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Title: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on August 30, 2008, 07:14:38 PM
Here's an idea. Let's have a thread where we post our most recommended computer parts and whatever we have every month we can collate and then post as an article. At least everything would be in one place for everyone to easily read through.

Think it's a good idea? Let's get the ball rolling:

Components

Processor + Mobo:
Memory:
Video Card:
Hard Drive:
Optical Drive:
Case:
Monitor:
Mouse:
Speakers:


Laptops

Netbooks:
Gaming notebooks:


Post away!

For me, I think I like the MSI Wind as a netbook.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on August 30, 2008, 09:04:06 PM
what would be the ideal not so expensive HTPC setup?
- mobo + VGA card OK
- HDMI is a must
- very light gaming lang crysis & COD4 :D

i was thinking about the AMD 790FX + SB750 OK na kaya ito?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on August 30, 2008, 09:58:24 PM
hehe okay to ah, parang "Best Hardware For The Money" ala THG.

anyways, ive been advising on a lot of system builds lately, and heres my take for videocards:

7600GS DDR3, 7600GT, 8600GT, secondhand if available

8800GT, 9600GT, 8800GTS G92, its raining secondhanders right now, best time to get one, as long as it doesnt break 6k

HD4850, HD4870. if 9800GTX corresponds to international pricing of below $180, that too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on August 31, 2008, 12:28:31 AM
imho, Hard Drive since internet nowadays offers high speed bandwidth with more files to download from so, the need for more, bigger capacity is a must-have.

2nd is the graphics card + psu combo since most demanding games today require a good mainstream to high-end cards in order them to be playable with acceptable to maximum Framerates.

3rd is the LCD monitor but here's what i know, the larger the monitor you want to buy the more powerful video card it required to play at bigger native resolutions.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on August 31, 2008, 12:50:23 AM
harddrives: no reason to get anything lesser than 160giggers nowadays, sweet spot for harddrives right now are the 250GB, 320GB, and 500GB SATA 2 models. from 2.4k-4k, so thats like 8-10pesos per gigabyte, compared to a 160GB = 2k which would be P 12.50 per gig.

1TB drives are awesome too, but too much of an egg basket to break.

edit: 1GB LOL!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on August 31, 2008, 01:16:38 AM
Quote
1GB drives are awesome too, but too much of an egg basket to break.

di ba maliit yan? =]
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Heishiro on August 31, 2008, 02:34:32 AM
pwede din ang benchmarks ng mga SD and flash drives from 1gig to 4gig
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jeremypv on August 31, 2008, 05:45:55 AM
harddrives: no reason to get anything lesser than 160giggers nowadays, sweet spot for harddrives right now are the 250GB, 320GB, and 500GB SATA 2 models. from 2.4k-4k, so thats like 8-10pesos per gigabyte, compared to a 160GB = 2k which would be P 12.50 per gig.

1TB drives are awesome too, but too much of an egg basket to break.

edit: 1GB LOL!
1Tb=7.8k that's P7.8 per gig, I actually can't believe the ridiculously low-priced beast from PCX
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on August 31, 2008, 12:44:36 PM
Quote
1Tb=7.8k that's P7.8 per gig, I actually can't believe the ridiculously low-priced beast from PCX
someone's offering the WD10EACS at 7k in TPC. sana naghintay na lang ako. may chance pa siguro bumaba yan kapag narelease na ung 1TB black ng WD.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: solidhelix08 on September 01, 2008, 12:02:07 AM
pinned topic?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Trek on September 01, 2008, 04:05:32 AM
Power Supply Review by DragonSteelMods
Ultra X3 1000 Watt ATX Power Supply ULT-HE1000X / ULT40064

"For testing I used my handy multimeter to monitor the voltages and I used a Seasonic Power Angel to monitor overall wattage and power factor. All testing for load was done with SLI enabled, and to achieve full load on my system I used Orthos Stress Prime and 3dMark05 running at the same time.

During boot up I checked the wattage used and it peaked at 195Watts, with a Power Factor of .97-.98 or 97%-98% efficient.

After boot I let the system sit for a bit to get the wattages, PF and the voltages of the 12volt and 5volt lines. This was during a one hour period, the wattage was between 168 and 171 with the Power Factor stable at .98 or 98%. For 30 minutes of that one hour I monitored the 12 volt line and for the next 30 minutes I monitored the 5volt line using my multimeter connected to a molex connection.
It's normal to see voltage fluctuations on the 12 volt rail, especially while the system is at idle, and the fluctuations are so minor really it's nothing to bother about.

My load testing was done for the same one hour duration, here I monitored the voltages individually again for 30 minutes each. Under load my system peaked at a paltry 222Watts according to the Seasonic Power Angel, during this time the Power Factor actually went up to .98 and .99, or between 98% and 99% efficient. This is something you want to see, the efficiency going up under load on the system, so that's a very good thing."

DragonSteelMods gives the Ultra X3 1000 Watt ATX Power Supply ULT-HE1000x a 5 out of 5 score."

http://www.dragonsteelmods.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=5&Itemid=38


Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on September 01, 2008, 07:45:13 AM
pwede rin ba post dream rig.. ^_^


heres mine:

Processor: ????
Mobo: Foxcon Black Ops(e2 na lng para oks na oks)
(http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/foxconn-black-ops/board-s.jpg)
Ram:Corsair Dominator 8gb
(http://www.corsairmemory.com/_images/products/dominator-description.jpg)
HardDrives: 2xWDC VelociRaptor 300GB 10K rpm SATA2 HDD,2x WDC Caviar® Black (WD1001FALS) 1Tb (terabyte) 32mb cache
(http://www.westerndigital.com/global/images/products/frnt/300/wdfDesktop_GLFS.jpg)
(http://www.wdc.com/global/images/products/frnt/300/wdfDesktop_CaviarBlack.jpg)
GraphicsCard:HIS 4870x2
(http://www.hardwarezone.com.ph/img/data/nnews/2008/11438/Image/hisx2.jpg)
Case: Lian Li PC-A17
(http://www.lian-li.com/v2/tw/product/PC-A17-b.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: woody on September 01, 2008, 04:59:29 PM
Quote
...HardDrives: 2xWDC VelociRaptor 300GB 10K rpm SATA2 HDD...

The Velociraptors are now also available in 74GB (WD740HLFS) and 150GB (WD1500BLFS) capacities.

So there really is no reason to get anything else...


* BTW, look at what the BlackOps made my "ancient" QX6700 do (in my sig...)

HTH.

(http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/397578.png)

Ire fortiter quo nemo ante iit...
;-)



 
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on September 01, 2008, 09:12:53 PM
keep the ideas coming, guys

how about for internet cafe's? what would be an ideal setup
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on September 02, 2008, 02:17:52 PM
for icafe i would suggest this para kahit papano my mild gaming parin

proc-A64 X2 4600+ 2.3ghz

mobo-EMAXX NF7050HD-PRO NF7050 HDMI DVI
(optional)Palit HD 3870 ATI Radeon 512mb 256bit DDR3

ram-Corsair 2Gb (CM2X1024-6400) XMS2 Twin2X 2Gb DDR2 800
(just put the other stick sa ibang pc para maka tipid)

hdd-seagate 250gb 8mb

lcd-Samsung 19" (920NW) wides screen black D-Sub/VGA PHP

sa case seguro pwede na yung icute na tig 1.3k with hec 550

syempre mas ok kung winxp parin yung os.

OT:
may mga icafe ba na naka vista na? curious lang.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: draganta on September 02, 2008, 10:42:48 PM
he he he  any suggestions for an photo enthusiasts for me with a limited budget...

mobo(preferably gigabyte, asus, abit)
cpu C2D???
ram...

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on September 03, 2008, 05:23:59 PM
Just wanted to share..

Scored a Razer krait.. I must say in terms of ergo and grip, the G5 wins.

The Krait has a rubber side railing.. grippy when dry.. slippery when your finger's edge becomes partially moist from sweat. As opposed to the G5's.. The G5's side has a somewhat sandpaper-like finish on it.. it's grip doesnt slip even when the fingers become moist from sweat.

I'd definitely choose Logitech G5 for those tight gaming moments ^^
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on September 05, 2008, 09:28:58 PM
i still like the ambidextrous g3 better. had to hunt it down to get it
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on September 09, 2008, 10:43:32 AM
bump!

let's make computers for the following price ranges:

50,000
40,000
30,000
20,000

and one for as cheap as you can without going for any second-hand or refurbished parts.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on September 09, 2008, 12:53:25 PM
hehe outsourced na ung Buyer's Guide articles, sakto, am about to build a brand new 30k system by the weekend. ill keep you guys posted.

oh btw has anyone noticed the sudden influx of Asus P5NSLi boards in the market right now? ranges from 1.9k - 2.5k. better option than those cheapo boards with built in video. i did build my girlfriend one, with that board and an E2180. was able to overclock to 2.75GHz with ease.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on September 14, 2008, 12:46:58 AM
Di mo aantayin ang i7 at x58's, reel?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on September 23, 2008, 12:51:04 PM
Yeah.. wait for the X58s.. hehe.

Anyways, I need your help guys, can anyone suggest a Good gaming laptop for 50k or below? I mean, the best you can score on that price range..

And of course, is available locally. Not through credit card and stuff..

Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: sandstig on September 24, 2008, 01:52:15 AM
Thakker, parang medyo sulit 'to:

Quote
GX600 Basic Edition (Gaming Series)
Price: PhP 49,999.00 (Free 2.0Gb Flash Drive !!!)
   
   
Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology
Intel® Core™2 Duo T5550 1.83GHz 667FSB 2MB L2 Cache Processor
Intel® PM965 Express Chipset
Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N (Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN)
NVIDIA Geforce 8600GT 512Mb VRAM
1.0Gb DDR2-667 Memory (Max:4Gb)
120Gb SATA Hard Disk Drive
Super-Multi DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive
1.3 Mega Pixel Webcam + AI Array MIC
HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) / Bluetooth Built-in
15in. WXGA ACV Widescreen Display
1.0GBLan / 56K Modem
Card Reader 4-in-1 MMC/SD/MS/MSPro
4 x USB 2.0, Express Card Slot
Weight : 2.8kg; Battery Life: 2.5Hours (6-cell)
MSI Targus Bag
Windows Vista™ Home Basic O.S
(Note: This model does not have Overclock Features)
   
---------------------------------------------------------------
   
EX600 (Gaming Series)
Price: PhP 39,999.00 (Free 2.0Gb Flash Drive !!!)
   
Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology
Intel® Core™2 Duo T5450 1.6GHz 667FSB 2MB L2 Cache Processor
Intel® PM965 Express Chipset
Intel® Pro/Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG
NVIDIA Geforce 8400GS 256Mb VRAM
1.0Gb DDR2-667 Memory (Max:4Gb)
80Gb Hard Disk Drive
Super-Multi DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive
1.3 Mega Pixel Webcam + AI Array MIC
15in. ACV (Amazing Crystal Vision) Widescreen Display
1.0GBLan / 56K Modem
Card Reader 4-in-1 MMC/SD/MS/MSPro
4 x USB 2.0, PCMCIA Card Slot
Weight : 2.8kg; Battery Life: 3Hours (6-cell 4800Mah)
MSI Targus Bag
NO - O.S.

Source: PC Corner (http://pccorner.com.ph/products.do?action=showproductdetail&typeid=23&categoryid=88&productid=4413)

WXGA (1280*800) sucks on a screen that size IMO, pero YMMV. Other than that, okay na rin yung specs. In the event you change your mind and you're willing to purchase from overseas, I think configuring an XPS M1530 gives you more bang for the buck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on September 24, 2008, 07:05:22 AM
Di mo aantayin ang i7 at x58's, reel?

hehe if ever i got to wait, most probably di ko afford hehe. in any case, that 30k system got built, ended up around 26k, which includes an X2 4800, 2GB of RAM, a 250gig drive, a Palit 9600GT, an Asus 19" LCD, and Edifier speakers.

all in all its good gaming value for just 26k, subtracting the LCD and others means the cpu itself went for just 16k.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on September 24, 2008, 07:14:17 AM
powersupplies: you dont really want to spend that much on a powersupply? meet the HEC Raptor 500W

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r213/redmantech/Power%20Supplies/Raptorrailings02.jpg)

feels like a replacement for the 550AB, as it still has active PFC, not to mention its cheaper, which you can get for 2-2.4k

if youre sitting on a single gpu, air-cooled overclocked system, this is one of the better buys, as opposed to the Gigabyte Superb that i used to recommend months ago.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on September 24, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
@sandstig
Yo man, thanks a lot. Really helped. hehe. That looks better than the one I saw dude. Thanks. My friend will be getting that one then. ^^
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jepoi on September 25, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
need your suggestion guys.

i'm planning to build a torrent box slash htpc slash gaming rig.  i know they have different characteristics and they actually contradict each other in most of them.  that's my problem.

i can't afford to build two PCs, so the plan is to get a balanced enough rig that will serve both purposes, meaning:

• it should not consume too much power when downloading torrents (HybridPower?  which Processor?)
• powerful enough to play Crysis, even at low/medium settings (9800gt?)
• powerful enough to play 720p MKV files (on-board VC? 2Gb/4gb mems?)

what do you guys think, is this even possible?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on September 25, 2008, 09:58:19 AM
if not overclocking look into the hybrid crossfire boards so that you can save on power when not doing 3d stuff
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jepoi on September 25, 2008, 10:41:34 AM
boss louie, what chipset/mobo can you recommend?  honestly, i don't know anything about those new technologies eh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 25, 2008, 11:12:53 PM
powersupplies: you dont really want to spend that much on a powersupply? meet the HEC Raptor 500W

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r213/redmantech/Power%20Supplies/Raptorrailings02.jpg)

feels like a replacement for the 550AB, as it still has active PFC, not to mention its cheaper, which you can get for 2-2.4k

if youre sitting on a single gpu, air-cooled overclocked system, this is one of the better buys, as opposed to the Gigabyte Superb that i used to recommend months ago.
i'm currently using one..
so far so good..
upgraded my hec 475w just because i don't want to see any unfilled sockets on my motherboard (4+4 atx and 20+4 connector)

so far my only complaint is that its cable are waay shorter compared to my old hec 475w (power op) or even the 550 version...
the L type sata is a big plus though for side mounted sata drves ^_^
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 04, 2008, 08:22:23 AM
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3459/38520153yc3.th.jpg) (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38520153yc3.jpg)
suggestion lang


some comments....
supposedly 20k, 25k (silent), 30k (light gaming), 60k gaming, 80k (gaming/video editing)
i noticed that the 25k silent is too expensive (vs. the 30k light gaming), so i think the psu should be lowered to 400w and find a cheaper motherboard

again, suggestion lang ang mga ito.. .hehehehehe

P.S.  I based my prices on rsun's October 4 pricelist, and for simplicity all items can be bought at rsun (some are pre-order basis though)

P.P.S.  9600GT (MSI OC version) in the rsun pricelist is 8k +, that's why i opted for 9500GT, i suggest look for other computershops for the video card, or get the 9800GT...

P.P.S.  Intel Core 2 Quad 9400 and up would have been a better processor for the 80k (gaming/video editing) or maybe the new xeons (the x3210 (kentsfield) is performing really well in after effects for me though (even better than maybe the q6600 that my friend hsa.. hahahahaha), but i believe those new quaddies (q9xxx) are better)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on October 04, 2008, 08:27:15 AM
that is a bit expensive, i remember the build i posted on a different thread costing only 26k and already sports a 9600GT.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 04, 2008, 08:33:59 AM
that is a bit expensive, i remember the build i posted on a different thread costing only 26k and already sports a 9600GT.
i think that's the one you posted above. ^_^

anyway... yep, i find it a bit expensive as well, most likely due to the mother board, ups, and the arctic cooling.. and wala nang murang 9600GT sa rsun. :((

anyway... could you post the full specs, so maybe i can fix the 25k one?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 04, 2008, 08:38:07 AM
more PSs

i'm not really familiar with the speakers posted above.. (LOL)
the one's i am familiar with are not available (x-240, cheap but goot logitech speakers; and the classi al atp3. hahah)

anyway... it's just a guide, i placed speakers, at least you guys have an idea how much it would cost.. ^_^
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on October 07, 2008, 02:31:34 PM
Any suggestions for a chair? sumasakit katawan ko sa monobloc na gamit ko.. it has an arm rest pero mababa.. can anyone suggest a chair within 1-2k? It must have a high armrest and if posible, may sandalan din sa head area..
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on October 22, 2008, 08:33:48 PM
Was browsing through some derelict forum lately and saw this guy pulling off a few "hadukins" on his PC. This triggered my appetite for some sonic booms as well. Yanked my ROMs CD from the dusty bin and booted up mame.

Had a friggin' hard time finding the control options and after a few o's from google, I finally managed to program my XBOX 360 controller

"Continue.. 10.. 9.. 8.."

I'd stop beating around the bush and go straight to the point.  Xbox360's d-pad sux.

If there was a perpetual hardware do not suggest thread, I'd note down Xbox 360 is not a fine fighting game controller.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on October 22, 2008, 09:14:42 PM
It's a great driving controller though.

I was going through around Fry's yesterday.  I think I saw three different fighting sticks for consoles, but none for PC.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on October 22, 2008, 09:41:57 PM
antec 1200 for 9k+
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2516023
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2516168
sa mga naka antec 900,upgrade time na-naman ^_^
(http://www.tronixcomputers.com/images/antec1200.jpg)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cases/antec/1200/2.s.jpg)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cases/antec/1200/1.s.jpg)
sana dumating na haf 932 :angry:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: khestoi2 on October 22, 2008, 10:55:34 PM
Thinking about buying a computer of a psp 3000 this Christmas.
Kapag kinapos sa budget eh psp nalang + HDD + internet
kapag ok sa budget PC.

Here's my build

*Di ako mag ooverclock

Power Build
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
PowerColor pcs+ 4870 1gb Video Card       13,500
intel core2duo E8600 Processor          11,000
MSI P45 Zilent Motherboard                9,200
WDC Caviar Black 1TB dual processor HDD      9,000
corsair 620HX PSU                    5,900
xtreem dark 4gb   1066 Memory            5,400
Powercomm 1000va UPS               4,550
Coolermaster 690 Nvidia Edition            5,500
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                                64,050
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Power++ Build
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gigabyte X48-DQ6 Motherboard          14,130
powercolor pcs+ 4870 1gb Video Card       13,500
Coolermaste Cosmos S Casing          11,100
intel core2duo E8600 Processor          11,000
WDC Caviar Black 1TB dual processor HDD      9,000
corsair 620HX PSU                  5,900
xtreem dark 4gb   1066 Memory            5,400
Powercomm 1000va UPS               4,550
Zalman 9700nt CPU Cooler               4,000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                      78,580
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kaasar di ata gumagana ung tab dito eh
palpak tuloy ung spacing
sensya na
mukhang aus yang antec 1200 for 9k na yan ah.
Any comments and suggestions?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 22, 2008, 11:05:28 PM
mga bros.. i'm having a hard-time picking which one will be the better buy..

Geforce GTX 260 (216)
(http://www.hothardware.com/articleimages/item1216/big_geforce-gtx-260-core-216-6.jpg)

or

Radeon 4870 (1GB)
(http://xtreview.com/images/Palit%20Radeon%20HD%204870%20Sonic%20with%20switch%20button.jpg)

i'm having a hard time choosing bec. of nvidia's CUDA offering which i'm considering bec. i'm planning to get the new Adobe CS4 which make use of CUDA but the 4870 (1GB) is looking fine under game benches which i'll also be doing..

gundammit! hard to choose! argh!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: khestoi2 on October 22, 2008, 11:40:13 PM
may 216sp na ba dito?
san ka bili?
magkano pre?

kung mag adobe ka eh nvidia ka na kasi may hardware accleration na un at nagpartner na sila ng adobe
amp!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 23, 2008, 12:38:48 AM
Thinking about buying a computer of a psp 3000 this Christmas.
Kapag kinapos sa budget eh psp nalang + HDD + internet
kapag ok sa budget PC.

Here's my build

*Di ako mag ooverclock

Power Build
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
PowerColor pcs+ 4870 1gb Video Card       13,500
intel core2duo E8600 Processor          11,000
MSI P45 Zilent Motherboard                9,200
WDC Caviar Black 1TB dual processor HDD      9,000
corsair 620HX PSU                    5,900
xtreem dark 4gb   1066 Memory            5,400
Powercomm 1000va UPS               4,550
Coolermaster 690 Nvidia Edition            5,500
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                                64,050
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Power++ Build
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gigabyte X48-DQ6 Motherboard          14,130
powercolor pcs+ 4870 1gb Video Card       13,500
Coolermaste Cosmos S Casing          11,100
intel core2duo E8600 Processor          11,000
WDC Caviar Black 1TB dual processor HDD      9,000
corsair 620HX PSU                  5,900
xtreem dark 4gb   1066 Memory            5,400
Powercomm 1000va UPS               4,550
Zalman 9700nt CPU Cooler               4,000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total                      78,580
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kaasar di ata gumagana ung tab dito eh
palpak tuloy ung spacing
sensya na
mukhang aus yang antec 1200 for 9k na yan ah.
Any comments and suggestions?

your build looks pretty good for today...

some comments though:

2 months from now (or 1month and a couple of weeks),  expect fluctuation of prices (either because of christmas time, meaning higher prices... or release of newer, more powerful components).....

but if ever the new ones will be released, i think the extreme versions will go first, which possibly be waay over your budget.....

if you have no intention of going i7 anytime soon, just stick with a ddr2 motherboard and rams.... ddr3 is a bit too expensive for now...

if you have no plans in overclocking, you might want to get other rams, kingston value rams or geil are cheaper i think... but getting 4GB is a good decision.

i'm not sure how big the difference between a twin processor hdd and the traditional one, but i know that 1TB would only cost you 6.5k @pchub, not sure if it is also twin processor....

i think going for gtx260 (216) is a better idea....

i'm not sure with powercomm ups, but you might want to try APC instead...

instead of zalman, go for thermalright, the gigantic 120 ultra or black will do a great job...  (or other contact type heatsinks)

lastly, yes the 1200 antec case is nice, and HUGE!!! 3 120mm front fans, with extra bays to spare.... 2 120mm at the rear.....  if i had the money, and space i'll get one.. LOL



@julez
halos pareho lang naman yung dalawa eh, go for gtx260 na!!!
or 4870 muna, tapos di ka matutuwa sa performance, bebenta mo sa akin, tapos bibili ka ng gtx280.. HAHAHAH
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: khestoi2 on October 23, 2008, 01:30:53 AM
hmmm
ayaw ko ng corei7
mahal
at early version pa yan
dami palpak dyan malamang
ok na sa akin ung ram na un para medyo may dating ung itsura hehehehe
und hdd na nilagay ko eh ung dual processor nga para mabilis ung access time
it is the next fastest to the velociraptor or if not the 3rd fastest
no idea kung san merong 216 sp dito sa pinas at ang price nya eh.
masyadong malaki ung mga thermalright ultra 120 extreme eh
yoko nun
APC 1000va is so expensive

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on October 23, 2008, 06:13:37 AM
mga bros.. i'm having a hard-time picking which one will be the better buy..

Geforce GTX 260 (216)
or

Radeon 4870 (1GB)


i'm having a hard time choosing bec. of nvidia's CUDA offering which i'm considering bec. i'm planning to get the new Adobe CS4 which make use of CUDA but the 4870 (1GB) is looking fine under game benches which i'll also be doing..

gundammit! hard to choose! argh!

Go for GTX260 216cores. to give you an idea how much the two fared in FarCry 2 game performance since 19inch monitor mo. max settings should be 1600x1200.
also, if budget is not a problem then GTX260 216 cores is your choice.

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6365/templv6.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on October 23, 2008, 10:56:43 AM
Quote
Go for GTX260 216cores. to give you an idea how much the two fared in FarCry 2 game performance since 19inch monitor mo. max settings should be 1600x1200.
also, if budget is not a problem then GTX260 216 cores is your choice.
+1
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on October 23, 2008, 11:22:31 AM
FarCry2 AMD hotfix and new catalyst version released, prior to this 4870X2 runs at 4870 single card spec, well now:

(http://www.rainblood.com/the_forsaken/fc2hotfix.png)
4870 faster than GTX 260 216 on 22" inch resolution, or heck, performs much the same i guess
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on October 23, 2008, 12:58:16 PM
@X3ME15
yung 216 core na GTX260 bro.. oks din perf niyan.. almost as fast as the GTX280.. (saw some benchies once.. 1-2fps lang difference)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: khestoi2 on October 23, 2008, 10:37:22 PM
well where can you get one of those cards here?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 24, 2008, 04:17:26 AM
thanks mga bro.. i was looking around megamall datablitz earlier and saw Farcry 2 on the shelf.. i was like itching to get the Radeon 4870 1GB from my supplier to play it.. i was too sane earlier.. lol *sob*

well where can you get one of those cards here?

i can get the gtx 260 216 from my suppliers, some gtx 260 216 (mostly EVGA or XFX) are already circling around the market but not much on stock
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: khestoi2 on October 24, 2008, 04:31:18 AM
so whos your supplier?
how much
pwede ba ako magpa order sau in case that would be my choice also for my card?

ayaw mo antayin ung gtx 270 at 290?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 24, 2008, 05:11:17 AM
so whos your supplier?
how much
pwede ba ako magpa order sau in case that would be my choice also for my card?

ayaw mo antayin ung gtx 270 at 290?

sure, i'll give the heads-up when i get the stocks.. can't wait for the new models considering i'll be giving away my old vidcard to my cousin
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: boom_box on October 25, 2008, 12:02:08 AM

yay!!... kaya pa ng 8800GT yung FarCry 2... :happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: JojoD on October 25, 2008, 03:30:23 PM
gentlemen,

need ko palitan mb, mem, and proc ng pc ng mga kids ko. help naman kung ano na proc na dapat piliin, amd or intel? di ako makapamili ng mb kasi hindi ako maka decide which proc to get... yun pang internet/light games lang mga elementary palang naman sila...

your enlightening is greatly appreciated...

thanks

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on October 25, 2008, 05:25:33 PM
@jojo

i'd go for intel with a mobo with IGP kung online games lang,pwede ba malaman yung budget?

Quote
yun pang internet/light games lang mga elementary palang naman sila...
what type of games do they actually play? can you name some.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 25, 2008, 05:43:30 PM
can't wait for the GTX 260 216 to arrive so i just got this baby instead :wacko:


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/X3ME15/Ati/P1020786.jpg)


can't wait to install my 1 year old games.. lol :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: vanich2005 on October 26, 2008, 10:59:41 AM
@x3tme15

welcome to the RED team.hehehehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 26, 2008, 12:40:00 PM
@vanich

thanks.. di ko alam kung anu sisimulan kong game.. lolz
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on October 26, 2008, 05:05:25 PM
@x3me15

can i make a suggestion!!

1.farcry2
2.dead space

dumamdami na nagre-red, welcome bro.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 26, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
@intelathlon

thanks.. currently playing grid.. after reading some 4870 1GB reviews, GRID has the highest gains interms of fps and they're right! max graphics settings + x8MSAA = super realistic! w00t!

:happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on October 28, 2008, 12:50:11 AM
MSI X58 Eclipse

MSI has dropped the circu-pipe (roller coaster theme) heatsink design and Crayola colors for a more traditional cooling system complimented by a very sharp looking blue/black color palette. In fact, the layout of the X58 Eclipse is one of the best we have seen in a long time with all ports and slots easily accessed.

We are not crazy about the X58 heatsink design as it resembles a small coffin when viewed up close. MSI is not going to change the design this late in the game but we should see a nice black plate attached to the top of it to match the ICH10R and MOSFET heatsinks before retail shipment. At least we hope...

The board features MSI's DrMOS MOSFET + Driver IC 6-phase power source design. In addition to DrMOS, there is a healthy smattering of solid aluminum capped capacitors, Hi-C capacitors around the CPU area, sealed ferrite chokes, and the PMWs are powered by the Intersil ISL6336.

Audio is provided by a PCIe x1 based Creative X-FI audio controller on a breakout card. While not the latest X-FI chipset from Creative, this one still supports EAX 5.0, provides 8-channel output, is spec'd at 100dB SNR with 24-bit / 96KHz capability. A welcome change from the Realtek ALC-888/885 product family.

Also included is power, reset, and DLED2 on/off switches. MSI is providing a dip-switch for changing the base clock speeds to 133, 166, or 200 MHz at POST time. The board also features several LED status indicators for everything from standby mode to QPI phase status.


(http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asusrIIe/msix58fbS.jpg)
(http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asusrIIe/msix58pciS.jpg)
MSI has provided a very good PCI/PCI Express slot layout. The Eclipse features three PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (two x16 and one x4 electrical), two PCIe x1 slots and two PCI slots.
(http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asusrIIe/msix58sataS.jpg)
This board features extensive storage options. We get a total of ten SATA and two eSATA ports. The SATA ports are provided by the Intel ICH10R (six - black - RAID 0,1,5,10) and a pair of JMicron JMB322 chipsets (four - blue - RAID 0,1, JBOD). A JMicron JMB363 provides IDE support and the two eSATA (RAID 0,1) ports. IEEE 1394a support is provided by the VIA VT6308P.
(http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asusrIIe/msix58IOS.jpg)
The I/O panel features eight of the available twelve USB 2.0 ports, an IEEE 1394a port, two eSATA ports, two RJ-45 (Realtek 8111C) PCIe Gigabit ports, PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports, and a long overdue clear CMOS button.

this would be my upgrade next year!!! hehe. :silly:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 28, 2008, 01:47:41 AM
will see if its a performer or just looks
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 28, 2008, 11:36:34 PM
i´m torn between the two:

Xigmatek HDT-S1283
Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer

what to get? :D:D

xigmatek looks more bad-ass, but i think sunbeam is better?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 29, 2008, 01:41:43 AM
@dom

nah.. xigmatek is better but i suggest get a second hand thermalright ultra-120 instead, much better performer
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 29, 2008, 10:28:30 AM
@x3me15
heheh. sabi sa frostytech (http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm)
1 sunbeam
2 xigmatech
3 thermalright

100-200 lang naman difference sa tpc, but then again, 1-2 C lang naman difference sa temp yata nitong mga to.. hahahaha
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: X3ME15 on October 29, 2008, 03:01:10 PM
hehehe! kahit anu naman siguro dyan eh top performer.. difference will be on the fan you'll be using
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Arkhael on October 30, 2008, 06:01:28 AM
My Dream Rig mmmmmm....

Components

Processor: Intel Core2 Extreme QX9775 3.2GHz
Mobo: ASUS P5E64 WS EVOLUTION X48
Video Card: 4x Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB
Hard Drive: 6x Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 32MB Cache
Optical Drive: SONY Black 4X Blu-ray DVD Burner SATA
Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS CX-1000DRGN-01-GP Black/ Red Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower CSX Limited Edition Red Dragon Computer Case
Monitor: SAMSUNG XL30 Black 30" 6ms(GTG) Widescreen LED backlight LCD
Mouse: RAZER Boomslang Collector's Edition 2-Tone 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Infrared Gaming Mouse
Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
Cooling: ZALMAN Reserator XT BK Black Reserator (Reservoir+Radiator+Water Pump) Water Cooling System

Libre naman mangarap... hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on November 04, 2008, 04:39:00 AM
My Dream Rig mmmmmm....

Components

Processor: Intel Core2 Extreme QX9775 3.2GHz
Mobo: ASUS P5E64 WS EVOLUTION X48
Video Card: 4x Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB
Hard Drive: 6x Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 32MB Cache
Optical Drive: SONY Black 4X Blu-ray DVD Burner SATA
Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS CX-1000DRGN-01-GP Black/ Red Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower CSX Limited Edition Red Dragon Computer Case
Monitor: SAMSUNG XL30 Black 30" 6ms(GTG) Widescreen LED backlight LCD
Mouse: RAZER Boomslang Collector's Edition 2-Tone 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Infrared Gaming Mouse
Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
Cooling: ZALMAN Reserator XT BK Black Reserator (Reservoir+Radiator+Water Pump) Water Cooling System

Libre naman mangarap... hehe

palitan mo na yung dream rig mo dahil dumating na ang Core i7 hehehe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Arkhael on November 04, 2008, 06:05:39 AM
My Dream Rig mmmmmm....

Components

Processor: Intel Core2 Extreme QX9775 3.2GHz
Mobo: ASUS P5E64 WS EVOLUTION X48
Video Card: 4x Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB
Hard Drive: 6x Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 32MB Cache
Optical Drive: SONY Black 4X Blu-ray DVD Burner SATA
Case: COOLER MASTER COSMOS CX-1000DRGN-01-GP Black/ Red Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower CSX Limited Edition Red Dragon Computer Case
Monitor: SAMSUNG XL30 Black 30" 6ms(GTG) Widescreen LED backlight LCD
Mouse: RAZER Boomslang Collector's Edition 2-Tone 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Infrared Gaming Mouse
Speakers: Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
Cooling: ZALMAN Reserator XT BK Black Reserator (Reservoir+Radiator+Water Pump) Water Cooling System

Libre naman mangarap... hehe

palitan mo na yung dream rig mo dahil dumating na ang Core i7 hehehe.

Hehe pag binebenta na tsaka may mga compatible na hardware na tulad ng mobo at rams. Wala pa gaano kasi eh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: weownsianz on November 07, 2008, 08:37:48 PM
Yo PinoyPC,

I have been thinking of buying a new case. My Hercules casing has been a pain in the butt since it came with the package I bought. So I decided I should opt for another case. My budget is below 7k.

I have been also thinking about that Aurora. Has someone of you had this case? How is it?

Any other recommendations are also open.

TIA.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on November 10, 2008, 08:51:53 PM
@weowmsianz

kung pwede mo sana ma strech yung budget mo to 7.5 k,id recommend the new haf 932 from coolermaster since available na sya,but the aurora is good also tested by many.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 05, 2009, 12:38:04 AM
casing and fan question...

budget is up to 5k for casing

ito yung choices ko
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3828036
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3814058

and maybe

http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3814044

cooler master centurion 590/690 are also on my list

i'm leaning towards the iCute because it's one huge casing
next is the k56, cheaper, but almost similar to the more expensive k62

as for the fan, i'm giving myself a budget of 2-2.5k for 3 or more fans

for now, i'm looking at these
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3796352
maybe 4 pieces (3 for my heatsink, and 1 for the rear fan) (if the k62)
around 3 if i get the icute
and 5 if i get the k52.


waaahhhh.

may suggestions kayo? :):)
papalitan ko pala yung casetek 1026-9a ko. hahhahaha
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: baktol on August 20, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
would it be better to get this mobo + vcard:

Motherboard:  Redfox MCP6P-M2 GF6150 AVL/DDR2    P 1,950.00
Video Cards PCI-E:  Inno3D GF8400GS 256MB 64Bit DDR2    P 1,250.00

or this mobo with IGP?

Motherboard:  Emaxx AMD780G-Pro AVL/DDR2/PCI-E    P 3,200.00

bale papatak same price sila.  but in terms of graphics performance, which can play more games at decent framerates?

or will there be not much of a difference that I'd be better off with the 780G to save a bit of power?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jepoi on September 22, 2009, 07:15:58 AM
guys, patulong naman.  bubuo sana ako ng bagong rig.  mostly, ang pinakamabigat na gagawin ng pc is converting files (audio, video) to other formats and playing HD contents.

if i'll run both at stock, which is better in terms of performance, c2d e7500 or phenom II x2 550?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on October 19, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
patulong din, rereorient ko yung ifx-14 ko, pero naubusan na pala ako ng thermal compound, ano ba ok ngayon?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Heishiro on October 23, 2009, 04:46:19 PM
patulong din, rereorient ko yung ifx-14 ko, pero naubusan na pala ako ng thermal compound, ano ba ok ngayon?

Gelid GC-Extreme Thermal Compound around P500
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on October 23, 2009, 06:16:33 PM
Quote
Gelid GC-Extreme Thermal Compound

teh best!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hungree on December 14, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
Good day mga sir!

im not sure kung dito ko dapat ipagtanong itong tanong ko tungkol sa ano maissuggest ninyong speaker na 2.1 sa dalawang ito

Edifier M1350 @900php
(http://www.edifier.ca/english/speakers/m1350/M1350-300.gif)
 Features

    * Designed for Multimedia PC, with High Performance to Price Ratio.
    * MDF wood enclosure for the subwoofer.
    * Magnetically shielded drivers, no need to worry about the screen nearby.
    * 4 inch professional design subwoofer driver.
    * 2” x 3.5” elliptical satellite driver.
    * Remote Control with volume, headphone jack, mute button and power indicator LED.
    * Low noise amplifier design.

Specifications

    * Power Output: RMS 2Wx2 + 4.5W ( THD=10%)
    * Signal to noise ratio: >=80dBA
    * Input socket: 3.5mm Stereo Line-in
    * Input impedance: 10k ohm
    * Input Sensitivity: Satellite--- 300+/-50mv; Bass 200+/-20mv
    * Bass unit : Magnetically shielded 4" (106mm) driver, 6 ohm
    * Full-range unit: 50x90mm drvier, magnetically shielded, 4 ohm
    * Dimension:
                   Subwoofer--- 158 x 226 x 208 mm (WxHxD)
                   Satellite---- 68 x 166 x 86 mm (WxHxD)
    * Weight: Approximately 2.8kg

Creative Inspire T3130 @1k+php
(http://images.europe.creative.com/images/products/large/18732_1.png)
Technical Specifications

    * Speaker power:
          o 5 Watts RMS per channel (2 channels)
          o 15 Watts RMS subwoofer
    * Frequency response: 40Hz ~ 20kHz
    * SNR : >75dB
    * Product Weight: Speaker( 355g), Subwoofer( 2.7kg)
    * Dimensions (H x W x D)mm : Satellite(150 x 75 x 90)mm, Subwoofer(213 x 160 x 227 )mm

Comments and suggestion aprreciated! TIA!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: kortzh on December 14, 2009, 11:21:59 AM
+ 1 for the Creative speakers..
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on December 14, 2009, 11:34:37 AM
listen to both then pick
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: phobia on December 19, 2009, 02:06:20 PM
help po. ok ba itong video card? may idea ba kung magkano yung ganito?

(http://www3.pny.com/images/PackProdShots/ConsumerGraphics/GForce9Series/9800GTEE1024MBPCIe_THUMBNEW.jpg)

specs
http://www3.pny.com/9800-GT-EE-1024MB-PCIe-P2860C331.aspx (http://www3.pny.com/9800-GT-EE-1024MB-PCIe-P2860C331.aspx)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: daveyap on December 19, 2009, 02:59:18 PM
the 9800GT is a little outdated. i think it retails for about 5.3-5.5K. for a little more, you can get the newer, faster Nvidia GTS 250. its 512MB version though, has the same price as the 9800GT 1GB model.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on December 19, 2009, 07:58:20 PM
4k-ish?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on December 21, 2009, 07:34:16 AM
Mga dudes, tanong lang. Can you suggest a good video card for gaming on a 1440 x 900 LCD monitor? Budget is 4-5K. Para malaro ko na Resident Evil 5 at Empire: Total War. Salamat!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on December 21, 2009, 08:07:17 AM
a bnew 9800GT 512MB is spot on with your budget, though you might want to push your budget a little further and try to get a GTS250, should be around 5.2-5.9k depending on the variant.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on December 21, 2009, 08:21:09 AM
HD4770, a nice card for 1440x900 res also but don't know how much dyan.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on December 21, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
a bnew 9800GT 512MB is spot on with your budget, though you might want to push your budget a little further and try to get a GTS250, should be around 5.2-5.9k depending on the variant.
Mukhang swak nga! Pero ngayon ko lang naalala: wala yatang power connector para sa video card ang PSU ng PC ko (Astone Enforcer case). Kailangan pa ba ng extra power ng 9800GT? Salamat!

HD4770, a nice card for 1440x900 res also but don't know how much dyan.
Ay, sorry sir, kailangan nVidia card kasi dual boot with Linux gagawin ko.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on December 21, 2009, 09:35:21 AM
hehe ok.  the newly released Nvidia GT240(128-bit GDDR5) would be a perfect fit for your needs since it doesn't have an 6-pin connector and has 96-shader processors.  can play all games but with low-medium settings lang pero ok na if you don't care much on eyecandies hehe. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on December 21, 2009, 06:23:18 PM
Looks good, but it's slightly over the budget (P5050 @ RSUN). I need the money to buy the games too!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on December 22, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
The 9800 GT is just a rebadged 8800GT right? From what I have read, the 8800GT offer faster performance than GT 240, as seen here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gt-240,2475-12.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gt-240,2475-12.html)

Furthermore, according to a technician at Rising Sun, the Palit 9800 GT Green edition  does not require an extra power connector. And it costs just around P4500 - right in the middle of the budget.

Is this the best choice? I need your opinion, guys! It's been a while since I shopped to upgrade a rig for games. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on December 22, 2009, 11:27:35 AM
The 9800 GT is just a rebadged 8800GT right? From what I have read, the 8800GT offer faster performance than GT 240, as seen here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gt-240,2475-12.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gt-240,2475-12.html)

Furthermore, according to a technician at Rising Sun, the Palit 9800 GT Green edition  does not require an extra power connector. And it costs just around P4500 - right in the middle of the budget.

Is this the best choice? I need your opinion, guys! It's been a while since I shopped to upgrade a rig for games. Thanks!

go get it before it's too late :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on December 22, 2009, 11:38:17 AM
Uh, what do you mean exactly by "before it's too late?" Is the product going to be discontinued?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on December 22, 2009, 12:52:43 PM
what i mean kung yung demand ng product very high malamang madaling maubusan ng stock hehe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on December 23, 2009, 12:02:11 AM
ngayon ko lang nakita yang Palit 9800GT green ah, thats not so bad. as for the GT240, just seems to be a rebadged 9600GT, better off grabbing a second hand one for around 3k or so. in any case, get the Palit 9800GT Green.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: solidhelix08 on December 23, 2009, 12:23:55 AM
sir, kailangan nVidia card kasi dual boot with Linux gagawin ko.

hinde po ba pede ang AMD na VC sa Linux? or walang drivers para sa Linux? pardon for teh n00b questions ...
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on December 23, 2009, 06:29:35 AM
what i mean kung yung demand ng product very high malamang madaling maubusan ng stock hehe.
Ah, mukha naman no problem kasi sa Palit website marked as available pa.

ngayon ko lang nakita yang Palit 9800GT green ah, thats not so bad. as for the GT240, just seems to be a rebadged 9600GT, better off grabbing a second hand one for around 3k or so. in any case, get the Palit 9800GT Green.
I'm definitely considering buying this one, unless there are other alternatives and from what I gathered so far there are none.

sir, kailangan nVidia card kasi dual boot with Linux gagawin ko.

hinde po ba pede ang AMD na VC sa Linux? or walang drivers para sa Linux? pardon for teh n00b questions ...
Pwede, at meron naman drivers. Dami ko lang nababasa na better nVidia card sa Linux kasi better drivers. Buti na nga lang yung mobo ko built-in GF8200, pero syempre di kaya modern games. Parang F yata grade sa RE5 benchmark. :lol:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: EvilCarlo on January 04, 2010, 02:50:22 PM
Can anyone help me out? I need a gaming/graphics desktop by March 2010, budget is 50k-60k. Will use for heavy gaming (priority on performance rather than image quality) and Photoshop.

Preferably with all parts from the same store ^_^

Processor: Core i5 or i7
Memory: 4GB minimum
Video: Nvidia preferred
Cooling: kayo bahala
Hard disk: 500GB minimum
LCD: 1440x900 screen resolution minimum
Optical drive: any
PSU: However many watts is needed
Printer: optional

Ako na bahala sa keyboard, mouse, etc.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 05, 2010, 01:10:17 AM
rough draft pa lang

Pioneer DVR-S18L   1300
XFX HD 5770 1GB/128bit ddr5 HDMI   7740
Lancool PC-K62 DragonLord Gamers Casing    5000
640gb Caviar Black (WD640AALS) 32mb   3500
HEC 700watts Cougar CM Series   4200
LG W2286L   12999
Motherboard   12000
Processor (i7 920 or i7 860)   14000
RAM   7000

total: 67739

pchub prices as of Jan4.
although maybe you could go i5 750, and get a GTX275 ^_^ (actually i think i'll go with the set-up)
as for cooling, i'd recommend prolimatech shadow master. worth around 3.2k, but stock is fine, basta walang OC

i'm not yet sure with the motherboard. guess it depends if you want 1156 platform or the 1366.

as for the display, i guess the one mentioned is a really great option (been liking LG lately), but you could cut off cost by getting a chimei (22" goes for about 7-8k). but it's 16:9, more pixels, but i'm not a fan of the said ratio, unless for tv use. but i guess if you don't mind a 16:9 lcd monitor, then should be good :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: EvilCarlo on January 05, 2010, 07:35:49 AM
Thanks I'll look into this but 67k is over my budget. Target is 50k, the extra 10k is just buffer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: EvilCarlo on January 05, 2010, 11:52:35 PM
Any thoughts on this setup? http://is.gd/5MTdw (Google Spreadsheets)

[LGA1156] Intel™ Core™ i5 750 2.66 ghz 8mb 4.8 GT/s (D0 SLBEJ) box (lga1156)
[LGA1156] Asus P7P55D
2x Transcend 2GB DDR3 -1333
[Vga] Galaxy GTX260 216sp 896mb 448bit GDDR3
WD Caviar Black 640gb/32mb
HEC 500w Raptor Power
Samsung (SH-S223) 22X Super-WriteMaster DVDRW SATA w/ LS
2x Silver Stone 120mm Case Fans
Thermaltake V3 Gaming Chasis
LG 20" (W2043T) Wide Black DVI

Total comes to Php50,490

All parts from PCHub except video card.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on January 06, 2010, 08:32:24 AM
hey go for it, though the videocard seems to be a bit on the expensive side, a Palit GTX260 216sp is just P8,700 on PCExpress. not to mention its a Galaxy, avoid. the 1k saved is better spent on a better power supply, at least 600-700 watts, just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: EvilCarlo on January 06, 2010, 10:06:55 AM
Pangit ba Galaxy? Neverheard din sakin eh, a friend got a GTX275 from the seller pero I don't know which brand he got.

[LGA1156] Intel™ Core™ i5 750 2.66 ghz 8mb 4.8 GT/s (D0 SLBEJ) box (lga1156)
[LGA1156] Asus P7P55D
2x Transcend 2GB DDR3 -1333
Palit GTX260 Sonic 216SP 896ddr3
WD Caviar Black 640gb/32mb
OCZ 600W ModXStream Pro Power Supply
Samsung (SH-S223) 22X Super-WriteMaster DVDRW SATA w/ LS
2x Silver Stone 120mm Case Fans
Thermaltake V3 Gaming Chasis
LG 20" (W2043T) Wide Black DVI

Total Php51,530

Changed video card (PCX) and PSU (PCHub). Better?

For March 2010 pa naman to, just in time for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 hehehe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on January 06, 2010, 10:47:01 AM
sweet! hopefully by march may mga price drop pa, at least be able to squeeze in a GTX275 by then.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: AJ on March 22, 2010, 07:47:18 AM
-- OT --
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on April 04, 2010, 10:26:38 PM
LED backlit LCDs,

i'm not sure which to get, i'm looking at 3 models right now (although, i'm open to other suggestions).
i'll be upgrading from a 22" Chimei LCD

LG E2350V (http://www.lg.com/ph/it-product/monitor/LG-monitor-E2350V.jsp)
LG W2286L (http://www.lg.com/ph/it-product/monitor/LG-monitor-W2286L.jsp)
AOC e2236Vw  (http://www.aocmonitorap.com/philippines/monitor_213.php)

is it even worth it, or should i transfer this question to the upgrade itch thread?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: EvilCarlo on April 18, 2010, 06:43:03 PM
So this is what I actually ended up with:

AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHz (can OC to 3.4GHz with Turbo V EVO auto-tuning)
ASUS M4A89GTD Pro
Team Elite 2 x 2GB DDR3-1333
Sapphire Radeon HD5770 DDR5 1GB (can OC to 950MHz core, 1435MHz memory via ATI Overdrive)
OCZ Mod X Stream Pro 600w
20" Samsung LCD 16:9 (1600x900)
WD Caviar Black 640GB 7200rpm
Logitech Ultra Flat keyboard
Antec 300 Gamer ATX case
Altec Lansing 2.1 speakers
LG DVDRW 22x

Total: P51,180
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on May 17, 2010, 04:59:06 PM
I'm planning to build a SFF Core i5 system, to replace my dying/dead s939 shuttle.

CPU: Core i5-750
MB: DFI P55 ITX
RAM: 2x2GB (suggestions on brand?)
GPU: NV GT240 1GB GDDR5
Case: Silverstone SG05
Cooler: Corsair H50
HDD: 320GB 2.5" WD or equiv.
Monitor/KB/Mouse: Will use my old ones.


my usage is 85% linux with heavy VirtualBox use, dual-booting with windows for games the rest of the time.


inputs? suggestions? comments?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: incubus on May 22, 2010, 10:00:42 PM
Hope Fully mabili ko na ito next week

     

Xigmatek Asgard Midi-Tower Case - No PSU, Black2xUSB2.0, 1xHD-Audio, 1x120mm Fan, ATX

Corsair TX650W - 650W Power Supply, ATX12V v2.2, 120mm Fan, 8x SATA, 2x PCI-E 8-pin 

Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 Motherboard AM3, 890X, SB850, 4xDDR3-1866, 2xPCI-Ex16, 6xSATA-III, 2x SATA-II, 2xeSATA, 1xATA-133, RAID, 1xGigLAN, 8Chl-HD, Firewire, USB3.0, ATX

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Hex Core (3.20GHz) - AM3, 3MB L2 & 6MB L3 Cache, 45nm, 125W - Boxed - Black Edition 

G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 RAM -9-9-9-24 - Ripjaws Series - G.Skill Code; F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL (Dual Channel Retail Pack) 

XFX Radeon HD 5770 - 1GB GDDR5 - (875MHz, 5200MHz)
128-bit, 2xDVI, DisplayPort, HDMI, HDTV, HDCP, Fansink - PCI-Ex16 v2.0, Fansink - xXx Edition

Western Digital 640GB 7200rpm Serial ATA-III-600 HDD w. 64MB Cache (WD6402AAEX) Caviar Black 

LiteOn IHAS324 DVD-RW Drive - SATA, Retail 24x DVD-R, DVD-RW x12, 8x DVD-DL - Black 

AOC 2434PW LCD Monitor - Piano Black
23.6", Widescreen, 2ms, 1920x1080, 60,000;1, 300cd/m2, VGA/HDMI, Speakers, Full HD





Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: kortzh on May 22, 2010, 10:22:20 PM
^ nice specs!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: incubus on May 22, 2010, 10:48:25 PM
^ nice specs!


salamat....matagal na discussion kay missis bago pumasa hehehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: kortzh on May 22, 2010, 10:52:07 PM
congrats in advance. hexa-core ftw!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on June 04, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
GT240 1GB DDR5 or 9800GT 1GB? Trying to keep it under P5000, so no GT250. Besides, isn't GT250 a rebrand of the 8800GTX?

GT240 (Palit Sonic edition)
- based on new chips
- cheaper by a bit
- no need for the PCIe power connector
- low power consumption
- cooler
- PureVideoHD 4th Gen

9800GT (Inno3D)
- costs just a little bit more than GT240 but a lot faster
- higher power consumption
- hotter
- how old are these things?
- 2nd Gen Purevideo

I'm not choosing ATI, I've had bad experience with linux drivers. I'm still leaning towards the GT240 since I won't be gaming most of the time, but for the times that I will, it's hard to resist the (lots of) extra fps...

Building a Core i5 SFF, will be on most of the time running linux + vbox. occasional reboots to windows for games. Won't overclock, probably undervolt a bit.

CPU: Core i5-750
MB: Zotac H55 ITX or DFI P55 ITX (still deciding, hearing bad feedback from both boards...)
RAM: Team Elite 2x2GB
GPU: Palit Sonic GT240 1GB GDDR5
Case: Silverstone SG05
Cooler: Corsair H50
HDD: Seagate 320GB 2.5" 7200rpm


haaay.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 05, 2010, 06:30:38 AM
Between the GT240 and 9800GT, I went for the latter. It's in my wife's rig right now and it works quite well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on June 22, 2010, 05:50:47 PM
^ tried looking for a 9800GT, can't find one except for green editions. I mean if I'm spending a little more, for older tech, at least give me something non-crippled.

In the end, I got a Palit GT240 Sonic 1GB. Still slower than the regular 9800GT, but cheaper and less power hungry, most importantly, readily available.

Works well under linux.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: slide on July 23, 2010, 12:30:16 PM
r8dhex,

i'm in a similar situation:  < 5k budget and i need a cool running card that runs well in linux.  anything special that needs to be done in linux?  or will it work out of the box?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on July 23, 2010, 02:02:33 PM
Well if you won't be using it for 3D heavy-lifting, I think any of the GT2xx's will give you just enough for Compiz and some video acceleration, for minimal power consumption.

On ubuntu, nvidia is basically idiot-proof: on the livecd and after you install, it tells you that it detects an nvidia card, asks you for your permission to DL the proprietary drivers, then restart.

Last I used ATI was a few months ago. If I remember correctly that time Catalyst drivers didn't support the current Xorg version that Ubuntu had. OpenSuse didn't do much better, it worked, but was dog-slow, the video acceleration seemed like video deceleration. ATI is pretty slow with driver releases, often lagging behind the mainstream kernel or Xorg.

Just to give you an idea, Ubuntu 10.10 is going to include XServer 1.8, and maybe 1.9 if possible. Catalyst does not yet support 1.8. Maybe they can make it to 1.9 compatibility in time for U10.10, but I'm going with nvidia now.

