ck7 ko.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 05, 2011, 09:31:58 PM
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9637/iems.jpg)

dami na nila :D

Pk1, Pk2, Hippo VB, Fischer Eterna Vr2 and Denon C710
im not using my comply anymore.. the comfort is good but they make the sound too dark and kills the highs and some details..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: zer0 on April 05, 2011, 10:01:36 PM
ang dami nyan pre... dalawa lang ang tenga mo hehe :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 05, 2011, 10:06:09 PM
^ haha ok lang hirap naman makahanap ng mga IEMs na yan, parang collection na din
if ever mabigyan ako ng date kung kelan last day ko dito, bibili pako ng isa pang Hippo VB

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4658/casef.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jester on April 05, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
Been searching ebay for an E5, cheapest ones are from HK around P800 shipped. There is also one with an L3 LOD but will cost around P1400 shipped kasi from Ireland. If I buy them separately it think I'd save 200 or so.

Also been using the beats since I got it last saturday. I've probabaly been listening music using an ipod mini for more than 12hours. They said to "burn in" properly, so I've been diverse with my music.

I'm also going to re-rip my audio cd's, what format or coding setting you guys recommend.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 05, 2011, 10:58:50 PM
im only using 320 bit .mp3 format, im satisfied with it.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jester on April 25, 2011, 02:40:02 PM
Finally get the e5 and threw in an L3 along with it.

Using the line out cable turned out to be a good buy than just getting the e5. Not sure if its me but it does sound better with it.

(http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/45926/2680991950057559872S425x425Q85.jpg)


Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 25, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
^ true coz using LOD you bypass the Dap's (crap)amp section, now E5 driving your beats :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 04, 2011, 10:06:42 PM
yes uber mahal sa mac stores! :D

dom try mo yung Soundmagic PL11 800 lang sya maganda na ang tunog you search TPC for X_Eggy (Gogadgets)
thanks!
but i'm looking for non in-ear types :)
@dom
ano nabili mo non in-ear?  I'm also looking for one, thanks.

wala pa rin. HAHAHA!
i'm looking at some Koss earphones sa 5th ave trinoma, one of these days. :D

i'm using px-100-II right now though. hahaha
hehe, hirap pumili pag-1k lang budget.  Medyo interested ako sa koss KSC75.  Kung wala talaga makita iba i'll probably go for it.  Kasawa na ung senn in-ear ko, I was actually using the earphones that came w/ my sansa clip, okay naman, kaya lang nasira na.

OT: sorry, sobrang digging sa past.


anyway, i've tried one of the Koss earphones (actually 2). I like it for below 1k. sarap gamitin kapag malayuang commute. :)

right now i'm using a Philips earphone, dahil nagustuhan ng mom ko yung Koss ko, not sure with the model, but it serves its purpose. hahaha



on a different but slightly related topic.

just want to share my current set-up in my room. i know it's not exactly audiophile level, but i'm happy with it. :)

For Music
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/927/dscf3160r.jpg)

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/625/dscf3164u.jpg)

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2589/dscf3169g.jpg)

For Movies
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1053/dscf3171u.jpg)

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6045/dscf3172m.jpg)

Powered by:
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8528/dscf3175.jpg)






i'm actually looking forward in getting a dedicated stereo amplifiers one of these days.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 04, 2011, 10:12:18 PM
^ true coz using LOD you bypass the Dap's (crap)amp section, now E5 driving your beats :)
well not all. but at least LOD helps. :)

after shelling out my (dad's) Telarc CD collection and trying out some of my newer CDs (192kHz/24bit), I realized that iPod is just good for its portability, audio quality, still goes to CD or DVD or BluRay audio, even if i'm already playing AIFF files via LOD.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 05, 2011, 07:41:51 PM
^ ei dom gratz sa speakers mo anong sub bass gamit mo?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 05, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
^ ei dom gratz sa speakers mo anong sub bass gamit mo?
Sa ngayon us audio 10, step up from my jbl, yung kasama sa scs10. 

Ok naman, pero gusto ko na bumili ng cd player at bluray player. Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on June 06, 2011, 12:28:59 AM
My logitech clear chat usb headphone sounds way better/more accurate than my senn cx300, who knew :P
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on June 23, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
Anyone here who has already tried the Sansa Clip+? I'm contemplating to get one because of the wide codecs it can support like FLAC.


(http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/mp3-players/product-profile/sandisk-sansa-clip-4gb/314542-1-eng-US/sandisk-sansa-clip-4gb_large.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 23, 2011, 06:52:07 PM
^ do you think you can hear the diff between 320 bit MP3 vs Flac on that clip?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: zer0 on June 23, 2011, 06:55:06 PM
it will depend din sa earphones diba?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 23, 2011, 07:04:56 PM
it will depend din sa earphones diba?

yes, you also need to have a GOOD earphone to produce the detail of the music.
i really dont consider going to flac file, since they eat plenty of space and i also cant hear the diff between 320 bit MP3..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on June 23, 2011, 07:30:44 PM
I'll be pairing this pmp with the following gears:

Sennheiser HD25-1 II
Ultimate Ears TF10
Grado SR325is

I would just want to compare the sound quality of this pmp to apple's ipod touch and sony's walkman series. I've already sold my itouch 4g because I need some funds for a new laptop. The clip+ is being offered at a very good price considering the features it has.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on June 23, 2011, 10:49:04 PM
Quote
i really dont consider going to flac file, since they eat plenty of space and i also cant hear the diff between 320 bit MP3..

...you should be contributing your golden ears at hydrogenaudio if you can hear (proven with a double blind test) the difference between 320 bit VBR MP3 and FLAC.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 23, 2011, 11:37:23 PM
since iPod doesn't support FLAC, I use ALAC (.m4a) (apple's lossless codec), my brother and I believe that it sounds much better than at least 192kbps mp3 file, probably a littile bit better than 320kbps mp3 files. 

iPod output to either Sennheiser PX100-2 or Apple Dock to Harman Kardon 635 to Celestion 9.

file size is a bit big, but with an iPod classic (120GB), it should be much of a concern.
now i'm thinking if I should get a Fiio e7, it won't be useful for my computer though, since i have an optical out, so it'll be mainly for the iPod.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on June 24, 2011, 12:26:59 AM
Anyone here who has already tried the Sansa Clip+? I'm contemplating to get one because of the wide codecs it can support like FLAC.


(http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/mp3-players/product-profile/sandisk-sansa-clip-4gb/314542-1-eng-US/sandisk-sansa-clip-4gb_large.jpg)
I have one Keiji-san.  Sounds good out of the box. 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 24, 2011, 09:43:50 AM
nice player, powerful BASS :-D
but it can hardly drive my iGrado to it's optimum level, for other phones like the AKG & Beats it's OK
Yes Flac will sound different from 128 to 192 but not much from 320, I just use VBR in cdEX
(http://usera.imagecave.com/duron/picture_00388.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on June 25, 2011, 09:17:29 AM
Pulled the trigger on purchasing the Clip+.

Is it okay to purchase a refurbished unit or should I opt for a new stock?

Thanks
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 25, 2011, 05:49:14 PM
^ Do the refurbished units have fresh rechargeable batteries installed? If not, go brand new.

Did I mention, the clip+ sounds very full and clean on pretty much every earphone and car stereo I hook it up to. Bang for the buck indeed.

One more thing, Rockboxing it will expand the functionality of the Clip+ significantly but install at your own risk.

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 26, 2011, 11:18:59 PM
(http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/2505/allwz.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: berdugoh on June 27, 2011, 11:27:11 AM
^ Ganda ha.. Para saan mga yan sir? Saan mo gagamitin? Dami eh.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jorussic on June 27, 2011, 12:10:57 PM
After years of not using earphones, I'm testing a Nakamichi NEP E200.  Still breaking it.  The bass is too hard for my taste but hopefully it will soften after the break in.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on June 27, 2011, 09:40:35 PM
I just bought a sansa clip+ and I'm impressed with its sound quality for its price. My only gripe with the clip+ is the battery life which only topped out 8 hours.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on June 28, 2011, 03:59:02 PM
anyone know where I can buy comply foam tips locally?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 03, 2011, 08:25:33 PM
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5650/18885932.jpg)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8198/96148090.jpg)

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8133/81338879.jpg)

 :silly:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: BadoodleZ on July 05, 2011, 11:42:21 PM
just got these the past few weeks

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6007/ipode7a151.jpg)
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5492/denon1resized.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 06, 2011, 12:09:11 AM
@BadoodleZ

ikaw pala si giandude :silly: :P
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jester on July 06, 2011, 12:19:45 AM
@Heishiro
Wow.
Musta ang e11, still can't believe their selling it for just $60 (P2650 locally).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 06, 2011, 12:29:17 AM
@jester,
small, cheap and powerful :D this small baby can drive the pk1 sweetly :silly:
i also like its warm sig, im not using any EQ on my Dap, i just let E11 do all the rhythm
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on July 06, 2011, 08:43:06 AM
Is that new lason only an amp or is it an amp + dac combo sir?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 06, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
^ AMP lang si E11, yung E7 mayroon amp + dac
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: BadoodleZ on July 06, 2011, 01:44:41 PM
@BadoodleZ

ikaw pala si giandude :silly: :P

yeah, medyo nahihiya na ko magpakilala pag sinabi ko, hi i'm badoodlez
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on July 11, 2011, 02:19:33 PM
@Badoodlez
how's the E7's performance? i'm still thinking if I should buy one and maybe pair it with a sennheiser 595 and use it as a DAC. I like the idea of the E7 being DAC + amp and I was almost about to buy one a few weeks back but the last stock was defective. 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: BadoodleZ on July 11, 2011, 11:13:42 PM
well im no audiophile and i really dont have anything to compare it to as these are my first audio related stuff i bought.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on July 11, 2011, 11:43:41 PM
i just retired my 2-year-old Php 350 Sony Fontopia. does anyone know a suitable replacement for it that 1.) wont break Php 1,000, 2.) not in-ear (not a fan) and 3.) can match, or even trounce the Fontopia's output (bassy and loud)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 25, 2011, 09:29:16 AM
Hydrogen audio, general purveyors of quality digital sound is conducting a public listening test for 96kbps encoded AAC. The test itself, and samples are available from here:
http://listening-tests.hydrogenaudio.org/igorc/aac-96-a/

Good chance to contribute to the community, as well as assess your ears and setups. And yes, 96kbps VBR AAC is surprisingly good!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on July 31, 2011, 07:18:23 PM
Got the chance to audition the PK2. The poison was unbearable and I need to have one... bad....


Sir Heishi, any leads on where/how to purchase a PK1 to the Philippines?

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 31, 2011, 07:24:01 PM
Pk2? hmmm they are good, but not as good as a fully amp'ed Pk1. believe me!
dyan saatin baka pwede ka magpa request kay Dinkoy. local market wala talaga..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on July 31, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
Saint Heishi, anong amp ang maganda ang synergy sa pk1? Currently gumawa ako ng cmoy based amp at may p4v2 din ako.

Magkano po total damage sa inyo including shipping?

LASON!!!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 31, 2011, 09:01:41 PM
^ so far im using the FiiO E-11, maganda blending nya sa Pk1 talagang nag improve ang bass.
im also using Edge amp for desktop. dito ako nakabili ng Pk1 at Pk2 sa vietnam. pk2 $75, pk1 $155
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on August 01, 2011, 12:47:13 AM
7.5k including shipping. Shall I pull the trigger? How would this fair up with the senn hd25-1 mk ii?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: roskof on August 01, 2011, 11:30:08 AM
Ang gaganda naman ng mga audio equipment nyo mga sir!

May itatanong ako sa mga audio masters. Hindi ko na consider mag invest sa high end sound card kasi baka hindi ko mapansin yung difference dahil bingi ako lol, ang dati kong trabaho dealing with aircraft(F-18, F-16, F-14) constant exposure to noise degraded my hearing.

I've been looking at headphones for a while now, kailangan ko ng headphones na may surround sound for FPS games. Pero hindi ako makapag decide between USB or analog headphones. Baka hindi "good enough" yung onboard sound card ko for analog. Saka in the near future lalagyan ko ng pangatlong video card yung PC ko, so wala din slot available for a  PCI sound card.

Meron bang surround sound analog headphones?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: intelathlon on August 01, 2011, 05:56:46 PM
im not a master pero im a gamer,g35 user and ok na ok sa games.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on August 01, 2011, 09:20:55 PM
@roskof
Meron pong analog na surround sound headset. Bulky nga lang kasi ang daming 3.5mm plugs. One for front left and right channel, one for rear left and right channel, one center and the latter.

Sa usb naman, it has a built in DAC which means it bypasses your onboard audio device. Downside, processor cycles/ system resources ang ginagamit sa audio processing and virtualization.

Your choice po.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 03, 2011, 08:22:26 PM
Hi,

My ipod just got stolen today so im in a market for a new one, thinking of getting a iPod Nano 5th gen 16gb, any suggestions as an alternative to an apple? Or should i just stick to apple?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 03, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
@dom, try mo mag Sony :)
http://www.sony.com.ph/product/nwz-e455
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 03, 2011, 11:53:01 PM
@dom, try mo mag Sony :)
http://www.sony.com.ph/product/nwz-e455

Looks good, thanks bro! Ito + e11 no?
Currently using a goldring headphone.

How about those sansa clips?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 04, 2011, 12:24:49 AM
malakas naman ang output ng sony walkman, kung low impedance ang earphone hindi naman need ng amp.
pero kung gusto mong madagdagan ang quantity at quality ng bass pwede ka mag E-11 since may bass boost sya.
mag Sansa Fuze ka nalang bro mas mahaba ang battery life konti lang naman ang diff nya sa clip
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 04, 2011, 12:30:48 AM
malakas naman ang output ng sony walkman, kung low impedance ang earphone hindi naman need ng amp.
pero kung gusto mong madagdagan ang quantity at quality ng bass pwede ka mag E-11 since may bass boost sya.
mag Sansa Fuze ka nalang bro mas mahaba ang battery life konti lang naman ang diff nya sa clip

Ayt ayt, i think lang 32ohm yung akin, upgrade next time na lang siguro.
May player kaya na kaya mag flac 192khz/24bit?

Anyway, medyo pareho lang yung sony at sansa. Tingnan ko na lang kung ano mas mura at available dito. LOL, thanks Heishi

Not a fan of bass anymore, that's why i seldom use my sennheiser px100-ii. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on August 04, 2011, 04:49:43 AM
I hope Sony already improved on their software (specifically their content transfer software).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 04, 2011, 06:14:58 PM
I hope Sony already improved on their software (specifically their content transfer software).

no software needed. drag and drop lang pag transfer ng files, video, mp3, pics..

@dom, mas mura ng di hamak ang Sansa players, ang maganda kasi sa sony yung SQ nya specially
pag naka Equalizer ka, since may sony player nako ang plan ko naman susunod is Cowon J3 32gb.

    Cowon J3 Specs
    Capacity: 4/8/16/32GB internal, MicroSDHC slot up to 32GB
    Display: 3.3″ 480x272px capacitive AMOLED touchscreen
    Battery life: max. 64h for music, max. 11 hours for video
    Audio: MP3, WMA, OGG Vorbis, FLAC, APE, WAV, AAC/M4A (unofficially)
    Video: AVI, WMV, ASF, MP4 (unofficially) / DivX, XviD, WMV7/8/9, h.264 (unofficially)
    Subtitles: SMI, SRT (unofficially)
    Image viewer: JPEG, baseline and progressive
    Document viewer: TXT
    Bluetooth: 2.0, A2DP, AVCRP
    Transfer modes: MSC, MTP
    Additional features: Speaker, FM radio, voice recorder, line-in recorder, Flash 7 support, calculator, notepad,
    typist, stop watch, countdown, comic viewer, alarm, sleep timer, pan/balance
    Included accessories: earbuds, USB cable, software CD, quick start manual
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on August 04, 2011, 06:24:39 PM
I hope Sony already improved on their software (specifically their content transfer software).

no software needed. drag and drop lang pag transfer ng files, video, mp3, pics..

@dom, mas mura ng di hamak ang Sansa players, ang maganda kasi sa sony yung SQ nya specially
pag naka Equalizer ka, since may sony player nako ang plan ko naman susunod is Cowon J3 32gb.

   

My first Sony MD player's transfer software was really buggy (damn DRM). Good thing they got rid of it. Audio-wise Sony players are great. Still because of my experience with the software, I would go with the Sansa instead.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 04, 2011, 06:58:58 PM
^ haha thats long time ago, ngayun drag and drop nalang ang sony dap.
para lang syang usb flash drive, you can make folders and just drop all the files you like :)
pinaka gusto kong feature ng Sony yung Clear Bass, it really push the lows without distorting the rest of the frequency
problema lang din ang mahal ng Sony Dap dyan saatin, i have my Sony S544 (8gb) almost a year na din, nabili ko sya ng
around $120, pero dyan saatin grabe ang price P 8,999.00 :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 04, 2011, 09:47:49 PM
wooot!!!! Jaben Philippines!!! :silly: :silly:

http://jabenphilippines.blogspot.com/

pamatay nga lang mga prices! :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 04, 2011, 10:31:07 PM
wooot!!!! Jaben Philippines!!! :silly: :silly:

http://jabenphilippines.blogspot.com/

pamatay nga lang mga prices! :lol:

that alessandro ms1i is looking mighty sexy...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 04, 2011, 10:45:46 PM
^ if your not a basshead, go and get 1. im sure your going to love it.
amping it with E-11 will improve the bass quantity and quality.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 05, 2011, 12:22:10 AM
so SQ-wise, Sony DAP ang kunin ko? any other alternatives? (better i hope)... i like the fact na windows explorer/finder based lang ang transfer ng sony. :)

it's really nice to listen to music once you've started to not let the lows do all the work/impression and start to appreciate mids and highs.  i've learned this when i got my Celestion speakers and Goldring Headphones, parang bigla ayaw ko an gamitin yung PX100. if i wanted bass though, i'd just turn on the 12" subs. TUGZ TUGZ. LOL

edit:

wow, Cowon J3 costs 14k for the 32GB version.  I think it's either this or Measy X6. Decisions decisions. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 05, 2011, 01:01:12 AM
^ well im just hoping for J3 as of now, since its not available here in my location.. maybe ill try to sneak on TPC to order
and let my sister do the transaction. hehe. how i wish she will :lol: Yes! if you can get a Sony, go for Sony

that is actually the reason why i have a little plenty of headphones and earphones now, each and every HP/EP
have different sound signature, and they blend with specific genre mahirap makahanap ng all in one na HP/EP
if you can spend $500 or more for each, maybe all you need is 1 headphone as home use and one earphone for travel use

as of the moment dream earphone ko lang is JVC-Victor HP-FX700 :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 07, 2011, 06:49:13 PM
Got My Superlux HD668B today :happy: :happy:

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2054/668b.jpg)

(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4669/668b1.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 08, 2011, 01:59:27 AM
Got My Superlux HD668B today :happy: :happy:

 :huh: where'd you get it? i want one to replace my aging hd201's
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 08, 2011, 08:45:48 PM
^ got mine here in vietnam :happy:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 14, 2011, 05:44:36 PM
so i have a couple of choices. getting a couple of pairs of headphones from either amazon or newegg - one for gaming/movies and one for music. or should i just get one higher-budget pair that has a good soundstage? not much of a basshead, but when i watch stuff i don't want the action scenes to feel that they don't have any impact  :huh: budget is 6-7k. gotta decide on this soonish though, as my friend who's bringing stuff over for me is leaving by the 27th.

music options
Sony MDRZX700 PhP 3,654.54
Sony MDR-V6 PhP 2,813.42
Superlux HD668B PhP 2,508.22

gaming options
Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 PhP 3,851.08 (9,990 in weemall!)
Corsair HS1 PhP 3,972.72 (usb)
Corsair HS1ANA PhP 2,797.83 (analog)

all-in-one option:
Sennheiser HD595 PhP 6,493.07 (10,000 when you buy it here i think)
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 PhP 6,136.79

these are gonna be used almost exclusively at home since i already have px100ii's for my portable.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 14, 2011, 05:56:22 PM
so i have a couple of choices. getting a couple of pairs of headphones from either amazon or newegg - one for gaming/movies and one for music. or should i just get one higher-budget pair that has a good soundstage? not much of a basshead, but when i watch stuff i don't want the action scenes to feel that they don't have any impact  :huh: budget is 6-7k. gotta decide on this soonish though, as my friend who's bringing stuff over for me is leaving by the 27th.

music options
Sony MDRZX700 PhP 3,654.54
Sony MDR-V6 PhP 2,813.42
Superlux HD668B PhP 2,508.22

gaming options
Audio-Technica ATH-AD700 PhP 3,851.08 (9,990 in weemall!)
Corsair HS1 PhP 3,972.72 (usb surround sound)
Corsair HS1ANA PhP 2,797.83 (analog surround sound)

all-in-one option:
Sennheiser HD595 PhP 6,493.07 (10,000 when you buy it here i think)
Audio-Technica ATH-M50 PhP 6,136.79

these are gonna be used almost exclusively at home since i already have px100ii's for my portable.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 14, 2011, 10:47:29 PM
@hug_lyfe,

so far Superlux HD668B sa mga option mo yung narinig ko since meron ako, the other sony i never tried.
for me ok naman ang Superlux sabi nga sa review Superlux HD 668B: A Giant Killer? : http://www.headfonia.com/superlux-hd668b/
yung M50 na-try ko na before hindi ko type yung SQ nya masyadong Dark kulang sa sparkle ang highs
sabi nga sa Head-fi over-rated mas gusto ko pa din SQ ng HD668B then ipares mo yung FiiO E-11
and you will go bigtime sa SQ. sulit sa bulsa HD668B + E-11  :happy:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 14, 2011, 11:03:18 PM
thanks for the suggestion! mukhang game na yung hd668b. kamusta naman soundstage nya?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 14, 2011, 11:14:03 PM
^ semi open back sya expect a big sound-stage :D
btw, HD668B is 56 ohms you need amp to make it shine. get the E-11 and you are ready to go audio-nirvana!!!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 15, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
ordered  :mellow: just two weeks and i'll have 'em here at home!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 19, 2011, 03:45:13 AM
picked up a pair of superlux hd681f's on a whim, they sound great for what i paid... i like how they're much warmer than the senn hd201's. currently burning them in, and i'll try them again after around a day or so  :mellow:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 31, 2011, 02:01:29 AM
xonar dg and superlux hd668b are here!  :happy:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: roskof on October 01, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
Mga sir may itatanong ako, wala akong kaalam alam when it comes to audio. Meron bang pagkakaiba ang RCA at ang 3.5mm/auxiliary connection with the sound card and 2.1 speakers?

Eto ang hardware:

Creative X-fi Titanium HD
http://asia.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=874&product=19749 (http://asia.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=874&product=19749)

Corsair SP2500
http://www.corsair.com/pc-computer-audio/pc-computer-speakers/gaming-audio-series-sp2500-high-power-2-1-pc-speaker-system.html (http://www.corsair.com/pc-computer-audio/pc-computer-speakers/gaming-audio-series-sp2500-high-power-2-1-pc-speaker-system.html)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on October 01, 2011, 09:29:27 AM
Mga sir may itatanong ako, wala akong kaalam alam when it comes to audio. Meron bang pagkakaiba ang RCA at ang 3.5mm/auxiliary connection with the sound card and 2.1 speakers?

Eto ang hardware:

Creative X-fi Titanium HD
http://asia.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=874&product=19749 (http://asia.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=874&product=19749)

Corsair SP2500
http://www.corsair.com/pc-computer-audio/pc-computer-speakers/gaming-audio-series-sp2500-high-power-2-1-pc-speaker-system.html (http://www.corsair.com/pc-computer-audio/pc-computer-speakers/gaming-audio-series-sp2500-high-power-2-1-pc-speaker-system.html)

Wala. Parehong analog connection yan. yung RCA plug wires, ini-split lang yung left at right channel. Yung 3.5mm stereo plug, pinagsama lang sa isang plug yung left and right channel.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: roskof on October 01, 2011, 09:44:27 AM
@lahar
salamat!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 02, 2011, 07:39:09 PM
Superlux is now available here in Manila. Hehehe, just in case you guys wanna know. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 03, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
Superlux is now available here in Manila. Hehehe, just in case you guys wanna know. :)

yup nakita ko nga sa kabila yung items, mura sya di na kaylangan mag order online :)
also may mga seller na din ng FiiO products
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 03, 2011, 11:15:58 PM
Superlux is now available here in Manila. Hehehe, just in case you guys wanna know. :)

yup nakita ko nga sa kabila yung items, mura sya di na kaylangan mag order online :)
also may mga seller na din ng FiiO products

medyo matagal na yung FiiO dito, i think kasabay ng iPod Classic gen 5.5/6. yung Superlux recently lang, meron sa favorite store ko na Listening Room. HAHAHAH, I think I need to buy one (HD330 most likely) para mapahinga ng kaunti yung PX100 at DR100 ko, hopefully enough time yun para makaipon for HD595. :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 04, 2011, 10:51:01 PM
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7244/55141732.jpg)

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/295/85782967.jpg)

your sisters have those :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 04, 2011, 11:54:24 PM
so i got a new headphone to check if it's any good. :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381564_10150446091924700_593244699_8491785_272366426_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/374890_10150446092259700_593244699_8491789_1122002758_n.jpg)

not bad. :)


other headphones:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/374179_10150446092154700_593244699_8491788_1640989492_n.jpg)
Goldring DR100/150

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/380128_10150446092369700_593244699_8491791_1640982495_n.jpg)
Superlux HD669

driven by:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/383819_10150446092029700_593244699_8491787_192416443_n.jpg)
or
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/392273_10150446084934700_593244699_8491752_48804948_n.jpg)
or
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/381382_10150446086934700_593244699_8491766_2102104409_n.jpg)

so far i like best is the HD330 and DR150/DR100, then the HD66x
but for commute, I go back to my PX100.  :)

P.S. the DR150 and HD66x is owned by my brother.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 05, 2011, 08:50:57 AM
so i got a new headphone to check if it's any good. :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381564_10150446091924700_593244699_8491785_272366426_n.jpg)

nice! musta SQ nito?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 05, 2011, 12:30:14 PM
so i got a new headphone to check if it's any good. :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381564_10150446091924700_593244699_8491785_272366426_n.jpg)

nice! musta SQ nito?

very controlled SQ, the bass is present but not attention grabbing.  Highs are not piercing, and the mids/vocals renders my Phantom of the Opera 192/24 CD better than the Goldrings, very clean.  Better soundstage as well.  I find the other superlux we had to have a very thin and piercing highs, muddy mids and overpowering lows (which is good to cover the mid flaws, but the highs is just too much).

