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Title: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: Demo™ on May 03, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
Change of some plans, we might be looking into portable and split type instead of a window type.
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: baktol on May 03, 2010, 12:33:49 PM
Instead of just the brand, I usually look at if it has a high EER (energy efficiency ratio) and whether the compressor is made by Matsushita (maker of Panasonic).  Sales people usually say if it is.
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: wheelee on May 03, 2010, 01:45:31 PM
many say Condura or Carrier are one of the best
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: DonJuan on May 03, 2010, 02:25:02 PM
mitsubishi electric
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: Noobinator on May 03, 2010, 05:21:54 PM
Ayaw niyo ng inverter type sir? That would be cheaper in the long run. And yes, go for Matsushita compressors.
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: slide on May 03, 2010, 06:26:04 PM
kelvinator.  7 years-old and still runs well and quietly.  had to replace its starting capacitor a few weeks ago. heavy usage on summer months only, though. 

panasonic compressor rin ba gamit nito?
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: baktol on May 03, 2010, 06:51:32 PM
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panasonic compressor rin ba gamit nito?

AFAIK, Kelvinator, Carrier and Condura (all made by Concepcion Industries) use Matsushita compressors.  By the way, I think you could buy from Concepcion Industries factory (along East Service Road between Sucat and Alabang) directly.  I remember nag-inquire kami about 5 years ago by phone and around 1,000 pesos cheaper ang factory price.  Yun nga lang you'd have to pick it up yourself.
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: popoy on May 03, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
look into inverter technology, its supposed to save you on electricity.
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: DuaneF on May 03, 2010, 09:33:32 PM
Had an inverter type AC sa work place ko before...doesnt have the annoying on and off cycle you get from typical ACs. mas consistent din yung temp niya.
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: Demo™ on May 04, 2010, 09:17:34 AM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: wheelee on May 04, 2010, 09:24:10 AM
...well if it's any consolation we have a 1/2 HP Samsung that we used for more than 10yrs., the only thing we needed to replace was the rotary switch for the on/off/ speed mode
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: jojitb on May 04, 2010, 09:33:03 AM
I replaced my old 1HP panasonic window type with a 1.5HP inverter-type.

saves 1k-2k (compared to old aircon, depending on the month).  less than 2 years bawi na.

kaso dahil alam namin na matipid siya, mas madalas kami ngayon magbukas nang aircon.  gastos pa din! hehehehe
Title: Re: Whats the best 2HP window tye aircon ?
Post by: eadejesus on May 04, 2010, 04:18:55 PM
LG gamit ko.  OK pa naman.  Mga 4 years na.  2hp din ata.
Title: Re: Whats the best portable Aircon, 1.5HP or higher
Post by: Demo™ on May 05, 2010, 02:37:42 PM
Change of plans, we might be looking into a portable aircon or split type instead of a window type unit.

For portable I saw a 1.5HP model ( Union ) at SM appliances and it has a cooling capacity of 13,000BTu ( whatever that means ) and eats 1,300watts! The portable feels like it can only cool in a specific direction since it also dumps the heat on the room it is in. Im not sure if its really a good way to cool down a room.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: icedrop on May 05, 2010, 07:45:28 PM
can the hot air of the portable aircon be ducted so that it gets dumped outside the room?
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: calvin on May 05, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Change of some plans, we might be looking into portable and split type instead of a window type.

it's easier and cheaper to maintain a window-type AC than a split-type one though.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: baktol on May 06, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
Change of some plans, we might be looking into portable and split type instead of a window type.

it's easier and cheaper to maintain a window-type AC than a split-type one though.

Demo posted yesterday that he can't make a hole in the wall, hence the change in plan from window to portable type.

@Demo
Unless you have French windows (or the room in question has no windows at all), I think you could make some room by removing some glass from your window.  or if you go for split-type, maliit na butas lang naman yun for the tube.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: Demo™ on May 07, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
@baktol

There is a possibility of removing some glasses om the window and let the window type AC sit on a thick rubber strip so it absorb most of the vibration.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jepoi on May 16, 2010, 08:02:07 AM
any update?

i'm in the market right now for a portable aircon din kase eh.

no other options.  the room is right in the middle of the house.  as in all four walls, loob ng bahay ang other side.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: geode3.0 on May 16, 2010, 01:49:14 PM
is one side of your room adjacent to a bathroom?  a split-type AC with the water drain leading to the adjacent bathroom could be an option.  ung sa amin kasi, may abang na small hole for a split type to drain water into the bathroom which is adjacent to the living room.

i don't think portables can cool down a room as efficiently as fixed AC's
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: juke on May 16, 2010, 02:18:17 PM
is one side of your room adjacent to a bathroom?  a split-type AC with the water drain leading to the adjacent bathroom could be an option.
This is a good suggestion. In most residential units, a bathroom is adjacent to a bedroom, lalo na sa mga small units.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jojitb on May 17, 2010, 01:21:43 PM
split-type na gamitin mo.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: Sephiroth on May 17, 2010, 03:47:56 PM
OT: Parang di na kasing init ngayon ang panahon. O baka nasanay lang ako?
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: juke on May 17, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
^medyo nag-tone down na nga ang init ng panahon
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: popoy on May 17, 2010, 09:36:42 PM
Nag-tone down na nga init.