One good thing is that if you have an older ATI card (I think older than the HD3xxx series), the opensource drivers for them already have decent 3d support. Newer cards also have opensource drivers, but some are worse than the proprietary in performance. There is an opensource driver project for nv cards, but it's not endorsed by Nvidia. Still if you're the OSS ideologist type, ATI wins here.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on August 11, 2010, 03:19:34 PM
compare your VGA card with others or select your next upgrade & real world results ( so they say)

http://www.hwcompare.com/graphics/
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on August 11, 2010, 09:26:15 PM
nVidia cards generally work well with Linux.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: intelathlon on August 18, 2010, 07:49:05 AM
My cousins asking on what router he should get. I can only think of linksys. Is there any other cheaper but reliable alternatives.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on August 18, 2010, 09:17:48 AM
I like Buffalo, but I'll recommend Linksys for other people unless I'm installing them myself. Reason is it's relatively easier to setup for non-techies, and they're easily available. If it's only for internet access, then the low-end linksys aren't that expensive.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: mikkohaks on September 01, 2010, 01:04:08 PM
Hi guys! i am new at building desktop computer can you help me about my build?are they all compatible and can you suggest what is better, my budget is 25k-30k..i want to use it for games(self pleasure) and photo editing because of our business, i want it upgradeable because i plan to upgrade it after 4 or 5 months..thanks in advance guys!

Proc: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.5Ghz 4MB 1333Mhz                     P 6,750
Ram: Kingston 2GB PC3-10600 DDR3 1333       (x2)                        P 4,500
HDD: Samsung 500GB 7200rpm SATA 3gb/s                                    P 2,050
Video Card: Inno3D GT220 1GB DDR3 128bit DVI/HDMI                   P 3,100
MOBO: Asus P7H55M-Pro Intel H55/DD3/GBlan                                P 5,700
CDVD: Samsung DVDRW SH-223C 22X Sata                                     P 1,100
Casing: Frontier Duke ATX 500W PSU                                               P 1,500
Speaker: Logitech S-150 Speaker (USB powered)                            P 480
AVR: Elite/Powerplus 500W AVR                                                        P 280
LCD: 19" ACER G195HQL 18.5" LED Widescreen                               P 6,300
 TOTAL:                                                                                           = P 31,760

its a bit overprice for my budget! maybe i can go with 33k..
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: slide on September 01, 2010, 02:55:46 PM
re: photo editing,  do you shoot your own photos?  if so, kulang yung hard drive mo.
re: games,  one step higher sana yung video card.

invest on a decent power supply.  gamit ko yung 550w na fsp,  mura lang ito at 1.8k

check if your mother board can accommodate you next processor upgrade, unless sabay mong i-uupgrade ito.

alisin mo yung avr.  walang kwenta yan.  buy a real avr (anything cheaper than 1k is not worth it) or a ups.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on September 01, 2010, 02:59:43 PM
Quote
i want to use it for games(self pleasure)

o-kay, i've read too much already O_o

1. your processor isn't compatible with your motherboard
2. if you're going to upgrade in 4 or 5 months, it's better to WAIT 4-5 months and then build your rig
3. consider an AMD-based system for your budget
4. you're risking P22k worth of business equipment on a power supply bundled in a P1.5k casing?

start here for a decently balanced system http://techreport.com/articles.x/19159/1
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on September 01, 2010, 03:34:22 PM
@mikkohaks,

eto for 33k, Core i3 system:

Intel Core i3 530 *(2.93Ghz, 4MB Cache      4995
INTEL DH55PJ DDR3/HDMI *for 32nm      3595
2pcs Memory DDR3 2GB 1333Mhz Kingston      4700
SATA 500Gig Seagate 7200rpm         2150
1 GB Inno3D GTS250 DDR3 256bit         4995
Duke Duo casing                    1000
HEC Raptor 500w               2200
Logitech Internet Pro W/ Optical Mouse      750
DVD WRITER Asus black 18x w/ lightscribe   1395
LCD 19" Samsung B1930NW            6395
Creative SBS240               495
                  
                  
               total - Php 32670
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: spoliarium on September 01, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
LED backlit LCDs,

i'm not sure which to get, i'm looking at 3 models right now (although, i'm open to other suggestions).
i'll be upgrading from a 22" Chimei LCD

LG E2350V (http://www.lg.com/ph/it-product/monitor/LG-monitor-E2350V.jsp)
LG W2286L (http://www.lg.com/ph/it-product/monitor/LG-monitor-W2286L.jsp)
AOC e2236Vw  (http://www.aocmonitorap.com/philippines/monitor_213.php)

is it even worth it, or should i transfer this question to the upgrade itch thread?

I've got the LG E2350V and comparing it with my Samsung 2232GW  monitor the colors are less vibrant.  Gaming-wise, the monitor is comparable to my Samsung 2232GW.  Advantage of LG E2350V is that it is HDMI capable.  I do not know of about your other options if they have HDMI but probably they have.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: mikkohaks on September 02, 2010, 06:10:56 PM
re: photo editing,  do you shoot your own photos?  if so, kulang yung hard drive mo.
re: games,  one step higher sana yung video card.

invest on a decent power supply.  gamit ko yung 550w na fsp,  mura lang ito at 1.8k

check if your mother board can accommodate you next processor upgrade, unless sabay mong i-uupgrade ito.

alisin mo yung avr.  walang kwenta yan.  buy a real avr (anything cheaper than 1k is not worth it) or a ups.
@slide: Thanks for the advice!buti na lng nagtanong ako kc naguguluhan talaga ako
ayoko nmn pumunta sa shop ng hndi ko alam ung pinaglalagay ko..haha!Paki explain
sa akin kung gaano kahlaga ung AVR/UPS i need enlightment on AVR and UPS..thanks!

Quote
i want to use it for games(self pleasure)

o-kay, i've read too much already O_o

1. your processor isn't compatible with your motherboard
2. if you're going to upgrade in 4 or 5 months, it's better to WAIT 4-5 months and then build your rig
3. consider an AMD-based system for your budget
4. you're risking P22k worth of business equipment on a power supply bundled in a P1.5k casing?

start here for a decently balanced system http://techreport.com/articles.x/19159/1
@barurutor: 1.wah!ok maybe i'll change it to i3..
       2.Im willing to wait but in the next 4-5 months im just planning to buy some
         add-ons like another ram another video card like that..
       3.why AMD?please explain is it much better?
       4.can it mess up my system?yup im planning to spend more on ups/avr
       5.currently reading TR's system guide

@mikkohaks,

eto for 33k, Core i3 system:

Intel Core i3 530 *(2.93Ghz, 4MB Cache      4995
INTEL DH55PJ DDR3/HDMI *for 32nm      3595
2pcs Memory DDR3 2GB 1333Mhz Kingston      4700
SATA 500Gig Seagate 7200rpm         2150
1 GB Inno3D GTS250 DDR3 256bit         4995
Duke Duo casing                    1000
HEC Raptor 500w               2200
Logitech Internet Pro W/ Optical Mouse      750
DVD WRITER Asus black 18x w/ lightscribe   1395
LCD 19" Samsung B1930NW            6395
Creative SBS240               495
                  
                  
               total - Php 32670

@richie: thanks for the core i3 system!can you explain more about that build..
   
    what is the diff. between Asus P7H55M-Pro and INTEL DH55PJ DDR3/HDMI
    why is it much cheaper?and the LCD Samsung B1930NW with ACER G195HQL LED?
    is it much better?salamat sa build saan ko pla pde bilin yan, iisang shop
    lang ba yan?o iba iba din?Thanks!

Thank you guys for the HELP i really appreciate the replies
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on September 04, 2010, 05:27:02 AM
LED backlit LCDs,

i'm not sure which to get, i'm looking at 3 models right now (although, i'm open to other suggestions).
i'll be upgrading from a 22" Chimei LCD

LG E2350V (http://www.lg.com/ph/it-product/monitor/LG-monitor-E2350V.jsp)
LG W2286L (http://www.lg.com/ph/it-product/monitor/LG-monitor-W2286L.jsp)
AOC e2236Vw  (http://www.aocmonitorap.com/philippines/monitor_213.php)

is it even worth it, or should i transfer this question to the upgrade itch thread?

I've got the LG E2350V and comparing it with my Samsung 2232GW  monitor the colors are less vibrant.  Gaming-wise, the monitor is comparable to my Samsung 2232GW.  Advantage of LG E2350V is that it is HDMI capable.  I do not know of about your other options if they have HDMI but probably they have.
thanks @docspol, ito na rin yung ginagamit ko. hahaha
HDMI is used for dvd player, tipid sa kuryente manood ng dvd/divx movies. hahahaha.

very sulit, better than my old chimei, but i do feel that although you can view it from different angle, the optimum angle is at +/- 15 degrees from center lang :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jepoi on September 29, 2010, 09:41:55 AM
help...

if you have a 640Gb HDD and a 1Tb HDD with virtually the same speed, how would you arrange it based on which will be the system disk and which will be the storage disk.

assume that you will do tons of torrent/jdownloader downloads.

also, where will you put the swap files?  will you partition one or both the HDD?

this is driving me insane.  please help.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on September 29, 2010, 02:28:39 PM
kung ako, I will put the system in the smaller hdd.   system disks are more prone to crashing and I would much rather lose 640GB of "data" rather than 1TB.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on September 29, 2010, 04:40:21 PM
^ tha'ts my setup
OS/ installers = WD640g Black
Files/ Data = 1 TB Hit....
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jepoi on October 04, 2010, 09:08:43 AM
tas wala nang partition partition?

how about the swap files, dapat sa inner part pa rin ba ng 1Tb ilagay o kapanahunan pa ng XP yun and hindi na s'ya masyado relevant today?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: slide on October 04, 2010, 09:13:03 AM
how about the swap files, dapat sa inner part pa rin ba ng 1Tb ilagay o kapanahunan pa ng XP yun and hindi na s'ya masyado relevant today?

yup, di na kailangan dahil sa multi-platter drives.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jepoi on October 04, 2010, 09:25:25 AM
so basically, just let the OS manage it?

ok, thanks everyone!  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: baktol on October 04, 2010, 11:46:31 AM
^
Here's how I'd do it...

640GB:
   Partition 1: 100 GB (increase depending on how many apps you install) for OS, Program Files, etc.
   Partition 2: for Important Data (photos, music collection, projects, etc.)
   Partition 3: for easy-to-replace data (pr0n, etc.)

1TB
   Mirror the OS partition and the partition with Important Data
   The rest for more easy-to-replace data.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on October 04, 2010, 12:52:57 PM
I need a quickie 3-in-1 printer recommendation. Our 6y/o PSC1315c gave up the ghost last night. just a few weeks after I bought a bnew/orig color ink cartridge (badtrip).

summary:
I need a 3-in-1 printer for homeworks and school assigments. can be easily refilled and less than PHP4K. 

Is the brother DCP-195c a good buy compared to epson tx110/121 & canon mp258
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on October 04, 2010, 02:44:11 PM
^ waaaaa sa games lang napupuno na yung Main hd na 640gig hehehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on October 04, 2010, 04:58:35 PM
pa post ulit:
I need a quickie 3-in-1 printer recommendation. Our 6y/o PSC1315c gave up the ghost last night. just a few weeks after I bought a bnew/orig color ink cartridge (badtrip).

summary:
I need a 3-in-1 printer for homeworks and school assigments. can be easily refilled and less than PHP4K.

Is the brother DCP-195c a good buy compared to epson tx110/121 & canon mp258
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on October 04, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
mabilis maubos ink ng Brother, lagi na lang nagtsa-charge kasi
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: baktol on October 04, 2010, 08:59:59 PM
Quote
Is the brother DCP-195c a good buy compared to epson tx110/121 & canon mp258

Quote
mabilis maubos ink ng Brother, lagi na lang nagtsa-charge kasi

@jojitb

That Brother plus a CISS kit would be great.  I have a DCP-165C with CISS.  I bought the CISS (full tank of ink came free) last February for 1,200 pesos - I haven't even used up half of it.  Used for kids assignments and the occasional photo printout.  Sobrang sulit considering that orig Brother cartridges cost about 450-600 pesos.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on October 04, 2010, 09:54:18 PM
thanks!

I got the latest one, DCP-J125.  Meron kasi siya LCD screen, makikita mo mga pics pag nilagay mo memory card dun sa reader niya hehe.

problema lang wala pa available na extended refillable cartridge. Pero madami na sa alibaba.com na supplier kaya malapit na dumating dito mga yan. sana lang nga umabot pa yun kasamang starter ink bago dumating yun CISS/Refillable cartridges.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: escaflowne on March 21, 2011, 12:07:09 PM
Can you recommend a good CDRKING wireless LAN USB adapter for a desktop with Windows 7 OS?

I currently have a TPLINK wireless network card (with latest drivers from the net) but it keeps getting disconnected from the router.

The router is not the problem since my laptop, which is also connected wirelessly, does not experience disconnection issues.

TIA
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on May 06, 2011, 11:07:18 AM
I use a netgear wireless network card, i don't have any problems so far.  got it for 995 at pc hub. 
there might be some settings that needs to be set-up so that the router and wireless network card can communicate better?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: calvin on May 06, 2011, 12:44:26 PM
Can you recommend a good CDRKING wireless LAN USB adapter for a desktop with Windows 7 OS?

I currently have a TPLINK wireless network card (with latest drivers from the net) but it keeps getting disconnected from the router.

The router is not the problem since my laptop, which is also connected wirelessly, does not experience disconnection issues.

TIA

have you tried changing the power management settings for the USB ports?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: aIJay on July 05, 2011, 02:04:52 PM
Planning to get this setup this week... any comments or suggestions would be appreciated!

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
MB: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDR3-1600 C9
PSU: Corsair HX750 80Plus Bronze 750w
HDD: 2tb WD Caviar Black
Case: Corsair Graphite 600t
GFX: Radeon 4850 (Old graphics card... will have to do til I save enough to buy a 6950 or 6970)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on July 25, 2011, 01:20:56 PM
Planning to get this setup this week... any comments or suggestions would be appreciated!

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
MB: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDR3-1600 C9
PSU: Corsair HX750 80Plus Bronze 750w
HDD: 2tb WD Caviar Black
Case: Corsair Graphite 600t
GFX: Radeon 4850 (Old graphics card... will have to do til I save enough to buy a 6950 or 6970)

that is a gorgeous, gorgeous case. pretty expensive though. i was considering it for my first build but got the bitfenix shinobi instead: http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10571996 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10571996)

if you want to get a vidcard right away i have a couple of suggestions. you may want to consider the antec 300 for your case. http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10703866 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10703866) great case, big and roomy too. that'll slash around 6k off the price of everything, given the prices i've seen for the 600t.

then if you want, go for a 1tb samsung spinpoint f3 to save around 4k from the wd caviar black 2tb. http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10872447 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10872447) you can always buy another one down the line.

cut the power supply down to a corsair hx650 instead, that'll save you 1.5k. http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10888318 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10888318)

viola, now you can buy a nice gtx560ti. http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=8982127 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=8982127)

CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
MB: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDR3-1600 C9
PSU: Corsair HX650 80Plus Bronze 650w
HDD: 1Tb Samsung Spinpoint F3 hd103sj
Case: Antec 300 black edition
GFX: Inno3d GTX560ti 1gb DDR5
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on July 25, 2011, 02:54:12 PM
^ to slash an additional 2k of why not get an ASRock Z68 Extreme4 - more or less the same performance and features with the Asus P8Z68-V Pro.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on July 25, 2011, 04:44:42 PM
^ to slash an additional 2k of why not get an ASRock Z68 Extreme4 - more or less the same performance and features with the Asus P8Z68-V Pro.

honestly because im not entirely familiar with the z68 chipset  :huh: but from the reviews i just checked out you're right, the asrock will give pretty much the same performance at 2k less.

extreme4 (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10988261")
p8z68-v pro (http://"http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10783675")

either way he chooses both of those motherboards are great.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: aIJay on July 30, 2011, 10:22:56 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions! Here's what I went with:

Intel Core i5-2500k
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
Corsair Vengeance 8gb (2x4gb) DDR3-1600 CL8
2x Radeon HD 4850 512mb Crossfire
WD Caviar Black 2tb 64mb Cache
Corsair HX750 750w 80 Plus Silver PSU
Corsair Graphite 600t
Viewsonic VX2450wm 24" LED
Viewsonic VP720b 17" LCD
Logitech G500
Logitech Z-5300
Microsoft Digital Media Keyboard 3000

I decided to just get a cheap second hand 4850 for now and run it in crossfire. I figured it would get me to about 75% of the performance of a 6950 at 20% of the price. Sayang din kasi yung old 4850 ko.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/aIJay17/PC/DSC_0202small.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/aIJay17/PC/DSC_0200small.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/aIJay17/PC/DSC_0205small.jpg)

Modded a 120mm fan into the spare 5 1/4 bays to serve as an extra intake
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on August 08, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
very nice. look at all that room in there!

if only shops here carried the white windowed version i would get one in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: otacon on September 04, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Hi guys!

I'm planning to upgrade to Sandy Bridge in a few days, ask ko lang what third-party CPU coolers ang gamit nyo. My budget for the cooler shouldn't exceed P4k, and I don't mind going with Corsair's Hx series of watercooled HSFs, if their load temps are competitive with air-cooled HSFs. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on September 04, 2011, 04:20:20 PM
^cooling depends on what kind of system you are aiming for, if you are getting a non-K processor paired with a H61 or HP67 then the stock hsf is sufficient. if you are into overclocking/performance then a "K" processor paired with a good P67/Z68 mobo then HX series is a good choice, also you may also look at the Antec Kuhler 620 and 920 series.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: otacon on September 05, 2011, 02:10:25 AM
@theDUD3

Yes, I'm set on getting a 2600k/Z68 pairing. I've been looking at several reviews, and based on what I've read, the H100 is only 2C cooler than H80, so I might get the H80 (konting ipon muna, hehe)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: reel on September 05, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
hows everyone faring with their ASrock 1155 boards? these Asrock Z68s are all the hype now
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on September 05, 2011, 02:54:10 PM
@reel

Asrock's mobo's are really quite good and are at par with the higher priced brands. My first Asrock mobo was the P67 (non-B3) Pro3 which I bought for 6.5k and the nearest priced boards with almost the same specs from Asus, Gigabyte ans MSI were 9k to 11k. I was quite surprised how good it performed and oc'ed because I wasn't expecting much from the Pro3 even though the reviews I've read were very good.

Now I am using the Asrock Z68 Extreme4 which I got as a replacement for my non-B3 Pro3 and it's packed with features of a 10k+ mobo, oc's a bit better (5.1ghz) and I have yet to find something to complain about from this mobo.

In the past I have always avoided Asrock for my personal use, my previous 3 mobos (2=gigabyte, 1=Asus) didn't disappoint me either but from a price to performance value I think the current Asrock boards kick-ass.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: otacon on September 08, 2011, 09:37:31 AM
BTW, PCHub pulled out their posting for the Z68 Fatal1ty Pro from TPC, prolly due to lack of stocks. I got mine from CooltechPC, sabay kaming bumili ng officemate ko.

Also, back on the cooling issue, looks like I can still use my TR U120 Black on the AsRock board since it also have LGA775 mounting holes.. hold muna sa Hx series, hehe  :happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on September 08, 2011, 01:12:11 PM
looks like I can still use my TR U120 Black on the AsRock board since it also have LGA775 mounting holes.. hold muna sa Hx series, hehe  :happy:
yep, pero mejo tabingi nga lang. hahaha!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: zer0 on September 20, 2011, 03:51:19 PM
i have a saphire 6870 1gb stock. pwede ba i crossfire sya sa his 6870 iceq turbox (factory oc'd)?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on September 20, 2011, 04:10:46 PM
pwede, yung higher clocked GPU mo yung nasa first slot or near the CPU...
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: zer0 on September 20, 2011, 04:33:41 PM
thanks sir wheelee sa reply. anong mangyayari sa core and mem clocks? will the factory overclocked card revert to original stock settings or ok lang ang crossfire config kahit magkaiba ang clocks?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: zer0 on September 20, 2011, 05:03:17 PM
ok ba na seller ang pcnetmiles? dun ko plano bilhin, malapit lang kasi  sa sta. rosa.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on September 20, 2011, 05:07:25 PM
any suggested cheap SSD? planning to replace my boot drive with one as it is about to fail.

60-120gb should do fine, budget of less than 6k
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on September 22, 2011, 02:42:40 AM
any suggested cheap SSD? planning to replace my boot drive with one as it is about to fail.

60-120gb should do fine, budget of less than 6k

performance: ocz agility 3 series 64gb at 5.7k (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=11593828)

reliability: intel x25-v 40gb at 4.5k (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=9284839)

great reviews for both of those.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wickwire on September 22, 2011, 05:57:07 AM
upgrading ram and harddrive on the old girl (DV9000) this week (hopefully).. thought it was a simple install.. till I found out that I need a hard drive caddy for it.. saw some online last night including some cheaper ones at ebay.. ok ba mamili sa ebay? never bought anything from them yet.. obviously it is cheaper at ebay, just don't know if returns and refunds are as painless as my fav retailer.. (already tried amazon but it's a 3rd party vendor) just need more inputs to finalize my decision.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on September 23, 2011, 10:08:21 PM
hardware suggestion anyone? hehe


my mobo's conking out slowly... drives not getting detected, two pci ports died already and sometimes black screen lang.

Tried cleaning everything but still the same.

anyways,
I'm planning to switch to intel again, I just can't forget how easy and problem free it was to use an intel system.

looking at the following components

I5-2400 = 8k
any 8gb ddr3 = 3.5k

mobo-any suggestions?

Please note that I don't do overclocking anymore so any plain, basic and trouble free mobo will do.

Overall budget=15k

what can you say about the build?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on September 24, 2011, 01:38:54 AM
looking at the following components

I5-2400 = 8k
any 8gb ddr3 = 3.5k

mobo-any suggestions?

Please note that I don't do overclocking anymore so any plain, basic and trouble free mobo will do.

Overall budget=15k

what can you say about the build?

3.5k is a lot for 8gb of ddr3. the dynaquest stall in eton has an 8gb kit of g.skill ripjaws-x 1333Mhz Cl9 for 2450 i believe. the cooltechpc has 8gb g.skill sniper 1600Mhz Cl9 for 2750. those are the cheapest i've come across so far.

the i5-2400 is nice, no reason to go to a 2500 as the performance difference isn't really worth the price increase.

that'd leave you around 4.5k for a mobo. since you won't be able to OC, a h61 or h67 board would be fine i suppose. the asrock h61m-u3s3 is around 3.5k these days and is highly reviewed by hardwaresecrets and phoronix.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on September 24, 2011, 03:48:41 AM
looking at the following components

I5-2400 = 8k
any 8gb ddr3 = 3.5k

mobo-any suggestions?

Please note that I don't do overclocking anymore so any plain, basic and trouble free mobo will do.

Overall budget=15k

what can you say about the build?

3.5k is a lot for 8gb of ddr3. the dynaquest stall in eton has an 8gb kit of g.skill ripjaws-x 1333Mhz Cl9 for 2450 i believe. the cooltechpc has 8gb g.skill sniper 1600Mhz Cl9 for 2750. those are the cheapest i've come across so far.

the i5-2400 is nice, no reason to go to a 2500 as the performance difference isn't really worth the price increase.

that'd leave you around 4.5k for a mobo. since you won't be able to OC, a h61 or h67 board would be fine i suppose. the asrock h61m-u3s3 is around 3.5k these days and is highly reviewed by hardwaresecrets and phoronix.

i5 2400 is not overclockable and the turbo-mode is only up to 3.4ghz unless you touch the bclk (which i believe to be unstable when you increase it.)

same thing with i5 2500 (non-K)

but the i5 2500K will give you at least a start at 4.2Ghz OC on air cooling without voltage tweaks with just raising up the multiplier and maximizing it to 5Ghz with voltage tweaks plus raising up the multiplier.

as for the mobo, MSI, Gigabyte P67 or Z68 for overclocking motherboards

there are also H67 motherboards that can be overclocked
http://www.itxgamer.com/motherboards/overclocking-h67-intel-dh67cf/

zotac H67 motherboards can be overclocked

sulitin mo na lang @ athlonfan dahil di rin tayo makapag upgrade ng madalas kaya kapag malapit na sa budget yung maganda na spec na hardware hala bira agad lolz

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on September 26, 2011, 05:16:12 PM
looking at the following components

I5-2400 = 8k
any 8gb ddr3 = 3.5k

mobo-any suggestions?

Please note that I don't do overclocking anymore so any plain, basic and trouble free mobo will do.

Overall budget=15k

what can you say about the build?

3.5k is a lot for 8gb of ddr3. the dynaquest stall in eton has an 8gb kit of g.skill ripjaws-x 1333Mhz Cl9 for 2450 i believe. the cooltechpc has 8gb g.skill sniper 1600Mhz Cl9 for 2750. those are the cheapest i've come across so far.

the i5-2400 is nice, no reason to go to a 2500 as the performance difference isn't really worth the price increase.

that'd leave you around 4.5k for a mobo. since you won't be able to OC, a h61 or h67 board would be fine i suppose. the asrock h61m-u3s3 is around 3.5k these days and is highly reviewed by hardwaresecrets and phoronix.

i5 2400 is not overclockable and the turbo-mode is only up to 3.4ghz unless you touch the bclk (which i believe to be unstable when you increase it.)

same thing with i5 2500 (non-K)

but the i5 2500K will give you at least a start at 4.2Ghz OC on air cooling without voltage tweaks with just raising up the multiplier and maximizing it to 5Ghz with voltage tweaks plus raising up the multiplier.

as for the mobo, MSI, Gigabyte P67 or Z68 for overclocking motherboards

there are also H67 motherboards that can be overclocked
http://www.itxgamer.com/motherboards/overclocking-h67-intel-dh67cf/

zotac H67 motherboards can be overclocked

sulitin mo na lang @ athlonfan dahil di rin tayo makapag upgrade ng madalas kaya kapag malapit na sa budget yung maganda na spec na hardware hala bira agad lolz



Thanks sa suggestions. As much as I want to overclock, I think I'm getting too old for it. During my OC days, one important lesson I've learned is the more you overclock, the more you spend :)

the 2500K is about 1.9k more than the 2400, the boards which will let me overclock are around 5.5k-6k. Will also have to spend a bit more with the Ram (approx 1k). I'll be over budget by 4-5k which is around 1/3s of my original budget.

Upgrading used to be easy!!! :(

This afternoon, before I went out and splurge on the I5 upgrade, I took the pc out in the garage and cleaned it with a vacuum in blow mode. Ang alikabok pero after the 2 hour deed which includes cleaning of the contacts, sound card is detected again and drives don't get un-detected mysteriously (yet!).

So with the money saved, I'll prolly just get a 2tb hdd as our baby's picture collection is getting bigger and bigger (think 22mb /file!)