SULIT, you just need a very good amplifier. 150ohms is not your mp3 player's friend. hahahaha
kaya naman ng E11, pero it sings when powered by Marantz or the Harman Kardon.


once again, my plans to purchase an HD650 or Beyerdynamic 880 has been postponed. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: calvin on December 05, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
Anyone knows local stores which sells Marantz equipment?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 05, 2011, 05:14:56 PM
Anyone knows local stores which sells Marantz equipment?
i've seen some shops in Shang that handle Marantz, Listening in Style and I think Sights & Sounds. 
I think you can order at Listening Room Megamall.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 05, 2011, 07:19:02 PM
once again, my plans to purchase an HD650 or Beyerdynamic 880 has been postponed. :)

ako din, plan ko bumili dati ng DT 880 600ohm or AKG 702. kaso nakakalula ang price :D
after i bought my 668B hindi pako ulit bumili kahit isang audio gadget, im very satisfied with 668B
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on December 05, 2011, 11:32:41 PM
sir heishi, how does your ms1i compare to your superlux 668B?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 06, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
@NVIDIOT,

mas may bass ang 668B, pero mas smooth ang tunog ng MS1.
for me kung gagawan ng rating

MS1
high : 9/10
mid : 8.5/10
low : 6.5/10
detail : 9/10

668B
high : 8.5/10
mid : 7.5/10
low : 8/10
detail : 8/10

i can sell my MS1i anytime, but not my 668B :D
i think kahit makabili ka ng mahal na headphone kung di nya naman ma-meet yung taste mo bali wala lang din..
well iba iba naman ang music taste natin at iba iba din ang personal nating naririnig. 1st time ko palang marinig
ung tunog ng 668B alam ko na sa sarili ko na next headphone ko sya. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: calvin on December 06, 2011, 09:27:53 PM
Anyone knows local stores which sells Marantz equipment?
i've seen some shops in Shang that handle Marantz, Listening in Style and I think Sights & Sounds. 
I think you can order at Listening Room Megamall.

thanks.

arrgh... the one place I so detest in going to.
horrendous traffic jams in the area...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 06, 2011, 11:44:07 PM
Anyone knows local stores which sells Marantz equipment?
i've seen some shops in Shang that handle Marantz, Listening in Style and I think Sights & Sounds. 
I think you can order at Listening Room Megamall.

thanks.

arrgh... the one place I so detest in going to.
horrendous traffic jams in the area...

5th ave trinoma,
not 100% sure.

most likely meron din sa park square 1. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 10, 2011, 10:32:19 AM
my goal for before 2012 Q1 ends: http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/Zeppelin_Air/overview.html
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 10, 2011, 03:18:32 PM
my goal for before 2012 Q1 ends: http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/Zeppelin_Air/overview.html

Jesus!! you serious?? that will cost you more than your leg!
why not go with better monitor speaker for $500-600?

for ipod dock i think the Logitech S715i is a better value for the money.. (IMO)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 10, 2011, 07:08:19 PM
my goal for before 2012 Q1 ends: http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/Zeppelin_Air/overview.html

Jesus!! you serious?? that will cost you more than your leg!
why not go with better monitor speaker for $500-600?

for ipod dock i think the Logitech S715i is a better value for the money.. (IMO)
It's more for out of towns with family or friends (medyo hassle magdala ng 2speakers at amp, unless makahanap ako ng magandang pair na kaya ipower ng t-amp, pero 3 piece agad yun). So far yun lang yung nakita ko na nagustuhan ko yung tunog. :)
What monitor speaker would you suggest?

I haven't heard the S715i, hanap ako ng shop na nagdedemo nito. Or may alam ka bro?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on December 15, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
just stopping by to say that after i got my superlux hd668b's, i haven't craved for upgrades. i even turned down a pair of grados that a friend was selling for super cheap, because i couldn't imagine ever using them.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on December 15, 2011, 02:25:52 PM
my goal for before 2012 Q1 ends: http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/iPod_and_Computer_Speakers/Zeppelin_Air/overview.html

Jesus!! you serious?? that will cost you more than your leg!
why not go with better monitor speaker for $500-600?

for ipod dock i think the Logitech S715i is a better value for the money.. (IMO)
It's more for out of towns with family or friends (medyo hassle magdala ng 2speakers at amp, unless makahanap ako ng magandang pair na kaya ipower ng t-amp, pero 3 piece agad yun). So far yun lang yung nakita ko na nagustuhan ko yung tunog. :)
What monitor speaker would you suggest?

I haven't heard the S715i, hanap ako ng shop na nagdedemo nito. Or may alam ka bro?
B&W FTW!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 15, 2011, 10:43:56 PM
just stopping by to say that after i got my superlux hd668b's, i haven't craved for upgrades. i even turned down a pair of grados that a friend was selling for super cheap, because i couldn't imagine ever using them.

other than JVC HA-FX700 i dont see my self buying another audio gear :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on December 18, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
got myself an HD681B and an HD381F.  still short of an amplifier tho
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on February 03, 2012, 04:25:02 AM
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm123/ricoc82/FiiO/fiioe10.jpg)

FiiO E10 - PHP 3,700
*Output Power
150mW(32 ohm)
*digital analog converter (DAC) capability
*Coaxial output capability
*Powered by USB 

What you guys think of the e10? I'm maybe thinking of getting one. I'll be using it at my desktop, it's not going anywhere, so I'm not inclined to get something portable and absence of battery is moot to me.  What I need is clean sound, no distortion, flat. The price fits my budget just right, but if there are any other dac/amp out there in the same range, please kindly advice.

Thanks
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: surgeon general on February 12, 2012, 10:27:36 AM
i got tired of the iphone earphone and took the plunge. 

Westone UM1 Team Corsa Edition.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/um1_corsa.jpg)
kaso i had to give this to my son.  He broke 3 skull candy earphones in 4 months. 

So I got UM2.  Westone's dual driver in earphones.   I use these in the gym.  The heavier bass does help you go through the 4th set.   :wacko:
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/UM2_Package.jpg)

http://westonemusicproducts.com/music/index.php/products/universal-fit/um2.html
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on March 22, 2012, 02:28:48 AM
anyone know where one can find AKG velour pads compatible with the hd668b's here?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on April 10, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
anyone here tried the Lepai LP-2020A+ Tripath Amplifier? considering getting one to power my MS Carnival 1 bookshelf speakers for my laptop. current setup is Logitech Z2300 Sub and amp with the Carnival 1 as my satellites. wanna take away the Z2300 for more room below my table and was wonder hows the Lepai amp performance. any feed backs from PPCers using the said amp?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on April 11, 2012, 08:39:16 AM
anyone here tried the Lepai LP-2020A+ Tripath Amplifier? considering getting one to power my MS Carnival 1 bookshelf speakers for my laptop. current setup is Logitech Z2300 Sub and amp with the Carnival 1 as my satellites. wanna take away the Z2300 for more room below my table and was wonder hows the Lepai amp performance. any feed backs from PPCers using the said amp?

Not the lepai, but a TA2020 kit from ebay.  This one has premium parts (WIMA, Nichicon, all metal resistors).  Surprisingly nice for a small amp.  Pair it with efficient speakers (>88db) and you're set.  I still like my gainclones better, though.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on April 12, 2012, 09:31:28 PM
anyone here tried the Lepai LP-2020A+ Tripath Amplifier? considering getting one to power my MS Carnival 1 bookshelf speakers for my laptop. current setup is Logitech Z2300 Sub and amp with the Carnival 1 as my satellites. wanna take away the Z2300 for more room below my table and was wonder hows the Lepai amp performance. any feed backs from PPCers using the said amp?


Not the lepai, but a TA2020 kit from ebay.  This one has premium parts (WIMA, Nichicon, all metal resistors).  Surprisingly nice for a small amp.  Pair it with efficient speakers (>88db) and you're set.  I still like my gainclones better, though.

are those gainclone amps DIY or do have any brand/model you can recommend? would wanna try and audition them first before plunging..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on April 13, 2012, 08:41:48 AM
My gainclones (LM1875 and LM3886) are both DIY.  Go for the Lepai.  It's cheap and works well with your carnival for desktop use.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on April 14, 2012, 10:02:06 PM
thanks! but i hope i come across a gainclone amp prior to buying so i can audition both.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on April 14, 2012, 11:34:50 PM
eyeball audition na sir @slide! hehe

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Taggy on April 24, 2012, 08:13:59 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/381382_10150446086934700_593244699_8491766_2102104409_n.jpg)

sakura av200 yan tube diba? may nabibili pa ba na ganito? where?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on April 24, 2012, 08:31:41 AM
deeco raon.  the tubes in that are more form than function, though.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on April 25, 2012, 01:46:58 AM
guys maganda ba ang sound quality nito? plano ko sanang bilhin.  thanks.

Klipsch Image S4i
(http://mediacdn.shopatron.com/media/mfg/3579/product_image/thm/t450_e85835e4d36e11ca812525911ed34f2c.jpg?1335215718)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 25, 2012, 03:51:12 AM
Holy DAC, Batman!
http://gizmodo.com/5904270/nuclear-powered-preamp-promises-incre

(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17kh0eyghtpjjjpg/xlarge.jpg)

Quote
Audiophiles are always on the hunt for the most over-the-top setup to impress and make other audiophiles jealous. And there's now a nuclear option in the audiophile arms race with this DAC featuring a built-in rubidium-powered atomic clock promising incredibly accurate and stable digital to analog conversions, and vice versa.

Antelope Audio's upcoming Rubicon Atomic Preamp includes a nuclear clock that's claimed to be "100,000 times more stable than a traditional crystal oscillator." Which promises to improve sound quality when the amp is performing digital to analog and analog to digital conversions by reining in jitter. To be honest, like a lot of audiophile-grade gear it sounds a little gimmicky, but apparently similar atomic master clocks are used in professional mastering studios so there's presumably some validity to the company's claims.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on April 29, 2012, 10:34:25 PM
finally got one earlier:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7069/6978492030_0e2c3135d3_z.jpg)

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: motion55 on May 01, 2012, 06:53:04 AM
Yesterday I bought a Superlux HD661 from Gogadgets sa Gilmore area (between Broadway and Gilmore). They let me audition several Superlux headphones. Sa audition, medyo weak on the bass but the HD661 was overall the most balanced. Besides, I didn't fancy the jumbo siopao shape of the HD668B.

They recommended several Fiio amps to compensate. I tried a couple but I was already set on buying CDRKing's ENMAB. The ENMAB is cute and can be held sa palm. If you turn ON the DSP to enable virtual surround, the sound from the HD661 came alive and it no longer felt weak on the bass.

I tried the HD661 on my HP6730b laptop first directly to the soundcard and then compared it the ENMAB. The built-in Soundmax chipset sounded great but I still liked the surround effect of the ENMAB.

I played a few MP3 rips of old Santana recordings. I can clearly hear imperfections in the old recordings. That's how clear the sound was.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on May 04, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
magkano score mo sa superlux?  cheaper than filtersexchange?

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=94477.0
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nitsuj on May 04, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
I can has diz? http://www.sennheiserusa.com/dynamic-stereo-headphones-high-sound-quality_500319

 :wub:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: motion55 on May 04, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
magkano score mo sa superlux?  cheaper than filtersexchange?

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=94477.0

Same lang. 2300. It is worth it.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on May 04, 2012, 10:32:56 PM
i guess i'd buy at filtersexchange, free delivery kasi doon tapos alam na nila yung bahay ko.  i need an isolated can for tracking,  the specs of the  superlux studio monitors look good.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: motion55 on May 05, 2012, 06:04:23 PM
If you want a little cheaper, it is also sold by Edge by PCHub to TipidPC members at a small discount.

I went to V-Mall sa Greenhills today to look for Edifier Speakers S330 or M2600. While there. I visited the Sennheiser store to audition their headphones. It seems newly opened because I can still smell the rugby drying.

It's hard to audition with all that noise but my guess is the HD661 matches the 3400php-4400php price range of headphones in sound quality. I didn't get the exact model because I wasn't really buying. One thing I like about the Senns is that they are less tight on my ears than the Superlux. So in comfort, they are superior.


Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jomarcon on May 08, 2012, 12:08:01 AM
Got a Sennheiser HD 380 Pro yesterday at Egghead Galleria. I heard it with and without the amp there's a big difference.

So now I'm looking for a bang for the buck amp dac for desktop and travel use (including office). I've read reviews and I'm decided on Fiio E7. Is it any good? If not, can I get some other recommendations on other cost effective alternatives.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 08, 2012, 12:24:00 AM
Why you all buying these sex change filters? :P
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on May 08, 2012, 08:07:29 AM
Why you all buying these sex change filters? :P

nah, i think it's just me XD
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: motion55 on May 09, 2012, 08:13:48 PM
Not exactly audiophile, but I bought myself an Edifier R2700 studio speakers.

(http://comp-acoustics.ru/_pu/0/01625749.png)

It comes with three-way drivers that are separately amplified. Total power output is 16 watts RMS x 2 + 16W x 2 + 32W x 2.

The R2700 has 2 analog inputs and 2 digital (optical+coaxial). Conveniently, it came with one 4ft optical cable so I was able to test it with the CDR-King Encore ENMAB.

Auditioning with several MP3 songs, I'd say it has a balanced tone. Meant to replace my Altec-Lansing 621, it lacked the bass of that old speaker. However bass was not muddy either.

One major con: The two speaker set is interconnected by a thick 6ft cable. This limits how far you can separate the speakers.

Overall, it's worth the 6490 php price. It you want more bass, I'd suggest you get the S530D.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: riceboy on May 12, 2012, 08:10:32 AM
Just placed orders for a FiiO E17, FiiO L9 and Sennheiser HD 598.

Pics kapag dumating na :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on May 17, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
went to egghead, audition headphones w/ my gears (sansa fuse + fiio e5) best match was a superlux 668, but crap no more stocks.  Other popular HP, my gears can't drive them properly (bitin, so to speak).   I'll try ordering online baka may stocks sila.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on May 18, 2012, 10:04:58 AM
mehhhh.... contacted online retailers of superflux 668 puro walang stock :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: riceboy on May 23, 2012, 04:00:52 AM
(http://db.tt/49MkPaJP)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on May 23, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
any one know where i can source a stand-alone Dolby Digital decoder locally?  I'll be using it with the PS3.  I don't like receivers as I already have nice amps (or could make more).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on July 20, 2012, 06:00:55 PM
Got some Polk speakers yesterday to replace my wharfedales:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7608599718_c520a7d30e_z.jpg)

still haven't calibrated yet and still need to get new surrounds.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on July 21, 2012, 08:55:56 PM
anyone know where to get the Muse DT-50a DAC locally? tia...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 24, 2012, 09:28:36 PM
any one know where i can source a stand-alone Dolby Digital decoder locally?  I'll be using it with the PS3.  I don't like receivers as I already have nice amps (or could make more).

if you have a budget for Rotel go get their pre-amps.
or get this one: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=106728466087166&set=a.104061176353895.6809.100002500391220&type=3&theater


anyone know where to get the Muse DT-50a DAC locally? tia...
i don't think DT-50a is a DAC, AFAIK it's a T-amp
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=166772586749420&set=a.104061176353895.6809.100002500391220&type=3&theater
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 20, 2012, 09:35:20 PM
(http://distilleryimage3.instagram.com/f3e7b096eac811e18393123138100c1d_7.jpg)
finally. :D

next step, find a good stand for the floor standers to match my listening position (height)

the upper left and upper right (celestion 9) are not connected, wala lang akong mapaglagyan sa ngayon.
next step ko is to send the Celestion 9 (and sub) to a dedicated stereo set-up.  (evicted pati record player sa old set-up, not seen on the pic, nasa likod ng monitor, hahaha)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 12, 2012, 02:03:50 PM
Korg's audiogate dsd player (http://www.korguser.net/audiogate/en/index.html) is free for download (just feed it a fake twitter account). Free dsd samples are available from blue coast records (http://www.audiogate.bluecoastrecords.com/).

I was a bit skeptical of a pc-based dsd solution, because obviously it still has to go through your sound card and get converted to pcm, and then through whatever cheap dac there is. Turns out having a super high quality source still makes a huge difference, despite having to pass through crappier parts along the audio path.

Im now a dsd convert. Cdjapan has more downloads available... Now to get a good dac.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on December 12, 2012, 08:06:07 PM
any one know where i can source a stand-alone Dolby Digital decoder locally?  I'll be using it with the PS3.  I don't like receivers as I already have nice amps (or could make more).

if you have a budget for Rotel go get their pre-amps.
or get this one: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=106728466087166&set=a.104061176353895.6809.100002500391220&type=3&theater


anyone know where to get the Muse DT-50a DAC locally? tia...
i don't think DT-50a is a DAC, AFAIK it's a T-amp
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=166772586749420&set=a.104061176353895.6809.100002500391220&type=3&theater

yup its a T-Amp, but it has a Burrbrown DAC
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 15, 2012, 06:38:05 PM

WANT! (http://www.korg.co.jp/Product/Audio/DS-DAC-10/)

(http://i.imgur.com/rYsyL.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on December 31, 2012, 01:14:06 AM
comments?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20077392-1/compression-is-killing-your-music/
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on December 31, 2012, 02:17:26 AM
comments?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20077392-1/compression-is-killing-your-music/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20077392-1/compression-is-killing-your-music/)

only matters if you got decent gear.  if you can afford decent gear, you can afford cds.


Quote
Forget high-resolution audio, better-mastered audio might be a nice first step.

pop and rock music are heavily compressed to start with. so if that's what you're listening to mostly,  you'll be okay.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 01, 2013, 02:12:11 AM
^ for souce matters, the PS3 can play DSD.
Guide for teh burning:
http://www.ps3sacd.com/faq.html (http://www.ps3sacd.com/faq.html)

Connect to your amp via PS3's analog-out. The DAC routine done by Kutaragi and co.1 is very good. Decimation is done internally at 64/176.4 or 64/192, and then the output is rounded to 29bits instead of 24 (basically much better than any cheap DAC you can get).

More artists with DSD/DSF downloads:
http://www.davidelias.com/ (http://www.davidelias.com/)
http://www.wheatus.com/download_dsd_frameset.html (http://www.wheatus.com/download_dsd_frameset.html)

Ototoy web store DSD downloads:
http://ototoy.jp/album/index.php/tag/artist_yomi/DSD (http://ototoy.jp/album/index.php/tag/artist_yomi/DSD)

1 "...Honda went to a place for the interview with Ken Kutaragi (sic) . They brought there an even newer version with a decimation filter at 24bit/176.4kHz. Also, the 64-bit DP internal data of the decimation filter is rounded down to 30-29-bit instead of 24-bit for the output. The dynamic range is over 170dB and the theoretical number reaches 180dB in 30-bit. Honda says its sound was really good even when compared with the sound of the 1.1 version firmware. The Sony developer attributes the goodness to the fact that the software SACD codec of the PS3 processes all data in 64-bit double precision."

Read more: DSD from PS3 update - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 31, 2013, 11:04:33 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/486006_10151399427319700_790502613_n.jpg)
upgraded pillars (and speakers, and amps, and cables)

not at Focal BE level, but it should knock the doors of Focal K2Ps/KRX. :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 01, 2013, 12:35:54 AM
My google-fu is not up to par.
Wat tweeter is that?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 01, 2013, 12:48:32 AM
My google-fu is not up to par.
Wat tweeter is that?

Hertz MLK 28, Part of Hertz MLK 165 Mille 2-way set.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: icebuko on February 01, 2013, 09:59:35 AM
Nice! what amp did you pair it with? Running full active ba?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 01, 2013, 10:07:43 AM
Nice! what amp did you pair it with? Running full active ba?

yep running on full active. :)

here's the entire build:

Ride: '00 Kia Pride Spree
HU: Pioneer P99rs
Seps: Hertz MLK 165 (full active)
Sub: Polk MM1040
Amps: Sonus Enigma 1.400 & Sonus Enigma 1.600
Interconnects: 3 sets Sonus RCA
Speaker Cables: Tchernov Jr
Deadening: STP Doors
Installer: Jonz Simplesound

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Kia%20Pride/DSCF0589_zps46cc6ee1.jpg)
Kia Pride

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Kia%20Pride/DSCF0632_zps0ce3566f.jpg)
Cockpit

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Kia%20Pride/DSCF0616_zps40618b34.jpg)
Hertz ML 28 Tweeter on custom pillar

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Kia%20Pride/DSCF0610_zps65ad08c8.jpg)
Hertz ML 165 Midbass on modified door panel

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Kia%20Pride/DSCF0629_zps476e62a5.jpg)
Polk MM1040

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Kia%20Pride/DSCF0631_zpse4b56fb0.jpg)
Sonus Enigma Amplifiers
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 01, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
sometimes i find my computer set-up to sound much more relaxing.

Celestion 9
upgraded S.M.S.I. T-amplifiers (in monoblock configuration, one per speaker)
Xiang Sheng DAC/Pre-amp with Sylvanna 5067 tube and USB connection to computer.

gotta start EQ-ing my car set-up again. hahahah
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 01, 2013, 10:44:30 AM
^ badass lol Mas mahal pa yung audio system sa kotse
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 01, 2013, 10:52:42 AM
^ badass lol Mas mahal pa yung audio system sa kotse

HAHAHAH! magulo talaga environment sa kotse. hahaha!
pero ang galing, kasi kahit wala ka sa gitna ng kotse, nasa harap mo pa rin yung kumakanta. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: icebuko on February 01, 2013, 02:25:49 PM
Nice setup! KAC sticker yung nasa quarter panel?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 01, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
pero ang galing, kasi kahit wala ka sa gitna ng kotse, nasa harap mo pa rin yung kumakanta. :)

Pano pag nasa passenger side ka?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 01, 2013, 09:47:29 PM
pero ang galing, kasi kahit wala ka sa gitna ng kotse, nasa harap mo pa rin yung kumakanta. :)

Pano pag nasa passenger side ka?

hahaha! pang selfish yung time alignment, so dun lang sa position na yun. pero may tatlong positions for the time alignment:  Left, Right, Left + Right. kapag left+right parang nasa gitna ng kotse nanggagaling yung tunog.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 03, 2013, 12:36:33 PM
From the "old news" (but still news to me) dept:

Older iPods sound better!

So I was wondering why people wanted to get DACs for their iPods, when I though that it already sounded quite good. Now it turns out the older iPods actually have nice Wolfson DACs. While newer ones switched over to cheaper Cirrus stuff.
http://www.teddypig.com/2012/03/apple-ipod-wolfson-dac-why-all-ipods-are-not-equal/ (http://www.teddypig.com/2012/03/apple-ipod-wolfson-dac-why-all-ipods-are-not-equal/)

I guess not upgrading mindlessly does have its benefits.

Update: 5.5G (the iPod Video) is supposedly the best sounding. Coincidentally, this is what I have.  :silly:
http://macintoshhowto.com/itunes/which-ipod-has-the-best-audio-quality.html (http://macintoshhowto.com/itunes/which-ipod-has-the-best-audio-quality.html)

RMAA results for iPod Video:
http://yuriv.home.gate.net/RMAATests/iPod%20vs%20dock.htm (http://yuriv.home.gate.net/RMAATests/iPod%20vs%20dock.htm)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: NVIDIOT on February 04, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Take it further: iPod 5.5G + iMod + Rockbox

Simply one of the best mobile source you can ever have.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 04, 2013, 10:36:15 AM
For the price of the iMod though, i'd rather get a Korg MR2.
Portable DSD playback, support for SDHC external storage, and standard AA batteries. Does recording pa!

Ano advantage ng rockbox over the official firmware? I noticed the iMod people don't seem to like it.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 04, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
i think rockbox gives the iPod flac compatibility.
i'd get stick with the apple os for ease of use.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 05, 2013, 01:53:36 AM
Converting to ALAC is super easy
download ffmpeg, then
from the command line:

for %a in (*.flac) do ffmpeg -i "%a" -acodec alac "%~na.m4a"

= a full directory of FLACs converted to ALACs.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on February 05, 2013, 06:24:28 AM
For the price of the iMod though, i'd rather get a Korg MR2.
Portable DSD playback, support for SDHC external storage, and standard AA batteries. Does recording pa!

Ano advantage ng rockbox over the official firmware? I noticed the iMod people don't seem to like it.

Tried the Rockbox mod years ago. Bumagal yung iPod, both in actual and perceived use (nasanay na siguro ako sa tag-based searches rather than file-based searches). The battery usage also took a hit. Went back to Apple firmware after a few days. Maybe now its better.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on February 18, 2013, 02:32:34 PM
Ano advantage ng rockbox over the official firmware? I noticed the iMod people don't seem to like it.

FLAC support, gapless playback and parametric EQ, among other things. It gives you a more advanced menu but of couse it takes out the intuitiveness of the stock iPod FW. They've refined it over the years, most improvements focusing on the battery life and the responsiveness of the software.

As for the iMod, it's a pretty cheap and nifty upgrade (as opposed to buying a new DAP) if you still have a 5.5G iPod (I think this was the last model that sported the Wolfson chips for the DAC). First noticeable improvements I picked up were the soundstage and the layering. Better mids, too. IIRC the soundstage was bigger than iriver's flagship, the AK100. I have yet to do a side-by-side with an iPod > Algorhythm Solo.

Downside of the iMod is that you won't be able to plug in any external DAC to your iPod via LOD anymore. I believe either the mod itself or the custom cables will pretty much destroy whatever DAC you plug in.

(mentioned the AK100 because like the iMod and Red Wine Audio, it's being pushed by ALO Audio)


(also I've forgotten all about PPC's audiophile thread lol)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 18, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
but the standard firmware already covers most of those bases.
FLAC can be converted to ALAC
gapless is available, you just need to go into itunes, select the files and specify that they are part of a gapless album
and you lose video support

the EQ is probably one area where rockbox gives an advantage, but i prefer to keep it flat anyway

i might do the iMod thing...
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on February 18, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
but the standard firmware already covers most of those bases.
FLAC can be converted to ALAC
gapless is available, you just need to go into itunes, select the files and specify that they are part of a gapless album
and you lose video support

Very true :) Though there are those who prefer the ease of drag-and-drop vs iTunes when it comes to organizing music on their DAPs.

Quote
i might do the iMod thing...