Bumili ako ng .6hp (530watts) to replace 1hp (930 watts) para makatipid sa kuryente, para nga pala ito sa 8.5 square meter room. 

Malamig ung 1hp pero I prefer etong .6hp ko ngayon dahil maganda ung pakiramdam ng lamig.  Ung 1hp uber lamig ung tipon nakakasipon, nabasa ko na there is such a thing na oversized AC kaya mabilis magtrip ung compressor at bahagya lang nababawasan ung humidity although malamig, in fact nasa no.3 dial out of 10 lang ung thermostat ko dati.

Pero dito sa .6hp mataas setting, no.8-9 dial pero sarap ng lamig.  Patunay na malaki nawawalang humidity eh ung dami ng water dripping sa likod, kalahating timba ata isang gabi at ang anak kong may allergic rhinitis eh hindi na nag kukuskus ng ilong kumpara dati.   

Mas efficient ang AC kung running at full load at mas mabilis naman masira kung laging nag-automatic ung compressor. 
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: Capcom on September 17, 2011, 12:30:27 PM
Bump.....

kamusta mga Samsung na inverter type AC's ? planning to replace our old 2.5 Hp Window Type (8-9 yrs old) ... with a 2.5 Hp Split Type ( inverter ) .. ilan % kaya savings at malayo ba cooling performance ?
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jester on September 18, 2011, 12:11:05 AM
I can't compare from a non inverter type, since my first split-type is inverter. But with my 1 year with the samsung inverter aircon I can say that it can cool the room really fast. I only set it to 26, sobrang lamig na. Its 2.5HP for a room thats 28sqm. Yan yung sala/dining/kitchen ng condo unit. Yun panasonic kong 1.5HP inverter split-type sa kwarto na 20sqm 2 1/2yrs na kahit ilagay ko sa 20C hindi ganun kalamig, kahit pag bagong linis/service 22C dapat naka-set para ok yung lamig.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: CMT on September 29, 2011, 07:50:33 AM
I am buying a window type for a small 24sqm condo. So far GE Profile series ang medyo mura, 16k for 1hp AED09KL ang model. 
Title: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jorussic on September 29, 2011, 07:11:54 PM
yung LG medyo di rin ganun kamahal, at sulit naman. tapos ok pa ang service kc sa Pasig lang, although di pa naman ako nagkakaroon ng problem with mine.


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Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: dean on January 07, 2013, 11:07:55 PM
reviving this topic...

looking at getting a split type aircon forms a small room so I guess 1-1.5hp should do the trick. any recommendations and their price? what about those inverter types...how much and are they any good? thanks!
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: calvin on January 08, 2013, 12:48:14 AM
^ you will only reap the benefits of an inverter-type AC if you use it at least 8 hours a day.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: ris on January 08, 2013, 01:56:17 AM
^arent the prices of inverter type aircons getting lower now?  is it still not worth the investment?
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: icedrop on January 08, 2013, 06:50:42 AM
sayang wala kasing .6 HP na inverter type. sulit na sulit yun for small rooms.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: dean on January 08, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
hmm...i guess with the combined total use, aabot naman siguro ng 8 hours a day...pero masakit pa rin sa bulsa yung pagbili hehehe...
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: Louie on January 08, 2013, 10:14:49 AM
0% interest 12 months?
Title: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jorussic on January 08, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
^ you will only reap the benefits of an inverter-type AC if you use it at least 8 hours a day.
Actually, given that your AC capacity is correct for the room, the inverter benefits will kick in after 30 mins of operation.
Title: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jorussic on January 08, 2013, 11:13:16 AM
reviving this topic...

looking at getting a split type aircon forms a small room so I guess 1-1.5hp should do the trick. any recommendations and their price? what about those inverter types...how much and are they any good? thanks!
Fafa dean, DM me.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: kenn on January 08, 2013, 03:41:17 PM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: calvin on January 08, 2013, 04:32:18 PM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.


Samsung's warranty is 10 years for their digital (inverter) compressors... so how'd he had it replaced with a different brand if it was still under warranty?
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: splerdu on January 08, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
^ was it split type?
Quality of the installation is crucial. If you're not getting good flow through the lines going to the external unit it can mean trouble for the compressor.
Title: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jorussic on January 08, 2013, 11:54:36 PM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.