Oh and it wouldn't also hurt to get an SSD as the boot drive hehehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on September 26, 2011, 09:27:48 PM
oopss i overlooked your words "Please note that I don't do overclocking anymore so any plain, basic and trouble free mobo will do." lol yeah SSD will surely helps out in boot time and apps loading. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on October 06, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
hello again...

since I've saved money for the upgrade... I'm also looking into building a nas box. I currently have the etrayz but the transfer rate is too slow. Fast nas boxes costs around 20k and building one would prolly cost lesser and faster. it will also be a torrent/download box.

requirements:
not too much power consumption
less than 13k without the hdds (or as cheap as possible)
must be able to do atleast raid1
must have atleast 4sata ports and 4 3.5inch bays

further reasearch, mukhang zacate is the new atom. Below is a temp build i managed to do last night...

intel atom or any itx - can you recommend mobos with proccies?
-Asus E35M1-M AMD Zacate Fusion 6.2k

2gb ram <2k

lian li q08 - 4800

mukhang over budget ako ah. it doesnt support raid as well.. sift raid might do but not sure if the proccie is fast enough


--tapatalked
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on October 06, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
Why not a NAS Box w/ a Gigabit port and RAID support?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on October 06, 2011, 01:32:16 PM
+1 on bravo's suggestion.  You also have to factor in the setup/configuration time you'll spend if you build your own vs. getting a NAS box with the features you need.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 06, 2011, 01:48:59 PM
The big problem there is most cheap motherboards (APU boards included) have only a minimum number of SATA ports. If you want plenty of SATA, that often means a huge, high-end board that will eat up your budget. Or at the very least you'll feel stupid running a slow cpu on a monster motherboard.

Add-in RAID cards could help, but that's additional cost and again, the APU boards don't have a lot of PCIe. Most have just one for the GPU.

Soft-raid isn't bad, but I'd skip the motherboard RAID altogether and go for Windows' (or insert your NAS OS here) RAID instead. It'll allow you to RAID across all the ports, and makes your array more easily portable. From benchmarks it isn't even slower than your mobo soft-raid.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on October 06, 2011, 06:49:19 PM
>why not a nas box with Gigabit?

>>>Fast NAS boxes costs 25-35k+++ (without the drives) while building one for myself would cost around <15k which should definitely be faster than the 25-35k counterparts. My experience with the etrayz (gigabit, raid1 support, 300mhz only) is not exactly non problematic so I don't mind setting one up instead.

the Asus E35M1-M AMD Zacate Fusion mobo already has 5 sata ports, that's one more than I'm gonna need.

@splerdu,
I just checked out the Windows RAID feature and I must say, I have never seen that feature before. I've researched about it and it doesn't really suck performance wise. I'm now looking for network performance of the zacate boards.

I can prolly use it as a HTPC rig too!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on October 07, 2011, 01:39:16 AM
What kind of performance are you looking for?

Check out the Buffalo Linkstation Duo LS-WXLE (enclosure) only cost 4.5k, two drive bays, in RAID1 @ 40mb/s transfers (Single drive, I'm getting 16-18mb/s real world while torrents are downloading), DLNA server, Bonjour and Bittorrent server, USB2.0 for Drive add ons or Print Server, Gigabit LAN, Kirkwood 1.6Ghz processor.

It's not as fast as a QNAP Turbo or Synlogy solutions, but it's cheap, power friendly and been reliable so far for me.

It's definitely faster than my old torrent Fileserver (AthlonXP 2500+ WinXP, Bittorrent, 525W Hec PSU)   

We don't suffer the old hiccups we used to have when two or more videos are being streamed from the old server, compared to the LS.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on October 07, 2011, 05:57:17 PM
If you're serious on getting a real file server, better be ready for the electric bills.  Normal PSUs are inefficient and no matter how miserly your proc, mobo and HDDs, you still waste a lot of electricity on the PSU losses. You can get high -efficiency PSUs but they cost an arm, a leg and your whole body too.

But just to clarify, I have a fileserver, in fact I have 2, with around 11 or 12 HDDs between them.  I pay a heck of a lot to Meralco but I won't be able to live without them anymore. 

Ang suggestion ko, get a normal NAS like that buffalo one, and get a USB3/eSATA dock. Then get a bunch of HDD and only attach them to your PC (or NAS) when needed.


Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on October 07, 2011, 06:13:49 PM
thank you for your help! i'm already good with the 16mb transfers so i'll go for the buffalo linkstation duo or quad.

@bravoexo,
where did you buy your duo?

--tapatalked
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on October 07, 2011, 09:12:48 PM
Complink, SM North Edsa Annex.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Thakker on October 08, 2011, 03:24:27 AM
My PC kept restarting again in the OC lol.

(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp9/Thakkerson/Untitled-23.jpg)

This is what basically happens. After some time (probly 2-3 weeks), thing would degrade to these voltages. 3.3 would go down to 2.9v, 12v mas bababa and restart the whole machine lol. What I do is remove the pc from the wall outlet, sleep, then the the next day ok na yang voltages ko.. 3.3v would be back to 3.25 on load, 12v is 11.9 somthing etc.

Thought it was a PSU thing. I changed my Odin Pro 800w dati.. (funny thing is, dun ko nalaman ito, kasi yung oras na bebenta ko na, I tested the unit again after it was in the shelf for a few weeks.. and it was rock solid stable). The same symptoms sa corsair HX850 ko ngayon lol.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: zer0 on October 08, 2011, 04:05:26 AM
paktay...

nagpaorder na ako ng HX850w.

baka hindi rin psu ang culprit ng restarts ko.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on October 08, 2011, 06:04:17 AM
@zero

na try mo na ba ni-reset yung BIOS?

sometimes, just sometimes it helps out
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: AsusPH on October 19, 2011, 12:03:51 PM
hi everyone, please checkout his product designed for Overclockers and enthusiasts:

Crosshair V Fromula
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa439/powerteq/Crosshair%20V%20Formula/GEDC2366.jpg)
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Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on November 04, 2011, 04:58:12 PM
guys tanong ko lang kung kakayanin ba ng isang mobo header ang 4 na Fan na ito all in parrallel? each fan is 0.28A so so total ba nya noon ay 1.12Amps?

(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i462/mengfei7/picture_00562.jpg)

or mas maigi direct na sa PSU ang mga ito
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 09, 2011, 06:00:10 PM
hi everyone, please checkout his product designed for Overclockers and enthusiasts:

Crosshair V Fromula
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa439/powerteq/Crosshair%20V%20Formula/GEDC2366.jpg)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa439/powerteq/Crosshair%20V%20Formula/GEDC2375.jpg)

form more information about this product: please visit:

http://ph.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/Crosshair_V_Formula/ (http://ph.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/Crosshair_V_Formula/)

Do you have recommendations for X79?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on November 14, 2011, 08:36:35 AM
Anyone recommend a good UPS (aside from APC)
- some cheap ones I've seen in malls are Intex 650-1050va and the Bossline 600va.
- To be used for the NAS, wifi router  and Dsl modem only.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: slide on November 14, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
Anyone recommend a good UPS (aside from APC)
- some cheap ones I've seen in malls are Intex 650-1050va and the Bossline 600va.
- To be used for the NAS, wifi router  and Dsl modem only.

second-hand APC with fresh battery, srsly.  the spec of the FSP ups models sold by PCHub looks decent, but i haven't tried them yet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: slide on November 14, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
guys tanong ko lang kung kakayanin ba ng isang mobo header ang 4 na Fan na ito all in parrallel? each fan is 0.28A so so total ba nya noon ay 1.12Amps?

or mas maigi direct na sa PSU ang mga ito

Direct.  lalo na considering na hindi mga pwm fans yan at laging max current ang hatak.  why 4 small fans?  maingay yan, chief, compared to a single big fan.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on November 14, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
second-hand APC with fresh battery, srsly.  the spec of the FSP ups models sold by PCHub looks decent, but i haven't tried them yet.

I just don't like the whine...I'd rather have the other brands...that only beeps.  :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on November 18, 2011, 01:01:17 PM
need comments on the following set-up (budget is ~30k):

psu: FSP 500watts HEXA series 80PLUS - 2070
mon: Samsung 22" (S22A300B) LCD, LED - 7500
hdd: 500gb WDC Blue - 3430
atx: Cooler Master (RC-343-KKN1) Elite 343 - 1300
vga: Power Color HD 6790 1gb/256bit ddr5 - 5780
cpu: Intel Core i3 2100 3.1GHz (Dual Core) - 4995
mb: lga1155 Asus P8H67-M LE B3 - 3250
ram: 2 x G.Skill Value Ram 4gb ddr3 1333 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBNT) - 1800

Total - 30,125

prices are from PCHub tpc. comments and suggestions are very much welcome.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on November 18, 2011, 02:21:45 PM
man HDDs are freaking expensive nowadays due to the flooding in Thailand :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on November 18, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
and just when Google's Music, Apple's iCloud and Amazon's Kindle Cloud comes online as well.....
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 18, 2011, 04:07:25 PM
Wow 3.4K for 500GB! That would've gotten 1TB just a month or two ago.

2/3TB drives seem to be the least affected so far. ~5k+ for 2TB, was just a tad below 5K before the flooding. ~8k+ for 3TB, was a bit below 8K before floods. I'm off to get a fresh 2TB before things get any worse (which according to the Seagate CEO will happen).
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on November 22, 2011, 10:07:18 PM
Looks like SSD has hit the local malls...

Compex had Patriot Torqx 30gb (3k+), and Pyro 60 gb and Pyro 120gb (9,4k)
 Octagon had Crucial 64Gb M4 Sata III (8k)
 PCX had Corsair Force F40, Force 120 (9.7k)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 26, 2011, 03:33:38 PM
My PC kept restarting again in the OC lol.

This is what basically happens. After some time (probly 2-3 weeks), thing would degrade to these voltages. 3.3 would go down to 2.9v, 12v mas bababa and restart the whole machine lol. What I do is remove the pc from the wall outlet, sleep, then the the next day ok na yang voltages ko.. 3.3v would be back to 3.25 on load, 12v is 11.9 somthing etc.

Thought it was a PSU thing. I changed my Odin Pro 800w dati.. (funny thing is, dun ko nalaman ito, kasi yung oras na bebenta ko na, I tested the unit again after it was in the shelf for a few weeks.. and it was rock solid stable). The same symptoms sa corsair HX850 ko ngayon lol.

Resolved na ba to?
Mobo voltage regulation problem?
Bad kuryente problem?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on December 03, 2011, 01:29:40 PM
need help deciding:
Can the Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 help me get to 4.1-4.3Ghz? or do I need a better mobo?  Ang mahal na kasi nun iba.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: kortzh on December 03, 2011, 02:10:29 PM
were you referring to this Asrock P3G3 (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Pro3%20Gen3)?

it should easily reach 4 - 4.1 GHz.

the non-Gen3 Asrock Z68 Pro3 (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Pro3) should also hit 4GHz easily.


Asrock Gen 3 mobos:
http://www.asrock.com/microsite/pcie3/models.asp

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on December 03, 2011, 06:09:44 PM
eto siya:  http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=13316595
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on December 03, 2011, 06:14:44 PM
need help deciding:
Can the Asrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 help me get to 4.1-4.3Ghz? or do I need a better mobo?  Ang mahal na kasi nun iba.
I have yet to see a Z68 based mobo with a i5/i7 and a good PSU that can't do 4.5ghz.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on December 03, 2011, 07:45:33 PM
Thanks. What is the benefit of getting a gen3? I will not be getting a vid card yet and when i do most likely just mid level one. not a gamer.

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Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on December 06, 2011, 10:42:57 PM
i5 2500k - $180 + Asrock Z68 Fatal1ty Professional Gen3 - $265 = $445 less $50 (if bundled and bought in-store) = $395 + 6% tax.  (Total $419)

Good buy?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on December 08, 2011, 04:33:32 PM
ang mura ah! san store yan? Fry's?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 09, 2011, 11:46:34 AM
May ok pa ba na LGA775 motherboard with DDR3 slots, hopefully full atx size. Hahahaha. May nakita ako isa sa tpd, kaso on-hold bigla. :(
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on December 09, 2011, 12:07:04 PM
@jojitb, that's MicroCenter's December promo...  but I didn't opt for it. (Their Black Friday deal was actually better, $80 off any 1155 board w/ a purchase of a 2500k or 2600k, which are way discounted already)  I instead asked my sis to buy me some tubing, which should be in my hands tonight when I pick her up at the airport.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on December 20, 2011, 08:23:35 AM
Wow, ang baba ng prices ng DRAM mems ngayon ah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 29, 2011, 09:51:54 PM
Wow, ang baba ng prices ng DRAM mems ngayon ah.
sobra! 1k for a 4GB single stick. (DDR3 1333 Patriot), about 1.5k and you get a 4GB 1600 Corsair Vengeance :)

8gb single is still on the expensive side though.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on March 22, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
Hi guys!  what do you think is better between these two?  Gonna be used mainly for Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, etc.


AMD A4-3400 (2.7G) 1mb         
Asrock A55-HVS SFM VSL/ddr3         
Inno3D GT220 series 512mb ddr2      
Kingston 4GB 1333 ddr3         
20” DELL S2009W         
500gb Seagate Barracuda Sata3         
LG 24x GSA-H24LS sata lightscribe         
generic atx case         
FSP HEXA HE500 (Eff>80%) 500w   psu

or

Intel G630 (2.7G) 3mb Pentium DC         
Asus P8H61-M LE/LX H61 V/S/GL   
Inno3D GT220 series 512mb ddr2      
Kingston 4GB 1333 ddr3         
20” DELL S2009W         
500gb Seagate Barracuda Sata3         
LG 24x GSA-H24LS sata lightscribe         
generic atx case         
FSP HEXA HE500 (Eff>80%) 500w   psu
      
halos same price lang sila.
   
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ^_^japol on March 22, 2012, 02:52:30 PM
Probably just more ram.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on March 26, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
Why is Patriot so cheap? I'm looking for basic 4G DDR3-1333 modules for budget build. Doing an informal TPC survey, (sort by price, bnew only, "shops" only) Patriot starts at 880, whereas Kingston (my preferred brand) starts at 950. The Patriot even comes with a heatspreader, while the kingston is bare.

(http://i.imgur.com/XVHy8.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/O2Wji.png)

Timings are the same as far as I can tell. So is the heatspreader just for hiding the cheaper components, or is Patriot just a less-well-known brand? Yeah, it's "just" P140 difference for 2 sticks, but still.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: DarK_SiDe on March 26, 2012, 08:39:35 PM
Hi Guys,
can anyone suggest a good mobo+proc combination na pang File Server? Need atleast 6+ x SATA ports.

okay lang kahit luma - will be running FreeNAS only. Yung P4 ko kasi na fileserver nasira na >< kaya gusto ko iupgrade.

Thanks
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: r8dhex on March 26, 2012, 09:14:47 PM
@DarK_SiDe

E350 is more than powerful enough for file serving, I'm looking at the Asrock E350 ITX, which has 4 SATA ports. ASUS has one with 6 SATA ports http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1I
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: DarK_SiDe on March 26, 2012, 09:41:42 PM
uy nice!! meron pala mga ganitong board - hindi na kasi ako updated sa hardware ngayun.

salamat po!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ^_^japol on April 10, 2012, 10:49:02 AM
I have not upgraded my PC for almost 3 years now so my turn to ask for suggestions :)

Need a decent gaming PC for around 25-30K - including monitor / VC / case / mouse / kb

-

Also a separate VC for around 8K - Mostly FPS on a 22inch monitor for another PC

txs txs
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on April 10, 2012, 12:15:08 PM
Wait til May... for IB?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on April 12, 2012, 05:38:18 PM
any feedback on Aerocool PSUs? saw an Aerocool 1.1kW PSU 80Plus Gold selling for just 6.9k.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on May 21, 2012, 09:27:55 AM
Can anyone recommend a good SSD? I'm planning on upgrading my PC's primary drive to one. Don't really need huge space. I'll most likely just put Windows 7 and Diablo 3 hehe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: roskof on May 21, 2012, 10:32:45 AM
Can anyone recommend a good SSD? I'm planning on upgrading my PC's primary drive to one. Don't really need huge space. I'll most likely just put Windows 7 and Diablo 3 hehe.

Crucial M4, mababa ang price ngayon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: superiorx120 on May 21, 2012, 04:30:15 PM
can someone gimme some recommendations for water cooling for my i7920?? corsair h series water cooling h60?,h80,?? antec kuhler?? thanks guys
Title: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on May 22, 2012, 02:26:12 AM
h80 or h100 if your case permits to


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Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on May 23, 2012, 07:33:32 PM
Is the OCZ Agility 3 okay? Wala akong makitang may M4 na nagdedeliver.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on May 23, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
Belay that. I was able to get to reserve one in TPC. Some guy didn't push through his reservation.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on May 24, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
To answer, Agility3. On a sata3 interface = blazing fast
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on May 24, 2012, 02:01:35 PM
Got the Crucial M4! Now to try it out when I get home.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on May 24, 2012, 07:50:33 PM
/drool!

been meaning to upgrade my rig and convert it to a hackintosh. I'd definitely get SSD for it... so agility 3 pala ang bang for the buck? looking to get 120gigs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: newcastle_29 on May 25, 2012, 04:11:32 AM
^speaking of SSD's i would definitely go for intel maple crests 330. its cheaper and reliable and with extra software for tuning up your ssd's daily.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on May 25, 2012, 09:04:27 AM
Pero wala pa yata dito e
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: DarK_SiDe on May 25, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Please help recommend a Proc+ matx Mobo. Intel (sandy?)+ Asus board sana.

I'm thinking of just upgrading my main rig instead of buying a new E350m1-i as Torrent rig.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: superiorx120 on May 25, 2012, 06:15:03 PM
should I upgrade my gtx 470 sli and jump to 680? or keep it and wait for upcoming cards?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 25, 2012, 07:45:11 PM
^
Depends on what you're playing, and how long your keep your computer on, and how much you can get for your 470s.
If you sell 6-7k a piece (price based on a tpc search), then that's not much more you have to add to get a 670 (imo much better bang for buck than the 680).

The ASUS 670 DC II Top got a perfect 10/10 from Techpowerup. Faster than 680 performance, for just $420.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hug_lyfe on May 25, 2012, 08:35:20 PM
^
Depends on what you're playing, and how long your keep your computer on, and how much you can get for your 470s.
If you sell 6-7k a piece (price based on a tpc search), then that's not much more you have to add to get a 670 (imo much better bang for buck than the 680).

The ASUS 670 DC II Top got a perfect 10/10 from Techpowerup. Faster than 680 performance, for just $420.

it'll probably be around 25k ($570) here, given the ridiculous markup on asus video cards that i see.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: superiorx120 on May 26, 2012, 01:35:30 PM
mostly I play battlefield 3 and star wars the old republic.  I'm also thinking if I get a single 670 would it be better than 470 sli's?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 26, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
About equal, or so the internet says. The advantage is in lower power and temps.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1256780/brettjvs-470-sli-vs-670-bench-off-both-ocd-now-with-7970-ocd
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: arbee on May 27, 2012, 12:21:43 PM
menyeks, what do you recommend for sata2 interface based SSDs?120GB sized would be good enough for me. just need to load OS, lightroom and diablo3 for it.

thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 27, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
I'm using an Intel SSD 320 on SATA2.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: arbee on May 27, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
I'm using an Intel SSD 320 on SATA2.


any stuff/updates i need to run/note?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 28, 2012, 12:34:03 PM
I just installed Intel SSD Toolbox and that was pretty much it.
Win7 knows not to run defrag on SSDs so there's no problem there, but for XP and older you might need to switch off the scheduled defrag.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on June 11, 2012, 06:37:53 AM
Guys, need your help.  Need to upgrade our PC, budget is limited to 15k, system unit only kahit walang DVD-drive, Autocad and Sketchup use, hanggang doon lang talaga budget.  thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 11, 2012, 07:16:42 AM
You're upgrading from the specs on your sig? What applications or games do you intend to run?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on June 11, 2012, 08:49:50 AM
Louie,
No, it's a different PC from our office, an old Sempron Am2, 1Gb DDR2, 80Gb Hdd. No games, just pure Autocad, Sketchup and Word/Excel.  Been thinking about Intel's G630 or AMD's A-3650 build.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 11, 2012, 12:47:43 PM
Looks like a complete overhaul, then. I suggest an Intel rig. Price/performance on all segments favors them at the moment.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on June 12, 2012, 05:47:00 AM
So, Intel's G630 or Core i3 2100 with onboard graphics?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 12, 2012, 08:05:16 AM
G630 would do fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on June 12, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
If I get the G630, I can get a videocard. Is the Nvidia GT220 1Gb sufficient for 3d sketchup use?

ok, here's what I have quoted from PCX's pricelist, but I can get it lower in other Gilmore shops:


Intel G630 (2.7G) 3mb Pentium DC            2750
Asrock H61M-DGS H61 VSL               2400
Corsair 4GB ddr3                               1030
500gb WDigital Green 64mb Sata3            3200
Thermaltake V2S w/ 450w (litepower)         2450
Palit GT220 1gb ddr3 128bit hdmi            1950

                  total                       13780
               
               
               
            
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 12, 2012, 02:03:53 PM
Haven't seem the specs on that video card but since onboard video can do Aero, I suppose it should do fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: richie on June 12, 2012, 03:27:48 PM
Thanks Louie!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 09:10:53 AM
dudes, i need your help. friend is asking for a "budget" gaming PC specs. budget is 15K pesos (lower is better). for playing skyrim, batman arkham asylum, dragon nest. of course, max settings is not possible at this budget. :lol:

only the processor, motherboard, memory, video card, hard disk, casing and PSU are needed. will probably buy at PCX ATC. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on July 11, 2012, 09:58:33 AM
How about this? I play semi high in Diablo 3 with this video card with my Core 2 Duo running near this speed. Mine is at 3Ghz and these specs are for 2.6Ghz stock. My monitor is 1440x900. Dragon Nest is full tilt for me :)

cpu: Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz (Dual Core)  PHP 2400.00
mb: lga1155 Asrock H61M DGS  PHP 2340.00
ram: Kingston HyperX Blu 4gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (KHX1600C9D3B1/4G)  PHP 1390.00
vga: Power Color HD 6750 1gb/128bit ddr3  PHP 4520.00
atx: Cooler Master (RC-343-KKN1) Elite 343 Black  PHP 1300.00
psu: Cooler Master GX 650watts  PHP 3370.00

Total: 15320
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
How about this? I play semi high in Diablo 3 with this video card with my Core 2 Duo running near this speed. Mine is at 3Ghz and these specs are for 2.6Ghz stock. My monitor is 1440x900. Dragon Nest is full tilt for me :)

cpu: Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz (Dual Core)  PHP 2400.00
mb: lga1155 Asrock H61M DGS  PHP 2340.00
ram: Kingston HyperX Blu 4gb ddr3 1600 CL9 (KHX1600C9D3B1/4G)  PHP 1390.00
vga: Power Color HD 6750 1gb/128bit ddr3  PHP 4520.00
atx: Cooler Master (RC-343-KKN1) Elite 343 Black  PHP 1300.00
psu: Cooler Master GX 650watts  PHP 3370.00

Total: 15320

looks good! pwede pa kaya babaan yung video card at yung PSU para makamura? student lang kasi eh. salamat!

naglalaro ka pa ng dragon nest? saang server ka?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on July 11, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
Westwood server. You can bring down vidcard and psu sure. 550w and 6570

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Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
Westwood server. You can bring down vidcard and psu sure. 550w and 6570

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okay salamat!

talagang mas recommended ang intel dual core kaysa athlon ano? may mga nabasa akong ganun daw eh. kawawa naman athlon ko... T_T
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on July 11, 2012, 06:59:25 PM
Yeah it's Intel on every price point at the moment.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 07:12:42 PM
ayus napababa yung pesyo, magdadala sya ng 15K tapos tignan na lang namin kung ano available. kung kasya, upgrade ko ng kaunti yung parts


Intel G620 (2.6G) 3mb Pentium DC   2400
Asrock H61M-VS H61 VS/L           2280
PQI / Elixir 4GB                                   1050
PC HD6570 1gb ddr3 128bit           2920
Gigabyte GZ-F3                           1010
FSP Supersonic 600w                   3020
Total                                            12680

okay na ba ito?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on July 11, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Wait, dude. I just noticed that I forgot to include an hdd >.<
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 08:01:16 PM
haha! kaya pala parang mura. buti di ko pa natetext yung bibili.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 08:02:53 PM
Intel G620 (2.6G) 3mb Pentium DC   2400
Asrock H61M-VS H61 VS/L           2280
PQI / Elixir 4GB                                   1050
PC HD6570 1gb ddr3 128bit           2920
Gigabyte GZ-F3                           1010
FSP Supersonic 600w                   3020
500gb Seagate Barracuda Sata3   3230
                                                 15910

mukha talagang lalagpas.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on July 11, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
You can get a generic case with psu
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 11, 2012, 08:28:20 PM
is there a "good enough" case and PSU? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on July 12, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
is there a "good enough" case and PSU? thanks!

A lot of generic ATX cases are good enough. Most of the expensive cases are bought more for the bling. I'm using a plain generic case for my HackMini.

Yung PSU ang medyo mahirap (hirap talaga ako mag-skimp dito), but if your friend will just be running stock the bundled PSU should be enough for now. Later na lang mag-upgrade.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on July 12, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
okay, got it. thanks!

my stock PSU did last for about a year before it went down then i had it replaced with FSP.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hungree on July 25, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
Can you guys suggest a good 3k worth WiFi AP router for home use only? Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on July 25, 2012, 07:55:05 PM
Personally I'd get the one from CD-R King with the custom firmware. That's what I use.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on August 18, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
My current mobo is an AMD780G Emaxx board with 128MB sideport.  It's working fine for now but I'm bothered that it's USB ports can no longer power 2.5" external hard drives (even with 2 ports) so I am thinking of replacing it.

To keep costs down, I'd like to keep using my DDR2 mems and procie and so far this is the only board I've seen that still supports am3 and DDR2:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=N68C-GS%20FX (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=N68C-GS%20FX)

(http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/Angle/N68C-GS%20FX%28m%29.jpg)

Since I only use onboard video, my question is with regards to the graphics chip, which is:

Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce 7025 graphics, DX9.0 VGA, Pixel Shader 3.0

Will this graphics chip be a "downgrade" from the AMD780G?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: superiorx120 on August 18, 2012, 03:32:40 PM
hi guys! I'm planning to upgrade my gtx 470 sli to 670's and sli them.  But I dont know which one to get.  Should I get the evga ftw or the asus dc ii ?? Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: DarK_SiDe on August 19, 2012, 11:54:12 AM
Need suggestion for a UPS/AVR. Will be using it to protect my FreeNAS box (running 2x 2TB; 4x 250GB disks).

Yung mga binebenta sa TPC - puro refurbished ApC SmartUPS, okay lang ba un?

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on August 20, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
Need suggestion for a UPS/AVR. Will be using it to protect my FreeNAS box (running 2x 2TB; 4x 250GB disks).

Yung mga binebenta sa TPC - puro refurbished ApC SmartUPS, okay lang ba un?