Let us know when you do! iHave a couple of amps you can play around with :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on April 07, 2013, 07:08:09 PM

Was able to get a loaner unit of FitEar's flagship IEM yesterday, the ToGo! 334, so I decided to take a coupla pics along with my other portable gear. Pics of desktop stuff to follow a.k.a pag sinipag :lol:


The complete package - monitors, pouch, tips, cleaning brush and monitor vault!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/aikanarociryatan/Audio/IMG_1956_zps52edc48d.jpg)



Check out the size of those monitors.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/aikanarociryatan/Audio/IMG_1964_zpsb6cfcf53.jpg)


Shure SE535, FitEar ToGo! 334, Sennheiser IE8
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/aikanarociryatan/Audio/de59df7d-91b9-4021-b669-342c2370b43a_zps75965b0c.jpg)


iriver Astell & Kern AK100 (DAP) > Ortofon MHd-Q7 (amp) > Sennheiser IE8
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/aikanarociryatan/Audio/IMG_1998_zps12a405cc.jpg)


iPod > Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo (DAC) > ALO Audio Rx MK3-B (amp)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/aikanarociryatan/Audio/IMG_1991_zpscbbb2c3b.jpg)


Amps! (and a DAC)
ALO Audio Rx MK3-B, Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo
Ortofon MHd-Q7
HeadAmp Pico, HeadAmp Pico Slim
ALO Audio The National
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/aikanarociryatan/Audio/IMG_2005_zps226350b9.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on April 07, 2013, 11:41:14 PM
^ hehehe dami nyan ah
anong maganda sa mga yan para sa iyo?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on April 08, 2013, 10:29:36 AM
^ hehehe dami nyan ah
anong maganda sa mga yan para sa iyo?

Sa amps ba? Hehe. Paborito ko yung National. Masarap siyang kapares ng mga IEM. Warm yung tunog. Built to last, sarap ng feel physically, at best friend ng commuters (10-14 hours playback time!)

Yung Rx MK3-B naman, all about the power. Kaya neto mag-drive ng 300 ohm open back headphones (3 gain settings, low/mid/high). Yung Algorhythm Solo na iDevice DAC, made to pair with this amp, so maganda pairing nila pag ginamit with an iDevice.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 08, 2013, 02:58:46 PM
@Gelo, hindi mo favorite yung Pico slim? last price! :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on April 08, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
thanks for the info
what about the ibasso D12?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 08, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
Ooh! Ortofon and ALO
Palit palit amp ba depende sa sonic signature ng headphones at music? Hardcore!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on April 09, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
@Gelo, hindi mo favorite yung Pico slim? last price! :lol:

Actually Heishi up for grabs yang Pico and Pico slim ko hehe. Kung seryoso ka pwede natin pagusapan price!

[/quote]
thanks for the info
what about the ibasso D12?

Sorry dude wala ako firsthand exp sa D12 eh but I do know it has an optical in which is good for DAPs without "true" line-out

Ooh! Ortofon and ALO
Palit palit amp ba depende sa sonic signature ng headphones at music? Hardcore!

Minsan hehe, masarap yang Ortofon sa classical at jazz. Okay siya kapares ng mga sensitive IEMs like yung Senn IE 800 (super sensitive and sibilant for me, but YMMV). Pero ang ginagamit ko eh depende talaga sa kung may dala akong bag palabas ng bahay o wala, hehehe.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 27, 2013, 03:24:23 AM
Went to listen to a good reference system, now everything I have feels woefully inadequate.
Argh.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on April 28, 2013, 08:13:03 PM
System specs? Spill plz!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 29, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
My specs:
NAD C316BEE integrated amp
Polk Audio TSI300s
PC source through Musiland 01 US 2012 DAC (32bit 384khz via USB 2.0)

Reference system:
Rotel RC1580 pre-amp (not sure if this was the exact model, but it was definitely a Rotel)
VTL ST-150 tube amp
GoldenEar Triton 2s
Marantz CD6004 source

Listened to:
Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix (Best of Jimi Hendrix CD)
Hotel California - Eagles (Hell Freezes over CD)
Turn it Well - Up Dharma Down (Capacities CD)
Angel - Massive Attack (Mezzanine CD)

Percussion on Hotel California and Turn it Well was night and day between my home setup and the reference system, and I have no idea if it's down to the source, the amp or the speakers lol. Technically my source should be better, and I tend to use high resolution FLACs at home as well so it's probably one, or all of the other components.

Everything was very sharp and dynamic on the reference, and coming back home it felt like the drummer had become particularly lazy, perhaps having taken some sedatives instead of caffeine. Highs were also much clearer on the Tritons, details again sharper on hi hats and strings, particularly when listening to Hendrix.

The Massive Attack CD I brought along to see what the integrated subs were made of, and they were every bit as impressive as the stereophile review said they would be. Especially toward the end of Angel the bass was persistently strong all the way down to the lowest octaves.

Then again we're basically comparing a 30-40k systems against a 500k system lol. I'm hoping to get at least the speakers portion down, but my budget is a little short of the Triton 2s. I actually went there to try out its smaller brother, the Triton 3 which is inside of my price range, but when I got to the showroom they had a blown fuse and couldn't be listened to. Planning to come back next weekend, hopefully the 3 isn't too far different from the 2.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on April 29, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
Was this at a friend's place or is there a shop with this setup? Damn. The only time I've heard of Rotel was when a friend visited the Akihabara district in Japan.


The pre-amp and amp look like they make for a killer combo, the kind that reveals everything and will not forgive low quality tracks. I'm surprised though that you noticed clear and sharp highs considering the amp had warm tubes (gotta love 'em)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 29, 2013, 03:38:31 PM
^ It was at a shop, I was auditioning the Tritons.
The high's could've been down to better tweeters (HVFR) on the Tritons.

Stereophile's review of the Speakers:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/goldenear-technology-triton-two-loudspeaker

KOG Audio review of the amp (combined with matching VTL pre-amp):
http://www.kogaudio.com/pdf/hfnjuly12.pdf
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 29, 2013, 04:42:30 PM
Wow. That's why I try to avoid auditioning high end systems....so I can just be happy with what I have.

Ignorance is bliss. lol
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 29, 2013, 05:28:02 PM
^ This. lol

And the worst part is of course you bring along the songs you like best... Then the comparison with the high-end system ruins those songs for you when you get back home.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on May 07, 2013, 12:46:36 PM
Wow. That's why I try to avoid auditioning high end systems....so I can just be happy with what I have.

Ignorance is bliss. lol

So true! I guess it works for me that I have a small place. I have no space (nor budget lol) for full-blown home hi-fi systems.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on May 19, 2013, 02:06:05 AM
Letting go of some stuff guys, lemme know if anyone's interested. Prices are very negotiable :) click me! (http://forum.pinoypc.net/index.php?topic=56586.0)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 16, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
got my new version of Hippo VB :happy:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img833/7114/7vz7.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img801/3420/nrzw.jpg)

nasira na yung cable ng luma, still 100% working pa din naman ipaparepair ko nalang pag may time sa vacation
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on July 23, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
^how do you repair yung ganyang putol?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 23, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
^ipapa recable nalang siguro
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 23, 2013, 09:20:03 PM
^ if you wanna DIY you'll probably have to disassamble the earpiece itself to get at the connection to the driver. After that it's just a matter of replacing the cables.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnk2ZDhoAhU[/youtube]
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 25, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Was this at a friend's place or is there a shop with this setup? Damn. The only time I've heard of Rotel was when a friend visited the Akihabara district in Japan.


The pre-amp and amp look like they make for a killer combo, the kind that reveals everything and will not forgive low quality tracks. I'm surprised though that you noticed clear and sharp highs considering the amp had warm tubes (gotta love 'em)

try visiting Listening in Style Shang, iyak ka kahit yung NAD-Dyns combo 'lang'
yung ROTEL-VTL-GoldenEars combo i think sa Grey Market (White Plains, same building ng Crave burger yata), masaya din dun.

here's my budget in-ears for my iPhone/iPod
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1541_10151721084989700_2042473384_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970246_10151721084854700_1801991444_n.jpg)
SoundMAGIC E10M

para di kailangan ng amp kapag naglalakad.
di na nagagamit yung Fiio e11 + superlux/goldring ko dahil dito. nadonate na rin px100 ko. hahahaha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: surgeon general on December 15, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
Upgraded my Home theater. 


Onkyo TX-NR727 (http://us.onkyo.com/Products/model.php?m=TX-NR727&class=Receiver&source=prodClass)


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/DSC00411_zpsbc949e30.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/tochiendy/media/DSC00411_zpsbc949e30.jpg.html)


On the Background is my Panasonic Plasma Viera 60 inch  ST 60


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/DSC00413_zps4be0102a.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/tochiendy/media/DSC00413_zps4be0102a.jpg.html)


7 HDMI connections. 


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/DSC00415_zps252c1c94.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/tochiendy/media/DSC00415_zps252c1c94.jpg.html)


Also bought Disney Calibration Disk for the Video.  The Audio calibration is done by Onkyo Audyssey.   Upgraded my cables too. 


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/tochiendy/DSC00418_zps8ec620e8.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/tochiendy/media/DSC00418_zps8ec620e8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on December 17, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
Portable amps and DACs part 2


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/1471820_10201216630642918_1805932054_n.jpg)


Current portable setup


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/944829_668432709868315_324916218_n.jpg)


(both shots courtesy of a friend :) )
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on December 17, 2013, 07:23:23 PM
Anyone here heard of Monoprice 9927 earbuds? They say its the best bang for the buck earbuds. Got me curious so I bought one. Its surprisingly good, considering its USD 7.00 price. One of the tech sites even listed it as one of the best earbuds (other choices in the list were around 10-20x its price)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on December 18, 2013, 10:45:18 AM
^is that only available in us?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on December 18, 2013, 12:13:13 PM
lol hungree, umorder narin ako from that TPC guy. sana meron pang stocks this weekend
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on December 18, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
haha oo nga noh! hindi ko napansin. Saan po location niyo sir? Baka pwede makisabay?  ;)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on December 18, 2013, 02:57:40 PM
valenzuela ako sir, planning to meet him sunday morning
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on December 18, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
I see. Malayo pala. Papabili sana ako tapos bank depo nalang hehe Sayang :'(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on December 18, 2013, 04:29:41 PM
Oooooh, didn't know someone sells 'em sa kabila. People usually organize a Monoprice group buy for those gems :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on December 18, 2013, 06:37:54 PM
hopefully egghead grabs some of these badboys soon. medyo naumay ako sa build quality ng Superlux 381Fs, lagi nalang ako napuputulan ng cable, despite sounding like a total dream.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Gelo on December 20, 2013, 12:24:37 PM
We can always tell Rico hehe


And yeah the cable of the flat 381's make me sad. I want to have it recabled but it'll end up costing more than the unit itself
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on December 22, 2013, 05:42:49 PM
im planning to have my 381s recabled, still would end up better than the competition pricewise even after the mod.

so I got myself the Microprice, midrange slightly brighter than the 381s (tiring), but the bass is a tad deeper, bass drums punchier. I would say trounces the 381 easily, especially for the price.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 01, 2014, 07:45:24 PM
Love my TF 10 :wub: awesome detail, great bass! :silly:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/4_zps401e192f.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: jepoi on July 02, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
Any recommendation for a DAC?  Want to connect my TV to a speaker na RCA/Stereo Ins lang meron eh.  TV has an Optical Out.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 11, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
bago kong kinababaliwan.  undecided kung mag-uupgrade or tigil na dito. hahaha

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/35CB9E06-142B-4273-8808-01E1315528C6_zpsfuxxekpy.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on July 11, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
akin na lang yung car, tuloy mo pa yung sounds mweheheh
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 12, 2014, 08:40:53 AM
@dean
HAHAHAH!
nope. :P

dyan na karamihan yung 'audiophile' gears na binili ko.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 13, 2014, 09:30:18 PM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/a2_zps5d6472f1.jpg)

More than 1 hour akong nag audition and compare HD-600 vs HD-650
masyadong ma-bass yung 650, kinda natatabunan yung highs at detail.
when i listen to Celine Dion album nakapag decide nako agad na HD-600
ang dapat bilihin :wub: sarap pakingan ng detail, ganda ng instrument
separation, lupit din ng sound stage, bass impact is superb! So far very
satisfied with my current udac to edge amp set up. tapos na pagbili ng audio gears! :silly:








hmm.. a tube amp? :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 14, 2014, 12:11:58 AM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/a2_zps5d6472f1.jpg)

More than 1 hour akong nag audition and compare HD-600 vs HD-650
masyadong ma-bass yung 650, kinda natatabunan yung highs at detail.
when i listen to Celine Dion album nakapag decide nako agad na HD-600
ang dapat bilihin :wub: sarap pakingan ng detail, ganda ng instrument
separation, lupit din ng sound stage, bass impact is superb! So far very
satisfied with my current udac to edge amp set up. tapos na pagbili ng audio gears! :silly:








hmm.. a tube amp? :lol:

Tapos silver interconnects and cables. 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 14, 2014, 09:00:13 AM
Tapos silver interconnects and cables. 

Im not sure about those silver cable things :D feeling ko placebo effect lang.
But i do consider the HD-650 cable, mas mataba sya (feeling better lang)
may nag compare na din sa Head-fi at youtube wala naman daw sound diff. yung
HD-600 cable at HD-650 cable. saka ang mahal ng accessories dito yung replacement
earpads ng HD-600 nasa $75 :( halos double sa online price..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 15, 2014, 12:25:23 AM
Tapos silver interconnects and cables. 

Im not sure about those silver cable things ;D feeling ko placebo effect lang.
But i do consider the HD-650 cable, mas mataba sya (feeling better lang)
may nag compare na din sa Head-fi at youtube wala naman daw sound diff. yung
HD-600 cable at HD-650 cable. saka ang mahal ng accessories dito yung replacement
earpads ng HD-600 nasa $75 :( halos double sa online price..


if bibili ka ng cables, might as well go for aftermarket, kung ganun din presyo, para maiba na rin tunog, KUNG may pagbabago nga ng tunog.

from experience, i'd go with good drivers (yung HD600 mo ok na yan) and a really good powerful amp.  nung una para sa akin hindi naman kailangan ng power, pero eventually napansin ko na the higher the headroom the better, this will help sa dynamics and handling ng amplifier.  lower power = earlier clipping, and once nag-clip, dun mo maririnig ang distortion. 

sa cables naman, home and car audio, mas important ang gauge ng cable compared sa material used. i guess this also applies to head-fi. i guess materials used can change the character of the sound, specially for the ones with golden ears, but double blind tests will prove otherwise.  kung saan ka masaya dun ka na. :)
 



i tried Van Den Hul Hybrids, but eventually i went back to Stinger Pro Gauge 12x2  just because I have a lot lying around and i can customize the length of the cable.  1m of that Van Den Hul = 10m of Stinger cable. LOL
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 15, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
for DAPs what's the Bang for the Buck?
are the FIIOs good enough?
iBasso?
AK are expensive, but are they sulit?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 15, 2014, 12:08:09 PM
^
Yup kung aabot ng $100 yung replacement from Senn maghahanap nalang ako ng silver cables dito..
about sa DAP, kinda mahirap makapili sa ngayun, according to what i read lang ito ang mga issue :
iBasso DX90 : Battery Life: 8.5 hours
iBasso DX50 : Battery Life: 14 hours (better)
kung magbabasa ka sa mga review kinda buggy pa yung firmware nila, pero may mga update na din
naman na lumabas, parang 50/50 pa din naman yung mga issues.. Hit or Miss ka talaga dito.

Fiio X5 : mukang maganda naman yung features, pero nasasagwaan ako sa itsura nya lalo na yung malaking
wheel sa gitna, 12-15hrs naman ang playtime sa bagong firmware.

yung iba namang brand sobrang mahal, parang OA na.. you really need to read and research alot pagdating
sa mga Daps, makikita mo din yung mga reviews nila sa youtube, for me stick pa din ako sa Sony players.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 15, 2014, 02:44:24 PM
AFAIK for interconnects the choice material is gold, not because of conductivity but because of malleability. Since gold is soft it will deform a bit to better fit the contour of your plug/socket, giving better contact over more conductive, but harder metals like silver or copper.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on July 15, 2014, 03:39:10 PM
Actually gold is preferred not because of malleability but because of its resistance to oxidation/corrosion. This ensures that the contacts won't degrade over time due to oxidation.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on July 15, 2014, 05:29:55 PM
^ yep. that's what I noticed.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 15, 2014, 07:12:03 PM
Yeah that too! Gold is awesome
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 16, 2014, 02:21:47 PM
more than 50 hours ng naka burn in itong HD-600 ko, so far malaki na improvement ng bass.
im just wondering.. 300 ohms sya sa spec pero 80% lang ng volume sa netbook buong buo na din yung tunog.
sabi nga din sa mga reviews kahit straight to laptop or iphone/dap gumagana naman
thou hindi ganun ka clear yung details kumpara sa kanta na dumaan sa Dac.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 21, 2014, 05:36:54 PM
Waiting for Pono
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 11, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Nice vid! weeee!!!! keeping my flacs pero stick lang sa 16 bit! yeabah!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLEhfieoMq8&list=PLDp6fyvziq0iejJOSHJRA1OcxLgtw3zgX
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 12, 2014, 12:58:46 AM
^ Ahh but 24-bit audio prevents sampling artifacts like the Gibbs Phenomenon ringing. This stuff is real, and is consistently measured by test equipment, meaning it could possibly be audible to people with golden ears (and high-end equipment). In audio the Gibbs Phenomenon will manifest as an echo near transients, particularly with percussion instruments.

This is a 16-bit sinewave sweep from Stereophile's review of the ASUS Xonar Essence STX:
(http://i.imgur.com/NvwB0d1.jpg)

And the measurements for a 24-bit sinewave sweep from the same sound card:
(http://i.imgur.com/5dLEbzi.jpg)

If the DAC actually converts 16-bit audio into a smooth wave, as presumed by the video above, then a sine wave played back at 16-bits should be identical to a 24-bit sine wave, but it clearly isn't. This reduction in artifacting is the same reason encoding video at higher bit depths, i.e. 10-bpp H264 yields visible improvements over 8bpp/24-bit H264, even when there are already 16.7 million colors in the 8bpp encoded video.

The other reason for doing high-res audio was already mentioned, but is increasingly applicable to consumer playback and not just production. Each step in the audio chain is increasingly digital, and the dynamic range is reduced with each step. For instance, each -6dB step done via digital volume control (such as in Windows) effectively reduces the bit depth by 1. So at 50% volume the effective resolution of the audio is now 15bit, and at 25% volume you are at 14bits. If you attenuate volume in your player by -10dB (typical "loudness war" album gain via replaygain), and by another -6dB at the windows audio mixer, then the degradation of bit depth is compounded and your 16-bit file may be playing at 14, or 13-bit resolution.

My take on this is:
1) Disk space is cheap.

2) All modern DACs in use now operate at 24, even 32-bit resolution anyways. There is absolutely no reason not to use the full potential of equipment that ALREADY EXISTS in our computers and players just because of some outdated "16-bit is good enough" sentimentality.

3) The video you linked is attacking the WRONG side of high-res audio, because the bit depth does matter and does lead to improvements. Yes you can get 120dB from 16-bits, but you also introduce dither noise. Remember running 15 or 16-bit color on Windows 98 and getting dots all over the screen from the dither pattern? Dithered 16-bit audio is the same way. 120dB dynamic range is achieved by sacrificing detail, because there is only so much information that can be encoded in 16 bits. Going by Nyquist's sampling theory, the part of high res audio that we can safely cull (on the assumption that the audible 20Hz-20KHz range represents perfect reproduction) is the unnecessarily high sample rate.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dulber on August 12, 2014, 10:10:39 PM
^ Now I know why the term audiophiles
I like the part where there is equipment that ALREADY EXISTS in our computers
I'm concerned to think about what I still need for input and output
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 13, 2014, 02:20:35 AM
ito na lang para tapos na upgrade itch
http://chordelectronics.co.uk/products-info.asp?id=92
http://www.whathifi.com/chord-electronics/hugo/review
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 14, 2014, 04:00:11 PM
^ you are not serious, right?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 14, 2014, 08:33:34 PM
ito na lang para tapos na upgrade itch
http://chordelectronics.co.uk/products-info.asp?id=92
http://www.whathifi.com/chord-electronics/hugo/review

I'd love to have a chord dac, but their stuff is way out of my price range.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 17, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
Laptop > Flac > NuForce Icon Dac > Senn HD 600

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/DAC_zpsf0fe47fc.jpg)

Done for this year! ;D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on August 17, 2014, 06:01:29 PM

Done for this year! ;D
2015 is 5 months away. >:D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 17, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
2015 is 5 months away. >:D

A better amp on my birthday! :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 18, 2014, 12:24:33 AM
^ HD600 ftw. Also auditioned these along with the HD650, imo the 600 is better.  I haven't had the chance to try the HD700s yet, but my guess is one will need to reach all the way to the HD800 to significantly better the 600.

In my case it's just a bit hard to justify spending so much on cans because my preferred listening setup is 2 channel with speakers. Cost of the HD600s will already be a significant contribution to the speaker piggy bank.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 18, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
^ true, the 600 has better sound quality in term of balance and clarity (IMO).
problema sa 650 over ang bass nya, for my ears muddy na yung tunog.
another this is the highs parang tunog lata, toinks! walang spark hindi ko ma-enjoy yung palo ng cymbals lalo na
sa mga kanta ng Megadeth, Metallica at Guns n Roses. female vocals specially celine dion angat din si HD 600.
$10 usd lang ang diff sa price ng HD 600 at HD 650 dito, nung una parang mas gusto ko yung 650 tapos inisip ko
din yung price sobrang liit lang para mag 650 na, pero pag pinakingan mo side by side iba talaga tunog nila.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 19, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
Top of the line headphones.

http://headfonics.com/2014/08/12-flagship-headphones-compared-the-totl-guide/

Personally though, i like listening to stereo 2.0 or 2.1 system over headphones. But that's because I don't have top of the line headphones, all i have are Soundmagic e10m, Superlux HD330/660 and Goldring DR100&150 powered by e11&iPod classic or pc -digital/optical out - XiangSheng Dac01.  I did however able to try Senn HD800, new Focal Headphones, grado (forgot exact model but that one that costs 8k, 15k and 25k), and audeze lcd-x and lcd-2, and AKG Q701/K701.

I enjoy the AKG and Beyerdynamic T1 and DT880 the most, for critical listening Beyerdynamic and Senn 800 wins, audeze lcd for tonal accuracy. I don't like the focals and the grados.

For my music listening, i can listen to my Celestion 9 for hours without problem, powered by B&O Ice power amp 125sx2 i think.  Slightly EQ'ed to cut some peaking.  Back when it was connected to my DAC it's all flat, but to simplify the audio chain, i just used the soundcard out.  External DAC sounds better though.

For louder music listening and movies, I ended up with Harman Kardon -Elan Amp - B&W, and pilyo sub (hehehe)

Car Audio, im still torn between 2-way full active or 3-way set-up. Hahaha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 19, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
^ IMO even if I had top-end cans I'd still prefer 2.0 stereo. Soundstaging and bass impact are probably the two biggest things headphones can't deliver.

Headphones can do "imaging" to an extent, with instruments and performers localized at certain points but the sound still comes from somewhere inside the listener's head and doesn't really come close to the staging offered by a good stereo setup.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 20, 2014, 12:25:31 AM
^ IMO even if I had top-end cans I'd still prefer 2.0 stereo. Soundstaging and bass impact are probably the two biggest things headphones can't deliver.

Headphones can do "imaging" to an extent, with instruments and performers localized at certain points but the sound still comes from somewhere inside the listener's head and doesn't really come close to the staging offered by a good stereo setup.

same here.  It's home 2.0/2.1 set-up then car audio (with the proper tuning) and then headphones.

the thing with headphones is that you get that weird feeling that someone is singing inside your head instead of infront of you.  good thing with headphones is that your neighbors or other family members won't knock on your door even at ear damaging levels, plus it's cheaper in a sense that you don't need to spend much on room treatments etc.  you also get a really good tonality.  soundstage and depth forget it. imaging to a certain extent. 

car audio naman, unless you sped on a processor and go full-active for time allignment and other treatments, then you'll probably end up with a shitty sound, or maybve good tonal but forget the rest.  but for me this is where you should spend, as you spend a lot of hours driving (specially now, with all the traffic problems in the metro).  well at least that's my excuse to justify my car audio installations and have the budget approved. ;)  but it's gonna be an expensive journey.  i can spend 20k for home stereo and 60-80k for car audio, and the car audio won't be able to go near the sound quality of the 20k home stereo.  you're just dealing with too much unnecessary vibration and noise. but im pretty happy with what i have right now. :)

2.0 or maybe 2.1 for really serious music listening. have the right treatment, equipment matching and really good source and you're good to go. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 20, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
I also do prefer a good 2.1 system lalo na pag nasa kwarto lang.. then IEMs pag nasa labas.
kaso mahirap sa buhay ofw mabigat pag kaylangan ng iuwi.. a good sounding full size L/R speaker might weight
as much as 3-4 kilos each, tapos mga 5-7 kilos sa sub-woofer, reciver/amp pa 2-4 kilos.. ubos ang pera sa over baggage :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 20, 2014, 09:51:33 PM
I also do prefer a good 2.1 system lalo na pag nasa kwarto lang.. then IEMs pag nasa labas.
kaso mahirap sa buhay ofw mabigat pag kaylangan ng iuwi.. a good sounding full size L/R speaker might weight
as much as 3-4 kilos each, tapos mga 5-7 kilos sa sub-woofer, reciver/amp pa 2-4 kilos.. ubos ang pera sa over baggage :D


That actually makes sense. :)


You can try getting t-amps and not so expensive speakers para di mabigat sa bulsa.  May DAC ka na rin naman
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 20, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
^ naisip ko nga before yung Edifier R1600 TIII, around 170 usd..
(http://www.loa.com.vn/image/speaker/edifier/Loa_Edifier_R1600TIII/Loa_Edifier_R1600TIII.jpg)
my original plan is the Hifiman HE-500 kaso grabe naman yung bigat half kilo!!! :silly: :P
then minsan napunta ako sa Sennheiser shop try lang yung HD 600.. aba! ibang level! :wub:
then the next sunday binili ko na agad!

btw ang daming models ng Edifier dito : http://www.loa.com.vn/Loa%20Edifier%20.html
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on August 21, 2014, 08:24:01 AM
I also do prefer a good 2.1 system lalo na pag nasa kwarto lang.. then IEMs pag nasa labas.
kaso mahirap sa buhay ofw mabigat pag kaylangan ng iuwi.. a good sounding full size L/R speaker might weight
as much as 3-4 kilos each, tapos mga 5-7 kilos sa sub-woofer, reciver/amp pa 2-4 kilos.. ubos ang pera sa over baggage :D


Door to door lang katapat niyan.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Batusai on August 22, 2014, 03:16:05 PM
Pasingit mga sir. San makakabili ng magandang banana plugs? Yung mga nasa ace and handyman hindi maganda tapos kailangan ko pa maghinang. Salamat.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 22, 2014, 03:46:39 PM
^ siguro sa mga mall yung tindahan ng audio equipments, as i remember sa Rob Pioneer meron sa taas madami silang speakers.
sa Market-market meron din 3rd floor ata yun, then sa megamall Listening room. for a good quality audio cables maghanda
ka ng malaki, baka atakihin ka sa puso ;D hihi :lol:

just to give you an idea : http://loa.com.vn/NuforceAudioCable.html

(http://loa.com.vn/image/NuForce/NuforceFocusedField_SC-700B_SpeakerCable/NuforceFocusedField_SC-700B_S.jpg)


Speaker Cable SC-700B-1 (1m)  with 2 - leg pants,boots and bananas. = 4.179.999VNĐ that's 200 usd :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Batusai on August 22, 2014, 04:20:17 PM
banana plugs lang boss heishi..pero sige try ko sa mga audio stores. hehehe!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 22, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Back to the 16/44.1 vs high resolution topic:

Q&A with Phillip's Chief Engineer on DSD, Red Book Audio (16/44.1 PCM), mastering and other stuff:
http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment-forums/other-equipment-reviews/dsd-vs-pcm-head-engineer-phillips-179930/ (http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment-forums/other-equipment-reviews/dsd-vs-pcm-head-engineer-phillips-179930/)

Some points:
1) He does not dispute the "airiness" that people attribute to DSD, and actually says it can be achieved by high-resolution PCM.
2) 64fs (standard) DSD is bad for mastering, but is excellent as a distribution medium. This is because processing DSD requires passing the stream through the decimation filter again. This re-processing is what causes signal degradation. DSD-wide (128fs and up) is of a sufficiently high resolution though, for mastering.
3) 16/44.1 has a serious problem with aliasing in the 20-24.1KHz zone which makes it unsuitable for archiving or processing. Sampling at 192KHz provides sufficiently high bandwidth.
4) Very high resolution PCM 32bit-/384KHz (now commonly referred to as DXD) offers all the advantages of PCM for mastering, and can be converted cleanly to DSD for distribution.
5) Majority of digital PCM audio implementations do not even implement Nyquist exactly the way the theory describes it.