Samsung's warranty is 10 years for their digital (inverter) compressors... so how'd he had it replaced with a different brand if it was still under warranty?
Samsung's 10 year warranty for compressors is with Refs AFAIK.
Title: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jorussic on January 08, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
^ was it split type?
Quality of the installation is crucial. If you're not getting good flow through the lines going to the external unit it can mean trouble for the compressor.
+1
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: jigger on January 09, 2013, 10:01:09 AM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.


i also had my old one replaced just last week with a mistubishi. Trane yung luma namin. Bumigay na after 14 years. Hassle na paayos kaya napilitan palitan. Hopefully tumagal ito. 
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: WallyWest on January 09, 2013, 10:14:01 AM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.


Samsung's warranty is 10 years for their digital (inverter) compressors... so how'd he had it replaced with a different brand if it was still under warranty?
Samsung's 10 year warranty for compressors is with Refs AFAIK.

Compressor lang naman ang pinalitan.  Aircons use OEM compressors and Panasonic(Matsushita) is a trusted OEM of quality compressors.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: calvin on January 09, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.


Samsung's warranty is 10 years for their digital (inverter) compressors... so how'd he had it replaced with a different brand if it was still under warranty?
Samsung's 10 year warranty for compressors is with Refs AFAIK.

My bad... but Samsung digital compressors either have a 5 or 10-year warranty. so if the refs have 10 years, then the ACs must be the ones with 5-year warranty.


Thanks for the advice, ill look into that Matsushita compressors.. for the Inverter I think samsung has models with inverters, are their AC's good ?

my friend had to replace his samsung aircon compressor 2x. 1st with panasonic di rin tumagal, now its replaced with mitsubishi... hopefully tumagal.


Samsung's warranty is 10 years for their digital (inverter) compressors... so how'd he had it replaced with a different brand if it was still under warranty?
Samsung's 10 year warranty for compressors is with Refs AFAIK.

Compressor lang naman ang pinalitan.  Aircons use OEM compressors and Panasonic(Matsushita) is a trusted OEM of quality compressors.

Samsung Inverter series ACs use their own (Samsung brand) DC rotary compressors.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: kenn on January 09, 2013, 12:38:37 PM
^ was it split type?
Quality of the installation is crucial. If you're not getting good flow through the lines going to the external unit it can mean trouble for the compressor.

almost 20-24hours operation everyday except winter season
window type...
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: kenn on January 09, 2013, 12:42:18 PM

Samsung's 10 year warranty for compressors is with Refs AFAIK.
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he checked with samsung, its only 1 year lang daw po, maybe in this part of the world(middle east) 10 year warranty for compressor or maybe tinatamad na naman yong mga katutubo...
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Post by: jorussic on January 28, 2013, 02:30:02 PM
dean is here in the office buying an AC haha!
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Post by: dean on January 28, 2013, 08:28:09 PM
LG FTW!!!
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Post by: lahar on May 21, 2020, 09:27:20 AM
Any thoughts on the Haier brand?
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Post by: WallyWest on May 21, 2020, 04:18:12 PM
I go for Daikin.
Got it last year for 31k including installation.
1 HP at home. Working 8 hours every night.
Had it cleaned the weekend just before ECQ (yup, almost a whole year bago napalinis). Still works fine.
Will be getting one again soon. My only concern is the health of the installers...
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: wheelee on May 22, 2020, 11:43:34 AM
what! only 8 hours? lol

our Condura almost runs 20hours everyday since ECQ - I should charge our company for this.
Almost 10yrs narin ito. I just cleaned it last week using those high pressure water nozzle


Lately eyeing those LG EC series after watching a few reviews in YT
Hitachi also looks good & GREE too, 12yrs na yung sa friend ko   
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: WallyWest on May 22, 2020, 01:49:17 PM
what! only 8 hours? lol

our Condura almost runs 20hours everyday since ECQ - I should charge our company for this.
Almost 10yrs narin ito. I just cleaned it last week using those high pressure water nozzle


Lately eyeing those LG EC series after watching a few reviews in YT
Hitachi also looks good & GREE too, 12yrs na yung sa friend ko
Well, recently mga 12 hours. We try not to get too used to airconditioning.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: splerdu on May 22, 2020, 06:25:01 PM
My Panasonic has been on almost 24/7 ever since ECQ started.
It's actually cheaper to leave it on than to turn off at noon and have to re-cool a heated room.
Title: Re: Need airconditioning advise!
Post by: JM on May 22, 2020, 07:49:25 PM
Gree has an abysmal customer service.
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Post by: wheelee on May 23, 2020, 01:52:59 AM
Gree has an abysmal customer service.


they say they also have a lot of other OEM brands like York/ kolin/ chigo
they also use carrier compressors