Thanks guys!

if replace battery lang, it should be ok. pero kung ibang internals na, mahirap na. :(
usually battery lang naman unang bumibigay sa UPS eh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 16, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
guys am upgrading my PC in preparation of XCom (and to be able to record Dragon Nest videos for my guides).

what do you think of these specs?

Intel Pentium G840 2.8GHz (Dual Core) - 2940.00
Geil Enhance Corsa 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 - 1100.00
Asus P8H61 M LX3 Plus                          -  2380.00
Power Color HD 7750 1gb/128bit ddr5  -  4700.00
FSP Raider 550watts 80PLUS Bronze     - 2530.00
Aerocool (Strike X One)                          - 1850.00
TOTAL                                                     - 15500.00

Got the pricelist from:
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub (http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub)
They have a branch in Festival Mall so I'm gonna buy there.

i will use my current hard disk and DVD Writer for now.

so, are those good enough specs? can parts be replaced to optimize?

concerns:
1. i am not sure if the CPU, RAM and motherboard and case are compatible with each other.
2. the video card doesn't have a VGA port, but my monitor only has VGA. is there a converter available?

thanks!

it'll replace my aging athlon II X2 2.8 GHx, 2GB RAM, nVivia 9600 system. surprisingly, i could play skyrim at high settings on it, though i had to quit playing because i get dizzy after a while. i have no idea why i don't experience the same problem with dragon nest.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Capcom on September 17, 2012, 12:05:18 AM
check out the GTX 650... same price range sya dyan sa 7750
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: borgy_t on September 17, 2012, 12:20:56 AM
about VGA port. i think there are dvi-vga converters available in cdr-king.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 17, 2012, 06:22:24 AM
check out the GTX 650... same price range sya dyan sa 7750
thanks! ngayon ko lang nalaman tungkol dyan. tinignan ko pricelist nila, mukhang limited quantities pa lang GTX 650. kung meron nyan pagbili ko this week, yan pipillin ko. kung wala, 7750.

kailangan ko kasi this week bumili kasi may bibili ng luma kong PC.

about VGA port. i think there are dvi-vga converters available in cdr-king.
okay, got it. thanks! should i expect some problems with a converter?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: kortzh on September 17, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Quote
the video card doesn't have a VGA port, but my monitor only has VGA. is there a converter available?

DVI-VGA converters are already bundled in most videocards.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 17, 2012, 11:57:26 AM
noted. i just hope what i'll purchase does come with that to avoid hassle.

so what about the specs then? are they reasonable for what i intend to do? no incompatibilities? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 18, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
guys, i have already bought my new rig. thanks for the suggestions!

some things were altered. there was no G840, so i settled with G630 (still a decent CPU, according to tests).

also, Capcom suggested the GTX 650, but when i looked at their pricelist yesterday there was only 1 available at Gilmore, none at Festival. when i went to the store this morning and gave them the list of items i want, i was told that the 7750 is out of stock so i asked if there's a GTX 650. the salesperson pointed to the box i was leaning on and - whoa! - it's a GTX 650 that just arrive 20 minutes before i went to the store! so i settled for that.

i had to buy a new SATA DVD ROM drive, though. my old IDE drive is no longer supported by new mobos. my old SATA HDs were flawlessly detected and are now humming along. as if i am out of my mind, i had 2 120 mm fans installed, both of them emitting red light which made my cooler master RC-350 (http://www.coolermaster.co.nz/product.php?product_id=6776) look like a bad ass.


 >:D

i'll try to upload pics.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: borgy_t on September 19, 2012, 01:00:49 AM
congrats!! how much was the gtx 650? :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 19, 2012, 02:31:15 PM
P4710. almost the same price range as radeon 7750.

i'm loving my new PC. now i can record Dragon Nest videos for my guide at higher resolution than before. i think the settings are at full AA but that hardly slows things down. now i can PVP more effectively. :lol:

also one thing i noticed is that even when playing DN, GPU temp is only at around 50 degrees C and 37 degrees C at idle. according to what i have read, my other choice, radeon 7750 runs hot due to its small cooler. so really, i guess i was lucky gtx 650 arrived the same day i had to buy it. and yeah, thank you very much Capcom for suggesting it, otherwise i might have ended up with an inferior card.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: borgy_t on September 19, 2012, 03:36:01 PM
cool. i'm thinking if i should replace my 5750 with either a gtx 650 or the gtx550ti.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on September 20, 2012, 03:09:17 AM
First order of the day: go to the nvidia control panel and turn on "Adaptive Vsync"

It's basically a special implementation of vsync that keeps it on when your framerates are at or above the monitor's refresh rate, then turns it off when it goes below. You might see even more power savings because it'll cap your framerate to your monitor's refresh instead of rendering at >100fps needlessly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: AJ on September 20, 2012, 08:13:23 AM
congrats sephiroth! post pics!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hungree on September 20, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
Guys, Is downgrading from Sapphire 7850 2GB to GTX 650 worth it?
Possible po bang bumaba yung electirc bill namin pag ginawa ko to?
Last electric bill po kasi namin 3.5k and appliance na gamit lang namin is Refrigerator / CRT TV / 4 x Desk Fan and 2 Ceiling Fan / Washing Machine.
Desktop usage is 1-4hrs weekdays and almost 24hrs for weekends. Full system specs is below.

Core-i3 2100
8gb DDR3 1600 RAM
HD 7850 2GB
WD Blue 500GB
15" LCD Monitor

edit:

Sorry forgot to include PSU Seasonic 520W M1211520
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on September 20, 2012, 02:29:33 PM
you forgot your power supply.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on October 01, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
First order of the day: go to the nvidia control panel and turn on "Adaptive Vsync"

It's basically a special implementation of vsync that keeps it on when your framerates are at or above the monitor's refresh rate, then turns it off when it goes below. You might see even more power savings because it'll cap your framerate to your monitor's refresh instead of rendering at >100fps needlessly.
thanks for the tip! i have already followed your advice.

congrats sephiroth! post pics!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/5447/p1010340y.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img267/4397/p1010339v.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img3/6671/p1010341ph.jpg)

my apologies for the poor shots. my camera is so old. gotta get a new one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 01, 2012, 08:49:25 PM
Guys, Is downgrading from Sapphire 7850 2GB to GTX 650 worth it?
15" LCD Monitor

You'll save about 40W under load., 4W on idle1. Up to you to do the math on it, but if you can do it without losing money then its not a bad idea, considering even the 650 is overkill for your monitor.

1 TPU power consumptions figures for 7850 (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/26.html), GTX650 (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_650_Power_Edition/25.html).
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 01, 2012, 08:51:47 PM
pics

Congrats!
Oh yeah, since you have a side window a little cable management might be in order. =)

There should be some holes in the motherboard tray and other compartments where you can push wires through so that cables are in the space behind the tray until except for their endpoints.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on October 01, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
lol it looks that bad huh?  :lol:  the sata cables i attached myself because i left my HDs at home. most of the other cables were hidden under the mobo tray by the technician.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hungree on October 02, 2012, 08:42:40 AM
Guys, Is downgrading from Sapphire 7850 2GB to GTX 650 worth it?
15" LCD Monitor

You'll save about 40W under load., 4W on idle1. Up to you to do the math on it, but if you can do it without losing money then its not a bad idea, considering even the 650 is overkill for your monitor.

1 TPU power consumptions figures for 7850 (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/26.html), GTX650 (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_650_Power_Edition/25.html).

Thanks sir splerdu for the inputs. From the chart it says I can save a lot of power  What do you mean by "if you can do it without losing money then its not a bad idea" I don't get the thought. Is upgrading my screen also saves power or lowering settings?



Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on October 16, 2012, 05:07:43 PM
mga boss any suggestions for a <5K video card for my new i5-3570k rig (asrock z77 mobo)?

I'm not really a gamer anymore I just need a videocard that is more powerful than the built-in video of the mobo but still  has relatively low power consumption.  Preferable nvidia as I have always had bad luck with ATI. Also I prefer having CUDA support. for reference my C2d @ 3GHz has a 8400gs card. Medyo mabagal but has DXVA support. I want something that will also last 3-5years.

matipid ba sa kuryente ang GTX550? GTX560? san ba mura? puwede din ako pabili sa US kung mas mura dun.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xd9999 on November 15, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
ah hello, patulong naman.

Plano ko mag upgrade mula sa AMD X2 to intel. kaya lang di ko sigurado kung alin ang pipiliin sa i5 o i7. Sabi sa net ay optimal ang i7 para sa video/audio editing at ang i5 sa gaming. Halos hindi naman ako nag eedit ng vids or audio at mostly gaming ako. Leaning ako ngayon sa i5 pero nag aalala ako dahil binigyan ako ng 42" HDTV Sony Bravia ni kapatid. Nag aalinlangan ako na baka mag lag or delay pa dun on high settings, kasi sabi nila bigger monitor equals bigger burden on the graphics card. At gusto ko naman mag indulge sa high settings while gaming.

Nag tingin ako malapit dito, HYPERTECH ang tindahan.

PROCESSOR:
i7 3770 3.4ghz (Ivy Bridge)
i5 3770k 3.4 ghz (Ivy Bridge)

MotherBoard:
Intel DH77EB (Ivy Bridge)
Asus [di ko na matandaan code] (Ivy Bridge)

Memory/RAM:
Team Elite DDR3 8gb (baka mga dalawa, P 2,500.00 isa.)

Video Card:
Sparkle GT 630 - 4gb
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Nag-aalinlangan ako sa i5 at i7 kasi apat na libo rin ang deperensya.

Anu pipiliin ko?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on November 16, 2012, 05:46:34 AM
i5 tapos mas mabilis na video card
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: zer0 on November 16, 2012, 06:35:16 AM
i5 + hd7850
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xd9999 on November 16, 2012, 09:35:18 AM
i5 tapos mas mabilis na video card

anung mas mabilis na card? yun lang kasi pinaka mataas dun eh 4GB.

i5 + hd7850

di ba 2 GB yan yun? bakit mas mabuti sya sa 4 GB?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on November 16, 2012, 10:11:59 AM
Yung GPU kasi parang maliit na computer din yan. Isipin mo yung core yung processor tapos yung memory parang RAM lang yan. Now ang Celeron kahit na 8GB ang RAM mas mabagal sa games kaysa sa Core i7 na naka 2GB. Ganun din sa video card. Kung maganda yung core (tulad ng 7850) mas mabilis yun kaysa sa 4GB na mas mahina.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xd9999 on November 17, 2012, 06:58:51 PM
malaki kasi yung tv ko eh. nag aalinlangan ako baka mag lag mga games kapag 2gb lang video card.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 18, 2012, 08:53:26 PM
^ it's about resolution and not the physical size of the screen,  gaming on any 1080p (1920x1080) monitor from the smallest to the biggest will have the same performance on the same vidcard.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: thankyouvince on November 19, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
Sir, i would like to hear from you guys kung anu pinakamagandang gaming Video Card na mabibili ko sa halagang 3k pababa? Di ako syadong hard gamer yung tipong prang smooth lng ok na kht nd max resolution. Di naman kc gaming rig ko, 2 gb DDR3 tska Dual Core e5200 lang gamit ko. Ok na ung basta smooth NBA2k13 at ibang online games. Di kasi ko contented sa ATI HD 5450 e. Meron ba? 3k pababa lang budget ko since student plng ako hehe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xd9999 on November 20, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
^ it's about resolution and not the physical size of the screen,  gaming on any 1080p (1920x1080) monitor from the smallest to the biggest will have the same performance on the same vidcard.

akala ko dependent sa video card ang performance ng games on higher resolution or highest settings.
ibig bang sabihin walang pagkakaiba ang 2gb vs 4gb na video card?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 20, 2012, 01:02:45 PM
^ it's about resolution and not the physical size of the screen,  gaming on any 1080p (1920x1080) monitor from the smallest to the biggest will have the same performance on the same vidcard.

akala ko dependent sa video card ang performance ng games on higher resolution.
ibig bang sabihin walang pagkakaiba ang 2gb vs 4gb na video card?


to simplify:

1. GTX 680 2GB on a "21 TV/Monitor @ 1080p (1920x1080) will perform exactly the same on even the largest screensize TV/Monitor @ 1080p

2. GTX 680 4GB on a "21 TV/Monitor @ 1080p (1920x1080) will perform slightly better than the 2GB version on  "21 to the largest screensize TV @ 1080p

3. GTX 680 4GB @ 1600p (2560x1600) will perform better than the 2GB version @ 1600p (2560x1600)


hth
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xd9999 on November 20, 2012, 01:59:55 PM
^ it's about resolution and not the physical size of the screen,  gaming on any 1080p (1920x1080) monitor from the smallest to the biggest will have the same performance on the same vidcard.

akala ko dependent sa video card ang performance ng games on higher resolution.
ibig bang sabihin walang pagkakaiba ang 2gb vs 4gb na video card?


to simplify:

1. GTX 680 2GB on a "21 TV/Monitor @ 1080p (1920x1080) will perform exactly the same on even the largest screensize TV/Monitor @ 1080p

2. GTX 680 4GB on a "21 TV/Monitor @ 1080p (1920x1080) will perform slightly better than the 2GB version on  "21 to the largest screensize TV @ 1080p

3. GTX 680 4GB @ 1600p (2560x1600) will perform better than the 2GB version @ 1600p (2560x1600)


hth

ah okay, di ibig mong sabihin, sapat na ang 2GB video card para sa 42" TV/Monitor at 1920x1080.
at hindi naman kita ang pagkaka-iba nang 4gb gamit ang same monitor sa 1920x1080 res.

google ako ng konti, sabi halos walang pagkakaiba ang 2gb at 4gb, at least kapag isang monitor lang on the highest settings.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Performance-2GB-vs-4GB-Memory-154

di bale baka ma 2gb na lang ako imbes na 4gb.

---------------------

pahabol naman na tanong para sigurado ako.

1. sapat na ba ang i5 for gaming?
2. mas maganda ba asus na motherboard?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xwolfsonx on December 06, 2012, 09:23:45 AM
Hi peeps new member here and my 1st post.  :happy:

i plan to build another PC (cpu only) for family use like internet, office and also for online games like cabal, rune scape, crossfire  and HON. i just want to limit my budget to just around 11k+ and through my search for price list on the net (PCexpress) i picked the most affordable parts that i can get. im not updated anymore regarding the performance of curent PC parts but have browsed a little bit just to be informed. anyways, the parts are as listed below:

Processor: AMD Llano A4-3400 (2.7 ghz) -  P2,120
Motherboard: Asrock A55-VS SFM - P2,230
Ram: Kingston HyperX ddr1600 4gbx1 - P1,110
HDD: Toshiba 500gb 7200 rpm - P2,390
PSU: FSP Hexa HE500 500w - P2,010
Case: Generic - P990
ODD: Samsung 22x SH-S222/233 sata - P900
TOTAL - P11,750

really dont want to go over the budget. so would this setup be ok for my needs?

TIA
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on December 06, 2012, 12:52:41 PM
A4-3400 has onboard graphics?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 06, 2012, 02:16:04 PM
^ lahat ata ng A-series may integrated GPU.
That's the main thing differentiating them from the regular Athlon/Phenom/FX line.

^^ you should be fine.
8600GT from many years ago runs LoL and HoN decently.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on December 06, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
Yeah, I concur. The LAN shop I helped build back in May 2011 was running an integrated core and ran HoN fine. Just in 1366x768 but it ran fine.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xwolfsonx on December 06, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
A4-3400 has onboard graphics?
based on what ive read the Llano lines has an APU, much like an integrated graphics. i think the graphics is an HD6410. my setup on my sig can still run cabal and HON though less on the eyecandy, but still playable. im hoping that the APU on the A4-3400which is an HD6410 is much capable than my agp  >:D
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xwolfsonx on December 06, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: splerdu link=topic=50597.msg891394#msg891394 >:D date=1354774564
^ lahat ata ng A-series may integrated GPU.
That's the main thing differentiating them from the regular Athlon/Phenom/FX line.

^^ you should be fine.
8600GT from many years ago runs LoL and HoN decently.
yup i think all the A-series has integrated GPU, which i feel are very much appropriate for general use and online games. but i also read enthusiast who pushed their llano's and trinity's to their full potential by overclocking the processor and the gpu. i think they are getting nice numbers on that, but i dont want to go that path. im fine with stock settings that can run 24/7. my PC on my sig is still is ok for my requirements so that goes to show that im just a light PC user. but i just want to make sure that if i buy the Llano A4-3400 i can run my game Cabal, and Rune Scape, HON and Crossfire for my son  >:D 
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xwolfsonx on December 06, 2012, 09:11:36 PM
Yeah, I concur. The LAN shop I helped build back in May 2011 was running an integrated core and ran HoN fine. Just in 1366x768 but it ran fine.
did you use the Llano A-series processors on that build? coz in that case thats a confirmation that the build im planning to buy will be ok for my purpose.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Capcom on December 07, 2012, 05:44:55 AM
suggest ko lang add a little more , mga A6 or A8
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on December 07, 2012, 11:22:45 AM
In the build I had the onboard graphics was on the motherboard.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: xwolfsonx on December 07, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
@ louie, splerdu & capcom
thanks for your inputs. i guess my plan build would be just fine for my needs. maybe i'll stretch a bit on the processor if budget permits.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: scrambler on December 12, 2012, 12:17:01 AM
Hi folks,

I recently upgraded my old Athlon 64 socket 754 to an A6 3670k (along with new mobo and memory). I'm looking to replace my 8-year old 80 GB Seagate SATA hardrive with a new one. I haven't been keeping up with the latest reviews so I'd like to ask for suggestions about which one to pick. I've been scanning the PCX price lists and the available brands are Toshiba, Hitachi, WD (blue, green, black) and Seagate. I'll be using it as my boot drive (drive C) and partition it for storage as well. I have a 250 GB SATA drive that I use as back-up (looking at the capacity of the new drives, 250 GB seems puny).



Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on December 12, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
Look here:

http://forum.pinoypc.net/index.php?topic=56288.0

How about SSD?


Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on December 12, 2012, 12:33:26 PM
Look here:

http://forum.pinoypc.net/index.php?topic=56288.0

How about SSD?




Ok ang SSD for the speed boost, but it looks like he also needs the space.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: scrambler on December 12, 2012, 01:34:35 PM
@Wally,


Thanks for the link. Re: SSD, perhaps next time when budget allows. I haven't used other brands but my Seagate drives have been reliable so far (as I said, my primary drive is a noisy 8 year old 80 GB Seagate SATA) so maybe I'll go for those again. You guys suggest I get the 7200.12 and newer? Any other suggestions?


Thanks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on December 17, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
Choosing from 2 gaming laptops:

1.  Asus k45vm-vx073r, core i5, 4GB RAM, 2GB video
2.  Dell Inspiron 14r (5420), core i7, 6GB RAM, 1 GB video

I checked the vidcards on these and both are nVidia GeForce GT 630M DDR3.

Which would be better?  Asus is on i5 and 4GB RAM but 2GB video.  Dell is on i7 and 6GB RAM but only 1GB video.

The Dell is cheaper by 2,000 pesos, BTW.  It will be used mostly for online games. 

What is the most graphics-intensive online game right now?  Will the Dell's 1GB video RAM be enough for that?  Will the Dell's Core i7 compensate for any shortcoming of the graphics?

Thanks in advance guys.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 17, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
For a single monitor 1GB VRAM should be more than enough. From the model numbers I'm guessing those are probably running 14"1366x768 or 1280x720 screens, in which case 1GB is probably overkill.

Other factors (like build quality) notwithstanding, I'd go for the i7.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on December 17, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
Thanks for the reply.  Keep the expert opinions coming...
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ris on February 27, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
ano sirs ang suggest nyo na bang for buck setup for 30k?  will 7770 radeons be a good midrange card?  any good deals lately?  planning to buy an LG 24inch led monitor to go with the whole setup.  included na sa 30k yung monitor.  di parin ako nakakabili ng bagong pc hanggang ngayon!  lolz!  gumawa na ako ng topic dati at nabaon na nga ngayon di parin ako nagpapalit ng setup.  ano na okay ngayon na setup?  particular lang ako sa motherboard na may 8 SATA kasi madami akong sata devices
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ris on March 11, 2013, 02:27:04 PM
asus or asrock motherboard?  parang walang pumapansin nitong hardware thread ngayon...
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on March 11, 2013, 04:28:29 PM
asus or asrock motherboard?  parang walang pumapansin nitong hardware thread ngayon...
Asrock. Bang for the buck. Very stable. Can use old cpu hsf holes.
Asus if you'll buy Core2 series and older.


particular lang ako sa motherboard na may 8 SATA kasi madami akong sata devices
Asrock. Asus mobos are handicapped if not high end.


ano sirs ang suggest nyo na bang for buck setup for 30k?  will 7770 radeons be a good midrange card?  any good deals lately?  planning to buy an LG 24inch led monitor to go with the whole setup.  included na sa 30k yung monitor.
I can't really recommend anything because all of most of them are now very cost efficient.

But here's what I'd build if it'll be my setup. It'd be wise to add a little more to your budget and buy a little more expensive hardware than to upgrade again soon.

LG 23" led monitor = ~7.5k
Asrock z77 Extreme6 = ~8k  (I'm using this, very solid motherboard with 8 internal sata ports and 4 e-sata)
i5-3570 = ~8k
GTX 660 = 9.6k
===========================
G-Skill 2x4GB ram = ~2.7k
1TB HDD = ~3.2k



You may also want to check out TPC for cheaper alternatives, the second hand ones.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ris on March 12, 2013, 01:31:53 AM
thanks sa suggestions

dito ako sa shop na ito bibili.  kasi medyo kilala ko owner at payag daw sya mag discount pag whole set ang binili ko.  hehehe!  http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=dynaquestpc

i currently have 6 hard drives with varying capacities already.  pero iniisip ko nga na bumili ng isang black or better hard drive for the OS/main drive para mas matibay.  any suggestions?  wag siguro ssd noh?  hehehe!

yung 24 inch ng lg is only 8300.  parang yun gusto ko kasi slim led sya with little price difference from 23inch.  TN panel type nga lang.

how about radeon video cards?  better value ba pag nvidia?

and baka babaan ko din yung proc kasi pang net at video playing lang yung pc ko madalas.  may konting gaming pero para mag try lang at hindi ko naman tatapusin yung game.  hehehe!

btw, nahihirapan na magplay ng 1080i videos itong pc ko.  matagal magload pag nag skip ako ng scenes.  siguro naman pag naka i3 at 7770 na radeon ako kakayanin na yun diba?  ito kasi plano ko.  hopefully maka suggest pa kayo kung ano ang okay.

naka old sata technology pa nga mobo ko kaya di ko sure if its the transfer rate of the hard drive or the proc and video card.  hehehe!

eto specs ko:

x2 4400
2gb ram
8600gt nvidia

is it the specs that is making the video load slow or the hard drive speed?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on March 13, 2013, 09:04:22 PM
^It could be your driver. That specs should be able to play 1080p videos without hitch.

Any HDD should be fine. There's really no "reliable" hdd manufacturer these days.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheeyan on March 17, 2013, 08:27:02 PM
Hello everyone!

just wanna ask a list of parts na massuggest nyo sa budget na 17k Php around 18k (Max) na siguro.
I need CPU, Motherboard, Memory, HDD/SSD, and Power supply. no need na case since meron nako. pc will be used for browsing, playing videos, storing files and playing games. not really hardcore games.

thanks guys! hope you can help me ;D
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on March 17, 2013, 09:45:34 PM
 
^It could be your driver. That specs should be able to play 1080p videos without hitch.

Any HDD should be fine. There's really no "reliable" hdd manufacturer these days.

RAM is not enough for hd playback? What player are you using?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ris on March 18, 2013, 03:08:11 AM
windows media player 10.  maybe that could be the problem.  but the hard drive im playing it on is also a bit faulty.  it goes falls back to pio mode at some times and i need to reinstall the ide driver to get it back to dma.  possibly also since im using windows xp or the codecs im using.  anyway, hopefully i would be able to buy my new rig this year so that i will not deal with 1080p playback issues anymore
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 18, 2013, 07:21:50 AM
hi guys! with my acquisition of my first android phone Lenovo A800 i figured i could save a lot of electricity if i use it instead of my PC when surfing (and will also make my room a lot less warm i suppose).

please suggest a good wifi router not worth more than P1500. since i don't know anything about wifi routers, i prefer one that i can use without turning my whole PC on, and that i can use my regular DSL connection without turning on the wifi router.

thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on March 18, 2013, 08:42:10 AM

please suggest a good wifi router not worth more than P1500. since i don't know anything about wifi routers, i prefer one that i can use without turning my whole PC on, and that i can use my regular DSL connection without turning on the wifi router.

thanks!

I don't quite get the last part about using your DSL with the wifi router off.  The wireless router connects to the LAN port of the DSL modem.  You then plug in your PC's LAN cable to the wireless router so that your wired PC and wireless device(s) can share the DSL connection.

For your budget I can suggest CDRking Tomato or DD-WRT flashed routers with usb port (for Torrent downloads without turning on your PC). I think several PPCers (myself included) can attest to it's durability.

Last I checked, these are the only available models from the king:

Tomato-flashed with USB
CW-5356U
CW-5354U

DD-WRT flashed without USB
WRT-688
WRT-988
CW-5354

I also saw a seller of Belkin N300 routers (for 1.5k) at sulit.com.ph.  Those can be flashed to DD-WRT or Tomato firmware later on when you're feeling adventurous.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 18, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
Quote
I don't quite get the last part about using your DSL with the wifi router off.  The wireless router connects to the LAN port of the DSL modem.  You then plug in your PC's LAN cable to the wireless router so that your wired PC and wireless device(s) can share the DSL connection.
even with the WiFi Router off, can i still use DSL as usual?

Quote
For your budget I can suggest CDRking Tomato or DD-WRT flashed routers with usb port (for Torrent downloads without turning on your PC).
can regular flash drives be used?

i've been hearing about these tomato flash wifi. what's special about them anyway?

thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on March 18, 2013, 04:49:13 PM
Quote
I don't quite get the last part about using your DSL with the wifi router off.  The wireless router connects to the LAN port of the DSL modem.  You then plug in your PC's LAN cable to the wireless router so that your wired PC and wireless device(s) can share the DSL connection.
even with the WiFi Router off, can i still use DSL as usual?



Nope, unless you disconnect the router and connect directly to the modem.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 18, 2013, 08:21:31 PM
ah, i see. well that sucks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on March 18, 2013, 08:39:52 PM
Why do you want to turn the router off? It only consumes a few watts of AC, at most still significantly less than a PC or even a laptop.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 18, 2013, 08:40:52 PM
Paranoid about the neighbors?
Gamit ka ng switch!

Modem
   |
Switch---Wifi Router
   |
 PC

The PC can connect via NAT through the router, or direct on its own. If your DSL plan supports multiple IPs, you can even have direct internet connections on both the router and the PC at the same time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 18, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
Why do you want to turn the router off? It only consumes a few watts of AC, at most still significantly less than a PC or even a laptop.
i wanna turn it off at night. i can't sleep if i know there's something else other than my electric fan that's running.

Paranoid about the neighbors?
Gamit ka ng switch!