IMO:
The the vid Heishi posted that says 16/44.1 is sufficient, and the xiph.org article it cites as its source are flawed in making the assumption that only the audible 20Hz-20KHz range matters. The beef here is not with Nyquist's sampling theorem, but with the assumption that only the audible range matters when re-creating audio.

Just as LFE has shown that sub-audible bass makes an impact, re-creating energy that can be felt, if not heard, then the super-audible range beyond 20KHz also adds an energy that can be perceived, even if not heard. I believe this is what people mean when they refer to the "airiness" of a DSD recording. Traditional 16/44 PCM cannot reproduce this energy, because implementations typically introduce very steep rolloff filters in order to avoid the aliasing artifacts at 20-24.1KHz introduced by Nyquist sampling.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on August 22, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
banana plugs lang boss heishi..pero sige try ko sa mga audio stores. hehehe!

Head on over to the accessories section of PinoyDVD's marketplace. There are several people there selling high quality banana plugs that are cheaper than audio stores.

I got my banana plugs as well a banana jack speaker wall plates from one of the sellers there when I did my home renovation last year.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Batusai on August 22, 2014, 07:55:59 PM
banana plugs lang boss heishi..pero sige try ko sa mga audio stores. hehehe!

Head on over to the accessories section of PinoyDVD's marketplace. There are several people there selling high quality banana plugs that are cheaper than audio stores.

I got my banana plugs as well a banana jack speaker wall plates from one of the sellers there when I did my home renovation last year.

Ayun! Thanks boss uvax! Nag try kasi ako dti mag search sa pdvd, sira naman ata search function nila. Thanks ulit.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on August 22, 2014, 08:41:53 PM
It' easy to get caught up in the debate on 16-bit vs 24-bit. What many users lose sight of is that any audio setup is only as good as the weakest link in the setup. The weak links are usually the speakers followed by the amp. Not surprisingly these two are usually the most expensive components of an audio setup. In the end it is similar to setting up a pc rig. If you want to get the best bang for your buck it is all about balance. Sure you can for high resolution DACs but if the other components of your setup is not up to it then you'd be better off spending your money somewhere else.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 22, 2014, 11:51:50 PM
^ Yup, and the response range is one reason why headphones are sort of the cheaper way to take advantage of high resolution audio.

The Sennheiser HD600s have an awesome frequency response of 12Hz-39KHz, more than enough to make very good use of SACD, or DSD/24/96 downloads from HDtracks. For speakers you'll usually have to go pretty far up the money tree to find something with similar response.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 23, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
16 bit vs 24 bit audio is an epic ear battle, it's like "my ears is better than yours".
Some people hear the difference some people don't. I think it depends if your gears can produce those super micro details
that 24 bit audio have. From a good source to a very good Dac to a very good Amp to the best Headphones out there.
And dont forget to upgrade your USB cables and headphone cables..

With my entry level setup, Labtop > Icon Dac > HD 600 most of the time i cannot hear the difference between
320 bit Mp3 vs 16/44 flacs, i can only hear the difference when they are poorly converted.. I had some 16/44
files that sounds very terrible compared to 320 bit mp3 and i just delete them and get a better copy ;D thanks TPB!

Im planning to buy an upgrade Usb cable this sunday, i like the NuForce Impulse USB Cable (0.5 M).
pls note that im not expecting any change of sounds, i just dont like the free usb cable, they look very ugly and very long.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on August 23, 2014, 11:24:05 PM
pls note that im not expecting any change of sounds, i just dont like the free usb cable, they look very ugly and very long.

Now that's a valid reason!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 24, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
^ hehe

Agree on the "depends on the ears part." I remember reading a speaker review where one reviewer described it as very "open and airy", but another reviewer described it as "bright", "harsh" and "sibilant". When the measurements came in it turned out the speaker had a bump at around 17-18KHz which was just beyond the hearing range of the first reviewer, but within audible for the second. The "airiness" the first reviewer was percieving was likely the increased energy from that bump, which he could feel but not hear. OTOH, since the second reviewer could actually hear the bump he perceived the speaker as being overly bright.

I suppose it also depends on the music. Classical symphonies could well benefit from a system being able to reproduce higher-order harmonics, but I'd agree most modern rock/pop stuff probably won't see much from beyond 20KHz reproduction.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 24, 2014, 07:23:32 PM
cable madnezz!! :silly:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/cable_zps35b7143d.jpg)


(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqisihyFxQ1qaljgi.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 24, 2014, 08:16:49 PM
me and my wife also got a free invitation for the 2014 Audio Visual Show :silly:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/1_zps8fbc2f6c.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/2_zps7dd4f752.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 26, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
me and my wife also got a free invitation for the 2014 Audio Visual Show :silly:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/1_zps8fbc2f6c.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/2_zps7dd4f752.jpg)
good luck, dala ka ng caladryl :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 26, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
good luck, dala ka ng caladryl :)

well... my wife already told me not to bring more than 100 usd for that day.. alam na nya mangyayari :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 27, 2014, 09:30:56 AM
good luck, dala ka ng caladryl :)

well... my wife already told me not to bring more than 100 usd for that day.. alam na nya mangyayari :lol:

Na-customs! Hahaha.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 28, 2014, 02:09:54 AM
Anyone going to the 2014 Hi-Fi show? I'm looking forward to hearing the Triton 1.
If madami mag upgrade we might see a few Triton 2s on the 2nd hand market!

Trickle-down upgrades ftw lol
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 28, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
if bibili ka ng cables, might as well go for aftermarket, kung ganun din presyo, para maiba na rin tunog, KUNG may pagbabago nga ng tunog.

Last sunday binili ko yung upgrade USB cable na NuForce Impulse.
tapos last night napansin ko kinda kakaiba ng konti yung tunog ng HD-600, mas may impact yung bass at iba din yung
extend ng highs.. thou hindi ko sure kung dahil sa USB cable or dahil every night naka burn-in yung gears ko.
sa gabi kasi naka open lang yung laptop > Icon Dac > HD 600 tapos play loop lang ng pink noise.
so hindi ko masabi kung dahil sa USB ba or dahil na-burn in ng ng ayus yung Dac at Hp ko..
anyhow i still can A/B the stock usb cable vs upgrade cable later.

well ayun sa mga nabasa ko sa forums, kahit daw hardwares dac or amp need din daw ng burn-in..
may mga nabasa din ako na pati cables dapat i-burn in din..
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on August 28, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
/reads about cable burn-in

looks like this thread going into audiophool territory now.

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 28, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
/reads about cable burn-in

looks like this thread going into audiophool territory now.

Haha! :lol: minsan napapakapit nalang ako sa lamesa sa mga nababasa ko sa Hi-fi forums!

going back to A/B usb cable upgrade, confirm! walang pagbabago :D
for my ears 100% same lang sila, mas gwapo lang talaga tignan yung upgrade cable
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 29, 2014, 04:54:11 AM
feeling ko for USB cables, the only advantage is mas matibay yung cable/plugs and i guess hindi madali mabunot. plus yun nga, mas gwapo

for cable burn in, hanggang ngayon di ko pa rin yun gets, unless may resistor block or kung ano man yung nilalagay ng mga company dun sa ultra expensive speaker cables nila, bakit kakailanganin ng burn-in? actually kahit may mga component in between, i don't think burn-in will give a different sound signature. 

based sa experience ko sa speaker (and rca) cables, kung meron man difference angcables, very minimal lang yun, and kung ano man meron difference yun, malamang hindi sulit sa price premium.  unless for show. Van den Huls does look better compared to Stinger.

maybe may minimal difference, pero di ko na pinansin.  nagpalit ako ng cables from Van den Huls to Stinger kasi nag side grade ako from dual t-amp (monoblock set-up) to single t-amp, and nung binili ko yung Van den Hul, maikli lang binili ko (1m per side) thinking naka monoblock set-up.  1,500/m ang Van den Hul, tapos 150/m naman ang Stinger.  before changing the amp, pinalitan ko muna yung cables, to see if may difference.  and parang wala naman, nung una akala ko brighter sounding with the van den hul, kasi mas maraming details ako na naririnig, pero i dismissed it as placebo effect.  may malaking difference though and power and amp design.  from 36w/ch na t-amp (S.M.S.I.), i upgraded to a 65 or 125w/ch (can't remember) B&O Ice power amp.  both are class D/T, pero the B&O sounded cleaner and it gave me a better soundstage, however the SMSI sounded more musical, softer sounding, maybe tube like. but that's because i can now play my Celestion 9s louder, at the same levels, they sound more or less the same.  the extra power allowed me to play music without introducing distortion to the speakers, just clean sound.  cost difference between 2 t-amp vs 1 b&o amp?  none.   i could have spared myself 3k by going straight to stinger wires and skipping the Van den Huls.  RCAs naman, i bought ga21 solid copper, silver plated from Alexan, php5/m lang ata yun, tapos monster rca plugs (150) from LIS and neutrik 3.5mm stereo (150) din, heat shrinks.  no problems with it, except ang hirap maghinang sa Neutrik! next time siguro, bilhan ko ng techflex and cable jackets para mas pogi. 

TLDR: save your money from buying expensive cables and spend it on good amplifier and speakers.

p.s. may car audio version din ako pagdating sa speaker cables.  first set-up was Tchernov Jr and Sonus RCAs, 2nd set-up was generic ga14 (or 16 pa nga ata eh), and stinger rcas.  i need good enough rcas para hindi madali masira ang plugs.  speaker cables naman, they are screwed unto the terminals naman eh. 

first car sounds good with proper tuning, P99RS as source (one of Pioneer's best HU), pero the second car sounds even better even with just Alpine 9887 and no Sub.  same ako ng total gastos for both systems, for the first car, nag-invest ako sa cables and sa processor/hu/source, sa 2nd system naman, more on the speaker and amp.  i ended up liking the 2nd set-up better.  although marami naman ibang factors/difference din, like 2-way vs 3-way, passive vs active, time allignment, but in the end it all boils down on choosing what is best for the system.  looking back, i could've gone for cheaper speaker cables and get a midrange driver. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 01, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
My little family..

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/2a_zpscaa02324.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/3a_zps2ffa7e14.jpg)

NuForce Icon Dac , Senn HD 600 , Alessandro MS1i , KOSS PortaPro 25th Anniversary Edition
Ultimate Ears triple.fi 10 , Denon AH-C710 , Hippo VB , Fischer Audio Eterna V2
Yuin Pk1 , Yuin Pk2 , Senn MX400 , Sony S544 , Sony E474

PS.. 1 closed headphone last na! pramis! :lol: :silly:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 04, 2014, 03:20:45 PM
Extreme DIY! (a.k.a., when buying the real thing would've been MUCH cheaper)
But huge respect to this man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re7rfVk-bHA

Related: actual B&W 800 build video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UzqJJOiVVc)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 05, 2014, 08:28:08 PM
^ well he have all the machine and space needed to build that DIY.
but surely it will not sound as good as the original B&W but i would love to have 1set of that DIY on my room ;D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 06, 2014, 04:11:14 AM
^ The one machine he didn't have was the press that forms the curved cabinet. You can see he did that by tying down the layered birch to some DIY moulds instead.

Aside from that I think the speaker should sound almost as good as the real thing. He had the CAD plans for the carpentry, including the internal "matrix" bracing. Plus he used original B&W parts (probably sourced from the repair channels) for everything else. He mentions the DIY 800Ds totally outperform his KEF Reference speakers. I'm curious how he got the designs, though.

I suppose for him going DIY was more about learning how to build a statement class speaker, rather than saving money. Consider the cost of materials, tools, not to mention 480 hours of work and real 800Ds are probably cheaper.

Build thread (also linked in the youtube vid) (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=198192)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 06, 2014, 12:20:29 PM
I see he just manually curved the main cabinet body w/o pressing machine. Amazingly how he manage to have all that
space and tooling for that High-end DIY. I think this guy really know how to make speakers, or maybe he works for B&W.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: aero13 on September 07, 2014, 09:23:19 PM
I was choosing between Superlux HD681 Evo and Superlux HD 661...


I chose the EVO.. sana tama yung decision ko.. Anyone na nakapag compare na nito before?


Thanks :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 08, 2014, 08:39:22 AM
I was choosing between Superlux HD681 Evo and Superlux HD 661...


I chose the EVO.. sana tama yung decision ko.. Anyone na nakapag compare na nito before?


Thanks :)
i just went for HD330 and HD660 :)
IMO one of the better sounding Superlux HP


but either of your choices are on the upper end din. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 08, 2014, 09:22:34 AM
worth the try,
this allows iphone users to play flac and dsd files, also connect to external DAC (iphone 5/lightning connector)

works with my Pioneer P99RS so i'm happy. will migrate my library soon. :)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onkyo-hf-player/id704139896?mt=8
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 10, 2014, 05:10:07 PM
^ dont waste your space with those DSD files.. for may ears wala namang pagkakaiba compared to flac
dipende nalang kung maganda at maayus yung pagkaka convert sa flac, if not.. well TPB :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 15, 2014, 05:03:45 PM
Interesting stuff!

[youtube]fT4Nz_vFSkM[/youtube]

More in the related vids
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on September 16, 2014, 09:14:07 PM
bago kong kinababaliwan.  undecided kung mag-uupgrade or tigil na dito. hahaha

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/35CB9E06-142B-4273-8808-01E1315528C6_zpsfuxxekpy.jpg)
been there hehe.  I still have bits and pieces of my focal (last and most expensive before eventually moving on) set-up, most were sold. I remember when I dedened my doors and that was the start of that.   Dumating din ako sa point na nagsawa, moved on to a different hobby.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on September 16, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
Interesting stuff!

[youtube]fT4Nz_vFSkM[/youtube]

More in the related vids
I have this on DVD; the discs were mailed to me when I registered my speakers on-line.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 17, 2014, 01:30:05 PM
bago kong kinababaliwan.  undecided kung mag-uupgrade or tigil na dito. hahaha

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/35CB9E06-142B-4273-8808-01E1315528C6_zpsfuxxekpy.jpg)
been there hehe.  I still have bits and pieces of my focal (last and most expensive before eventually moving on) set-up, most were sold. I remember when I dedened my doors and that was the start of that.   Dumating din ako sa point na nagsawa, moved on to a different hobby.

I thought it'll end with my hertz mlk - kia pride (http://photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE - Kia Pride/ICE - Kia Pride Install Book (http://photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE - Kia Pride/ICE - Kia Pride Install Book)), but no.  HAHAHA.

Not really spending too much, most of my items are 2nd hand gears, but i try not to skimp on installation (speaker aiming, tuning).  My reason for the upgrades: to make the traffic around metro manila bearable.


My next upgrade will be a 2-din hu from pioneer for navigation. Waze! :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on September 17, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
don't fight it @dom_08, scratch the upgrade itch hehe
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 17, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
Sony's new flagship 2014 - MDR-Z7

(http://www.head-fi.org/content/type/61/id/1188522/width/350/height/700/flags/LL)

(http://sonyfan.vn/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/z574-640x355.jpg)


(http://www.wordans.co.uk/wvc-1324694763/wordansfiles/images/2011/12/23/114172/114172_340.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 29, 2014, 09:48:20 PM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/10_zps2f8c29db.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/600_zps78a4e71f.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 30, 2014, 12:34:43 AM
bakit umiilaw yung HD600 mo? :P

how i listen to music while on the road. :)
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/D4C1435E-C80F-49AB-86DD-9CE646E34FA4_zps6sk3fmyr.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 12, 2014, 06:53:34 AM
wow Dyns!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 24, 2014, 01:22:29 AM
Can you hear the difference between 24-bit and 16-bit audio?

/r/audiophile mod Arve just posted an interesting experiment (http://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/2n5zwe/beating_the_24bit_horse/).

Quote
Do you think you can hear the difference between 24- and 16- bit audio? In that case, I have prepared a torture test for you.

Here (http://media.veven.org/2014/11/24plus9.zip) is a zip file (stored with -0, so no compression) with set of two 24-bit wav files (16MB).

In it are two 24-bit audio named x[six-digit number].wav that contain the following:

    One of the files is a 30-second excerpt of "Solstice" by Versa & Rowl
    The other file is also an excerpt of "Solstice", with a twist. Into the lowest nine bits of the track, I have mixed in a 30-second excerpt of "Off to the Races" by Lana Del Rey.

Now:

    Open the files in your favorite ABX tool.
    Make a test run with 10 tests. How many correct guesses did you make? (If you have an ABX log, feel free to add it)
    If you know of means to cheat, don't - that takes the fun out of it.

What is this test testing?

By mixing in a signal that is uncorrelated to the original, I'm making sort of a worst-case test here - the signal I'm mixing in is twice as loud than the LSB of a 16-bit file, and I've chosen a quiet passage of the Versa & Rowl track and the loudest passage of the already loud Lana Del Rey track.

If you can't hear the difference between the two, it's highly unlikely that you'll see any sort of benefit from 24-bit audio files.

I tried and got 7/10 (http://i.imgur.com/iHaguIe.png).

If you're a redditor, you might want to post your results in this thread (http://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/2n5zwe/beating_the_24bit_horse/) as well and add to the sample size.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on November 24, 2014, 10:04:57 PM
I could not hear any difference at all.

Unless I was doing something wrong or I just have tin ears, I got a 0/5 and just gave up after that. I couldn't even guess right.  :lol:

Test setup:

Foobar2k (WASAPI Event 24-bit output, DSP disabled)
ABX Comparator Component
HRT Music Streamer II USB DAC
NAD C326BEE
Monitor Audio BR2
SVS SB12NSD
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 01, 2014, 11:46:26 AM
gave my wife the Denon C710, her first impression: a huge smile  :)
she said, parang hindi galing sa maliit na earphone yung tunog :lol: (sound stage FTW!)

i think she's starting to appreciate my audio stuff.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on December 07, 2014, 11:56:26 PM
ok ba pang music ito? anong class ang ganitong AMP?
maliit lang sya pero ang taas ng watts

http://www.behringer.com/assets/ep2500_p0183_m_en.pdf
my nag bebenta kasi pero made in china na sya kaya still thinking 
(http://upload.review33.com/images/201410/201410261415384830.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 08, 2014, 02:13:32 AM
^ almost certainly class D.

Wow the specs! Show the karaoke playing neighbors who's boss kinda power. Get it and some sensitive frat party speakers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,194427.0.html) then go to town!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: motion55 on December 08, 2014, 07:52:57 AM
^^^The manual says it's class AB for the EP1500 and class H for the EP2500 model. Those huge heatsinks are a giveaway that it's probably not a class D amp. The number of high power resistors indicate it's probably a conventional design amp.


However, the power consumption of the amp versus the power output suggests that it is has almost class D efficiency. Maybe the output power ratings are not FTC.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: slide on December 08, 2014, 12:51:41 PM
+1 on class ab.  class d are mainly chip amps.  and commercial ones usually use smps.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 08, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5es8zggYM7A
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on December 12, 2014, 12:23:11 AM
some say it is a clone of a QSC amp
i think i'll get this AMP & blast some songs from the 80's hehehe
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on December 22, 2014, 07:00:41 PM
Hi guys!  Good evening!
I'm looking for a budget earphones/buds.  Maximum budget po is 1.5k php.  Do ypu have any suggestions? I'm located in muntinlupa po. Thank you

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 23, 2014, 12:56:03 AM
Sorry hungree, no experience with earbuds. My on the road phones are Senn HD201s I got for P900 two years ago when Octagon had them on sale.

What do you guys think: B&W CM9 S2? Or go for that 2nd hand set of GoldenEar Triton 2s being sold over at PDVD? Cost will end up about the same.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 23, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
@hungree,
Honestly its hard to find a good earphone at that price, i do personally recommend that you save more
and buy a good set that will make your ear smile every time you listen. Mahirap kasi yung "pwede na to"
you will just end up buying another one after a couple of months lalo na pag nakapag try ka ng mas
maganda ang Sound Quality. Kung yan talaga yung budget mo for now try to visit EggHead Rob Galleria
and audition all the earphone that can fit your budget.

@splerdu,
CM9 S2 all the way sir! may narinig na din akong ilang model ng B&W and they never disappoint!
those B&W speakers sounds really f@cken good and well balanced, sobrang pogi pa tignan yung
classic design nya, its like putting a lamborghini diablo right in your living room! when i see/hear the
brand GoldenEar parang hype lang ang dating, thou i haven't hear or see any of them.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on December 23, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
Thanks for the suggestion sir splerdu. Ill pass in headphones po im a commuter only so i think its a big one for me.  Hehe

@heishi if i stretch my budget to 2.5k may maissuggest po b kayo?

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on December 23, 2014, 05:36:48 PM
Budget headphones:
http://m.thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-40/
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: reel on December 23, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
id still go with the Superlux HD381F, real bliss bargain for less 1k. downside: cheap cables that will get chewed up within 3 months, would be great if you recable them.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 24, 2014, 04:45:45 AM
hungree, for earphones (in-ear) i'd suggest you try out soundmagic e10m/e10s. :)
get the one with the twisted wires (to know you're getting the latest version)

splerdu, try listening to B&W's PM1 :) i have no problems with the CM series, it's just that the PM1 sounds sweeter. :)
goldenears are really good sounding speakers.  both the PM1 and GoldenEar gives a better soundstage (wider) for me, but it might because of the set-up when i listend ot them. 

make sure they are powered by really good amplifiers, at that price point any speaker you choose, you will be getting good results.  best is to bring your source, pre-amp and amp and test the speakers. or ask them if they allow home auditions ;)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 24, 2014, 05:48:13 AM
I auditioned the GoldenEar Triton 2s before. They really are super good. Stereophile has them in the recommended components list in the same category as the B&W 804D, with some kind words suggesting they bat in the $10k class.

PM1 is interesting. Do you know where to have a listen? I'd certainly take the PM1 over the CM6 S2 but the CM9 S2 sort of bats in a different category.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 24, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
I auditioned the GoldenEar Triton 2s before. They really are super good. Stereophile has them in the recommended components list in the same category as the B&W 804D, with some kind words suggesting they bat in the $10k class.

PM1 is interesting. Do you know where to have a listen? I'd certainly take the PM1 over the CM6 S2 but the CM9 S2 sort of bats in a different category.
i think your best bet is yung sa West Ave. 
pair it with Classe amp ;)

what's your amplifier by the way?
you can also check the shop sa kalayaan (avshop yata yun) if the 704s are still there. although getting bnew or slightly used speakers is still the better option :)

pure stereo lang ba?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 24, 2014, 02:23:23 PM
Stereo only for now. Planning to go with Parasound and/or Emotiva (bang for the buck brands). I'm pretty set on the Parasound P5 for pre-amp, power section is still open. Considering the XPA-2 because it'll be easy to add an XPA-3 or 5 later on if I decide to do surround.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 25, 2014, 04:27:23 PM
Linn Record's entire 24-bits of christmas is free for download for the next few days. (Registration required, Adobe Air download manager required)

http://www.linn.co.uk/christmas (http://www.linn.co.uk/christmas)

Just add any one track to your cart for download and it'll give you the whole album.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 28, 2014, 12:52:25 PM
Linn Record's entire 24-bits of christmas is free for download for the next few days. (Registration required, Adobe Air download manager required)

http://www.linn.co.uk/christmas (http://www.linn.co.uk/christmas)

Just add any one track to your cart for download and it'll give you the whole album.
downloading! thanks ;D

Stereo only for now. Planning to go with Parasound and/or Emotiva (bang for the buck brands). I'm pretty set on the Parasound P5 for pre-amp, power section is still open. Considering the XPA-2 because it'll be easy to add an XPA-3 or 5 later on if I decide to do surround.
emotiva amps are beefy.
but having a matched pre-amp and power-amp is sexy

 >:D 

give your speakers as much power as you can, specially the B&Ws... *cough*dual mono-blocks*cough*
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 28, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
I should stop listening to stuff that's out of my budget lol.

Wandered into The Grey Market Makati yesterday while waiting for Mendokoro to open for dinner. Just wanted to check out if they had some new CDs or stuff, but walked in on another customer who was auditioning the Line Magnetic 219 driving GoldenEar Triton 7s. Single Ended Triode is cool! Only 24WPC but no trouble at all raising volume to very loud levels, and unlike typical tube amps this behemoth seemed to have no problems producing lots of low end thump.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 30, 2014, 09:16:44 PM
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/WIN_20141230_205206_zps189472ab.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/WIN_20141230_205206_zps189472ab.jpg.html)
:D

splerdu, try mo, ang saya :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 30, 2014, 10:17:36 PM
^50 or 90? kamusta interface? wala bang issues?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 30, 2014, 10:30:56 PM
dx90, maayos naman. :) 6 days pa lang sa akin.sarap gamitin as DAC for my desktop. 

DAC + DAP ;D
headphone amp is good enough, probably enough for some IEMs and my dream AKG 702, need new head amp for HD800 or Audeze.  lumitaw na yung pagkukulang ng e10m as iem
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on December 30, 2014, 11:07:40 PM
gusto ko din sana bumili ng bagong Dap kaso medyo takot ako sa ibasso at Fiio sa dami ng mga bugs na
nababasa ko all over the net.. im thinking to get a Sony A17
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 31, 2014, 03:13:17 PM
so far so good for me. super clean sound :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 31, 2014, 05:57:36 PM
Meron AK @ Rockwell PowerPlant Mall near the cinemas
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on December 31, 2014, 08:28:28 PM
Tinaob ng ATH-M50x/Realtek ALC 892 onboard yung MA BR2/NADC326BEE/HRT MSII DAC/SVS SB12NSD 2.1 setup ko.

Na-temp ako tuloy ako mag upgrade ng speakers so nag audition ako  ng PSB Imagine B & Imagine XB, Dali Lektor 1 & 2, Tannoy Revolution DC6, B&W 685 S2 using expensive amps at sources. Planning to test KEF Q300 & R100, Martin Logan Motion 15 and a few others na pasok sa budget next week. So far, angat parin yung M50X/Realtek combo sa SQ lalo na sa ambient detail at bass compared sa speaker setups na dinemo ko costing many times more.

Hindi lang ako sanay sa HP listening kaya medyo sumasakit ulo ko in less an hour since medyo uncomfortable ako sa feeling na naka headphones at unnatural ang stereo presentation. Sanayan lang siguro.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 31, 2014, 11:25:55 PM
Tinaob ng ATH-M50x/Realtek ALC 892 onboard yung MA BR2/NADC326BEE/HRT MSII DAC/SVS SB12NSD 2.1 setup ko.

Na-temp ako tuloy ako mag upgrade ng speakers so nag audition ako  ng PSB Imagine B & Imagine XB, Dali Lektor 1 & 2, Tannoy Revolution DC6, B&W 685 S2 using expensive amps at sources. Planning to test KEF Q300 & R100, Martin Logan Motion 15 and a few others na pasok sa budget next week. So far, angat parin yung M50X/Realtek combo sa SQ lalo na sa ambient detail at bass compared sa speaker setups na dinemo ko costing many times more.

Hindi lang ako sanay sa HP listening kaya medyo sumasakit ulo ko in less an hour since medyo uncomfortable ako sa feeling na naka headphones at unnatural ang stereo presentation. Sanayan lang siguro.
get a good head amp and dap and your m50x will sing.
headphones have good tonal, but it is harder to achieve good sound stage, width, depth and imaging.
try audtitioning Dynaudio and Focal speakers, both sa Shang EDSA yan
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 31, 2014, 11:26:56 PM
Meron AK @ Rockwell PowerPlant Mall near the cinemas
aray sa budget. tapos yung upgrade for the AK, same price nung AK. -_-

yung DX90 regalo lang. hahaha
tagal ko nang gusto kumuha, wala lang sa budget. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 01, 2015, 07:14:19 PM
get a good head amp and dap and your m50x will sing.

I've also been looking for a headphone USB DAC/Amp for the sonic upgrade and the convenience of having a dedicated 2 channel output with volume control for my M50X but I'm holding back on getting one until I'm comfortable enough for longer HP listening sessions to make the purchase worthwhile.

try audtitioning Dynaudio and Focal speakers, both sa Shang EDSA yan

I tried a pair of Focal Aria stand-mounts over at AVDI Shang. They sounded very detailed but the bass was a bit boomy. Way over budget too. Gonna try to listen to Dynes if I come across any.

headphones have good tonal, but it is harder to achieve good sound stage, width, depth and imaging.

Interestingly, I relaxed the toe-in of my MA BR2s where the tweeters are now pointed slightly past my ears instead of directly towards them and the off-axis nearfield setup seems to have drastically opened up the sound stage, width, depth and imaging  and puts the speakers a step closer to my experience with the M50X headphones in terms of ambient detail. The listening sweet spot seems to also have really widened quite a bit which allows me to move my head around more without noticeable HF response shifting.

Definitely inspires more confidence towards just keeping my existing speakers.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 02, 2015, 11:15:16 AM
get a good head amp and dap and your m50x will sing.

I've also been looking for a headphone USB DAC/Amp for the sonic upgrade and the convenience of having a dedicated 2 channel output with volume control for my M50X but I'm holding back on getting one until I'm comfortable enough for longer listening HP sessions to make the purchase worthwhile.

i had that set-up before, though not really high end.  I use a Xiang Sheng Dac01 for my desktop DAC, it has headphone out, and tube pre-out which connects to my B&O ICE 125sx power amp, which in turn connects to Celestion 9 speakers.  it sounds great but eventually the xiang sheng broke down (probably one of the capacitors, too lazy to have it repaired). It has coax, optical and usb in (i use optical out from my desktop to the DAC), 192/24. 

 I've been using on board audio for a time already, which works, but eventually upgrade itch came in, and i started to research. The iBasso dx90 sounds reasonable as it can act as DAP and USB DAC, and it has a pretty good head amp, not gonna power any Senn HD600 HP, but it can power what i have right now.  Prepare your 192/24 files on microSD cards, as you're gonna need them if you're gonna audition.  although people at Listening Room (megamall) have good demo tracks. 

good luck. ;D


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try audtitioning Dynaudio and Focal speakers, both sa Shang EDSA yan

I tried a pair of Focal Aria stand-mounts over at AVDI Shang. They sounded very detailed but the bass was a bit boomy. Way over budget too. Gonna try to listen to Dynes if I come across any.

headphones have good tonal, but it is harder to achieve good sound stage, width, depth and imaging.

Interestingly, I relaxed the toe-in of my MA BR2s where the tweeters are now pointed slightly past my ears instead of directly towards them and the off-axis nearfield setup seems to have drastically opened up the sound stage, width, depth and imaging  and puts the speakers a step closer to my experience with the M50X headphones in terms of ambient detail. The listening sweet spot seems to also have really widened quite a bit which allows me to move my head around more without noticeable HF response shifting.

Definitely inspires more confidence towards just keeping my existing speakers.

Listening in Style Shang has Dynaudios on demo.  But a good aiming and positioning of speakers is a good key.  try positioning your speakers away from walls or any object that can introduce reflection.  not sure if your MA speakers has built in foot, but adding foot to speakers help (wood resonance, work on all sides of the speakers, including the bottom part), rubber feet will do, just enough for the cabinet to move freely on all sides.

off-axis also helps to tame the tweeter down.  :) 


btw: make sure your phase is good. 
http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_polaritycheck.php (http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_polaritycheck.php)

next step is room treatment. 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on January 02, 2015, 02:03:35 PM
@Mr. Bungle, ingat sa pag audition. baka di ka makapagpigil :lol:

@dom_08, glad to know ok naman sya, anung firmware gamit mo?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 02, 2015, 10:35:00 PM
@heishi

this one
https://github.com/Lurker00/DX90-firmware/releases
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 05, 2015, 02:29:21 AM
cross-posting my rig here (http://forum.pinoypc.net/index.php?topic=36624.msg914315#msg914315 (http://forum.pinoypc.net/index.php?topic=36624.msg914315#msg914315))

Dell tab-pc, WD 1TB USB 3.0
iBasso DX90 (DAC)
custom 1.8mm stereo (Neutrik) to RCA (monster) (DIY), braided silver cables
ICE Power 125asx2 (B&O tech)
StingerPro gauge 16 (braided again)
Celestion Sub
StingerPro gauge 16 (braided again)
Celestion 9

Harman Kardon CL
Fiio E11 head amp

for repair:
XiangSheng Dac01 (will probably use this as tube buffer, or will get a new tube buffer)


aiming for AKG K702 within the year
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on January 05, 2015, 09:24:54 AM
yesterday i tried the Sony A17, honestly using my TF-10 i cannot hear the flac fever..
SQ wise basta maganda pagkaka rip ng 320 bit di mo talaga maririnig pagkakaiba sa Flac
siguro kung high end yung whole system possible but with my current budget rig stay
nalang ako kay Sony E474 + 320 mp3 + TF-10 :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 05, 2015, 02:07:45 PM

@Mr. Bungle, ingat sa pag audition. baka di ka makapagpigil :lol:

Totoo yan. Hindi na sana ako iikot pa pero sige pa rin. Sobrang tempted ako ngayon sa KEF LS50  monitors sa laki ng discount na binibigay sa akin kaya pumasok sa absolute budget limit ko.




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Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on January 05, 2015, 03:58:55 PM
^ magkano? mukang mahal yan ah
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 05, 2015, 05:57:41 PM
$1,499 SRP ng LS50, P48K offer sa akin. Hanap pa ako ng ibang options. Tumitingin pa ako ng mga mas reasonably priced professional audio active studio monitors (M-audio, Genelec, KRK, Adam Audio, JBL, etc.) na mas ideal daw for near field desktops kesa branded hi-fi speakers.

 
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try positioning your speakers away from walls or any object that can introduce reflection.  not sure if your MA speakers has built in foot, but adding foot to speakers help (wood resonance, work on all sides of the speakers, including the bottom part), rubber feet will do, just enough for the cabinet to move freely on all sides.

6" is as far as I can position the speakers away from the back walls in my near field desktop setup. No obstructions on the sides though.

I have Auralex Mopad Isolators for each speaker which also help in keeping the tweeters at ear level.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 05, 2015, 08:04:21 PM
LS50s are super good. Stereophile "Class-A" recommended, meaning they bat in the same league as super hi-dollar speakers.

I got to hear them shortly after they launched in 2012 and IMO they were every bit as good as the reviews suggest.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 06, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
yesterday i tried the Sony A17, honestly using my TF-10 i cannot hear the flac fever..
SQ wise basta maganda pagkaka rip ng 320 bit di mo talaga maririnig pagkakaiba sa Flac
siguro kung high end yung whole system possible but with my current budget rig stay
nalang ako kay Sony E474 + 320 mp3 + TF-10 :)
try listening to HDTracks, and look for an mp3 version. :)
you can a/b and hear the difference. but for 16-bit vs 24-bit, baka mas mahirap madifferentiate. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on January 06, 2015, 11:15:56 AM
^ 16 vs 24 halos wala naman na talaga maririnig na pagkakaiba unless bad copy/rip ang isa (IMO).
kahit nga 16 vs 320 mp3 hirap akong marinig pagkakaiba unless bad copy yung mp3, may mga flac
nga akong mas mataas ang background noise kesa sa Mp3. i think depende din sa gears kung
super detail talaga yung kayang maproduce na sound. so far happy nako sa current setup ko.
320 mp3 para sa portable then 16 bit flac sa laptop :) closed back HP nalang!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 06, 2015, 01:19:31 PM
The biggest problem with lossy formats is if you end up needing to re-encode for whatever reason.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on January 10, 2015, 09:27:41 AM
hi guys, not sure if it is appropriate to post here but anyway.  sabog na yung bass ng 3 out of 4 speakers ng car ko.  are these repairable?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on January 10, 2015, 09:30:12 AM
ay parang hindi lang bass yung sabog, mismong speakers na but I'm not totally sure
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 10, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
Try raon, or look for speakerdoctor at the PDVD forums.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 11, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
hi guys, not sure if it is appropriate to post here but anyway.  sabog na yung bass ng 3 out of 4 speakers ng car ko.  are these repairable?
stock speakers sir? upgrade na yan. hehe

here's the details for speaker doctor ;)


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We are offering quality speaker repair and other speaker related services. Audio quality is as good as original. Please see the rates below.

Our address is 1241 Lopez Jaena St. Paco, Manila (Landmarks: Goldilock's Paco, Jollibee Paco, Paco Church and Paco Catholic School, Mercury Drug & 7-11 Paz, Paco).


For inquiries please contact:


Benedict
0921-7224138


Quote
Here are the rates per speaker:

Foam Edge/Suspension Replacement

4 inches - Php 300
5 inches - Php 350
6 inches - Php 400
8 inches - Php 500
10 inches - Php 600
12 inches - Php 700
15 inches - Php 800
18 inches - Php 1,200

Rubber Edge/Suspension Replacement

4 inches - Php 400
6 inches - Php 500
8 inches - Php 600
10 inches - Php 700
12 inches - Php 800
15 inches - Php 900


Voice Coil Rewinding

Tweeter, Dome type - Php 400
Tweeter, Cone type - Php 500
Woofer, 4 inches (2 layers) - Php 450
Woofer, 4 inches (4 layers) - Php 500
Woofer, 5 inches (2 layers) - Php 500
Woofer, 5 inches (4 layers) - Php 550
Woofer, 6 inches (2 layers) - Php 600
Woofer, 6 inches (4 layers) - Php 650
Woofer, 8 inches (2 layers) - Php 700
Woofer, 8 inches (4 layers) - Php 750
Woofer, 10 inches (2 layers) - Php 800
Woofer, 10 inches (4 layers) - Php 850
Woofer, 12 inches (2 layers) - Php 900
Woofer, 12 inches (4 layers)- Php 1,000
Woofer, 15 inches (2 layers) - Php 1,000
Woofer, 15 inches (4 layers) - Php 1,100
Woofer, 18 inches (2 layers) - Php 1,200
Woofer, 18 inches (4 layers) - Php 1,300


Other services offered:


Cone, Pigtail, Spider & Dust cover replacement

Rewiring

Voice Coil/Magnet Re-center

Terminal Replacement
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on January 11, 2015, 10:05:52 PM
Ang layo pala nila! Is it worth the effort and time to just have the speakers repaired?  how much will it cost me to get a decent set of speakers?  Car is a Civic 2006 and I believe the stock speakers are 6" but I'm not totally sure
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 12, 2015, 01:26:48 AM
Ang layo pala nila! Is it worth the effort and time to just have the speakers repaired?  how much will it cost me to get a decent set of speakers?  Car is a Civic 2006 and I believe the stock speakers are 6" but I'm not totally sure

i think entry level audison, hertz, focal and morel costs around 8-12k.  JBL should be below 6k.  if you like 2nd hand items, you might want to check kotseaudioclub.com

as for repair, as long as the two front speakers are working, you should be fine.  not really worth the effort to have stock speakers repaired.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 12, 2015, 01:36:53 AM
slightly updated my Vios for car audio, so i took some photos :)

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8825_zps7f66328c.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8825_zps7f66328c.jpg.html)
Driver View

Alpine 9887
Dynaudio Esotec 342

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8820_zpsf49a8286.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8820_zpsf49a8286.jpg.html)
view from the back seat

[URL=http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8777_zpsd39d13d9.jpg.html](http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8777_zpsd39d13d9.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8777_zpsd39d13d9.jpg.html?o=2)[/url]
Alpine 9887

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8773_zps97565ef1.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8773_zps97565ef1.jpg.html)
Tweet and Midrange on modified pillars

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8769_zps8cdd6c81.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_8769_zps8cdd6c81.jpg.html)
Mosconi AS 300.2, Dynaudio 342 Passives
and the latest addition Helix P10 subwoofer (powered by JBL mono amp, not seen)



next step: carwash
hahahaha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on January 12, 2015, 08:22:33 PM
ang mahal pala! meron bang mas mura? :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 13, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
ang mahal pala! meron bang mas mura? :)

try Nakamichi.  meron ako nakita dati sa Metrowalk.  dun sa side ng parking.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on January 14, 2015, 03:22:13 PM
hindi ba okay magpagawa sa banawe? :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 16, 2015, 01:25:16 AM
hindi ba okay magpagawa sa banawe? :)

Ok lang. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on January 16, 2015, 01:37:09 PM
actually was thinking i would just go to banawe and have my speakers replaced with a cheap set.  Pioneer is okay? :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 18, 2015, 05:30:24 AM
actually was thinking i would just go to banawe and have my speakers replaced with a cheap set.  Pioneer is okay? :)
yup, pioneer/nakamichi or JBL should be good :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 18, 2015, 09:26:40 PM

next step is room treatment. 

You speak the truth. I've done all I can with positioning and subwoofer integration. Not much left I can do with my limited space.

This is how my system setup measures currently with the all the tweaks I could do that sound best to my ears:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/REW_zps6a856116.png)
*with 1/6 smoothing applied to the graph....and it doesn't sound as bad as it looks :-P


I'm currently reading up on guides for basic acoustic treatments for space constrained, close to the wall, near-field studio setups similar to my listening setup. I may need to install some foam absorber/diffuser panels behind the LS50 monitors to try to balance the stereo image of the left and right channels which are placed near a wall and window respectively and bass traps for the wall corner behind where my desk and the SB12NSD sub are at. I hope the foam panels and traps being sold at PDVD works.

Another thing, I read that most  bass traps with the exception of the really big ones are only effective down to 60~40Hz. Below that, I may have to resort to software based DRC. Gonna try out Accourate and Audiolense demos with my MiniDSP UMIK-1 factory calibrated USB measurement microphone to generate correction filters for use with the convolution DSP of JRMC18 and fb2k. Just curious  to hear what modern DRC can do. Not sure if I would purchase DRC software though, as they're quite expensive. On the other hand, the free options aren't as compelling either in terms of usability and functionality.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 19, 2015, 03:24:37 AM

next step is room treatment. 

You speak the truth. I've done all I can with positioning and subwoofer integration. Not much left I can do with my limited space.

This is how my system setup measures currently with the all the tweaks I could do that sound best to my ears:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/REW_zps6a856116.png)
*with 1/6 smoothing applied to the graph....and it doesn't sound as bad as it looks :-P


I'm currently reading up on guides for basic acoustic treatments for space constrained, close to the wall, near-field studio setups similar to my listening setup. I may need to install some foam absorber/diffuser panels behind the LS50 monitors to try to balance the stereo image of the left and right channels which are placed near a wall and window respectively and bass traps for the wall corner behind where my desk and the SB12NSD sub are at. I hope the foam panels and traps being sold at PDVD works.

Another thing, I read that most  bass traps with the exception of the really big ones are only effective down to 60~40Hz. Below that, I may have to resort to software based DRC. Gonna try out Accourate and Audiolense demos with my MiniDSP UMIK-1 factory calibrated USB measurement microphone to generate correction filters for use with the convolution DSP of JRMC18 and fb2k. Just curious  to hear what modern DRC can do. Not sure if I would purchase DRC software though, as they're quite expensive. On the other hand, the free options aren't as compelling either in terms of usability and functionality.

those are huge dips.  how's your speaker phase? are you on bi-amp/bi-wire? your tweeter sections loks fine, but that midrange/midbass area.   how's your distance from the center of the two speakers, is it shorter compared to the distance between the two speakers?
Title: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 19, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
Edit:

Please disregard the FR measurement in my previous post. It is inaccurate as I measured the frequency response of both speakers at the same time with a single microphone. I should have measured the left and right channels separately which is the proper method for measuring full range frequency response.

I'll redo the measurements when I have the time.

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how's your speaker phase?

I tried flipping the polarity of one of the speaker wires and it sounded like something's wrong while playing music. The subwoofer sounded best at 180 degrees phase. I plugged the bass reflex ports of the KEF LS50s to get rid of the boominess of the wall-side left speaker and set the crossover of the SVS SB12NSD sub to take over at 120Hz. That cleaned up the mid to high ranges and evened out the bass coming from the left and right channels.

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are you on bi-amp/bi-wire?

I'm running the speakers from a single amp. Can't do biwire because the LS50 only has one pair of binding posts for each speaker.

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how's your distance from the center of the two speakers, is it shorter compared to the distance between the two speakers?

I'm definitely closer. Very nearfield. The speakers are one meter apart from each other and i'm about 2 1/2 feet away from them. Maybe that's why the room modes  and time domain problems with the mid to high frequencies don't audibly affect me that much since I'm close to the point sources. Its the low frequency problems that I really notice.

I do get a somewhat headphone-like stereo image but that's ok, as long as I get the illusion that the singer is in front of me and not in my head.

While the LS50's Uni-Q driver array sounds great even with the very suboptimal setup I have, I know I'm not getting the best out of them. Hopefully I can setup a proper listening area when I move to a new place later this year.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 19, 2015, 11:17:15 PM
@Mr. Bungle

I see, although as i understand it (correct me if i am wrong) you can also take the measurements of both speakers at the same time, though better with a stereo mic (or headset mic, the ones where you have mics on both of your ears).  you can position the mic just behind where your head should be, this way you'll see how your left and right speakers interact with each other, which can cause peaks and dips.  then adjust your position where your graphs looks best. 

how's the svs at 120Hz? usually i'd cross my sub at 50 or 63Hz, but that's with a FS.  the reason is that i want to avoid localization of the subwoofer, i just want it to be around and be able to tell where the subwoofer is. 

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I do get a somewhat headphone-like stereo image but that's ok, as long as I get the illusion that the singer is in front of me and not in my head.
LOL, im glad you mentioned that, i'm really having a hard time enjoying music with headphones since im disturbed that there's a voice inside my head. LOL  though that Virtual Barber Shop audio sounds great with headphones :) 

it's easier to attain good tonality with headphones than with home stereo, more so than car stereo.  though sometimes i wish have the same processing power of my car stereo on my desktop/computer system. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 19, 2015, 11:51:35 PM
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I see, although as i understand it (correct me if i am wrong) you can also take the measurements of both speakers at the same time, though better with a stereo mic (or headset mic, the ones where you have mics on both of your ears).

You are correct that properly set up stereo measurement mics would be needed to accurately simulate the pick-up of our ears on each side of our head and perhaps the phase interactions between the speakers. Since I only have a single measurement mic, I am only limited to doing per-channel measurements to get the most accurate frequency response interactions with the room.

In practice, I have compared the the same songs between my M50X headphones and speakers and they pretty much sound the same. For the latter, I certainly haven't noticed any attenuated audio information in the "problematic" mid-range dips as seen in my initial measurement graph. On the other hand, the songs sound so much more resolving with the LS50 overall but even with the SVS sub, the bass depth and tightness is much better on M50X headphones. The thing is, while I could hear the exceptional bass with HPs but I couldn't feel all that great bass in my body. So there.  :silly:

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how's the svs at 120Hz? usually i'd cross my sub at 50 or 63Hz, but that's with a FS.  the reason is that i want to avoid localization of the subwoofer, i just want it to be around and be able to tell where the subwoofer is. 

The SB12NSD sounds great IMO. Its capable of delivering tight transient response in the upper bass frequencies probably because it's sealed and it has a DSP-controlled class D amplifier. The LS50s with the foam plugs roll off pretty steeply well above 100Hz in my room. The sub is positioned under my desk right in front of me. So far I've had no localization issues provided that I have the phase, crossover and volume level settings of the sub setup for the best integration possible. The mid to high bass sounds like they're coming from the main speakers and I get the impression that the lowest bass notes are coming from everywhere and nowhere depending on the song. Long story short, the sub basically disappears.

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though that Virtual Barber Shop audio sounds great with headphones

Yeah that demo was pretty amazing, I tried that recently with my old Sennheiser HD 415 HPs when I was researching for gaming headsets with virtual surround to buy. I realized I didn't need virtual surround because of that demo so I just bought an M50X. hehe

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it's easier to attain good tonality with headphones than with home stereo

I totally agree. It costs a whole lot more too to achieve parity in terms of audio quality for home stereo systems to match high fidelity headphones as I have learned first hand.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 23, 2015, 12:45:01 AM
Damping factor is real!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on March 09, 2015, 06:52:04 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10464367_10153739951044852_4519196920576083016_n.jpg?oh=02b6476c8d09c1d3d5e4427aa4eeff5c&oe=558CC578&__gda__=1433943815_eb9122a2d1ed2fe17714b624e4794903)

gave in to an itch hahaha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: riceboy on March 15, 2015, 12:49:22 AM

Sennheiser HD 650 --> Schiit Lyr 2 --> Schiit Bifrost UBER USB --> MacBook Air

(https://db.tt/Oe5iaPIb)



Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 15, 2015, 04:18:32 AM
Nice!
How do you like the HD650s? People say not as extended in the highs as the 600, but for the same reason less fatiguing for long listening sessions.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 18, 2015, 12:33:22 PM
Great move by Youtube!
http://productionadvice.co.uk/youtube-loudness/
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 27, 2015, 12:14:41 PM
Interview with Paul Barton of PSB speakers:
https://youtu.be/FRr5zY-7Jsg

Lots of knowledge dropped here. Like how to avoid bad harmonics, impedance interactions between amp and speaker (which he says is what's actually responsible for the signature sound of tube amps), why bi-wiring can help, etc. He does talk quite a bit about their new speakers, but all in all more info than advertising.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on March 28, 2015, 02:29:55 PM
just surfing around the net.. and found some interesting graphs.. (en.goldenears.net)

SHURE SE846 ($1,000 range)
(http://en.goldenears.net/en/files/attach/images/108/016/030/04bcfe6902d318f2771c250326e33f4b.png)


WESTONE LABS W4R : ($400 range)
(http://en.goldenears.net/en/files/attach/images/108/511/012/45358fb33eb24fee26739833ba1a1e63.PNG)


and my beloved TF-10 (got it less then $130) b-new!
(http://en.goldenears.net/en/files/attach/images/108/627/001/60376020a0711801ee29f803a371f0d4.png)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 28, 2015, 04:32:52 PM
^ is it good to have all the sliders to the right? IMO aside from the first 3 and maybe the last it seems you might want the others to be closer to 0 for a neutral/reference sound

Still looks like an awesome deal though!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on March 30, 2015, 04:50:45 PM
^ im also not sure if going to the right side means better/good, but the sign is +5..

napansin ko din pala yung mga iem ng shure at westone ang liliit ng mga nozzle :
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608027778901348008&pid=15.1&P=0)

hindi kaya nakaka apekto sa sound stage?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 30, 2015, 11:46:25 PM
^ I have no idea how the nozzle size affects sound lol. If you like it then great!, I guess ¯\(°_o)/¯

I think they use the sliders as a way of describing the sound, not necessarily as an outright good/bad rating.