Modem
   |
Switch---Wifi Router
   |
 PC

The PC can connect via NAT through the router, or direct on its own. If your DSL plan supports multiple IPs, you can even have direct internet connections on both the router and the PC at the same time.
imma n00b. i wanna take things one step at a time. NAT is something i am also not familiar with.

sorry guys, but it's really my first time to think about these stuff, so thank you for your patience.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 18, 2013, 09:14:32 PM
I thought you were being paranoid about your neighbors stealing wifi so you wanted to turn off the router.

NAT means your PC gets its IP address from the router. Basically your router is connected to the modem, and handles your internet connection. Your PC connects to the internet through the router, and the IP address on your PC will be something like 192.168.1.x. It's probably the best way to connect if you're newbie because the router acts as a firewall and protects your PC from nasty stuff.

I suggested the switch because I thought you wanted to switch off just the wifi, but since your objective is to keep running appliances at a minimum it probably wont help (because you just exchange the router for a switch). Just use the router. You can still disable wifi via the router configuration, and it will keep your PC safe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on March 18, 2013, 09:20:36 PM
Why do you want to turn the router off? It only consumes a few watts of AC, at most still significantly less than a PC or even a laptop.
i wanna turn it off at night. i can't sleep if i know there's something else other than my electric fan that's running.



Then you can't use the wifi on your fone because the wifi router is off anyway. Unless your modem has wifi anyway (w/c case you don't really need to buy one) or your fone has an ethernet plug or USB to ethernet adapter.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 18, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
I thought you were being paranoid about your neighbors stealing wifi so you wanted to turn off the router.

NAT means your PC gets its IP address from the router. Basically your router is connected to the modem, and handles your internet connection. Your PC connects to the internet through the router, and the IP address on your PC will be something like 192.168.1.x. It's probably the best way to connect if you're newbie because the router acts as a firewall and protects your PC from nasty stuff.

I suggested the switch because I thought you wanted to switch off just the wifi, but since your objective is to keep running appliances at a minimum it probably wont help (because you just exchange the router for a switch). Just use the router. You can still disable wifi via the router configuration, and it will keep your PC safe.
got it. thanks! i can still setup password (and perhaps rename my WIFI?) even without NAT, right?

Why do you want to turn the router off? It only consumes a few watts of AC, at most still significantly less than a PC or even a laptop.
i wanna turn it off at night. i can't sleep if i know there's something else other than my electric fan that's running.



Then you can't use the wifi on your fone because the wifi router is off anyway. Unless your modem has wifi anyway (w/c case you don't really need to buy one) or your fone has an ethernet plug or USB to ethernet adapter.
i just won't be using WiFi while i'm asleep. peace of mind, that's all for me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on March 18, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
^Then you can set the router settings to disable wifi at night. Or as I said, disconnect the router and plug the PC directly to the modem.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 18, 2013, 10:02:56 PM
^Then you can set the router settings to disable wifi at night. Or as I said, disconnect the router and plug the PC directly to the modem.
yeah that's what i'll do i suppose.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 19, 2013, 03:15:06 PM
suppose there are no units of those suggested CDR King routers available, what else can you recommend? i will buy at Festival Mall Alabang so i'll try PCHub/Edge computers as an alternative.

http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub (http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub)

are those Asus routers good for my needs? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 20, 2013, 12:01:50 AM
N13 is a good basic router. Plus it's cheap.
N66 is an awesome do-everything router. It can download your torrents, share your printer, work as a file/media server, etc... But it costs $$$.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 23, 2013, 10:22:18 PM
N13 is a good basic router. Plus it's cheap.
N66 is an awesome do-everything router. It can download your torrents, share your printer, work as a file/media server, etc... But it costs $$$.
that looks like a good router (to my n00b eyes anyway :lol: )

it can DL torrents even while PC is off? hmm...
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on March 23, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
I'm still using CDRK's 5354U router/torrent. After 2yrs still working great. :)
Wan Taw Payb Handred Peytot UNLI!



(http://www.cdrking.com/UserFiles/Image/BRYAN/bryan/6.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on March 26, 2013, 11:18:08 AM
Only limitation to that awesome router is that it's only up to Wireless G.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 26, 2013, 08:48:10 PM
change of plans. i was to buy n13 buy i had to also buy a new headset as my current one is broken beyond repair (right piece is dangling by the wire lol). had to downgrade the router to RT-N10+ C1 (http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN10Plus_C1/). i wasn't able to consult you guys as i was in a rush to get back home.

was my purchase good?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on March 26, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
DD-WRT firmware available... you're good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 26, 2013, 11:00:54 PM
wifi successfully setup.... i think. am using my phone to post this. problem is that browser was supposed to launch after setting up hardware. it did but since connection was still not established it did not direct to asus quick setup service. lol. ill explore more tomorrow.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 27, 2013, 09:20:55 AM
DD-WRT firmware available... you're good.
thanks! i guess my instincts saved me again. lol.

but what's that for?

i finally figured out how to launch that browser thingie. i guess my wireless setup at home is all set up! thanks for the help guys!


probably the biggest benefit of a wireless setup for me is that i can now check my email, surf the web and update through my phone. will probably save a lot on electricity and will not raise the temp of my room too much during summer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on March 27, 2013, 09:25:53 AM
DD-WRT firmware available... you're good.
thanks! i guess my instincts saved me again. lol.

but what's that for?

i finally figured out how to launch that browser thingie. i guess my wireless setup at home is all set up! thanks for the help guys!

Well it offers a lot more router control (security, torrents, etc.). But familiarize yourself first with the stock FW, for most users its usually enough.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on March 27, 2013, 09:45:44 AM
I first dabbled into dd-wrt for the qos
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 27, 2013, 10:40:37 AM
DD-WRT firmware available... you're good.
thanks! i guess my instincts saved me again. lol.

but what's that for?

i finally figured out how to launch that browser thingie. i guess my wireless setup at home is all set up! thanks for the help guys!

Well it offers a lot more router control (security, torrents, etc.). But familiarize yourself first with the stock FW, for most users its usually enough.
okay, thanks!

i ran into a problem just now. last night connecting with my phone is no trouble, but now after i arranged the hardware setup so that i won't step on or kick the router and ran the software setup i can't connect. or rather my phone can connect but disconnects.

dammit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 27, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
i reset everything then everything's back to norm. lol
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: berdugoh on May 27, 2013, 03:16:03 PM
Guys, can you please suggest a low profile video card that is i available here in PH? Will use for editing video. Budget 6K. Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: uvax on June 04, 2013, 07:31:18 PM
Guys, I'm looking to upgrade the hdd on my pc to SSD. I'm looking at around 240GB range. What SSDs would you recommend?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on June 04, 2013, 07:34:13 PM
Crucial M5 or the new OCZ Vertex, or a Samsung 840...
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: uvax on June 04, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
Crucial M5 or the new OCZ Vertex, or a Samsung 840...

Those are pretty pricey. Since my rig is only SATA 3Gb/s I'm not keen on spending so much for the latest and greatest.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on June 04, 2013, 09:37:08 PM
In that case a Crucial M4. I've got the 256Gb mSata version myself, and I think they're pretty cheap as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 17, 2013, 03:56:34 PM
My dad's old Q6600 rig needs a new motherboard and my aging P35 is still running well thanks to the HEC power supply and the solid caps. I am going to give him my motherboard so I'll have to force myself upgrade finally.

I'm thinking of getting either a Haswell or Ivy Bridge i5. Whatever is the most economical K model I can find. For the motherboard, I'm still thinking of what to get but maybe the H77M from Asrock? I'm thinking of doing Crossfirex. My current video card is a 6750. I saw cheap 6770's in TipidPC and am thinking of just doing Crossfirex on them. My monitor is still an old 19" that has a 1440x900 resolution and I don't have enough money to get a 7970.

What do you guys think?

Btw, I already have 12GB of DDR3 lying around in the house so I'm good there. Just need a mobo and processor. Thinking of the Crossfire upgrade.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 17, 2013, 04:13:55 PM
^Go Ivy. Haswell is still not worth its price.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 17, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Olats pala H77, limited yung CPU multiplier. Dapat pala Z77 pa. Ano ba pinakamura na pwede mag x8 x8 na Crossfire?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 17, 2013, 09:04:28 PM
I'm seriously considering Piledriver because of the price difference and the processor unlock. Is it good at a certain price level? I'm thinking of the hexacore solution.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 17, 2013, 09:31:37 PM
AMD's platform is good. ECC support, lots of PCIe lanes, lots of features on the board and cheap to boot... but the chip is crap.

I know you game a lot so:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6
(http://i.imgur.com/H2UTT9X.png)

Even at 4.8 the 8350 doesn't touch the 3570k running at stock. Plus your power bills will pay for the price difference soon enough.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 17, 2013, 09:47:47 PM
Even at 4.8 the 8350 doesn't touch the 3570k running at stock. Plus your power bills will pay for the price difference soon enough.
Tell that to TPC AMDroids. hahahah

+100 on your statement though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 18, 2013, 07:21:34 AM
I'm shit out of luck then. If I were to get a Piledriver instead of an Ivy Bridge, I could afford to upgrade my video card to a 7850 from my 6750.

Ivy Bridge + 6750 or Piledriver + 7850?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 18, 2013, 10:24:30 AM
^you need Ivy to piledrive 6969

Seriously though, get Ivy + z77 if you can. The virtu mvp adds a nice boost to gaming performance.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 18, 2013, 02:41:00 PM
This has thoroughly put a spanner in my plans.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 18, 2013, 05:28:05 PM
It's for a GPU upgrade I think i'd sacrifice the CPU.
Considered going second-hand? CPUs are pretty resilient. i5-2500k!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 18, 2013, 09:15:33 PM
Nasa around 6.8k yata ang 2500k. Parang ang taas ng difference ng benchmark niya compared sa 3570k? Iniisip ko rin bumili nung Haswell na unlocked tsaka motherboard tapos tsaka na yung video card pati cooling.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 18, 2013, 10:36:34 PM
Pwede rin. On the performance side Haswell vs Ivy is pretty close, but the Z87 platform has some advantages going for it. More USB3, more SATA6 basically, plus that new S0IX sleep state.

Sandy is good if you're gonna OC. Clocks higher than either Ivy or Haswell because good fluxless solder underneath the headspreader.. Performance should be close enough, so long as the game/app doesn't make use of the newer AVX instructions.

Here's the bit-tech chart with Haswell added in. For some reason Sandy seems faster. Maybe they re-tested with the new core parking update.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/6 (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/6)
(http://i.imgur.com/Yczd0Lr.png)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 18, 2013, 11:20:10 PM
Pwede rin. On the performance side Haswell vs Ivy is pretty close, but the Z87 platform has some advantages going for it. More USB3, more SATA6 basically, plus that new S0IX sleep state.
But Haswell has USB3 hardware problem.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 19, 2013, 12:56:44 AM
^ That's only when you wake up from S3, and you're hardly going to hit that level sleep with a desktop.

S3 is processor+chipset sleep, but with power to memory is retained. S6 Hibernate isn't affected.

Also there's the new S0IX sleep state that's almost as good as S3, while being as responsive as S0 so you're almost certainly never going to go into S3 with Haswell unless you have a really old OS with no support for S0IX.

There is absolutely no reason to be affected by the USB sleep bug, especially on a desktop.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 19, 2013, 01:24:29 AM
^Ah, yun pala yon, haven't read enough info about it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 19, 2013, 10:01:36 AM
So with Sandy Bridge I can expect a 5Ghz overclock? From the Ivy Bridge reviews I usually see 4.8Ghz. Seems like whatever performance "defiicit" I get for using an older processor is offset by the higher speed. And 5Ghz does have a nice ring to it.

Time to scour TipidPC for a steal on a 2500k then.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 19, 2013, 10:38:21 AM
^I don't think 5ghz is an easy milestone.

Try looking at hwbot.org to see what you could expect.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 19, 2013, 03:47:19 PM
If I go for an FX-6300 machine I end up spending 4k less. Overclocking it to 5ghz would get me nearer to the stock 3570k but of course that chip can overclock even more. I wouldn't have this problem if Intel just had a lower priced unlocked chip. It's just that my budget for processors these days is not at the 10k range. For just 1k more I can buy a new PS3 Slim.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 19, 2013, 04:06:42 PM
Hrmmmm

(http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/FX-6300-FX-4300/FX-6300-FX-4300-83.jpg)

It'd still be slower than a 3570k but I suppose it would be much faster than my Core 2 Duo lol. Still have to think about this.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 19, 2013, 04:37:28 PM
Ever thought of the locked version? If right now you compare them to the unlock's stock clock, chances are high that you will rarely overclock it. For a 1.5k less price, the locked 3570 would go up to 3.7GHz with demanding computations. Right now it can be bought for around 8.2k. A 2nd unit will cost less.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 19, 2013, 05:29:33 PM
Bili ka na lang ng locked na Ivy. You can still OC it 4 bins higher (+400MHz) basically.
Besides, even running stock it's still faster than FX @ 4.8.
i5-3470 @ 7.9k, then you can raise the turbo to 4GHz.

That's the feature that they took away from the non-K versions of Haswell
http://techreport.com/news/24950/intel-removes-modest-free-overclocking-from-standard-haswell-cpus (http://techreport.com/news/24950/intel-removes-modest-free-overclocking-from-standard-haswell-cpus)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 19, 2013, 05:51:33 PM
I'll just bite the bullet and buy whatever unlocked i5 I can get.

I'm thinking of either of these motherboards for something that is up to Ivy Bridge:

Asrock Z77 Pro 4 M   4800
Asrock Z68 Pro3 M   4300
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 19, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
I'll just bite the bullet and buy whatever unlocked i5 I can get.
Good decision.  :happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 19, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
Saw an i7 3770k for 11k in TPC.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 19, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
Do you need that extra HT 4 cores?

By the way, if you're set to buying brand new hardware, I suggest you visit PC Options. They still have the best price in Gilmore. PC H*b's promo price is still higher than PCO's.

Sayang, you just missed the 3570k sold at 7k. Si viper din abang mode, hahaha

I just saw that 11k 3770k. Walang box pala, afaik kailangan yung box for warranty.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 19, 2013, 09:53:58 PM
If ever I do buy I'll be going to PCO. I just quote PCHub because their prices are the easiest to find online.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 24, 2013, 09:21:51 PM
So I went to PC Options and ended up getting an FX-6300 still. The combination of the Piledriver+motherboard+PSU was still less than a 3570K with the cheapest motherboard available.

I figured since I don't have an i5 to compare with, I would be ignorant to the 25% performance deficit I'll be getting with AMD. Hopefully, ignorance will be bliss.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 24, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
@Louie

If you were able to add a good psu with that similar price, it's probably a good decision. How much were the itemized cost?

I haven't been to PCO since December when I bought my 3570k and mobo. How much does it cost now?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 24, 2013, 10:33:19 PM
9800 for the processor alone and I think the motherboards I was eyeing cost upwards of 4k

PCHUB prices are:

Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked (Quad Core)   9999
Asrock Z77 Pro 4 M   4800

IIRC I spent 12,550 for a the FX-6300, Gigabyte 970A-DS3 and Cougar 650W.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 24, 2013, 10:41:27 PM
^I see. So, 3570k did really increase in price as PCH updated in TPC. I bought mine at 9.5k last December.

12.5k for those three are not bad at all. It seems you made a good choice. I haven't seen the prices of Vishera, it seems they are priced very attractively.

Congrats on the (timely) upgrade! Woohoo, extra cores!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 25, 2013, 12:30:41 AM
The FX-6300 was at 5800 if I'm not mistaken. So it's almost half the price of the Ivy Bridge. I guess I just wasn't meant for team Intel this upgrade round.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 25, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
Cool. Cant fault any gamer for choosing gpu over cpu. Have you decided what to get on that side?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on June 26, 2013, 12:34:49 AM
^ Trinity? + Cross fire?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 26, 2013, 02:28:25 AM
^ he went FX, so definitely not Trinity.

GTX760 looks like awesome value. Basically the performance of the GTX670 for $250.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 26, 2013, 11:08:27 AM
Haven't decided yet on the video card, to be honest. But I'm not looking to spend more than 10k on it. That's the same amount I pegged for myself to get an X1950Pro before but ended up getting just a 7900GS hehe.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 26, 2013, 02:06:34 PM
@Louie

Might be better to wait for gtx760. Estimated price is around $240. That means Palit would be available for around 11k.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on June 26, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
Well the HD 6750 should still be enough for my 1440x900 native res on the ye olde AOC 19" so I'll just wait to upgrade it in a few months time.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: juke on June 30, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
GTX760 is already available locally.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 23, 2014, 01:24:18 PM
is this a good SSD?
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=29225255 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=29225255)

or are there better alternatives available locally? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: uvax on May 23, 2014, 01:46:08 PM
^^Read that the newer versions are slower than the older ones because Kingston  changed over to asynchronous NAND to cut costs.


http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston (http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 23, 2014, 04:56:56 PM
^^Read that the newer versions are slower than the older ones because Kingston  changed over to asynchronous NAND to cut costs.


http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston (http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston)
that sounds serious. hasn't kingston addressed that yet? does it impact performance that much? what are my alternatives in case it hasn't fixed the issue? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 23, 2014, 05:52:24 PM
how about this one?

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=29075343 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=29075343)

problem lang ay mukhang wala sa PCX.

on a side note, wag naman sana parang yung shock spin headset na binili ko ito na need ko pa bumili ng sound card para maximized performance.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on May 23, 2014, 05:55:44 PM
Apple did the exact same thing for their latest line of Macbook Air's.  Slower SSDs, but they are priced cheaper too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 23, 2014, 06:40:47 PM
but still substantially faster than regular HDs, right?

btw, i'll use the SSD for my OS, programs (just web browsing, simple video conversion and MS Office most of the time) and games (Dragon Nest and Civ 4 lol). i record videos in Dragon Nest and the destination folder cannot be changed so it will have to be on the SSD.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 24, 2014, 04:48:47 PM
i have read reviews of several SSDs at roughly the same price point. i am now even more confused lol. and also more suspicious ever since that kingston v300 problem.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on June 13, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
okay so i already upgraded to an SSD and happy with with it.

now i wanna replace my keyboard. any good mechanical gaming keyboard you guys can recommend? preferably not over 4K pesos. thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on June 13, 2014, 11:15:04 PM
Ducky Zero or CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid or CM Storm Quick Fire TK

MX Brown switch for 50/50 typing and gaming or MX Red switch for gaming, mainly

MX Blues for typing if no one will mind the noise.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on June 14, 2014, 09:37:27 AM
any KB with palmrest? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on June 23, 2014, 06:10:29 AM
i still can't decide what to buy. i want one with mechanical keys and palmrest, but all are priced high and, worse, appear to occupy much space which i can't afford since my mouse is just beside the keyboard.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on August 03, 2014, 12:20:59 PM
Why mech? Ive always wanted the logitech illuminated keyboard but still cant justify it to be a need hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on August 04, 2014, 07:57:19 AM
Why mech? Ive always wanted the logitech illuminated keyboard but still cant justify it to be a need hehe
i just wanna try mechanical keyboards. :lol:
oh i already bought one: Cooler Master Storm Trigger.
(http://i.imgur.com/qpvFAmy.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/qPKuDH2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/v3NPArK.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ug7LoIO.jpg)
i am quite happy with it. takes a while to adjust, but after some time, typing and gaming feels great. plus, it looks bad-ass.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: otacon on August 04, 2014, 02:19:57 PM
^^Another satisfied customer, just goes to say that once you go mech, you never go beck.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on August 04, 2014, 02:54:49 PM
^ actually, I think madami dito started with mechanicals then moved to membranes, and are just now coming back to Mechanicals. I actually still have a Model M stashed away, but super dirty now and needs a lot of TLC to restore.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on August 04, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
^ actually, I think madami dito started with mechanicals then moved to membranes, and are just now coming back to Mechanicals.
kasi mech yung kb ng 486 PCs? :lol:

^^Another satisfied customer, just goes to say that once you go mech, you never go beck.
yeah satisfied ako sa mechanical KB ko. ayaw ko na bumalik sa membranes!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on August 05, 2014, 11:05:57 AM
I still have the keyboard for my 8088 clone circa 1990
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 21, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
i'm about to get this tablet 2nd hand.  probably to replace my aging computer (see cpu-z link below).  my second use for this is for file transfer footage (video files) during video/film/tvc shoots.  this might replace my ipad2 as well. :)

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2460005,00.asp (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2460005,00.asp)
will be able to get it half the published srp (no keyboard dock, but with BT keyboard and mouse

since it's usb 3.0, i can use a usb3.0 hub and connect my card reader, external hdd and kb/m as well. :)

or should i wait and save for a real laptop? :)

old pc:
xeon x3210
8gb ram
gtx470


tablet pc
haswell i5 4300y (1.6ghz dc, ht)
4gb ram
intel 4200 hd graphics
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on November 21, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
You're comparing platforms. Are you sold on the tablet PC? If you just want a tablet there are cheap Androids all around. You can always just upgrade the Xeon rig or just get a different desktop. The Haswell is an i5 but it's got half the ram, probably a slower drive and onboard graphics. Plus you'll probably end up with Windows 8. It's not really something that I would prefer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on November 21, 2014, 12:01:47 PM
i'm about to get this tablet 2nd hand.  probably to replace my aging computer (see cpu-z link below).  my second use for this is for file transfer footage (video files) during video/film/tvc shoots.  this might replace my ipad2 as well. :)

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2460005,00.asp (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2460005,00.asp)
will be able to get it half the published srp (no keyboard dock, but with BT keyboard and mouse

since it's usb 3.0, i can use a usb3.0 hub and connect my card reader, external hdd and kb/m as well. :)

or should i wait and save for a real laptop? :)

old pc:
xeon x3210
8gb ram
gtx470


tablet pc
haswell i5 4300y (1.6ghz dc, ht)
4gb ram
intel 4200 hd graphics

If it were me, i'd wait/save up for a real laptop. you'll basically be carrying the same weight so might as well make the effort worth hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 21, 2014, 11:56:01 PM
thank you for the replies boss Louie and AthlonFan. :)

I've been monitoring my computer usage for months now, and basically I've been only using my computer for web browsing and itunes IF im not using my iPad2.  I did an video edit using premiere pro once or twice though.  Supposedly i'm going to get a mac mini, to keep my desk clean.  Anything from an old Xeon x3210 (Q6400 equivalent) would be an upgrade anyway. 

Then I bought a BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera for personal and rental use, now i have to get a laptop (for transferring files during shoots).  I'm supposed to get a normal laptop (saw an HP 14" core i3 1.9GHz, 2GB ram, intel videocard for 21k), and then this came along at 22k.  I haven't been doing video editing nor heavy photoshop (just adobe bridge and adobe camera raw, and a script to export to jpeg), so i don't really need a powerful processor nor the ram. 

and then i checked the item, brought my iPad2, compared the 2 and they weigh about the same, so im kinda sold.  A windows PC that can go really really small (tablet mode) but I can connect everything to it (ips monitor, stereo speakers, keyboard and mouse) when docked to my desk. 

i guess it was a good deal.  best of both worlds i guess. 
im not expecting it to have good scores (like beating the macbook air or full laptop with more ram, but i guess it's good enough for web browsing and file transferring. hopefully it can playback prores footage just fine.


thank you again, your replies made me think about it before buying it.  but the curious boy in me wanted a new gadget, so i went ahead with it anyway. If ever this doesn't work for my needs, I can always sell it again.  as for my old xeon rig, it will be on standby if ever i need adobe premiere. :)

p.s.  funny i have to choose whether i download through the 'app store' or through the browser download and install.  identity crisis for this little thing LOL

p.p.s. HDD is fast, m2 SSD from corsair.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on November 30, 2014, 12:28:42 AM
its me again!

so i have an aging Razer Salmosa (small optical mouse, 800/1800 dpi mouse) and a logitech illuminated keyboard.  they keyboard has loose keys already but very functional and thinking of using this an excuse for an upgrade.  i'm not into gaming anymore, primary use of my pc and tablet is for browsing and occasional video editing.

upon checking pc hub they have these 2 promos:

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=34574193

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=29125756

are these any good?
my mouse works perfectly fine, though a bigger mouse is a welcome. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on January 05, 2015, 01:52:17 AM
somewhat related to Dom's requirement, I have to change my keyboard to something silent. Budget is around 2-2.5k but the cheaper the better. My current keyboard is a logitech ultra flat keyboard and it disturbs my wife and daughter when I use the computer at night.

i don't mind extending the budget and will only be used mostly for browsing, little to nonexistent gaming hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on January 05, 2015, 02:20:44 AM
somewhat related to Dom's requirement, I have to change my keyboard to something silent. Budget is around 2-2.5k but the cheaper the better. My current keyboard is a logitech ultra flat keyboard and it disturbs my wife and daughter when I use the computer at night.

i don't mind extending the budget and will only be used mostly for browsing, little to nonexistent gaming hehe

im currently using a Logitech Illuminated Keyboard, and it's pretty quiet.  maybe close to how a laptop keyboard sounds like. (plus keys are illuminated, good for night use? haha). but some clips didn't last long.  i have 3 keys right now that are loose.  this is a 5 year old keyboard. :) not sure if it's still available and the cost.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on January 05, 2015, 09:45:21 AM
How about those soft lanparty keyboards that you can pour softdrinks over?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: uvax on January 05, 2015, 05:40:05 PM
Checkout the Rapoo E9070. It has scissors type keys similar to laptops so should be quiet. It's ultra slim form factor so it might feel cramped for touch typing but should be okay for browsing. It should fall within the budget.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 04, 2015, 12:01:59 AM
what's a good power supply these days? i think my hec raptor 500w is due for replacement already.  thinking of having around 600-700w of power to support a future upgrade (6-core and a 4gb nvidia card) for da vinci resolve. :)  most likely 1 gtx 970 4 or 8gb
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: ris on February 04, 2015, 09:13:58 AM
what's a good power supply these days? i think my hec raptor 500w is due for replacement already.  thinking of having around 600-700w of power to support a future upgrade (6-core and a 4gb nvidia card) for da vinci resolve. :)  most likely 1 gtx 970 4 or 8gb

are seasonics good?  that is the recommended brand by the shop owner i asked.  or maybe fsp?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 04, 2015, 11:55:40 AM
Seasonic is one of the top PSU manufacturers AFAIK.

I had a Seasonic X660 fail most likely due to my problematic APC UPS which also killed a Corsair HX620 PSU prior. The local Seasonic distro (Helix) replaced it on the spot with no questions asked.

The Corsair was more of a hassle since the local retailer and distributor denied my RMA request even if the unit was still under warranty. I had to send an email request to Corsair directly and ship the faulty unit to their branch in HK at my cost. They shipped me back a replacement HX650 3 working days later which I sold to buy the Seasonic X660.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: calvin on February 05, 2015, 03:41:00 PM
I think FSP also makes the Seasonic brand
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on February 05, 2015, 06:24:36 PM
i've been using FSP ever since it's been recommended to me here in PPC. i was a bit skeptical at first but i had a PC that i sold to a neighbor i built in Athlon II x2 days and it's still working.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on February 05, 2015, 09:29:29 PM
I think FSP also makes the Seasonic brand

Nope. FSP and Seasonic are both OEM companies who manufacture PSUs for other brands.