Searched for the HD800 chart since its generally agreed on as one of the best headphones available at any price. Chart seems to follow the characteristics I thought might be "good" (toward the right for item 1,2,3 and 7, toward the middle for 4,5,6):

(http://en.goldenears.net/en/files/attach/images/254/602/022/c7f1b9538f807b3f21c27ecb5f1af1aa.png)

The chart for the TF-10 makes it seem to me like a very good IEM for bassheads. Good dynamics, soft treble texture so the highs don't hurt when you crank it up and solid, boomy bass.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 12, 2015, 11:30:40 PM
I was recently in the market for a new motherboard and the Gigabyte H97 G1 Sniper H6 caught my eye because of its isolated USB DAC-UP port which is supposedly optimized for USB DACs by providing stable 5V power output and reducing signal noise. Asus provides a similar feature to all its USB ports, front and back called "TrueVolt" for its ROG line of MBs.

I couldn't find the G1 Sniper H6 locally and Asus ROG boards are too expensive and I didn't need a Z97 so I settled for the MSI H97 Gaming 3 board which features a competing feature called USB AUDIO POWER that's activated via UEFI setup menu for the 2 USB 3.0 ports next to the LAN port.

I'm using it right now and the bass is noticeably more emphasized now forcing me to lower the settings of my subwoofer a couple of notches just to balance things out.

I'm not sure if its an improvement in SQ but I didn't expect it to make such a night-and-day difference since some folks on the net dismiss it as another gimmick by MB manufacturers.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 13, 2015, 11:10:52 AM
^ the stable 5v might help some usb powed dac and amp/dac combo.
maybe, if the usb port isolates well and reduces the ground noise from the MB, your Dac can receive very clean signals
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 13, 2015, 12:33:27 PM
If I understood the literature correctly, for the Gigabyte mobos with the USB DAC-UP feature, the USB power delivery from the port can also be disabled leaving just a pure data signal that's ideal for DACs with their own power supply.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 13, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
^ if that is the case then that it awesome! but i think there should be a review with data so they can prove that
those USB features are actually doing some improvements.


Schiit products are here soooooonnnnn!!!!! :silly:

http://www.3kshop.vn/san-pham-theo-thuong-hieu?bid=95&pid=123
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 18, 2015, 01:16:16 AM
This is pretty cool! Tour of Abbey Road Studios c/o Google

https://insideabbeyroad.withgoogle.com/en/welcome
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on April 19, 2015, 09:52:36 PM
asked my gf to buy me this while she was in the US.  I think bang for the buck to :)

(http://d287ku8w5owj51.cloudfront.net/inline/products/22131/roar-big.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on May 06, 2015, 06:24:55 PM
I was recently in the market for a new motherboard and the Gigabyte H97 G1 Sniper H6 caught my eye because of its isolated USB DAC-UP port which is supposedly optimized for USB DACs by providing stable 5V power output and reducing signal noise. Asus provides a similar feature to all its USB ports, front and back called "TrueVolt" for its ROG line of MBs.

I couldn't find the G1 Sniper H6 locally and Asus ROG boards are too expensive and I didn't need a Z97 so I settled for the MSI H97 Gaming 3 board which features a competing feature called USB AUDIO POWER that's activated via UEFI setup menu for the 2 USB 3.0 ports next to the LAN port.

I'm using it right now and the bass is noticeably more emphasized now forcing me to lower the settings of my subwoofer a couple of notches just to balance things out.

I'm not sure if its an improvement in SQ but I didn't expect it to make such a night-and-day difference since some folks on the net dismiss it as another gimmick by MB manufacturers.

nice!  cool excuse to upgrade my aging pc.

trying out some gears of a friend.
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/22520_10153320336139700_7924243785955405398_n.jpg?oh=d80c4dc59eb2aee8f85eb7caeed31455&oe=55D58B20)
only the Dell Venue Pro11, iBasso DX90 and Harman Kardon CL headphones ate mine, the rest is owned by an audiophile trying out different amp and cables.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on May 10, 2015, 10:01:30 PM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/2_zpsuylexu95.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/1_zpsgof2vgvh.jpg)

gave this guy a chance, but.. it cant replace my HD600.
yung earpads nya masyadong maliit compressed masyado sa loob yung tenga ko.
at mababaw din yung earpads dikit na dikit sa driver's cover yung tenga ko.
slightly V shape yung SQ nya yung mids medyo kapos, masyadong sharp/hot yung treble.
kulang sa pagiging smooth yung over all SQ after almost 1 hour of testing medyo sumakit ulo ko :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 23, 2015, 04:54:06 AM
Anyone tried the NAD D3020/D7050? Thinking of getting one to use with the PC as a mainstay AMP/DAC.

A C316BEE used to fill this role, but I gave it to the parents after I got a C372 about two months ago. As it turns out the new amp gets hot and is a bit of a power hog so I rather not be using it all the time.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on May 23, 2015, 08:09:56 AM
Steer clear of the D3020 IMO. It's underpowered at 30W and sounds strained and compressed because of it.

I auditioned it side-be-side with the NAD C326BEE and the Rotel RA-11.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on May 30, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/10389060_10153372574974700_8123767930502576422_n.jpg?oh=1d5e49006b5892a0f502b3258756d898&oe=55ED2EDC&__gda__=1443212574_561660672256b249e285589b1a27a4b2)

finally got my AKG ;D
tried the HiFiman HE400 owned by my car audio installer... gusto ko rin ng ganun :(

we always want the one we don't own. HAHA
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 06, 2015, 01:36:16 PM
im already thinking to buy the HD-800.. i just dont know how to get an e-pass from wifey :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 06, 2015, 10:40:23 PM
Man, those cheap-ass "Nakamichi" banana plugs I bought totally ruined the SQ of my speakers. I was wondering why something seemed off with all the music I was listening to these past few weeks. The mids seemed strangely scooped and the vocals particularly sounded thin, harsh and fatiguing.

I took those plugs out and went back to bare wire connections. The full-bodied sound is back, happy listening times again.  :happy:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 08, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
im already thinking to buy the HD-800.. i just dont know how to get an e-pass from wifey :(
gooooo.  ano amp mo?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 09, 2015, 12:29:22 AM
^ i will still use my Nuforce Icon Dac, thou mixed emotion pa din ako sa pagbili, ilang beses ko na din
pinakingan pag weekend, pero parang di ma-justify yung 1,500 usd compared sa SQ ng HD600 ko..
kahit sa mga forum love or hate talaga yung SQ ng HD800
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 09, 2015, 01:50:21 AM
^ I agree it's very hard to justify spending close to P100k on headphones.
I'd spend that much, and more on speakers, but I wouldn't spend half of it on headphones.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 09, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
^ yup mahal talaga, may mga feedback din about sa quality ng paint madali mag bakbak.
saka yung parang silver screen sa ear-cup ang dali magasgas pag nahawakan or nasabit sa nails.
malambot din yung silver screen possible na ma-dent sa paghawak sa headphone. yung unit nga sa
store for audition muka ng gusgusin, and daming bakbak na paint at daming gasgas..
parang ang low quality ng build nakakahinayang gastusan ng 1000 usd :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 09, 2015, 08:38:02 PM
^ get from colorware next time they have clearance sale. Back in Jan they had some custom HD800s going for $200 less than SRP.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 09, 2015, 11:03:32 PM
^ mahirap lang kasi pag hindi local store hassle sa pagintay ng item at mas hassle pag magpapa warranty :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 11, 2015, 12:20:24 PM
im starting to read a lot about the HD800, as user's feedback the newest production with serial 29k-30k above
has better bass compared to earlier production.. OH boy.. this is going to be an expensive year! must resist!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 11, 2015, 06:42:42 PM
before getting the HD800 invest on a good amp/dac first, Mass Kobo 404 and/or Chord Hugo ;D

you won't be able to maximize that headphones entry level amplifiers.  actually you'll enjoy your hd600 with a better amp as well.

i think HD800 here in LiS costs around 50-60k.  look also into Alpha Dog Prime (or something like that) and Audeze headphones, also check HiFiMan

if you can't tell the difference, then maybe you shouldn't buy it.   the hd600 is good anyway :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 11, 2015, 10:19:00 PM
Try bringing your amp/dac when auditioning those headphones.

That's what I did to check if my amp is capable of driving the narrowed-down shortlist of speakers I was auditioning and selected the combination that sounded best. I really didn't want the speaker upgrade to turn into a money pit of further component upgrades just to get them to sound right.

If the shops allow you to do a home audition, that would have to be the best way to test the HPs with your existing setup.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 11, 2015, 10:33:06 PM
^ im still 50/50 for diving to TOTL HPs, yes my plan is to bring my laptop and icon dac to try 1st before buying.
the store is full of very kind staffs, i can even try and borrow some HDV800 and Lehmannaudio to compare the SQ :D
my only prob is.. i want to compare the old production HD800 to the newer production one, IF they already have.
and if they have im sure i cannot audition the brand new one unless i already pay for it, syempre naman
ipapagamit lang sakin yung display unit. but sure they can allow me to look at the serial number.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 12, 2015, 02:38:43 AM
I just learned that some integrated amps make great headphone amps! The Hegels in particular use a simple voltage divider so it's actually the amp's main power stage driving the phones (as opposed to just the pre section). Should make easy work of even the hardest to drive planars.

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 12, 2015, 10:24:00 AM
I really didn't want the speaker upgrade to turn into a money pit of further component upgrades just to get them to sound right.


good way of thinking.  upgrade one and you're going to upgrade everything eventually. 

I just learned that some integrated amps make great headphone amps! The Hegels in particular use a simple voltage divider so it's actually the amp's main power stage driving the phones (as opposed to just the pre section). Should make easy work of even the hardest to drive planars.


im actually tempted to get those pre-amps with headphone out. but im leaning towards those tube based.  they don't sound correct or clean, but they do sound sweet :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 12, 2015, 12:07:43 PM
you won't be able to maximize that headphones entry level amplifiers.  actually you'll enjoy your hd600 with a better amp as well.

this kind of hobby is out of this world, with regards to proper amp, dac , cables, upgrade upgrade..
as far as manufacturer's info the maximum power that the HD650 can handle is 200mW that is 7.74 volts
both HD650 and HD600 are 300 ohms so we can say that the HD600 can handle only maximum 200mW.
more than that you will damage/fry the driver or you will damage your ear. so i dont see any reason why
most people that are CAN AFFORD TYPE do recommend more power and more headroom? for what?
for me its just something to do with the MARKET, the placebo effect that the more expensive the better.
btw, the top of the line STAX and Audeze sells their product with copper cables ;D :P
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 13, 2015, 11:34:03 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11391357_768906883226386_2420317295427957530_n.jpg?oh=4c1b55105ea2cdbc23c4407696b285ca&oe=55FFD201&__gda__=1442250888_157e379c417bc209657cc5601e739d50)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11377088_768378286612579_5184242753494222236_n.jpg?oh=0af94c950c94f95b74599d21c57aec98&oe=562E19C7&__gda__=1442075982_78094d352b19fde5381d318627498e86)

OMG! now available here!!!! ready for audition!!! :silly:
(http://memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/heavy-breathing-cat.jpg)
(https://www.facebook.com/3kShop/photos/a.221988037918276.48151.211569132293500/768906883226386/?type=1)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 15, 2015, 02:30:13 AM
HE1000 comes with its own dedicated amp right?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 15, 2015, 08:40:34 AM
^ nope! the $3k price is for the HP and its box! :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 15, 2015, 01:35:05 PM
And indeed a worthier cardboard box was nowhere to be found!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 16, 2015, 10:55:48 PM
i hope that's just the shipping box.  a nicer looking box rests inside. unless it's one of those "oh you won't get a fancy box or any accessories, we've allocated the cost/budget to the product itself" marketing :)

@heishiro
to a certain extent marami ngang nahuhulog sa placebo effect.  pero meron naman improvements as you go up. 
for example

dual DAC and balanced operation: mostly for stereo separation, pero para mamaximize ito dapat balanced output ka na rin (separate ground for left and right driver), usually sa mga headphones, TRS lang, Tip, Ring, Sleeve, Tip goes to one channel, Ring goes to the other channel, Sleeve is common ground for two channels.  important din naman yung stereo separation, for  imaging. center is center, left is left, right is right (easy part), and then left center, right center, and everything in between, medyo mahirap sa headphones ito pero pagdating sa kotse or sa bahay makikita ang importance nito.  pero mahirap na rin madifferentiate ito honestly, but basically, keeping crosstal to a minimum.

a different DAC will give a different sound signature.  which is better, that we don't know. may kanya kanya naman yan eh, parang AMD/Intel, Nvidia/AMD.  basta clean signal ang binubuga, ok yun.  192/24, dsd or whatever bit depth debatable na

cables naman, basta tama ang cables na ginamit in terms of gauge/thickness, tatawid na dapat yun.  ideally kung stereo jacks (headphones), two for signal, two for ground. kung common ground, dapat dalawa pa rin ground.  as for copper vs silver, may difference din naman, one is fatter one is sharper (in general), but im not gonna spend 20k for headphone cables.  good terminals, good contact, good solder, good gauge/thickness, ok yan.  braided (personally) for aesthetics, which i like. kakaiba tingnan eh. i don't want to generalize na walang difference lahat ng cables, kasi meron naman, meron lang din talagang extremes (snake oil or transparent). 

based naman sa experience, tinry namin yung supplied headphone adapter ng AKG q701 ko and yung headphone din ng isang friend, and then aftermarket headphone adapter, yung stock, mapapansin mo na parang kulang ang tunog, and then tinry namin yung aftermarket. mas buo yung tunog, livelier. and then we checked, pareho naman 'gold' (plated) pareho naman mabibigat.  upon closer inspection, mas maganda contacts nung aftermarket. mas masikipm mafefeel mo naman pag pinapasok mo yung adapter sa plug. 

as for cable difference, Stinger ga12 (copper) vs VDH ga11 (hybrid silver), may sonic difference pero more or less same body ang tunog.  nung tinry ko yung lower end na copper (banbridge yata) dun ko narinig na parang may kulang, more on the midbass area and parang nilagyan ko ng takip yung bunganga ng singer.  yung Kia Pride ko Tchernov cables kinabit (junior/entry level), pero dun sa vios ko lower end brand na lang, pero correct gauge pa rin for the speakers. 

ang napansin ko mas solid yung pagkakagawa nung cables from Tchernov, now will there be a difference in sound, i wiill never know, mahirap mag A-B lalo na sa kotse.  but im sure the Tchernov can last longer.  so i guess aside from the placebo effect on the cables, the price premium you're paying for the branded cables is durability. :)

power naman, transients come into play.  of course there's rated power (continuous power handling), pero hindi naman consistent ang power ng mga kanta, may parts na low power, pero may mga parts na matataas.  recovery speed ng power amps during those high power peaks.  if kinakapos ka sa power, hindi makakabawi agad yung power amp section and yung drivers mo. speakers and headphones can handle higher power for a shorter period of time.  that's why they are saying headroom is needed.  hindi dahil gusto mas malakas or para mabingi ka, pero para kapag kailangan andun yung power na kailangan. :)

nobody is saying that copper is bad. :)
there are people who prefer to use copper on the tweeter, while use silver on midbass/midrange drivers. 

all these little things make a difference, but law of diminishing returns applies (heavily) on this hobby of ours.  may sulit na gears, may mga mahal na gears na minimal naman ang difference sa 'sulit' gears.  think GTX 960 vs Titan black (or whatever tawag sa TOTL ngayon).  both can play all the recent games, except the other one will let you play on 4k with all eye candy on.


p.s.  try listening again and again to Chesky's Ultimate Demonstration Disk, or EMMA CDs for critical listening :)


iBasso DX90 for me is the most cost effective DAP.  cheaper than the AK100/120 but can go head to head against those players. (UI and physical appearance of the AK is clear winner though).  will try to acquire a Senn HD650 so i can see the difference between my Q701.  HiFi Man He400 sounds better than the Q701.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 17, 2015, 11:45:04 AM
^ hehe shipping box lang yun, merong magandang box yung HE1000.

Thanks for the great input papi dom, ideally all those amp and dac should sound clean and neutral.
otherwise there should be a good explanation from the manufacturer. like HD800 if you will use with
dark sounding amp then parang nawala na yung reason bakit mo binili yung HD800. i also think
that each headphone are created and tuned by the manufacturer to target the consumer that are
looking for specific tonality. kung gusto ng consumer ng ma-bass, neutral or bright headphone dapat
yung ganung tonality din ang marinig nila after dac and amp process the sound.
yung comment din ng iba sa HDV800, sabi nila hindi daw proper amp para sa HD800 sa pangdinig
nila boring at lifeless, but IMO the HDV800 should/must produce a flat frequency that will match
the flat frequency of the HD800. how do you actually expect a boom-boom sub-bass to HD800?
1st, open back, 2nd it is made to produce as flat as possible tonality. so minsan tingin ko ang sablay
din eh yung consumer.. hindi nila alam anu yung binibili nila pero may expectation sila.

about sa amp headroom medyo mahirap din talaga i-compute para masabi na sapat na or hindi.
like 4gig vs 8 gig vs 16gig vs 32 gig na ram na pwede mag benchmark and with proper conclusion.
walang kasing application para sa audio na magcocompute kung ok na ba talaga yung amp o hindi.
kaya tingin ko napupunta nalang sa the more expensive the better kasi din naman yung mga amp
na malalakas talaga that can produce 10v-15v eh nasa top category kaya mahal.

i also think that iBasso DX90 is one of the best sounding dap out there, medyo 2 minded lang ako kasi sa
mga nababasa ko sa forums na BS yung internal software daming sabit pero siguro naman
naglalabas ng update yung ibasso para mafix yung bugs
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 17, 2015, 02:13:00 PM
@heishiro

actually medyo gray area nga talaga ang amp.  kasi eitherway tutunog naman at tutunog yan. haha!

ito naisip ko, rough guide:
establish your listening levels, then go up 6dB, if hindi kaya ng amp (distortion, kailangan ng distortion detector though, usually sa signal level).  kung kaya with the +6dB edi ok na ok ka na.  medyo tricky though, kasi logarithmic yata ang relationship ng W and dB :D  +3dB = x10 watts already.  or parang ganun.

aside from W, check mo rin topology. of course stay away from class B, class AB is good, class D/T-amps are catching up (happy with my B&O ice power) and of course classA (mosfets or tube).

as for synergy and preference, tama ka.  madali lang naman gumawa ng flat signal, lalo na kung may RTA ka.  pero hindi naman tayo lahat parepareho ng perception ng sound. yung ibang tenga pagod na, yung iba naman ultra sensitive. purely subjective. kaya masakit sa ulo.  usually ang reklamo ko sa set-up ng iba, bitin vocals pero ang talas/lakas masyado sa highs.  ang napapansin ko sensitive ako at 2-2.5kHz and 4-8kHz, tapos wala na ako marinig after 16kHz. @_@

there's a reason why the Yamaha NS10 is very popular for sound engineers. it's not the best speakers at all, far from flat (based on RTAs) pero pasok sa tenga ng karamihan ng mga tao. alam ko may article about it why it's the go to speakers for producers back then. :)

ok yung iBasso DX90 sa akin so far. no playback issues at all (except for delayed sa windows if acting as DAC). 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 17, 2015, 03:53:25 PM
^ yup you can also do that testing, kung +6 db at wala ka namang naririnig na distortion
i think pwede na, ako naman sa spec tumitingin, kung max 200mw like HD600 then yung
amp can procedure 200mw or above pwede na, kasi yung max 200mw sobrang lakas na
nun either masira na yung driver sa sobrang lakas or masira na tenga.

pero ibang usapan pag planar na.. they can hande up to 2000mw @ 35/50 ohm.
minimum na talaga yung 10v para sa planar. yung HD800 nasa 500mw max sya @ 300 ohm..
ohhh nose.. bitin na bitin yung Icon dac ko! :lol: thou tutunog naman sya pero ang layu
sa spec 12v ang kaylangan.. minimum Valhalla 2 / Lyr2 or something more expensive pa

edit : i also check kung lalagpas sa 50% yung volume for my normal listening.
kung nasa 40-50% tapos malakas na, then for me ok na. minsan kasi nasa 70-80% na
yung volume knob pero mahina pa din i think under power ung amp
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: i2mp on June 17, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
anyone using Fiio E12 or E17?  Pareho kasi ng price online, I'm assuming mas ok yung E17?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 17, 2015, 05:25:17 PM
^ saan mo gagamitin bro? yung E12 kasi full amplifier lang sya at ang lakas ng output : 880 mW @ 32 Ω
yung E17 naman dac + amp combo, pwede din stand alone na amp. btw mas bago yung ALPEN 2-E17K
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 17, 2015, 07:50:16 PM
magkano mga fiio ngayon?
and saan mo gagamitin?

@heishiro
and the itch begins. HAHA joke lang.
basta pasado pa sa listening volumes mo, then ok na yan. :)

isa sa pinaka magandang config ko sa Celestion 9 ko is SMSL 36A T-amp.   that's 18W/ch for a 100w speaker :)
pero yun nga, pag nag-eenjoy na ako, at napupusuan kong lakasan ang volume, dun kinakapos. pero kung high energy part ng music lang, kinakaya pa. :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: i2mp on June 17, 2015, 11:36:49 PM
both $99 each yung fiio E12 and E17.  Was gona use it with my tablets and smartphone.  Akala ko both has DAC, haha yung E17 lang kasi nabasa kong specs.  Medyo marami na rin akong nakolektang headsets pero hindi kasing ganda nung sa inyo haha. Just wana see the improvement using the DAC.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 18, 2015, 11:03:08 AM
both $99 each yung fiio E12 and E17.  Was gona use it with my tablets and smartphone.  Akala ko both has DAC, haha yung E17 lang kasi nabasa kong specs.  Medyo marami na rin akong nakolektang headsets pero hindi kasing ganda nung sa inyo haha. Just wana see the improvement using the DAC.

check mo muna if your tablet and smartphone are compatible with the DAC function of the E17 (also if its better than the ones on your phone). pero eitherway, feeling ko mas sulit yung E17 since it works as a DAC as well (even for your PC).  not the best DAC out there but at least it'll let your process 96/24 (via usb) or 192/24 via coax. or ipon ka na for DAP ;D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 19, 2015, 09:39:11 AM
@dom,
the itch for a new HP is running into my veins! haha
ok na sana yung gastos para sa HD800 carry na, pero yung gastos nanaman
sa bagong amp medyo mahirap na ipaglaban kay misis :lol:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 19, 2015, 12:31:37 PM
before giving into temptation, make sure you've tried Alpha Prime, Audeze LCD-x, Beyerdynamic T1 :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 19, 2015, 05:53:49 PM
@dom, ilang hours tinatagal na play time ng DX90 mo?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 26, 2015, 08:57:47 AM
@dom, ilang hours tinatagal na play time ng DX90 mo?

di ko natitime, pero good enough for long drives on my way to shoot locations and back. :) so 4-8 hours yun, better yata if you get the Samsung battery (+ charger) pero so far hindi ko naman kinailangan :)

here's an update for my car audio
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_0356_zpsiyvz3kcu.jpg) (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/domdycaico/media/ICE%20-%20Vios/DOM_0356_zpsiyvz3kcu.jpg.html)
flac 192/24 compatible, i think that's a first for car audio hehe
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 26, 2015, 02:52:10 PM
^ congratz sa bagong car gadget mo!
im now thinking to upgrade my Dap, still waiting for more review for Fiio X5 2nd gen Vs Dx90
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 26, 2015, 05:05:29 PM
ano upgrades nung FIIO x5 gen2? is the DAC better than the DX90? :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on June 26, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
actually same dac as teh OLD :lol:
iba pa din talaga performance ng dual dac like Dx90 yung battery life lang talaga ang di ko masikmura hehe
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on June 26, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
actually same dac as teh OLD :lol:
iba pa din talaga performance ng dual dac like Dx90 yung battery life lang talaga ang di ko masikmura hehe

nothing a 2nd batt will solve.  ;) you don't listen to music that long. parang mga current cellphone lang yan. hehehe
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: alikishi on June 27, 2015, 07:47:50 AM
can someone enlighten me on DACs, AMPs, etc? I want to learn what these things do :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: i2mp on July 02, 2015, 02:23:57 AM
all my gadgets (including android phones and tablets) are compatible with my E17 (by usb not just AUX), got improved sound quality with my harmankardon headset.  :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 02, 2015, 12:19:54 PM
can someone enlighten me on DACs, AMPs, etc? I want to learn what these things do :)

here's a rough idea for digital audio workflow. :)

file/storage medium (audioCD/mp3/flac etc.)
transport (player) - reads the digital file converts to a digtal signal
DAC - (digital to analog converter) converts digital signal to analog signal (line level)
amplifier - amplifies line level signal to drive the drivers(speakers/headphones)
drivers - speakers/headphones - converts analog signals into pulses that alters air making waves (or something to that effect. haha)

ipods computers and most daps has a storage medium, transport, dac, amplifier.  there are cd players that are transport only.  while our computers or ipods has built-in dac/soundcard, other people choose to use a different DAC for better sound. 


all my gadgets (including android phones and tablets) are compatible with my E17 (by usb not just AUX), got improved sound quality with my harmankardon headset.  :)
congrats bro!! what's your Harman/Kardon headset? I have the CL and got my girlfriend the SOHO, they sound great.  :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: i2mp on July 02, 2015, 12:29:18 PM
dom,
I got the CL too, 2 yrs na siguro when I bought it 50% off. 😁
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on July 02, 2015, 08:48:06 PM
i think this is relevant but some may be offended:

an Audiophile perspective, yes, there is a difference ... a rant (http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1285845)

Quote
Quote:
I'm pretty sure the sound properties from one system are measurably different from those of another system.