Seasonic makes PSUs for Corsair, Antec, Arctic Cooling, Be Quiet!, NZXT, PC Power & Cooling, XFX to name a few.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 06, 2015, 09:05:49 AM
saw this,
target is 750w http://www.seasonicusa.com/G-series-450-550-650.htm (http://www.seasonicusa.com/G-series-450-550-650.htm)

i think it costs around 5-6k. :)
this psu will be the start of upgrade for my aging rig. HAHA


next step will be video card and SSD. super tempting yung GTX 960/970 unless may mahanap na good deal na GTX780 or 680Ti.


then pinaka mabigat, RAM, Proccie, MoBo. upgrade itch!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 17, 2015, 08:28:19 PM
meron bang 19" LCD monitor na IPS at nasa 5K pesos and below? salamat!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: athlonFan on April 09, 2015, 03:05:27 AM
Yung LG alam ko around 8k for a 23incher.

Can anyone suggest a good IPS monitor? My requirements are:

LED Backlit
~24-27 inches
Multiple inputs  at least 3, (hdmi, dvi mixed)
IPS panel
should also have a way to quickly switch a monitor profile (I always browse during the wee hours of the morning and with the current monitor i'm using, I have to manually adjust the brightness and contrast, I need something which I can pre configure at least 2 settings (night and day)

Just a background, I'm using a dell ultrasharp u2311h for almost 5 years already. The 1080p resolution is getting too cramped lol.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 09, 2015, 04:31:33 AM
Might want to wait a bit. LG Asus and Acer have all recently introduced 144Hz IPS monitors with Freesync or GSync.

For the monitor adjustment thing try Display Tuner (http://www.nicomsoft.com/products/display-tuner/). Free for non-commercial use, it can directly control any DCC compliant monitor and you can set hotkeys to quickly switch between profiles. You can have as many profiles as you like.

(http://i.imgur.com/QwSlK9X.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/MTgquhX.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 09, 2015, 09:15:05 AM
Try f.lux to adjust your monitor for late night browsing to reduce eyestrain.


Dell also just announced a 24" WQHD (2560x1440) IPS monitor, it should be available in a couple of months. No Freesync/G-sync support though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on April 09, 2015, 05:08:15 PM
^
+1 for f.lux
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 10, 2015, 12:14:23 PM
I'm trying to spec out a SFF desktop for 1080p60 gaming, don't want to upgrade core components like CPU/GPU/RAM for at least 3-4 years. My current laptop (i5-540m) still soldiering on after 4.5 years thanks to 8GB RAM and SSD upgrade but it runs quite hot and can't run games anymore.  I'm not interested in gaming at resolutions higher than 1080p, but may want to try Freesync/G-sync once it gets sufficiently cheap.   

Will reuse my current monitor/mouse/KB/speakers & a 7200rpm 1TB HDD. Comments?

PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WxP2nQ) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WxP2nQ/by_merchant/)

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54460)  ($191.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H97M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h97me)  ($96.23 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls2kit4g3d1609ds1s00)  ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct250bx100ssd1)  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92904gbd5ppdhe)  ($283.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone SG09B (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/silverstone-case-sg09b)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm)  ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615)  ($102.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $910.13
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-10 00:04 EDT-0400
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on April 10, 2015, 07:58:05 PM
The GTX 970 will be a better buy than the R9 290 video card. Upon checking the prices in newegg, its about $40 more but since you are building a SFF system, the 970 runs cooler and faster than the 290. Don't worry about the 3.5GB memory issue because it won't be an issue at all especially at the 1080p resolution.

I also suggest getting a 970 with a blower style fan so that the heat is dumped out of the case.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 10, 2015, 09:30:36 PM
I was also considering the GTX970 though it is considerably more expensive than the R9 290 here in Singapore; on the resale market it's possible to get the R9 290 at around SGD300-350. Nobody really parts with their GTX970's on the secondary market while they cost around SGD500 up at retail.


EDIT: After further research, I am also including the GTX 770 and R9 280x for consideration as they can be bought in the same price range as the R9 290 on the resale market. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on April 12, 2015, 01:13:40 AM
The R9 290 is not a bad card at all especially when you consider performance except for the added heat and power consumption. I have personally owned one and built an ITX system with it using the Silverstone RVZ01 itx case with two fans blowing at the video card's side. The reason I upgraded to the GTX 970 was because it was faster and its actually more cheaper here in the Philippines than brand new 290's

Your preferred case the SG09 also has enough ventilation so I think you will be better off with the R9 290 rather than the "old tech" cards you are considering especially since you have mentioned that you won't be upgrading for a couple of years.



Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 12, 2015, 10:48:46 AM
Thanks for your input, did you use a reference 290 or not? Based on initial reviews the reference 290 runs quite hot and loud.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on April 12, 2015, 02:32:47 PM
I used a non-reference one, the MSI R9 290 Gaming. Non-reference would be better for the AMD cards.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 12, 2015, 11:17:11 PM
How are AMD drivers these days compared to Nvidia's?

I've been having occasional Nvidia driver crashes with the latest WHQL drivers after several problem-free years.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: [JZ] Nightmare on April 12, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
well amd drivers looks quite stable nowadays but thats just me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 13, 2015, 10:30:05 AM
^ cool. I'm waiting for the next gen Radeons to come out before I decide whether to go for AMD or Nvidia for my next VC upgrade.

On another note, I just installed the 350.05 hotfix driver for my current Nvidia card and the crashing problems are gone. Good thing it didn't take too long for NV's driver team to address the driver crashing issues. Seems like it was widespread enough to warrant an immediate resolution via hotfix release. Something NV rarely does nowadays.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Heishiro on April 13, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
How are AMD drivers these days compared to Nvidia's?
im more worried about the Amd's power consumption :lol:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dellwen on May 03, 2015, 09:50:42 AM

Present RIG/ Upgrade


Processor + Mobo: I7 920 LGA 1366+ Asus Rampage II / I7 4790K LGA 1150 + Asus Maximus VII Gene 
Memory:  GSkill 2 GB 1600MHz x 3 (6GB Total)  / GSkill 8GB 1833MHz x 2 (16GB Total)or similar (Suggestion needed)

Video Card: Asus Strix GTX 970 / Retain
Hard Drive:  WD 500 GB (Very OLD) / An SSD (Suggestion needed)
Optical Drive: LG DVD writer / Retain
Case:  Thermaltake ATX (forgot the model) / Retain
Monitor: 21" Samsung SyncMaster B2230 / 27" ROG Swift PG278Q
Mouse: A4Tech BW5 (Very OLD) / Razer Mouse
Speakers Altech Lansing 5.1 (Very OLD) / Retain
PSU: Corsair RM 750 / Retain

Suggestions are much appreciated.  I am not an expert at these computer jargon.  I only learn from the forum and research. 


Regards Dellwen
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 17, 2015, 03:58:21 PM
Good day PPC!

Just got this recently - i7 4930k with h80i cooler and ASUS X79 Deluxe

Upgrade for my Xeon x3210, Intel p45 motherboard, Thermalright IFX-14

I need suggestions for:
PSU upgrade (current one is 500w hec, but old already, so due for upgrade na rin)
Thermal compound for processor
SSD drive, looking at Sandisk Ultra for boot and programs right now. Any other suggestions? :)
Hdd: ano ba ok na 1TB drives ngayon? Planning to do 4 drive raid array. Two raid 0. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on December 17, 2015, 07:37:53 PM
Noctua thermal compound is supposed to be as good as and cheaper than arctic silver 5.

You can't go wrong with Seasonic, Superflower, or FSP for power supplies.

For a boot/apps drive the 850 Evo is quite quick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 18, 2015, 09:24:03 AM
Noctua thermal compound is supposed to be as good as and cheaper than arctic silver 5.

You can't go wrong with Seasonic, Superflower, or FSP for power supplies.

For a boot/apps drive the 850 Evo is quite quick.

Thanks Barurutor!
Will take a quick visit at pchub later. Hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 18, 2015, 05:20:17 PM
Noctua thermal compound is supposed to be as good as and cheaper than arctic silver 5.

You can't go wrong with Seasonic, Superflower, or FSP for power supplies.

For a boot/apps drive the 850 Evo is quite quick.

Thanks Barurutor!
Will take a quick visit at pchub later. Hehe

natakot ako sa traffic, went to SM Marikina instead.  got FSP Raider 700w (80+ silver) and Samsong 850 Evo.  sadly walang thermal compound sa kahit anong shop. :( hanapin ko yung galing sa 612 ng brother ko baka may natira pa. hehehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on December 18, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
Last time I was in SM Marikina PC Express had expensive thermal paste. Nobody else had it in stock.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on December 19, 2015, 02:34:59 PM
Hahaha, looks like i've been out of the hardware scene for so long. I think i managed to brick my motherboard.  At fist USB overcurrent detected, and won't continue to POST or BIOS.  Then i decided to install a different bios version.  Now it doesn't do anything. -_-  so much for a 6-core processor. Might get a cheap x79 for the mean time next week to get things running.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dean on January 01, 2016, 09:37:38 PM
Quote
1GB drives are awesome too, but too much of an egg basket to break.

di ba maliit yan? =]

by today's standards, yes.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on January 19, 2016, 01:47:05 AM
Hi. I have sold most of my desktop parts and now I'm only using a laptop. I need suggestions for 2.0 speakers since I have a very small table (enough to fit the laptop and some monitors). USB powered or not is ok as long as it does not take too much space but would still sound way better than the built-in laptop speakers.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: uvax on January 19, 2016, 07:00:59 AM
You might consider one of those portable bluetooth speakers that has line in connection. It might be a bit more expensive but you get dual use out of it and they are compact. The JBL Flip 3 and the Charge 2+ sound nice but there are other cheaper options out there.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jorussic on January 19, 2016, 10:57:12 AM
Hi. I have sold most of my desktop parts and now I'm only using a laptop. I need suggestions for 2.0 speakers since I have a very small table (enough to fit the laptop and some monitors). USB powered or not is ok as long as it does not take too much space but would still sound way better than the built-in laptop speakers.
CDR-king?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: superiorx120 on February 01, 2016, 04:18:06 PM
I need your suggestions on this one.  Should I get another gtx 970 and sli them or should I just get the 980 ti? Also, if anyone here runs sli 970's please share some of your experience running sli on those cards.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on February 01, 2016, 06:28:10 PM
-running a single card has less headaches getting games to work compared with sli
-plus the 970 has the 3.5gb vram bottleneck compared to 6gb on the 980ti
-not to mention increased power consumption for sli

are you running 1440p or ultrawide/dual/triple monitor?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: superiorx120 on February 03, 2016, 07:29:23 AM
-running a single card has less headaches getting games to work compared with sli
-plus the 970 has the 3.5gb vram bottleneck compared to 6gb on the 980ti
-not to mention increased power consumption for sli

are you running 1440p or ultrawide/dual/triple monitor?


I'm on 1080 p right now but planning to get a 1440 monitor.  So it is better to get the 980 ti then :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: vincent on February 14, 2016, 05:18:30 AM
-running a single card has less headaches getting games to work compared with sli
-plus the 970 has the 3.5gb vram bottleneck compared to 6gb on the 980ti
-not to mention increased power consumption for sli

are you running 1440p or ultrawide/dual/triple monitor?


I'm on 1080 p right now but planning to get a 1440 monitor.  So it is better to get the 980 ti then :)

970 sli should more or less be faster than a 980ti , you have a lot of overclocking headroom for dual 970s, at 1440p, both setups will be a piece of cake for those cards, albeit the 970s will be limited by the vram, but at 1440p, the 980ti will be better for some games due to the vram. 2 970s will cost about the same as a single 980ti, if I was in your position, I would just get the 980ti,

even if the sli 970 will be faster in some games, you will not notice that fps difference on a single 1440p monitor, depending on what game you are playing, maybe you can get away with a single overclocked 970, and save that money for the next generation of cards that is coming this year
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: MtnDew on February 19, 2016, 05:36:00 AM
MY GTX 680 is showing signs of imminent failure, although it's still working fine for now. I think it's time to retire it. Should I get a GTX 980 Ti now, or should I wait for the release of the newer Pascal cards? I've heard some nice things about the new design, but the supposed performance boost might only just be marketing talk.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on February 23, 2016, 05:41:50 PM
@uvax and jorussic,

Thank you both for your tips. I have revived my desktop and I would probably just settle for much more powerful options.

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on February 23, 2016, 05:52:18 PM
@MtnDew

If you will wait for Pascal then you won't be able to use any gaming video card until Pascal comes since your 680 is failing. I suggest that you get the 980 ti and experience the great performance boost now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: MtnDew on February 25, 2016, 07:53:42 AM
@fragster, sa ngayon puro emulation ang pinagkakaabalahan ko. Pero yung mga GPU intensive games, ilang beses nang nag-blue screen yung PC ko, tinutukoy ng error yung graphics daw. Minsan biglang nagha-hang yung PC ko, tapos after mag-recover ang sabi "Display Driver Stopped Responding and Has Recovered". Pero ang malala, kapag naglalaro na ako ng mga recently released games, sobrang baba na ng frame rate, hindi tulad nung dati. Puwede pang pagtiyagaan, huwag lang ako maglalaro ng magandang game. :'(
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dom_08 on February 25, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
@fragster, sa ngayon puro emulation ang pinagkakaabalahan ko. Pero yung mga GPU intensive games, ilang beses nang nag-blue screen yung PC ko, tinutukoy ng error yung graphics daw. Minsan biglang nagha-hang yung PC ko, tapos after mag-recover ang sabi "Display Driver Stopped Responding and Has Recovered". Pero ang malala, kapag naglalaro na ako ng mga recently released games, sobrang baba na ng frame rate, hindi tulad nung dati. Puwede pang pagtiyagaan, huwag lang ako maglalaro ng magandang game. :'(

you can get a GTX 950 for pansmantagal. ;)
there are GTX780/Ti popping up from time to time. 
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on February 25, 2016, 08:35:58 PM
@MtnDew

What new games are you playing and at what resolution?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: MtnDew on March 16, 2016, 07:05:54 AM
@dom_08, actually I was planning on buying a GTX 960 (for the mean time) since it's around the benchmark rating of GTX 680. I could resell it near brand new price, for a price hit of a pizza order or two.

@fragster, right now I'm playing retro console games (SNES, PSX), I can still play GPU intensive games, but there's a significant decrease in fps from when I used to play the games a year ago. In Starcraft 2, it would pause every 3 seconds lol.

Mukhang sa end of May na pala ang labas ng GTX 1080, akala ko around Q4 pa ang labas. Sa palagay ko hindi ganoon kalayo ang agwat ng GTX 1080 sa GTX 980Ti pagdating sa performance, pero hihintayin ko na lang ang benchmark results. Ang totoo noon mukhang overkill na ang GTX 980Ti ehehe. Pero ang habol ko lang, pang future proof sa mga games na lalabas within 3 years, atsaka isa pa, interesado rin akong subukan ang VR at mag-develop ng VR apps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fragster on March 29, 2016, 12:27:56 AM
Kung sabagay pag mas mura yung upcoming Pascal equivalent ng 980 Ti eh sulit yung paghihintay.

Console Emulators! Sa dami ng games na pwede mong laruin eh parang di ka maiinip sa paghihintay mo sa new gpu.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on September 22, 2016, 10:30:59 AM
Need opinion from amd gpu owners: is it worth the extra cost to purchase a monitor with freesync?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on September 22, 2016, 12:19:37 PM
IMHO yes, even if you don't do 144hz gaming the smoothness improvement at lower frame rates (40-75fps) is noticeable. Even Samsung's mid/low-end PLS 1080p monitors have freesync already and priced below $300USD.


I'm using a R9 290 on Samsung S24E370 (1080p PLS with modified freesync range to 35-75hz), panning scenes in ROTTR opening benefit nicely from freesync, and in-game camera feels smoother. Side bonus is Windows desktop at 75hz.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 27, 2016, 08:46:53 AM
need suggestions for a 19"-20" monitor. 

i saw this at glorietta. is this good enough? or is this an old model that the store's trying to get rid of?
http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/200V4QSBR_75/lcd-monitor-with-led-backlight (http://www.philips.com.au/c-p/200V4QSBR_75/lcd-monitor-with-led-backlight)

thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on September 29, 2016, 10:03:40 PM
Why are you limited to 19-20"? 16:9 at those sizes are criminally short.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 30, 2016, 05:19:24 AM
Why are you limited to 19-20"? 16:9 at those sizes are criminally short.
in my mind, if i go bigger, the resolution will get higher, and i may have to upgrade other parts (CPU, memory and graphics card) to decently play games (Civ V, possibly Civ VI when it is released and Xcom 2 if it goes on sale on Steam soon). i have the budget to upgrade those, but i am holding out for as long as possible until nVidia GTX 1050 is released to buy them all at once.


currently i am using a PC with Intel G630 @ 2.7 GHz, 4 GB RAM and GTX 650.


eyeing to upgrade to Core i3 6100, a new motherboard, 8 GB RAM and Gefore 1050 Ti.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on September 30, 2016, 06:48:05 AM
Base resolution for most mainstream LCD monitors is now 1080p, it's no longer directly linked to size (you can get 29" 1080p monitors even, but that's about the largest you can get without pixels becoming obvious).  That one you linked is 1080p already anyway, at 19/20" your desktop interface (icons, 8point text, etc). is going to be tiny.

There are a bunch of decent 1080p monitors with adaptive sync at 22-24" size, and you can already get a RX460 with freesync to smoothen framerate (less noticeable lags/skips/jumps in sub-60fps scenes) for probably the same price as the 1050ti. There's a list of freesync-enabled monitors here:

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/freesync

Also, given that monitors aren't upgraded as frequently as other PC components, it makes some sense to invest in a good quality one instead of skimping.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on September 30, 2016, 06:54:12 AM
that was highly informative. thanks! any specific recommendation on a 22" monitor? i'm also taking into consideration my PC table's size, though i can probably move the printer beside the monitor elsewhere if 24" is the better choice.


--edit--


is this good?
http://www.viewsonic.com.au/products/lcd/VA2219-sh.php (http://www.viewsonic.com.au/products/lcd/VA2219-sh.php)


22" IPS LCD Monitor.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on October 03, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
List of freesync monitors:

http://www.144hzmonitors.com/list-of-freesync-monitors/ (http://www.144hzmonitors.com/list-of-freesync-monitors/)

bit the bullet and got me a Viewsonic XG2401 144hz Freesync paired with a RX 470.  I was actually supposed to get the lower model (VX2457) since I think 144hz is overkill for a 470 but unfortunately, no stocks were available.

I don't know how to properly calibrate so I followed the suggestions here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/viewsonic-xg2401-24-inch-freesync-monitor,4504-3.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/viewsonic-xg2401-24-inch-freesync-monitor,4504-3.html)

so far so good!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wickwire on November 30, 2016, 04:56:08 PM
Are 960m gtx equipped laptops still a good buy for light gaming ie RTS titles like generals,coh and starcraft 2? My Hp is about to give out and I think now is the best time to get one.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on November 30, 2016, 05:43:12 PM
Only the 4Gb ones... or 965M, I guess.  But 10 series should be the target nowadays, 1060s perhaps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wickwire on December 01, 2016, 05:10:05 AM
Between a Razer blade and Alienware R3 1060m, which would make more sense? Honestly I haven't looked into pc's or laptops in ages. Since technology keeps evolving so fast. I just need something that has good or great build quality like my brother's mac with no concern that can do gaming as a bonus. My hp's screen bezel cracked open at the sides.. dunno why or how, so I guess that's the limitation on plastic hinges or whatever. If we were in good ole Pinas, I'm confident marerepair pa to, but here.. replacement is the way to go for sure.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Louie on December 01, 2016, 11:04:49 AM
Are you in the US? You can just hit the nearest Costco and look at the machines close up, right?

I had an M11x Alienware and the build quality was really good. Haven't seen a Razer laptop up close, though.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: fibonacci018 on January 28, 2017, 12:59:45 AM
What up kababayans!

I'm planning to upgrade my PC storage, any suggestions for 1 HDD at 1SSD?

Tsaka noob question na rin. Nagdedepende ba sa motherboard yung slots ng HDD at SSD?
Salamat!  :happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on February 21, 2017, 04:47:24 PM
^as long as you have free SATA ports in your mobo then you should be good to go.

Need suggestions on Mechanical keyboards:

I'm thinking of replacing my existing Asus Strix Tactic pro with a TKL mech keyboard. I've narrowed down my choices to either the Cooler Master Master Keys Pro S or a Ducky One TKL. Any suggestions on which one to get?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on February 21, 2017, 05:12:36 PM
Both boards appear to be similar hardware-wise (USB nkro, arm m3 processor, standard 87 TKL key sizes/layouts), but Coolermaster has a software package for programming the leds/macros/etc. The Ducky One doesn't have software so you'll have to note down somewhere what macros you've configured.

Coolermaster usb port is at top right of kb, Ducky usb is at the middle & has cable routing to left/right/center.

Also the Ducky distro (JT Photoworld) seems to have poor after-sales support for the keyboards, based on some mkbph FB group posts.

MX Blues are noisy as hell, not good for night gaming. MX Browns can be quiet if you don't bottom out the keys but may not be able to actuate them as quickly as MX reds.

The Ducky can probably be found with less common MX switches (clear/green/pink), Coolermaster only has MX red/blue/brown switches.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on February 21, 2017, 06:07:09 PM
^thanks! I'm actually thinking of going with mx reds. currently using mx blacks and I want to try out lower actuation switches. The Strix keyboard is massive as well and I don't really use the macro keys and num pad is seldom used which is why I'm going for a TKL.

how about corsair K65? they're a bit more expensive (~Php500-600) but if the quality is better, I can consider them as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on February 21, 2017, 07:37:10 PM
The corsair k65 takes up more space and doesn't have standard bottow row key sizes. Keycaps are cheap/thin ABS (gets shiny/smooth as it wears), and the font for the k65 lux/rapidfire versions is very "gamer/1337" looking. It's supposed to be lighter than 87-key coolermaster keyboards too, which can affect the sound when bottoming keys out.

BUT

They have media controls & usb passthrough (k65 rgb/lux/rapidfire), plus the CUE software integrates nicely with certain games (i.e. launch a game->key lighting scheme changes to highlight the game hotkeys). They also come with detachable wrist rests.

In the end it boils down to your personal preference. I like being able to change caps easily (don't have to look/spend extra for corsair-sized bottom row keys) & don't have a lot of desk space, so I'd pick either the masterkeys pro S or ducky 1 tkl, then save up for PBT keycaps.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on February 25, 2017, 12:51:31 PM
update: got a good deal on a second hand Logitech G310 and G502 mouse. the romer g switches in the G310 feels like a hybrid mechanical-membrane. still adjusting with it right now with the short actuation point which is very different from cherry blacks, but overall, I'm liking it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on February 27, 2017, 12:28:25 AM
Sounds good. Wish I could afford a G502 but quite happy with SG$20-30 G400s bought second hand :))
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 24, 2017, 08:17:21 PM
is this a good combination: Core i3 7100 and GeForce GTX 1050 Ti? for casual 1080p gaming purposes, like Witcher III, X-Com 2 and upcoming Shadow of War.

thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on March 25, 2017, 01:01:04 AM
don't get the i3 7100

get the 7th gen Pentium G4620 instead. It's cheaper and performs just as well for games.


TR's updated guide is worth checking out:
http://techreport.com/review/31624/the-tech-report-system-guide-march-2017-edition (http://techreport.com/review/31624/the-tech-report-system-guide-march-2017-edition)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 25, 2017, 06:42:26 AM
that seems good. thanks!

there seems to be one problem though: i took a look at the pricelist of PCX and Dynaquest and neither has G4620, only the tad slower G4560. very strange.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on March 25, 2017, 10:27:37 AM
The G4560 is pretty close in gaming performance to the G4620 for much less, you can go with that.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 25, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
The G4560 is pretty close in gaming performance to the G4620 for much less, you can go with that.
got it. is there a video card that's better than GeForce 1050 Ti in terms of performance but also doesn't draw much power or produce much heat?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on March 25, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
^ 1060
(http://i.imgur.com/OmgiUUW.png)

But if performance per watt is your metric then 1050Ti is the king.
(http://i.imgur.com/VLeVfAg.png)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on March 25, 2017, 08:09:00 PM
i guess i'm leaning towards Geforce 1050Ti. really can't risk overheating my PC because it's summer already. thanks!

will Intel G4560 plus Geforce 1050 TI theoretically be able to run upcoming game Shadow of War, maybe high graphics settings on 1080p?

MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7 SP1 with Platform Update for Windows 7
Processor: Intel i5-2550K, 3.4 GHz
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce GTX 670 | Radeon HD 7950
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 60 GB available space

RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 10 version 14393.102 or higher required
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770, 3.4 GHz
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce GTX 970 or GeForce GTX 1060 6GB | Radeon R9 290X or Radeon RX 480
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 60 GB available space
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on March 25, 2017, 10:34:06 PM
so is it still okay to buy laptops in gilmore or sa mga mall na lang (like SM cyberzone)? are there still significant price differences?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on March 27, 2017, 09:41:06 AM
are there gaming cards that don't use the Extra 6/8 power connector?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on March 27, 2017, 12:29:56 PM
are there gaming cards that don't use the Extra 6/8 power connector?

AFAIK, for the current gen, it's the 1050 that has AIB models without the 6-pin PCIE power connector.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on March 27, 2017, 01:53:30 PM
Radeon RX460 also has models which don't require power connectors, good for HTPC purpose like the 1050/1050Ti.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on March 27, 2017, 10:21:26 PM
good to know, thanks
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on April 03, 2017, 07:26:09 PM
ok, so as i was preparing to replace my PC's interior soon, i came across a problem:

newer video cards like GTX 1060 occupies a rather large space. i can't use a motherboard with similar size as the one i have now, right? because i need more room to plug in my sound card.
(http://i.imgur.com/8hcLlwql.jpg)

any suggestions on a motherboard that can accommodate a Pentium 4560 (LGA 1151 Kabylake), a GTX 1060, a sound card, and doesn't cost much? thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 03, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
Onboard sound has been "good enough" for several years now. I doubt you'll need your soundcard when you upgrade to kaby lake.
And your GTX1060 will take up 2 slots at most, you can still use the bottom-most (4th for microatx boards) slot for an expansion card.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on April 03, 2017, 08:20:51 PM
Onboard sound has been "good enough" for several years now. I doubt you'll need your soundcard when you upgrade to kaby lake.
And your GTX1060 will take up 2 slots at most, you can still use the bottom-most (4th for microatx boards) slot for an expansion card.
ah but the problem is that the onboard sound can't seem to provide enough juice for my gaming headset, making it sound as if it were coming from a hollow drum.

this is the cheapest i found at PCX's pricelist. is this good enough? thanks!
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250M-BAZOOKA.html#productFeature-section (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250M-BAZOOKA.html#productFeature-section)

on a side note, is assembling a PC nowadays really easy? because i see videos of supposed newbies doing it. even Terry Crews did it. i am still kinda hesitant even though i have built PCs in the past. the thought of connecting a cable improperly or not seating the cpu fan properly scares me.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on April 03, 2017, 08:54:30 PM
Onboard sound has been "good enough" for several years now. I doubt you'll need your soundcard when you upgrade to kaby lake.
And your GTX1060 will take up 2 slots at most, you can still use the bottom-most (4th for microatx boards) slot for an expansion card.
ah but the problem is that the onboard sound can't seem to provide enough juice for my gaming headset, making it sound as if it were coming from a hollow drum.

this is the cheapest i found at PCX's pricelist. is this good enough? thanks!
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250M-BAZOOKA.html#productFeature-section (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250M-BAZOOKA.html#productFeature-section)

on a side note, is assembling a PC nowadays really easy? because i see videos of supposed newbies doing it. even Terry Crews did it. i am still kinda hesitant even though i have built PCs in the past. the thought of connecting a cable improperly or not seating the cpu fan properly scares me.
Last soundcard I used was like 15 years ago! What's that card is that and what headphone are you pairing it with? Maybe a portable amp is a better option if more juice is needed.