For transducers (phono pickups, loudspeakers, headphones), sure. For electronics? While measurable differences do exist they are far below human ability to discern.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Louie on July 02, 2015, 09:22:20 PM
So your dog will love your killer sound setup then :D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 02, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
^ I read one review of some super high-end speakers where the highlight of the article was how it fooled the writer's dog into thinking there were real people in his room and the dog started barking at these virtual people! I've never seen a dog fooled by anything coming out of any stereo, so that shit must've been super good.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Louie on July 02, 2015, 10:32:00 PM
If it fooled the dog then, yeah, I agree
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on July 03, 2015, 06:16:56 AM
the dog is more likely to hear the difference between amp A & amp B or DAC A & DAC B unless one of them was purposefully designed to color the sound in some way.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on July 03, 2015, 07:05:41 AM
I read a paper that said compressed/lossy audio and video is actually good for the brain as its forced to "fill in" the missing parts.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 03, 2015, 10:25:35 AM
^ I'm not too sure about DACs, but IMO you can definitely hear the difference between two AMPs. One problem is how most measurements are done. Typically they'd measure the outputs using sine waves against constant 8, 4 and 2 ohm loads, but IRL speakers are far from constant load, and the impedance curve is just that, a curve that constantly changes along with the frequency, and goes into pretty steep peaks and/or valleys at the crossover points.

Stereophile does this right with their "simulated speaker load", where they measure frequency response against uneven resistance, and you can see the differences are indeed measurable:

(http://i.imgur.com/7wbCnxK.jpg)
So this is the frequency response plot of the NAD D3020 (http://www.stereophile.com/content/nad-d-3020-integrated-amplifier-measurements), a cheap but highly recommended desktop DAC+AMP. As you can see the colored traces representing constant 8/4/2 ohm loads are pretty well behaved, but on the gray trace plotting the simulated speaker load there is an amount of deflection from what would be "flat", or "neutral", and this is typically what causes bass response to sound "bloated".

(http://i.imgur.com/Ym8ylJT.jpg)
Here we have the Hegel H160 (http://www.stereophile.com/content/hegel-music-systems-h160-integrated-amplifier-measurements), a significantly more powerful (and expensive) DAC+AMP. Ignoring the extended bandwidth since we can't really hear above 20kHz, you can see the amount of deflection brought about by the simulated speaker load is much smaller compared to the 30wpc D3020. This, from what I know comes from an increased "damping factor (https://www.google.com/search?q=damping+factor)", which is most easily bought by wattage. The smaller amount of deflection is what causes reviewers to say that response was "tight".

So a lot of amps tend to "measure" the same, but there are differences when they are mated to real-world loads, i.e. actual loudspeakers. The differences become more pronounced the harder a speaker is to drive, and there are models out there rated 8 ohms that actually dip to 2 ohms or close to it at certain frequencies.

If anyone wants to do listening tests I actually have two amps at home from the same manufacturer (NAD), 40WPC and 150WPC. The sound signature is the same, but on some music (typically bassy stuff with fast transiets) you can definitely hear the difference even at low volume levels.

We can also do headphone outputs from i-device with and without a power amp, and through two different amps (basically the pre-sections of my two NAD amps, since I'm not really into mobile stuff).
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 03, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
i might be burying myself deeper, but here are my thoughts.

the dog is more likely to hear the difference between amp A & amp B or DAC A & DAC B unless one of them was purposefully designed to color the sound in some way.

i think this statement is important.  different manufacturers 'color' their items differently from others (Dynaudio may be warm to neutral while Focals sound bright, etc etc.), and i think that's what makes it some people prefer one set-up from the other. 

knowing your preference is also important.  but it is also worth noting that if you've been listening to the same set-up for a long time, you might end up getting used to it, and listening to a different gear/set-up (not necessarily superior nor inferior) you might end up liking that 'new' sound.

gears can help you objectively check your equipment, like finding distortion but your RTA or your FFT graphs won't be able to tell which one is better, because im sure as hell that a perfectly flat RTA reading doesn't sound exciting or at least correct (at least for me).  now which graph would sound good? That depends on the listener.  It's hard to check sound stage, height and width, imaging/focus (i think there are gears for that, but you'll need a mic that's designed to mimic the position of human ears to check.  (focus and imaging is easier to compare, vs stage height and width) 

Untrained ears would have a harder time to distinguish out of phase and in phase set-up (not sure if absoulte phase has anything to do with sound quality), but this is the make or break for imaging and focus. finer details like speaker distance and angle also give difference, if one speaker is closer than the other (which means it doesn't make an isosceles triangle) then you might bump into issues as well.

There are many different factors in affecting sound, getting the gears is one thing, but you also need to have a good room treatment, proper speaker placement, proper cable connections, and good clean power source.  Speakers affect air from all directions, the entire box vibrates (if you put a stand directly below the speaker, you prohibit the vibration of the floor the speaker which can affect sound as well),  Sound projected by the speaker isn't restricted to front of the speaker but it goes all around the speaker (try standing behind a pair of speaker, and you'll still hear the sound), these are reflected to your walls and then you get to hear these as well.  the list goes on.  The point is you also have to consider installation, a lot of amazing high end gears put to waste if proper installation isn't followed, which gives the impression that high end gears or low end gears sound the same.  Higher end gears give higher potential to sound good (high end gears doesn't automatically mean you get better sound), but keep in mind that law of diminishing returns applies (heavily) on audio gears, and then there's these ridiculously mythical gears. 

Get the gears that match each other and match your preference.  And look for the set-up that won't make you feel tired after a couple of hours of listening, something that will want you to listen to it some more.

here's a suggestion, don't train your ears and brain to do critical listening (checking depth, focus, imaging, etc. etc.) (check EMMA Competition disks or Chesky's Ultimate Demonstration Disk.  Though it helps you in tuning your whole system, it might take away the joy of listening as you realize the weakness of your set-up, and the itch begins. 

p.s.  there are no 3Dmark or whatever benchmark to compare or rank each system, it all boils down to the preference of the listener.  the average consumer won't be able to discern or pinpoint the difference between a 10k system, 50k system, 200k or even 5m system, one of those system will be more inviting (attract the listener to listen to more music) than the other. 

I read a paper that said compressed/lossy audio and video is actually good for the brain as its forced to "fill in" the missing parts.

that's interesting. those gaps though consciously  unnoticeable, the unconscious part of you  will notice it and try to compensate. probably they can consider that an exercise to the brain.


of course all of these are just words that doesn't mean anything unless you experience it with your own ears.

I would like you guys to visit Listening in Style in Shang, go to the right most room where the flagship models stand, and give it a listen.  Or I can let you guys let you listen to my iPod and iBasso DX90 using either my Harman Kardon or AKG headphones or even my car.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 03, 2015, 12:15:50 PM
the discussion reminds of the matrix test
http://matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm (http://matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm)


(http://matrixhifi.com/imagenes/ppecTD.gif)


Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 03, 2015, 05:12:22 PM
^ goes to show that money should be put into the stuff that matters.

IMO the two things that really make a difference in sound are
1) quality of the speakers
2) power of the amp

The cheap Behringer amp they used for the low-end system is 300W, vs 80W for the classe. IMO power is far more important than high-end for the sake of being high-end. DACs kinda sort matter, but as long as it's not electrically noisy (i.e. not your motherboard's on-board audio) even the cheap stuff has distortion far below human detectability.


Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 10, 2015, 01:55:56 AM
impulse buy #824821370 (silver item on the photo)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10409788_10153486012074700_8467068371945952800_n.jpg?oh=cc0ef5198338d1aaed2568ad188026df&oe=561F731A&__gda__=1444385103_9f5093625ecfd9be17f813a3600497d1)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 10, 2015, 12:04:12 PM
^ that thing deserve a night shots! :silly:
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 14, 2015, 12:02:02 AM
ako din impulse buy.  nakatiyempo din ng something really beefy.
http://audio-database.com/SANSUI/amp/au-alpha907lextra-e.html

(http://s8.postimg.org/osvoxagx1/IMG_20150713_232732.jpg)




this now powers the B&W 602 






The former pioneer amp is now powering the Walfedale 9.4.  Tagal ko nang hindi nariring etong warf ko (nakatago/hindi ginagamit) for a long long time.  They do sound really really good; you just need a beefy amp.  The guys who decides on market price for Warf must be idiots; I feel I paid too little money for something that sounds this good.   >:D
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 14, 2015, 02:32:27 AM
^ Sweet amp! On PDVD users say Sansui is a great match with B&W, supposedly even better than Rotels.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 14, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
The sansui was in really great condition which just made parting w/ my moolah a lot easier :)   




comparing amps, the signature of the B&Ws didn't really change.  Still same bias as always.    With the sansui though obviously w/ more power its really a lot more dynamic at lower SPL. 

I heard some infinitys while amp hunting.  They sound really good, different bias than my current speakers; maybe in the way of what monitor audios goes for.  Thinking of getting bookshelves.  May be a 2.1 setup next time around.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: mC_Crunk on July 16, 2015, 01:57:41 AM
@all


Mga master ask ko lang kung may alam ba kayo na pwede magpa-repair ng iem? Biglang humina yung right ng iem ko. Btw, i'm using EarSonic SM3 v2.


TiA!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 16, 2015, 09:08:58 AM
ako din impulse buy.  nakatiyempo din ng something really beefy.
http://audio-database.com/SANSUI/amp/au-alpha907lextra-e.html

(http://s8.postimg.org/osvoxagx1/IMG_20150713_232732.jpg)




this now powers the B&W 602 






The former pioneer amp is now powering the Walfedale 9.4.  Tagal ko nang hindi nariring etong warf ko (nakatago/hindi ginagamit) for a long long time.  They do sound really really good; you just need a beefy amp.  The guys who decides on market price for Warf must be idiots; I feel I paid too little money for something that sounds this good.   >:D

Good buy! Magkano score mo? :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 16, 2015, 06:26:47 PM
@dom a reasonable 40k
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 18, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
too d@mn impulsive for my own good.  Infinity RS6000.  Something about these EMIT tweeters.  They sound so sharp and clean.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/1zd6o8y.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on July 20, 2015, 10:50:50 PM
too d@mn impulsive for my own good.  Infinity RS6000.  Something about these EMIT tweeters.  They sound so sharp and clean.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/1zd6o8y.jpg)
benta na ba yung B&W? HAHA
ribbon tweeters?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on July 21, 2015, 01:56:05 AM
haha.  I don't think I'm going to be in the biz of selling the audio stuff I acquire.  (yep ribbons)

On the other hand the home theater stuff I had I was more than happy to let go as it turns out I'm perfectly happy not having rear speakers, center, sub, receiver etc. 

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 21, 2015, 03:34:56 AM
A concert DVD I ordered came in today. Got super stoked, started watching and.... AWFUL MIDBASS BLOOM!
Spent the next couple of hours tweaking speaker position, moving furniture and sound deadening. Nothing helped.
Plugged in headphones.... It's still there! Turns out the disc itself was badly recorded lol.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 02, 2015, 07:43:35 AM
My 3rd Sony Dap :)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/n1_zpsxzlvclug.jpg)

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/n2_zpsl0ipc6ky.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 09, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
kamusta difference? hi-res?  24/192? or higher pa?

impulse buy on speakers again. trying it out, ganda rin. :)

(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/domdycaico/Room%20Theatre/D8C151B8-BEF9-41AC-A0B6-11A823CC50D9_zpsd1in7o6d.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 09, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
^ medyo mahirap mag compare, meron kasing 16 bit lang pero maganda pagkaka convert.
dapat same na song talaga para marinig mo yung pagkakaiba, yung palo/bagsak ng instruments
pati pag pronounce ng words, yung mga extra detail pa. i think dipende din sa headphone or iem
kung makakapag produce ng mas madaming detail. kinda hirap din makahanap ng 24/192 at Dsd's.
killer deal, less than $450 ko lang sya nabili :D sobrang laki pala ng 128gb di man lang umabot sa
30gb mga kanta ko, thou pinili ko na lang yung mga pinakikingan ko talaga. minsan kasi next-next
lang din sa pagpindot di naman lahat ng kanta sa album eh gusto ko pakingan
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 10, 2015, 12:42:58 AM
Carver and SVS?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: athlonFan on November 10, 2015, 03:32:51 AM
any recommendations? I'd like to have a simple audio setup, it's a small condo, 30sqm so I'm looking for something I can plug my phone when playing music or the tv when I watch some movies.

Not particular sa surround sound, I guess a 2.0 (floor standers or anything) will do.  I currently use a Creative Gigaworks T40 II, i find the bass part and the power output lacking maybe because of the lack of subs.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 10, 2015, 09:33:41 AM
NAD D3020 (http://www.whathifi.com/nad/d-3020/review) + B&W 685 S2 (http://www.whathifi.com/bw/685-s2/review) or Q Acoustics 3050 (http://www.whathifi.com/q-acoustics/3050/review)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 10, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
any recommendations? I'd like to have a simple audio setup, it's a small condo, 30sqm so I'm looking for something I can plug my phone when playing music or the tv when I watch some movies.

Not particular sa surround sound, I guess a 2.0 (floor standers or anything) will do.  I currently use a Creative Gigaworks T40 II, i find the bass part and the power output lacking maybe because of the lack of subs.


We got a Harman Kardon Sabre35 para sa guest room ng family house ng gf ko. Ok naman. Wireless sub, bluetooth for the phone, optical for the tv. :) may app din. Hehe

Carver and SVS?
SVS M-series yung main ko, Carver 5.0 (from 5.1 set) yung impulse buy. Just tried the carver bookshelf, ok din!!!
Baka gawin ko na lang surround yung carver, para straight svs na yung front. Hehe.

Im tempted to upgrade my Harman Kardon AVR635 to Denon 4810, what do you think?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on November 10, 2015, 10:09:43 AM
any recommendations? I'd like to have a simple audio setup, it's a small condo, 30sqm so I'm looking for something I can plug my phone when playing music or the tv when I watch some movies.

Not particular sa surround sound, I guess a 2.0 (floor standers or anything) will do.  I currently use a Creative Gigaworks T40 II, i find the bass part and the power output lacking maybe because of the lack of subs.


We got a Harman Kardon Sabre35 para sa guest room ng family house ng gf ko. Ok naman. Wireless sub, bluetooth for the phone, optical for the tv. :) may app din. Hehe

Carver and SVS?
SVS M-series yung main ko, Carver 5.0 (from 5.1 set) yung impulse buy. Just tried the carver bookshelf, ok din!!!
Baka gawin ko na lang surround yung carver, para straight svs na yung front. Hehe.

Im tempted to upgrade my Harman Kardon AVR635 to Denon 4810, what do you think?



Go lang, tapos post mo agad sa PDVD yung pinaglumaan. Basta presyong adik hehe.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 10, 2015, 10:28:06 AM

Go lang, tapos post mo agad sa PDVD yung pinaglumaan. Basta presyong adik hehe.
Actually thinking of selling the ff:
B&W 630i, CC6s2, Harman Kardon AVR635 all for 20k.  Pandagdag sa Denon HAHA
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: athlonFan on November 10, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
I'm sorry but i wasn't able to specify that my budget is around 12k. Let me check those recommendations :) thanks
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 10, 2015, 06:39:43 PM
lol so my previous post was way over budget. Would have run you more than 50k for either option.

Second hand market I guess?

Old Sony integrated amp from when Sony was awesome (3.6k - 5k):
http://www.olx.ph/item/sony-ta-f333es-integrated-amplifier-ID6ZUMl.html
http://www.olx.ph/item/sony-integrated-stereo-amplifier-248-watts-ta-f333es-ID6ORFT.html
http://www.olx.ph/item/sony-integrated-amplifier-ta-f500-145-watts-ID6ORLY.html

Wharfedale towers still made in England (6.5k - 7k):
http://www.olx.ph/item/wharfedale-diamond-8-4-ID6ZYZ9.html
http://www.olx.ph/item/wharfedale-speaker-floor-standing-ID6OWRb.html
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 14, 2015, 01:07:18 AM
i tried watching a movie again with my HarmanKardon-SVS speakers.  just having an upgrade itch, di muna ako mag-uupgrade. unless meron sa inyo gusto? hahaha puwede naman audition, hahaha.

@athlonfan

you might want to consider this. saw it just now
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,203804.0.html

get a good bookshelf and you're set. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: popoy on November 14, 2015, 10:53:18 AM
@dom_08
dami na ng collection mu.  Ano ung katabi nung bookshelf?  piano finish na floor stander?



I bought an onkyo CDP recently.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 14, 2015, 11:38:33 AM
@dom_08
dami na ng collection mu.  Ano ung katabi nung bookshelf?  piano finish na floor stander?



I bought an onkyo CDP recently.

good to know you're still giving love to CDs.  kahit na may flac collection ako, iba pa rin ang CD. hehehe
Floorstanders yung main ko. SVS MTS-02 (kapartner niya yung MCS-02 and MBS-02) kaso yung bookshelf di ko pa nalalagay sa likod, nakabox pa.  hirap gawan ng mount for rear speakers. hehe. 


while looking for a good media player upgrade, came across this:
http://shield.nvidia.com/android-tv

pero di na compatible sa Harman Kardon ko, kasi wala nang Optical or Coax out. HDMI 2.0 lang. @_@  seen it work with a 4k lgtv and it looks amazing with pro cameras shot on 4k. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 15, 2015, 12:22:34 AM
Fun at the HiFi show!

@dom_08
Shield makes a great media player!

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on November 15, 2015, 06:38:04 AM
I've been interested in the Shield Android TV ever since I saw it reviewed at another forum and found that it is available locally for P12.5K. I have the same problem as dom though as I have an ancient HK which has no hdmi.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on November 15, 2015, 06:57:03 AM
Damn! I couldn't attend this year's Hi-Fi show because I'm out-of-town and I've been thinking of buying a new amp with a smaller footprint for my desktop setup. :(
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 27, 2015, 08:38:16 AM
Bass test anyone? How low does your gear go? How low can you hear?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8gjsefNYpE

2.1 system (cheapo soundbar + sub): 40Hz
2.0 system (PSB + NAD): 32Hz
headphones (Polk Ultrafocus): 21Hz

The headphone result was probably limit of my hearing at the volume I ran the test at, the phones are specified as 8Hz - 28kHz. I understand sub-20Hz stuff can still be felt if not heard but I don't have a proper sub at the moment and it's a bit hard to get that feel from headphones lol.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 27, 2015, 09:02:58 AM
i love this walkman! sobrang smooth ng tunog ni TF-10 with this Dap.
nawala yung pagka sibilant ng high, merong mga tracks na masyadong ma-SSSSS yung vocals
to be specific Michael Bublé and David Pomeranz.

 (http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/d1_zpsljbdkgdu.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 27, 2015, 10:44:54 AM
Saw that at the HiFi show! They had it connected digitally to an active variant of the MDR-1 that also had a built in DAC.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 27, 2015, 10:49:48 AM
^ did you try the Dap? yung price ng ZX100 sa PH sobrang mahal.. dito sa VN around $450 lang
pinaka mura na ata yun around the Globe.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 27, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
Yup. Tried it with the MDR-1ADAC and my own headphones. Good player, but it is kinda pricey over here.
Also thought it is rather redundant to have a DAP and then have another DAC+AMP in the cans.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 27, 2015, 11:31:36 AM
^ yup! sablay yung nag market bakit yun ang ginamit na HP ;D
dito kasi yung magandang HP at Iem ng Sony ang pang audition MDR-Z7 at XBA-A3.
mas ma-appreciate sana ng tao yung ganda ng tunog nung Dap/HP/iem.

sa price na 29k pesos/$600 honestly sobrang mahal ng ZX100.. the features are also
very limited. Sony OS, no wifi, not touch screen, just a plain hi-res music player with 128gb memory.
kaya ko lang naman sya binili dahil mababa ang price dito at plain Dap lang ang need ko.
sa price na $600 mas ok pa na mag LG V10 nalang. complete package ka pa mobile/dap.

edit : i also test the stamina of this Dap, anyone can guess how long it last to play 16/44 flac?
ok no need to guess, 66 hours straight! break that record AK!!!!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 27, 2015, 12:39:48 PM
IMO they should have used the MDR-1ADAC with some cheap Android phone, to show off the internal DAC+AMP to full advantage.

It loses big time in battery life though. specs page (http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-1adac#product_details_default) says "8 hours of battery life" loool

ZX100 still needs a price cut, IMO. At the price I'd pick the AK JR over it every time.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 27, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
Sound wise Ok na Ok para saakin yung ZX100 pero pagdating sa feature mas lamang pa mga
Chinese daps like Ibasso and Fiio, you can use them as desktop amp/dac + line out function.
itong Sony kasi kaylangan pa ng special cable para sa LO, thou meron naman ako pero mas
preferred ko yung simple 3.5 jack at mas masaya mag DIY ng interconnects. Until now wala pa
din akong makitang polished review ng ZX100, yung SRP price nya kasi mag dadalawang isip ka talaga.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on November 27, 2015, 04:30:20 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0126HISOO

USD $95, use my shipping box or johnnyaircargo to ship to PH.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 28, 2015, 09:27:38 AM
That is a sweet deal!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on November 28, 2015, 09:18:11 PM
Lipat bahay...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/Desktop-Hifi_zpsmoapvwgi.png)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 28, 2015, 09:23:19 PM
kef bookshelf and svs subs <3
nice stac avr.

na-ooc ako, gusto ko ilagay sa gitna ng dalwang wood panel yung table mo. haha


[/font][/size]http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0126HISOO (http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0126HISOO)USD $95, use my shipping box or johnnyaircargo to ship to PH.
[/font][/size]sulit! half the price sa local shops :)




tried my DX90 after not using it for a few weeks.  still don't like the sound i got from it. upgrade itch is starting. HAHA
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 30, 2015, 12:44:10 PM
tried my DX90 after not using it for a few weeks.  still don't like the sound i got from it. upgrade itch is starting. HAHA

mag DX80 ka nalang :D wait mo lang maging Ok yung firmware
for me upgrade syang matatawag since umaabot naman daw ng more than 10 hours
yung battery life.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 30, 2015, 01:25:24 PM
kef bookshelf and svs subs <3
nice stac avr.

Nice amp as well! C326?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on November 30, 2015, 01:38:17 PM
kef bookshelf and svs subs <3
nice stac avr.

Nice amp as well! C326?

Thanks. Yes it is.

Honestly, I didn't expect the 326 to match well with the LS50 with only 50wpc, but it did.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 30, 2015, 04:21:47 PM
tried my DX90 after not using it for a few weeks.  still don't like the sound i got from it. upgrade itch is starting. HAHA

mag DX80 ka nalang :D wait mo lang maging Ok yung firmware
for me upgrade syang matatawag since umaabot naman daw ng more than 10 hours
yung battery life.
Wala naman akong naging problema sa firmware ng DX90 ko.
Don't think malaking improvement din yung DX80 from DX90. 
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 30, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
Wala naman akong naging problema sa firmware ng DX90 ko.
Don't think malaking improvement din yung DX80 from DX90. 
well kinda hindi nga SQ wise, or Sony X2?
just dont jump to AK bandwagon they are too over priced.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 01, 2015, 12:05:43 AM
Honestly, I didn't expect the 326 to match well with the LS50 with only 50wpc, but it did.

NAD watts are good big watts! Also their warm, bottom-up sound matches well with the LS50's slightly tilted-up treble.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 04, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
Skip the portable players and get an iPhone 6?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-6-plus.htm#measurements

Quote

    Holy cow; I tested a Beyerdynamic A200p DAC and headphone amp at the same time I had the iPhone 6 Plus in my audio lab, and the iPhone 6 Plus beat it! The iPhone 6 Plus has less distortion, flatter frequency response and much better ability to drive low-impedance headphones with low distortion than the dedicated portable amp!

    While all iOS devices have always sounded great if you have good transfers, the audio output of the iPhone 6 Plus is now so improved that it sounds and measures about as well as professional reference DACs like the Benchmark DAC1 HDR, and better than many consumer DACs.

    The iPhone 6 Plus even has flatter response than the Benchmark DAC1 HDR! Of course an iPhone and a plug-in-the-wall professional DAC are intended for entirely different pupposes, but if the 1 volt RMS output (6 dB less than good outboard DACs and CD players) and 3.5mm jack do it for you, there's no reason not to use the iPhone's output for critical listening.

    The iPhone 6 is a better analog audio source than many audiophile products, but the cottage industry created around selling you DACs and other accessories you don't need doesn't want you to know. Remember that accessory dealers, manufacturers and publications that accept advertising from these makers have a vested interest in trying to create FUD about the iPhone's audio quality. Don't beleive them and listen for yourself.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on December 04, 2015, 09:25:53 PM
Skip the portable players and get an iPhone 6?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-6-plus.htm#measurements (http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-6-plus.htm#measurements)

Cool, my iPhone 6 does indeed sound one of the best of all the phones I've ever owned along with the Samsung Galaxy S with Voodoo Sound installed.

I've never been sold on exotic DAPs and bulky add-on portable dacs/amps since I prefer everything consolidated into one multi-function gadget when listening on-the-go.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 05, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
Sadly my 6+ it can't drive my AKG Q701, but then again the DX90 isn't much of an improvement. On a side note, the iPhone matches well with my Harman Kardon CL.

Also since iPhone5, I enjoy 192/24 on my car via P99RS HU. Bypass the iPhone DAC and uses it's own (although old gen) DAC 192/24 capable.  Big sound improvement or not, i have no idea.  HAHAHA



Quick survey i have approval to  upgrade my Harman Kardon 635 (either that or upgrade the Vios headlights to Eagle Eyes brand.

Narrowed down my choices to:
Denon 4810 (hopefully this one is still available)
Denon x2200
Onkyo 636 (i think)

The Denon 4810 is a classic and almost flagship or at least looks flagship, the next two are new Atmos and DTS:X ready (when available).
I'm using SVS speakers and MikeC suggested that I go for Denon (or Yamaha) as it matches well with SVS.

Right now i only have 5.1 installed on my room, but all in all i can easily do a 9.1 set-up 5 SVS up front  and use the Carver for Surround and Surround Back.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 26, 2016, 08:58:12 PM
I really can't stand the clicks and pops of digital vinyl rips. Its quite distracting and I keep on thinking that the playback is glitching.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on April 06, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
Decided to get a pair of headphones for office use since taking the triple.fi's in and out of my ears every time someone would talk to me is becoming a PITA. Found a good deal on OLX for a slightly used m50x and decided to go for it.

Audio Technica ATH-M50x + Fiio Alpen E17:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1708/25982859540_7431415401_z.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 06, 2016, 03:13:35 PM
I have to say, the M50X sounded awesome in my experience. Hearing it for the first time was truly a revelation as it was my first real hi-fi headphone. It even forced me to upgrade my speakers because the old ones suddenly sounded lame in comparison.

Sadly, I had to let go of my M50X because I couldn't use it for more than 30 minutes due to discomfort issues with my earlobes and clamping force.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on April 06, 2016, 04:11:34 PM
^yeah I agree. SQ is definitely great specially at its price-point.

I'm surprised you had problems with the clamping force. From what I read, it was one of the things they fixed from the M50. No problems on my end with the clamping force. I guess the only thing I want to change/try out would be velour ear pads since my ears tend to get a little warm while using the stock pads.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on July 02, 2016, 10:09:49 AM
got my M50x for almost a week now, they sound really good for the price of $145 brand new.
i didnt expect to hear this wide soundstage coming from a close headphone. the sub bass is
truly amazing and goes very deep, high is also great in detail and very well extended.
easy to drive, good isolation, build like a tank. i think the only cons is the comfort, it gets warm
just after 3-5 mins of use, thou it doesnt bother me that much.

so far things went good to my line up. HD600 for better listening and true hi-fi sound.
M50x for portability and boom-boom bass music. Tf-10 for travel and more portable.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 07, 2016, 01:59:20 AM
sabi ko, no more upgrades. and yet here I am posting. HAHA
from Harman Kardon AVR635 (75w x 7) to Sherbourn SR-120 (125x3 + 75w x4).  77lb of amplifier power.

(https://scontent.fmnl4-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14141617_10154532257989700_8118398324757367364_n.jpg?oh=d55d5bb8a35bda81a14990d496a87cb8&oe=5849A7E1)

(https://scontent.fmnl4-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14202520_10154532257959700_4652288171077853496_n.jpg?oh=1d1f0cbb53dc26b5c0c63c6fdb4b66e8&oe=583C975E)

(https://scontent.fmnl4-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/14224763_10154532258104700_7446872382994838292_n.jpg?oh=a512f32b25c17b0c8a2ef494d042c2b8&oe=584F156B)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: lahar on September 07, 2016, 10:56:05 AM
My uncle acquired a house and lot from a deceased US Navy vet which contained a lot of old audio stuff like oldschool amps, tuners, equalizers and speakers. He let me keep my pick of the lot so I got hold of all of them. Unfortunately some of the amps are 110V (the wiring in the house is a mix of 110-220V outlets). Is it possible to have these converted to 220V? Also some of the speaker housings are in poor condition. Might have to re-house them in new boxes.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 07, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
My uncle acquired a house and lot from a deceased US Navy vet which contained a lot of old audio stuff like oldschool amps, tuners, equalizers and speakers. He let me keep my pick of the lot so I got hold of all of them. Unfortunately some of the amps are 110V (the wiring in the house is a mix of 110-220V outlets). Is it possible to have these converted to 220V? Also some of the speaker housings are in poor condition. Might have to re-house them in new boxes.

it is possible to convert to 220v, but might i suggest that you get a voltage regulator with 110/220w out. you're gonna need it anyway. rehouse is a good idea, hopefully can build similar spec'ed box, majority of the cost of a speaker lies on the box.


check the crossovers as well. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on September 07, 2016, 12:12:59 PM
the power transformers would have to be re-designed = costly
easier way is to use a step down Transformer with matching wattage of the total output of the unit. if you have a 100W amp better get a 220V to 110V 200W step down X-former, these are not that expensive.

in rehousing those speakers, more or less follow the original spec so that the resonant freq of both speaker + box would match.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 07, 2016, 01:04:33 PM
http://www.lazada.com.ph/newstar-avr-2000w-color-display-full-range-grey-nvr-2000tdg3-2637341.html
I got this (at Wilcon not at Lazada, cheaper sa Lazada though) for my temporary workstation, works pretty good and it has 1000w capacity for 110v. 

http://www.lazada.com.ph/newstar-ndvs-2000-servo-2000w-avr-grey-4350590.html
this one should be better. (servo type)

really good for audio equipment so you have stable power.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on September 10, 2016, 09:06:40 AM
my 1st upgrade cable from Mingo :happy:

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj298/heishiro_PPC/tf10_zpsbifastpi.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 21, 2016, 12:18:42 AM
I really can't stand the clicks and pops of digital vinyl rips. Its quite distracting and I keep on thinking that the playback is glitching.
I'm cool with it if I know what I'm playing is a vinyl rip, but when it comes from a CD or digital download it's maddening!

Norah Jones has an album out and I got a Vinyl that came with a download code for the digital version. There are all sorts of clicks an pops on it! I thought my sample was bad so I torrented the CD version, and the same pops and clicks where there.

Anyhow if your stuff is in .flac (or other lossless) you can run it through Audacity's click remover.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 22, 2016, 01:53:48 AM
New NAD Classic Series (http://nadelectronics.com/foreverclassic) looking rather tempting. Built-in DAC, Phono, AptX BT combined with HypeX NCore output stages made load-invariant using NAD's tweakery.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on September 22, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
^

The C series are known for their all discrete analog circuitry and class-A input stage which gives them their well-loved signature sound quality. I'm curious as to how they sound now considering I was very disappointed with the D 3020.


Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 22, 2016, 02:24:16 PM
I'm using the C372 now. The logical upgrade would've been the M3, but I was hoping the new C388 can deliver the same sort of sound without the heat. I kinda miss when I had the C316. Doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the C372, but it ran cool enough that I could leave it on all of the time.

My own theory behind the NAD sound is it comes from the load-invariant output stage, because the frequency response of the speaker wouldn't follow the impedance curve. Will just have to wait till local retailers have the new available for demo to see if this holds true with the new models.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 02, 2016, 09:19:04 PM
The Monoprice USB DAC Headphone Amp (15494) (http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15494) is exactly the same (https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/55f79x/the_monoprice_usb_dac_headphone_amp_15494_is_a/) as the Audioquest Dragonfly 1.2 for half the price.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on October 02, 2016, 11:38:37 PM
Snake oil company talaga yan Audioquest. I avoid those companies like a plague.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 03, 2016, 09:04:46 PM
^ I think their cables are def snake oil-ish, but the Dragonfly DAC is legit.

What probably happened here is the company they are outsourcing production to in China started to sell to other companies.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 04, 2016, 12:38:19 PM
I bought their micro usb cable (green/entry level) for my iBasso DX90.  nothing special, but it feels tighter which is a nice thing.  not gonna spend more than 2k for a short usb cable LOL
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 19, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
Quick and simple tool page for calculating first reflection points:
http://www.acoustic.ua/forms/calculator4.en.html
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on November 03, 2016, 09:44:41 PM
Tonight's companion...

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161103/b52073203d0e38c3ed3eb85c469cbdf0.jpg)

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: egzbuen on November 05, 2016, 10:46:56 PM
I'm thinking of upgrading my earphones.

I first got my myself a hi-Z. Then a kz-zs3 and then TFZ Series 5. That's all in one day.

After a week, I got the aed10.

Now I wanna go triple drivers.

Has anyone tried Pai Audio MR3? How about 1more triple driver?

Would the doubled price be worth it?

Sent from heaven

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on November 26, 2016, 05:43:50 PM
Was window shopping and passed by the Sony store in trinoma. They have the MDR XB450AP selling for 2999 but lazada sells them for around 600-700 pesos. Go or no go? I know it's probably just a basic headphone but I'm not looking at spending more than 1k for a pair. Any thoughts?

I'm reading reviews from Amazon and the buyers are pretty well pleased with it.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: uvax on November 26, 2016, 09:31:44 PM
The ones being sold at Lazada are most likely fake. I recently bought a Sony MDR-100ABN for P900. For the price I was expecting it to be fake but I just wanted a simple and cheap  bluetooth headphone for my son. I wasn't disappointed.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on November 27, 2016, 09:34:07 AM
Got it, thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 27, 2016, 10:01:24 PM
Was window shopping and passed by the Sony store in trinoma. They have the MDR XB450AP selling for 2999 but lazada sells them for around 600-700 pesos. Go or no go? I know it's probably just a basic headphone but I'm not looking at spending more than 1k for a pair. Any thoughts?

I'm reading reviews from Amazon and the buyers are pretty well pleased with it.

Check out SoundMagic P11s (headphone, not to be confused with PL11 in-ear).  it costs 1k and it sounds pretty good, it doesn't have the best build quality, but for 1k and the sound it's really worth it. :)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/808752/soundmagic-p11s-on-ear-20-miracles
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on November 28, 2016, 11:49:15 AM
thanks for the recommendation... are they available locally?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 28, 2016, 07:45:39 PM
thanks for the recommendation... are they available locally?
Yes! Most astrovision and the likes have them.
See this list too https://www.facebook.com/notes/soundmagic-philippines/where-to-purchase-and-demo-soundmagic-in-ears/173259649432460
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 30, 2016, 05:06:10 PM
testing testing
(https://scontent.fceb2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15157033_10154790226859700_2043202617637915092_o.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 02, 2016, 12:57:48 AM
Sennheiser C598 $99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JP436TS/
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 03, 2016, 11:15:59 AM
Sennheiser C598 $99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JP436TS/

good sounding headphone.
check massdrop from time to time, they have really good deals on headphones.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on December 07, 2016, 04:29:50 PM
thanks for the recommendation... are they available locally?
Yes! Most astrovision and the likes have them.
See this list too https://www.facebook.com/notes/soundmagic-philippines/where-to-purchase-and-demo-soundmagic-in-ears/173259649432460

visited a few digital walker stores and an astroplus store but couldn't find one...will check another one tomorrow maybe.  otherwise, any other alternatives that are on the 1~1.5k range?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on December 24, 2016, 06:01:53 PM
After being so busy these past few weeks, I've had some time to do some extended music listening on this entry-level hifi open-backed headphone I got recently and all I can say is wow, I never thought going open would be this good. It's easy to drive and it sounds great straight out of my iPhone 6, my laptop and my HRT microStreamer. I think its way more natural and mature sounding compared to the V-shaped and fatiguing signature of the M50x that I had a while back. I couldn't listen to that one for more than 10 minutes but I can listen to this all day.  :)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/IMG_2389_zpsyqbdlbec.png)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 14, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
I seem to have been bitten by the head-fi bug....

Now, I find myself trying to choose between getting either the HD600 or the HD650. I'm leaning towards the 650 because of this very sensible review from nwavguy, the creator of the Objective DAC/Amp:

http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/06/sennheiser-hd-650.html (http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/06/sennheiser-hd-650.html)

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POLARIZED SUNGLASSES (seriously!): Have you ever compared regular and polarized sunglasses while driving a car or out on a lake? The polarized variety dramatically cut glare and reflections. The best sunglasses remove more of what you don’t want (glare) letting you see more of what you do want. In harsh conditions, they actually enhance your vision. Believe it or not, that describes what I like most about the Sennheiser HD 650. They seem to remove glare, sibilance, harshness and other obvious flaws that are so common in many (especially pop) recordings and somehow reveal more of the music. At first, the lack of harshness can leave music sounding a bit lifeless in comparison to other headphones. But, for me, much of what’s missing usually turns out to be unwanted anyway. And once you’ve adjusted, it translates into an amazing lack of long term listening fatigue. I find myself hearing things I never noticed before.

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COMPROMISES: Using yet another car analogy, on a brand new glass smooth road even a hardcore sports car can deliver a fairly smooth ride. But on more typical roads that are worn, patched, potholed, etc. a big luxury car delivers a much smoother ride. You can’t have razor sharp handling and an ultra plush ride. It might not be as exciting, but if you want to cover 500 miles of choppy worn freeway, most would consider a good luxury car the more pleasant choice. The Sennheiser HD 650 is the Mercedes S Class of headphones. The big Mercedes makes bad roads seem better than they really are while still delivering an accurate and precise driving experience and the 650 does the same with typical flawed recordings. Few roads are glass smooth and most music is is not very well recorded, mixed and mastered. Both are a great solution to a very common problem. But a Mercedes S Class isn’t a Porsche 911. And, on the right roads, the Porsche can put a bigger smile on a car enthusiast’s face. But stuck in traffic or spending hours on the freeway the Mercedes is the better choice. The same is true here. For the best recordings there are more exciting headphones than the HD 650. But in the real world, with a large variety of typically recorded music, the 650 is hard to beat if you like an honest, relatively accurate sound.

Seems like the 650 is exactly what I'm looking for since I get easily fatigued to headphone listening and most of the music in my library isn't what most would consider as well mastered or audiophile grade.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: suavegabe on January 17, 2017, 06:11:22 PM
anyone knows where I can buy an Antlion Modmic locally?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 21, 2017, 07:23:40 AM

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkGvz77tYQ
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on January 22, 2017, 11:46:48 AM

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkGvz77tYQ

Haha, the guy turned into a tweako audio cultist.

For me, I draw the line with speakers and headphones. I don't feel like spending so much on dacs, amps, cables and such.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: hungree on February 01, 2017, 07:48:14 AM

LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkGvz77tYQ

What is the title of this anime? Thanks
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 05, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
I'm really enjoying this setup.  :wub:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/IMG_2485_zpsaqijqjio.png)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 06, 2017, 02:49:53 PM
I'm really enjoying this setup.  :wub:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/IMG_2485_zpsaqijqjio.png)
for the HD650? NICE!
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 16, 2017, 10:55:15 PM
It's here.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/IMG_2556_zpsvoadzlkf.png)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 16, 2017, 11:09:30 PM
It's here.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v452/sinister6000/IMG_2556_zpsvoadzlkf.png)

awesome! congrats!  that sounds really good, but needs good synergy with amplifier to shine well.  but i think you got that covered already.




let me share mine too.  yes, i hate that massdrop website, deadly website, lol. this thing needs break-in and a better amplifier. 
(https://scontent.fmnl4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16603087_10155038536409700_4843456676098402913_n.jpg?oh=0b9e3e74fd902ce90c26bf634b43fcc0&oe=5901AEEB)

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 16, 2017, 11:34:26 PM
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awesome! congrats!  that sounds really good, but needs good synergy with amplifier to shine well.  but i think you got that covered already.

It sounds awesome. I can't stop listening to it.  :wub:

My O2 has a custom gain config for the DAC's 2.25Vrms line-out voltage. Switching on the 3.1x high gain setting unleashes the potential of the HD650, cleanly. Makes the music sound more alive and punchy without the unwanted artifacts usually associated with high-gain settings. The 1x unity gain setting sounded a bit anemic. Interestingly, the HD650 gets pretty loud with with just my iPhone 6 at 80% volume with no audible distortion.

Edit:

One thing that I forgot to mention is how comfy the HD650 is. I was surprised at how it just disappears while wearing it around my ears. I've always been turned off with headphones in the past because of comfort issues. This one totally changed my mind.

Quote

let me share mine too.  yes, i hate that massdrop website, deadly website, lol. this thing needs break-in and a better amplifier.

Congrats on your K7XX btw!

I hate Massdrop with a passion after the clusterfuck of a drop that was the HD6xx. I'm still bitter for failing to purchase the damn thing due to their server issues. I spent a couple of hours trying to pay but kept on getting errors while looking at the number of units sold go from 400+ to the 5000 limit and then it was all gone. lol
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 18, 2017, 12:35:14 AM
Quote
awesome! congrats!  that sounds really good, but needs good synergy with amplifier to shine well.  but i think you got that covered already.
One thing that I forgot to mention is how comfy the HD650 is. I was surprised at how it just disappears while wearing it around my ears. I've always been turned off with headphones in the past because of comfort issues. This one totally changed my mind.
that alone makes the price premium worth it! :)

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Congrats on your K7XX btw!

I hate Massdrop with a passion after the clusterfuck of a drop that was the HD6xx. I'm still bitter for failing to purchase the damn thing due to their server issues. I spent a couple of hours trying to pay but kept on getting errors while looking at the number of units sold go from 400+ to the 5000 limit and then it was all gone. lol

that's unfortunate :( ok lang I think the 6xx is somewhere between 600 and 650. so eventually you got the better model :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 20, 2017, 02:27:45 AM
Damn that was one of the best drops. HD6xx for ~$200 right? The drop literature was painting it as a revision of the 650.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 20, 2017, 10:50:32 AM
Damn that was one of the best drops. HD6xx for ~$200 right? The drop literature was painting it as a revision of the 650.

Yep. According to the measurements and subjective listening tests posted at Head-Fi, the HD6XX is basically an HD650 in a different color scheme with a shorter cable.

It's Massdrop's biggest drop yet. I reckon it will take a while before there will be another HD6XX drop since they have to make sure their servers can handle the volume of orders properly the 2nd time around. At the moment, there are already over 50K requests made for that drop. I really think Massdrop should put solid measures in place to reject automated bot orders and ensure everybody gets a fair chance at getting one.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on February 25, 2017, 02:22:29 PM
Review of the Massdrop HD6XX:
http://headfonics.com/2017/02/the-hd6xx-from-massdrop/

That pretty much clarifies what it was:
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Let’s make no mistake. The HD650 still owns all the land in the sub $500 tier for open backs, despite a few competing threats to its 15 years or so reign after it was first released. In late-2016, Massdrop collaborated with Sennheiser to produce this HD650 variant, broke their website with pre-orders and has since been unable to keep stock of the new model HD6xx. Rightly so. The only difference between the original HD650 and the Massdrop HD6xx is a new, deep blue paint job, a different box.

So the HD6XX was the original HD650 from 15 years ago.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on March 21, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
Quote
yes, i hate that massdrop website, deadly website, lol

Yes, I concur! haha
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: egzbuen on March 25, 2017, 03:17:35 PM
Recently got K3P. Bang for the buck IEM

Sent from Nokia 3210

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on May 04, 2017, 12:53:58 AM
12 speaker Headphones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESgztPPPoiM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESgztPPPoiM)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 27, 2017, 07:10:04 AM
Interesting podcast on getting the most bang for your buck in this hobby.

http://beginneraudiophile.blubrry.com/2017/05/23/9-getting-the-most-bang-for-your-buck-on-stereo-gear-with-harris-fogel/
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 25, 2017, 02:09:56 AM
So there's a proper term for when you get goosebumps from listening to music: 'frisson' (pronounced free-sawn)

http://theconversation.com/why-do-only-some-people-get-skin-orgasms-from-listening-to-music-59719
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on July 25, 2017, 10:22:07 PM
So there's a proper term for when you get goosebumps from listening to music: 'frisson' (pronounced free-sawn)

http://theconversation.com/why-do-only-some-people-get-skin-orgasms-from-listening-to-music-59719

Happens to me once in a while when I get mind blown by a song I hear for the first time. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who experience this so-called frisson.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on July 26, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
to be fair, other stimuli cause frisson too:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151007-five-ways-to-have-a-skin-orgasm
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on September 14, 2017, 09:19:21 AM
the AKG & Sen are best for the fiio X1
(https://image.ibb.co/cwbZjF/stuff3.jpg)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on October 11, 2017, 09:22:15 PM
saw the superlux HD669 in megamall selling for 1900...good enough for the price?  the HD668B is around 2500 in lazada.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 21, 2017, 07:49:19 PM
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/superlux-hd-668b-and-hd-681-headphones (https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/superlux-hd-668b-and-hd-681-headphones)

In case you find it fatiguing to listen to, Innerfidelity suggests EQ'ing a slight roll-off on the treble above 5kHz (page 2 of the review linked above). Yes it's for the 668B, but the 669 shouldn't be too different.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on October 22, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
thanks! got the 669's for 1700 because megamall was on sale that day.  so far, so good.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dean on October 30, 2017, 04:50:01 PM
as much as i like the sound of the 669s, they're a bit big and difficult to bring around so i'll probably just use them at home or on certain occasions.  which brings up an important question:

what are bang-for-the-buck IEMs?  i'm thinking somewhere around 700~1500 should be ok.  i have a pair of JBL T110s which my wife likes so i can give it to her when i get a new one.  i thought of the soundmagic P11s (seller in lazada says it's being replaced by the P10) but they're not something i can just stuff in my shirt pocket or even anywhere in my bag...i'll probably get one of those later but for now, an in-ear setup is probably what i'll be going for.  i'm only using my phone to play a mix of flac and mp3 files but i may get a HiFi DAP eventually.  the soundmagic ES18S has a lot of reviews on lazada so i guess it's pretty popular...is it any good?  like is it about as bang-for-the-buck as the on-ear P11S?  not a big basshead so i'm skipping the ones that emphasize bass...i prefer a more balanced sound overall.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on October 30, 2017, 05:20:59 PM
Panasonic RP-TCM125, not too bright/detailed but not overly bassy either, very pleasant to listen to. Cheap (< US$10) and cheerful buds.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 03, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
Klipsch R8SW is a stupid-low $119 with promo code NEFPRTY130
https://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16886200085
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: wheelee on November 13, 2017, 07:17:53 PM
Burn-in test? Just let it play for a few hours
China brand headphones, not bad, both with dual coils
(http://i66.tinypic.com/ic71uu.jpg)

Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on November 13, 2017, 07:32:53 PM
Ganda talaga ng synergy ng 2017 13" MBP NTB at HD650. Totally destroys my HRT MSIII DAC/O2 Amp setup with that headphone.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on November 14, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
Ganda talaga ng synergy ng 2017 13" MBP NTB at HD650. Totally destroys my HRT MSIII DAC/O2 Amp setup with that headphone.

mas gusto mo 650 kesa 600?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on November 14, 2017, 08:00:14 PM
Ganda talaga ng synergy ng 2017 13" MBP NTB at HD650. Totally destroys my HRT MSIII DAC/O2 Amp setup with that headphone.

mas gusto mo 650 kesa 600?

Yep. Mas preferred ko yung laid-back at medyo bassy sound. Yung MBP, na complement niya ng mabuti yung sound sig ng 650. Very relaxing combo.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on February 02, 2018, 01:22:57 AM
Finally got this from the post office, antagal din ng retention from DHL, hayzz..
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/CWwmDxT.jpg?1)[/size]


OOTB:
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/JlfG0mm.jpg)[/size]
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 03, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
Finally got this from the post office, antagal din ng retention from DHL, hayzz..
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/CWwmDxT.jpg?1)[/size]


OOTB:
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/JlfG0mm.jpg)[/size]
congrats!
massdrop is the bomb! hehehe. :)
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on March 23, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wKXlQFC.jpg)

So now I'm a vinyl noob.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: egzbuen on March 23, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
Finally got this from the post office, antagal din ng retention from DHL, hayzz..
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/CWwmDxT.jpg?1)[/size]


OOTB:
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/JlfG0mm.jpg)[/size]

How long did it take from time it was actually shipped?
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: dom_08 on March 27, 2018, 08:42:39 PM
hello, long time no hear. :)

been slowing down sa headphone collection ko, so more or less nag-settle na ako.

portable
(https://scontent.fmnl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29062719_10156238462934700_6913740668917514240_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=87c55161be57968022c425b5cd8f7e43&oe=5B40712C)

travel
(https://scontent.fmnl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29026062_10156238462919700_1342768078521368576_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=07a5a9faa83c81233a270df80ee17aea&oe=5B4252E6)

condo
(https://scontent.fmnl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29101897_10156238461624700_8507125758517313536_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1243c227af6db8d591dca50661b4f80e&oe=5B3B72DC)

source:

LG V20
IBasso DX90
laptop->foobar->Audiolab 8200CDQ or Audeze Deckard

i still have with my AKG K7XX (massdrop wooo) and Beyer DT990pro 250, something to refresh my ears after the stax.  I recently got a Kinera SEED out of curiousity because it was all hyped in one of the groups, it was all hype, no perfrormance, sadly :(

hp i let go:
Focal Elear
Grado RS2E
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: otacon on April 17, 2018, 11:08:39 AM
Finally got this from the post office, antagal din ng retention from DHL, hayzz..
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/CWwmDxT.jpg?1)[/size]


OOTB:
[size=78%](https://i.imgur.com/JlfG0mm.jpg)[/size]

How long did it take from time it was actually shipped?

Sorry for late reply, here's a short summary of the time it took from purchase to actual item acquisition:

- Purchased item at 11/30/2018
- Been in DHL purgatory for almost 2 months
- Finally arrived at PH shores at 01/19/2018
- "Departed from local distribution center"at 01/26/2018
- Claimed item from local P.O. at 02/01/2018

If I want it fast in the future, I think I'll have it shipped via ShippingCart na lang.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: egzbuen on April 25, 2018, 02:24:50 PM
Wow! that was long...

Better to have it shipped to a relative located at CONUS and he/she takes care of shipping to Manila.

Thanks for the reply buddy
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: axelangel007 on December 03, 2018, 01:26:23 AM
asus centurion 7.1  :happy:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4895/32275110388_cf910afa38_b.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4874/45423002084_039b80a99c_b.jpg)
stand front view
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 02, 2019, 12:03:59 AM
Got a DDA100 this weekend. It's the little silver thingy in the pic below:

(https://i.imgur.com/v1EYjHf.jpg)

Using it as a daily-driver amp because the NAD C372 (also in picture) runs way too hot and takes too much power to be using over long periods of time.

Listening impressions: This amp is clean! Liek super clean. When nothing is playing the speakers might as well be turned off. When listening it's very easy to find myself cranking up the volume because of clean and undistorted the output stays.

The amp also stays cool. There are no vent holes at all, and even after leaving it powered on for hours it's not even warm to the touch. I'd like to take a watt meter to it but I do believe it should be consuming next to nothing even when powered on and idle.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: Heishiro on May 15, 2019, 06:15:51 PM
Bumigay na yung cheap speaker ko sa kwarto then wala akong mahanap n medyo maliit lang na speaker at kinda mura. Ended up getting a BOSE companion 2 series 3. Ok naman yung sound nya for movies and music. Yung edifier bookshelf masyado na malalaki para sa dorm at mahirap na ibagahe in case kaylangan iuwi. Yung bose ok ang bass for its size kapos lang ng konti sa highs pero nakuha naman sa EQ. Kung $70-80 ang Companion 2 mas ok sana pwede mairecommend para sa small room speaker. Pero kung wala prob sa speaker size mas ok ang edifier bookshelf nasa $100 - 130 ang range.
Title: Re: PPC Audiophile Thread
Post by: barurutor on May 15, 2019, 08:23:44 PM
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Pero kung wala prob sa speaker size mas ok ang edifier bookshelf nasa $100 - 130 ang range.

Yup, my Edifier R2000DB has been great. Bought for SGD199 a couple of months back. 2 line inputs+optical+bluetooth and a remote control. Hooked it up to my TV but serves as bluetooth speakers for our phones in a couple of clicks.