Its almost next to impossible to make a mistake in PC assembly. There are tabs and locks to make sure a card or cable only goes one way. Heck its even easier than cooking.

Sent from my P01MA using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on April 03, 2017, 09:16:30 PM
Onboard sound has been "good enough" for several years now. I doubt you'll need your soundcard when you upgrade to kaby lake.
And your GTX1060 will take up 2 slots at most, you can still use the bottom-most (4th for microatx boards) slot for an expansion card.
ah but the problem is that the onboard sound can't seem to provide enough juice for my gaming headset, making it sound as if it were coming from a hollow drum.

this is the cheapest i found at PCX's pricelist. is this good enough? thanks!
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250M-BAZOOKA.html#productFeature-section (https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B250M-BAZOOKA.html#productFeature-section)

on a side note, is assembling a PC nowadays really easy? because i see videos of supposed newbies doing it. even Terry Crews did it. i am still kinda hesitant even though i have built PCs in the past. the thought of connecting a cable improperly or not seating the cpu fan properly scares me.
Last soundcard I used was like 15 years ago! What's that card is that and what headphone are you pairing it with? Maybe a portable amp is a better option if more juice is needed.

Its almost next to impossible to make a mistake in PC assembly. There are tabs and locks to make sure a card or cable only goes one way. Heck its even easier than cooking.

Sent from my P01MA using Tapatalk
it's an Asus Xonar DXG paired with Thermaltake Shockspin. when i first got my gaming headset and noticed the problem, i immediately posted it here for help. the most common answer was i needed a soundcard, and so i bought one and the problem was fixed.

yeah from what i've read, soundcards are not needed these days. but i bought one so i have to take that into consideration now that i'm upgrading to play more recent games.

are you sure it's easier than cooking? :lol:

because i can cook with confidence but i can't seem to muster the guts to assemble a PC again, which is why i am considering  bringing my desktop to PCX to have the PC assembled there. but then, if i could do it at home and save maybe 1-2K Pesos by buying elsewhere, why not?

my concerns are:
1. putting the CPU into the socket (possibility of bending pins) and putting on the heatsink/fan (might not be in optimal contact with the processor)
2. attaching the wires from the power/reset.etc. i recall the last time i did it, i had to go by trial and error. thankfully, nothing broken.
3. forgetting to attach an important cable somewhere.
3. other cables/slots that i may not be familiar with because the upgrade's gonna be almost a whole new system.


the last time i assembled a PC was Athlon 900 Mhz days :lol: attaching the copper heatsink to the processor was a particular challenge because the core was exposed, the heatsink was heavy and the damn clip needed a flat screwriver that could slip (and it did slip and i hit the mobo several times).
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 04, 2017, 12:47:54 AM
Get a card with a blower cooler.

(http://i.imgur.com/U2iQRbO.png)

They're strictly two-slots wide which should fit, and air is intaked/exhausted from outside of the case so clearance to your sound card won't be an issue.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 04, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
Quote
my concerns are:
1. putting the CPU into the socket (possibility of bending pins) and putting on the heatsink/fan (might not be in optimal contact with the processor)
2. attaching the wires from the power/reset.etc. i recall the last time i did it, i had to go by trial and error. thankfully, nothing broken.
3. forgetting to attach an important cable somewhere.
3. other cables/slots that i may not be familiar with because the upgrade's gonna be almost a whole new system.

There are so many youtube tutorials for these steps now.  The Techquickie channel provides quick how-to videos for all your concerns.

How to install intel LGA1150/1151 processors & heatsink - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjEXrlmUIQ you don't need a screwdriver anymore to pull mounting clips and stuff.

How to connect case front panel connectors to the motherboard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6q4h-lNHrU

Motherboard connectors explained quickly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csqnK_CwKrQ

Honestly, you just need to connect the ATX 24-pin power, 4-pin power, CPU fan, case fan/s, and front panel connectors.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on April 04, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
Get a card with a blower cooler.

(http://i.imgur.com/U2iQRbO.png)

They're strictly two-slots wide which should fit, and air is intaked/exhausted from outside of the case so clearance to your sound card won't be an issue.
this is the card i am planning to buy:
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-amp-edition (https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-amp-edition)
(https://images10.newegg.com/ProductImage/14-500-403-15.jpg)
is this good or will this cause any problems? thanks!


There are so many youtube tutorials for these steps now.  The Techquickie channel provides quick how-to videos for all your concerns.

How to install intel LGA1150/1151 processors & heatsink - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjEXrlmUIQ you don't need a screwdriver anymore to pull mounting clips and stuff.

How to connect case front panel connectors to the motherboard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6q4h-lNHrU

Motherboard connectors explained quickly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csqnK_CwKrQ

Honestly, you just need to connect the ATX 24-pin power, 4-pin power, CPU fan, case fan/s, and front panel connectors.
got it. thanks! will review those videos again and again before i dismantle my PC.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 05, 2017, 12:18:28 AM
^ so long as the fan height doesn't extend beyond 2 slots it should fit. Will be a little choked for air, but the 1060 doesn't really run that hot anyway so it should be good.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on April 05, 2017, 10:33:32 AM
ok, thanks! excited to play Witcher 3 and Shadows of Mordor.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on April 05, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
just got a Gigabyte GTX1050 2G - no power connectors
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on April 10, 2017, 06:20:15 PM
I'm currently planning on switching from ITX to mATX and actually already got a mobo for it. Need suggestions on a good mATX case. I'm currently considering either the Fractal Node 804 or the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv but leaning more on Fractal because of the price difference (5.3k vs 6.5k). Any other suggestions?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 10, 2017, 07:43:04 PM
The Tecware Carbon looks promising, and affordable too.
https://www.tecware.asia/carbon (https://www.tecware.asia/carbon)

Jonsbo aluminum uATX cases don't seem to have the best ventilation, my teammate has one and his itx-sized GTX970 heats it up bad, considering aircon ambient temps. They also have lower limits on sizes for GPU length/CPU HSF height/# of storage devices as well. Good WAF though.


I would've gone with a Node 804 myself if it wasn't for the right-side mounted USB/audio plus the extreme width. Ended up with a Silverstone SG09 instead.  The design has some silly constraints like the 3-pin PSU socket requiring specific orientation (which not even all of Silverstone's PSUs support), plus a lack of water-cooling support/cable management options. However, it fit my space constraints (limited table depth and width), supported multiple fans (currently running 3 intake/3 exhaust), had front-mounted USB3/audio ports, and was cheaper than the Node 804.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: suavegabe on April 10, 2017, 09:32:17 PM
^thanks! I'm actually using a Jonsbo VR1 right now and the main concern is the GPU temp. the case looks good with the brushed aluminium, tempered glass and all but I'm constantly hitting 89 C on the GPU at full load. 89 C is still safe for a RX 480 but with the side panel removed, temps go down by at least 10 C. one of the reasons why I'm eyeing the node 804 is that I can probably put fans right below the GPU and direct more air there.

I did some measurements on my desk and the 804 looks like it would fit. you're right though about the right-side mounted USB and audio; though the Enthoo Evolv also has those on the right side as well.

I've read about the tecware carbon and it's a good case for the price. there are some issues about the quality, though that doesn't surprise me because of the price.

The corsair air 240's innards also look good, but again, I've been reading about quality issues about it. It's also more expensive than the node 804 and the front panel is plastic unlike the node 804's aluminium.

or maybe I'll try to wait for the InWin 301 and pray that the price won't be too high.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on April 10, 2017, 10:00:48 PM
The InWin 301 retails for SGD130, not too bad.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 19, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
I just ordered a Synology Diskless NAS appliance so now I'm trying to decide whether to get WDC Red or Seagate Ironwolf HDDs to go with it.

Right now, I'm leaning towards Ironwolf HDDs because they're faster than WD Reds and they have exclusive drive monitoring features enabled in Synology's DSM NAS OS but what about reliability? Are WD Reds still the safer choice when it comes to reliability?

I will be using the NAS as a file and DLNA/UPnP media server with P2P downloading running in the background constantly.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: sandstig on April 19, 2017, 05:41:30 PM
I just ordered a Synology Diskless NAS appliance so now I'm trying to decide whether to get WDC Red or Seagate Ironwolf HDDs to go with it.

Right now, I'm leaning towards Ironwolf HDDs because they're faster than WD Reds and they have exclusive drive monitoring features enabled in Synology's DSM NAS OS but what about reliability? Are WD Reds still the safer choice when it comes to reliability?

I will be using the NAS as a file and DLNA/UPnP media server with P2P downloading running in the background constantly.

Willing to mix and go 50/50 on Red/Red Pros and Ironwolfs? Btw, seems like not all Ironwolfs are 7200rpm (http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/hdd/ironwolf/#specs). A bit confusing that they use the same brand for their 5900rpm and 7200rpm products.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Mr. Bungle on April 19, 2017, 07:54:29 PM

Willing to mix and go 50/50 on Red/Red Pros and Ironwolfs? Btw, seems like not all Ironwolfs are 7200rpm (http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/hdd/ironwolf/#specs). A bit confusing that they use the same brand for their 5900rpm and 7200rpm products.

Oh yeah, the 5900rpm Ironwolves are still faster than the 5400rpm non-pro Reds in benchmarks, specially in IOPS IIRC.

I thought about mixing them up too since I'll do RAID or SHR eventually but I'm going for a single drive for now with the intention to add more as needed later so I was wondering which brand to start out with first.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 25, 2017, 06:28:07 AM
a friend of mine's looking to buy a laptop in 15K-20K range. i'll paste what she's looking for below:

Good memory. Does nt lag esp wen online
Built in windows
Built in ms ofc - preferably
Decent batt life
Built in wifi and bluetooth,
Dvd drive - prferably
Camera
Nt too heavy


is there a laptop that's within her budget? and she's planning to buy from lazada. thanks!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on May 25, 2017, 09:33:11 AM
^ yes there is
http://www.lazada.com.ph/catalog/?q=acer%20notebook
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 25, 2017, 10:22:29 AM
i mean, could you guys help me narrow down a specific notebook that fits her needs? the reason why i asked instead of searching for it myself is because i am confused by lazada's different prices for what looks like notebooks with similar brand and specs. i am also not as familiar with mobile technology (the processors mystify me the most)  with their desktop equivalents.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on May 25, 2017, 12:21:00 PM
i think office bundling with laptops (Office 365) is just a trial now that M$ has moved to subscription model for office apps. you may have to install an older version of office to get full office apps now.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hungree on May 25, 2017, 12:23:55 PM
a friend of mine's looking to buy a laptop in 15K-20K range. i'll paste what she's looking for below:

Good memory. Does nt lag esp wen online
Built in windows
Built in ms ofc - preferably
Decent batt life
Built in wifi and bluetooth,
Dvd drive - prferably
Camera
Nt too heavy


is there a laptop that's within her budget? and she's planning to buy from lazada. thanks!

Most laptops now have ms office installed but usable for 30 days. Office 365 1yr subs costs ~2.4k  while Office Home and Student cost around 4.6k.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: altec on May 25, 2017, 12:26:25 PM
I've been casually window-shopping myself for lappies.

 Unfortunately, it seems I3 spec'ed notebooks like the asus x455lf and acer e5-475g are out of your range. Huwag Celeron.

First, Sephi, do determine too the screen size she's going for. I'm happy with my 15.6"-er but then i don't travel with it much. If you do take it around, mukahng mga 13-14" sana

 I don't own these but judging from the specs, and with ur budget in mind and screen size:

#16  Asus X455LA @ 22K. Intel Core i3-4005u 1.7GHz, 4GB Memory, 500GB HDD, Windows 10
http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Asus (http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Asus)


#17.  Acer Aspire ES1-433 (Black/Denim Blue) @ 20K 14-in HD Core i3-6006U/4GB/500GB/Intel HD Graphics/Windows 10

#15.  Acer Aspire One 14 Z1402-34M3 @ 19k LINUX
I'm not saying buy at Villman, maganda lang layout ng kanilang website, naka sort lappy's nila by price. =)

http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Acer_ (http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Acer_)

Hindi ko na tiningnan yung dell, pero maganda din namang brand yun.

OT: Glad that when you shop for Hedgren bags, the label tells you how big of a screen-size lappy will fit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 25, 2017, 12:40:38 PM
i think office bundling with laptops (Office 365) is just a trial now that M$ has moved to subscription model for office apps. you may have to install an older version of office to get full office apps now.
Most laptops now have ms office installed but usable for 30 days. Office 365 1yr subs costs ~2.4k  while Office Home and Student cost around 4.6k.
noted and info sent to her. thanks!

I've been casually window-shopping myself for lappies.

 Unfortunately, it seems I3 spec'ed notebooks like the asus x455lf and acer e5-475g are out of your range. Huwag Celeron.

First, Sephi, do determine too the screen size she's going for. I'm happy with my 15.6"-er but then i don't travel with it much. If you do take it around, mukahng mga 13-14" sana

 I don't own these but judging from the specs, and with ur budget in mind and screen size:

#16  Asus X455LA @ 22K. Intel Core i3-4005u 1.7GHz, 4GB Memory, 500GB HDD, Windows 10
http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Asus (http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Asus)



#17.  Acer Aspire ES1-433 (Black/Denim Blue) @ 20K 14-in HD Core i3-6006U/4GB/500GB/Intel HD Graphics/Windows 10

#15.  Acer Aspire One 14 Z1402-34M3 @ 19k LINUX
I'm not saying buy at Villman, maganda lang layout ng kanilang website, naka sort lappy's nila by price. =)

http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Acer_ (http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Acer_)

OT: Glad that when you shop for Hedgren bags, the label tells you how big of a screen-size lappy will fit.
the Acer Aspire ES1-433 seems to be available at Lazada at a lower cost than at Villman.

http://www.lazada.com.ph/acer-aspire-es1-433-38dr-intel-core-i3-4gb-windows-10-laptopmidnight-black-12537579.html?ff=1 (http://www.lazada.com.ph/acer-aspire-es1-433-38dr-intel-core-i3-4gb-windows-10-laptopmidnight-black-12537579.html?ff=1)

i sent her the link and i hope that's good enough for her. i'll let you know. thanks!


i doubt she's gonna play games on the laptop so that should suffice. she's also asking me for cellphone suggestions that will enable her to take pictures of X-rays and CT Scans, so i suppose she'll need the laptop to help her get a better, larger view of the photos.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: uvax on May 25, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
i think office bundling with laptops (Office 365) is just a trial now that M$ has moved to subscription model for office apps. you may have to install an older version of office to get full office apps now.
Most laptops now have ms office installed but usable for 30 days. Office 365 1yr subs costs ~2.4k  while Office Home and Student cost around 4.6k.
noted and info sent to her. thanks!

I've been casually window-shopping myself for lappies.

 Unfortunately, it seems I3 spec'ed notebooks like the asus x455lf and acer e5-475g are out of your range. Huwag Celeron.

First, Sephi, do determine too the screen size she's going for. I'm happy with my 15.6"-er but then i don't travel with it much. If you do take it around, mukahng mga 13-14" sana

 I don't own these but judging from the specs, and with ur budget in mind and screen size:

#16  Asus X455LA @ 22K. Intel Core i3-4005u 1.7GHz, 4GB Memory, 500GB HDD, Windows 10
http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Asus (http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Asus)



#17.  Acer Aspire ES1-433 (Black/Denim Blue) @ 20K 14-in HD Core i3-6006U/4GB/500GB/Intel HD Graphics/Windows 10

#15.  Acer Aspire One 14 Z1402-34M3 @ 19k LINUX
I'm not saying buy at Villman, maganda lang layout ng kanilang website, naka sort lappy's nila by price. =)

http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Acer_ (http://www.villman.com/Category-Brand/Notebook-PCs/Acer_)

OT: Glad that when you shop for Hedgren bags, the label tells you how big of a screen-size lappy will fit.
the Acer Aspire ES1-433 seems to be available at Lazada at a lower cost than at Villman.

http://www.lazada.com.ph/acer-aspire-es1-433-38dr-intel-core-i3-4gb-windows-10-laptopmidnight-black-12537579.html?ff=1 (http://www.lazada.com.ph/acer-aspire-es1-433-38dr-intel-core-i3-4gb-windows-10-laptopmidnight-black-12537579.html?ff=1)

i sent her the link and i hope that's good enough for her. i'll let you know. thanks!


i doubt she's gonna play games on the laptop so that should suffice. she's also asking me for cellphone suggestions that will enable her to take pictures of X-rays and CT Scans, so i suppose she'll need the laptop to help her get a better, larger view of the photos.

Your link says the seller is PC Express. You might as well inquire directly with them.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 25, 2017, 01:23:44 PM
Your link says the seller is PC Express. You might as well inquire directly with them.
thanks. but she's so busy she probably won't have time to goto PCX, so she'll have to have the item delivered to her home. also, i checked the PCX pricelist and the same model costs P19,999 for some reason.

when i asked what she will use the PC for, here are the tasks she usually does with a PC:
"ms word, powerpoint, excel, pdf, save and copy pics, save and copy pdfs, type notes on word. Surf internet with multiple sites, download video for reporting... Do research work most of d tym. Upload and backup data on cloud storage and also print files."

that Acer laptop should be more than enough for those, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on May 25, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
I will get a laptop when RYZEN releases one! woot!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Capcom on May 25, 2017, 10:37:37 PM
Your link says the seller is PC Express. You might as well inquire directly with them.
thanks. but she's so busy she probably won't have time to goto PCX, so she'll have to have the item delivered to her home. also, i checked the PCX pricelist and the same model costs P19,999 for some reason.

saw an Acer Aspire.. forgot the model... I3 -6xx , 4gb DDR4 14" and etc.. selling for  just 16k @ lazada
seller is also pc express


when i asked what she will use the PC for, here are the tasks she usually does with a PC:
"ms word, powerpoint, excel, pdf, save and copy pics, save and copy pdfs, type notes on word. Surf internet with multiple sites, download video for reporting... Do research work most of d tym. Upload and backup data on cloud storage and also print files."

that Acer laptop should be more than enough for those, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on May 26, 2017, 11:28:53 AM
Got my kid a Acer Aspire ES1-433 for 18k a couple of months ago at PCHub.

She loves it. Kaso nga lang black lang available color and she wanted a pink laptop..
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: WallyWest on May 26, 2017, 10:06:23 PM
How's this? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170526/f4c2b96690914d33b32f0b55664fb8e5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170526/9f5651de5d4f87fa73eab022cf9a62b9.jpg)

I'll admit medyo dubious ang seller name na "Kwan" and no reviews for the product yet but then there's Lazada buyer protection.

Lenovos are not much to look at but they're workhorses. Having multiple web browser tabs open use up quite a lot of memory so she'd better prepare to shell out a little more for a RAM upgrade.

Sent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: wheelee on May 27, 2017, 10:25:24 AM
^this spec looks better, if it's legit
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 27, 2017, 05:08:26 PM
sold out na yung Aspire. di sya nakapag order agad. mukhang sa southmall na lang sya bibili.

saw an Acer Aspire.. forgot the model... I3 -6xx , 4gb DDR4 14" and etc.. selling for  just 16k @ lazada
seller is also pc express
couldn't find it.

Got my kid a Acer Aspire ES1-433 for 18k a couple of months ago at PCHub.

She loves it. Kaso nga lang black lang available color and she wanted a pink laptop..
sana meron ganyan price sa sa southmall para sulit.
How's this?

I'll admit medyo dubious ang seller name na "Kwan" and no reviews for the product yet but then there's Lazada buyer protection.

Lenovos are not much to look at but they're workhorses. Having multiple web browser tabs open use up quite a lot of memory so she'd better prepare to shell out a little more for a RAM upgrade.
mukhang di ko hahayaan na bumili sya from unknown retailer kasi pag nasira ako lalapitan eh ayaw ko naman ako pa mag ayos.

hanap na lang ako ng ibang Lenovo kasi sold out yung Acer.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: dean on May 30, 2017, 10:26:50 AM
^yup, 4GB won't suffice so an added 4GB will be a helpful boost.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Sephiroth on May 30, 2017, 04:26:49 PM
update: she went to festival mall and found out that PCX still offers a slight discount on the Acer. she bought it. thanks for helping us, guys!
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: hungree on August 30, 2017, 08:25:00 AM
Guys do you know a store where i can buy Power Brick for my MSI GE60 2PC Apache Laptop? My current power brick is a Chicony 19.5V 6.15A 120W and I think it gives low current because when I play PUBG it switches from AC to Battery though its already configured in Nvidia CP. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on September 09, 2017, 03:23:46 AM
> 120W and up bricks are rare.  If you can't get one ordered online, try bringing it to Gilmore, usually those laptop parts & services stalls in the Gilmore IT bldg will have them.   
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: calvin on September 09, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
^ OEM Sony and HP bricks are available in Gilmore and Lazada... these are the two brands, that I know of, which use 120+ bricks.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on September 14, 2017, 11:24:37 AM
useful chart for gaming GPUs

(https://i.imgur.com/CHcUhcL.png)
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: barurutor on February 07, 2018, 01:57:44 PM
https://steemit.com/monitors/@ncx/ips-vs-tn-right-and-wrong-ways-to-use-or-view-how-to-vastly-reduce-ahva-ips-pls-glow-and-increase-the-perceived-black-depth
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: berdugoh on February 08, 2018, 03:27:31 PM
Any suggestion/recommendation for alternative to Ubiquity UniFi Wifi System?..
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: Capcom on June 06, 2018, 06:18:10 AM
Current Rig - Intel i5 2500 , Asrock B75 , 8Gb Crucial Ballistix DDR3

Option 1 - 19K
Intel I3 8100 (4Core,4Threads) , Asrock B360M Pro , 16Gb Team Elite DDR 4 2400

Option 2  - 12K
2nd Hand Core i7 3770 (4core,8Threads) , Old Board , 16Gb Zepplin DDR3
Will use old board... Buy new ram since board has 2 slots , and currently using 2x4gb

so how much faster is the old i7 3770 compared to a new i3 8100.. both are about the same price , parang yung ok lang sa option one is it's new and future proof ? ( or maybe not since this is intel baka bagong socket nanaman next year )

Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 23, 2018, 09:30:54 AM
need to build an elcheapo 15k build (monitor and KB/Mouse included) just for school (word,excel and internet research). AMD or Intel?  DDR3 or DDR4?
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 23, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
@Capcom
300 series boards should be good for one more generation (9000 series processors). The big motherboard makers already have BIOS updates that add "support for new generation CPU".
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i9-z370-support (https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i9-z370-support)



@jojitb

Intel. AMD has nothing that competes in the price range except for old Bulldozer based APUs because the newer Ryzen stuff starts at ~P5k for just the processor. The office got a few PCs with budget almost exactly like that for people who do desk work (PCX prices):

2850 Pentium G4560
3050 Asrock H110
2600 4GB RAM (single channel, so there's an option to go dual channel 8GB later on)
2200 1TB HDD
995 Neutron Phantom case+psu
430 Logitech KB+M combo
4100 Benq 20" 1600x900
-------
16225

They gave it to us for a bit over 15k a piece coz we bought several.

If the 15k budget is strict, then you can probably cheap-out a bit more on the motherboard (ECS or Biostar will be P400-500 cheaper than Asrock), and on the monitor (18.5" will save another P500-600). I'd prefer not to though because motherboard is pretty important and the no-brands might be using dodgy stuff on the power side, and going any smaller than 20" gets you those terrible 1366x768 panels.

The G4560 is really the star of this build, giving near i3 levels of processing for under P3000:
https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-pentium-g4560-review/ (https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-pentium-g4560-review/)
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-pentium-g4560-budget-cpu-king-review_1 (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-pentium-g4560-budget-cpu-king-review_1)

If you want AMD then moving the budget up to 20-22k opens up the options to include the new Ryzen 3 2200G APU.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 24, 2018, 07:13:36 AM
@splerdu

Salamat. I now have a starting point. gulat ako sa ram prices mahal pa din hahah. saka ang asrock ngayon kapresyo na ng asus. hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on July 24, 2018, 10:54:00 AM
@Capcom
300 series boards should be good for one more generation (9000 series processors). The big motherboard makers already have BIOS updates that add "support for new generation CPU".
https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i9-z370-support (https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i9-z370-support)



@jojitb

Intel. AMD has nothing that competes in the price range except for old Bulldozer based APUs because the newer Ryzen stuff starts at ~P5k for just the processor. The office got a few PCs with budget almost exactly like that for people who do desk work (PCX prices):

2850 Pentium G4560
3050 Asrock H110
2600 4GB RAM (single channel, so there's an option to go dual channel 8GB later on)
2200 1TB HDD
995 Neutron Phantom case+psu
430 Logitech KB+M combo
4100 Benq 20" 1600x900
-------
16225

They gave it to us for a bit over 15k a piece coz we bought several.

If the 15k budget is strict, then you can probably cheap-out a bit more on the motherboard (ECS or Biostar will be P400-500 cheaper than Asrock), and on the monitor (18.5" will save another P500-600). I'd prefer not to though because motherboard is pretty important and the no-brands might be using dodgy stuff on the power side, and going any smaller than 20" gets you those terrible 1366x768 panels.

The G4560 is really the star of this build, giving near i3 levels of processing for under P3000:
https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-pentium-g4560-review/ (https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-pentium-g4560-review/)
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-pentium-g4560-budget-cpu-king-review_1 (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-pentium-g4560-budget-cpu-king-review_1)

If you want AMD then moving the budget up to 20-22k opens up the options to include the new Ryzen 3 2200G APU.

Tried putting together a 2200 Ryzen rig. Umabot ng P20k and thats just for the proc, mobo, RAM and SSD.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: splerdu on July 24, 2018, 11:47:40 AM
^ Baka napamahal dahil sa mobo and SSD. Ryzen 3 2200G will work on A320 boards with a BIOS update, and there's the new value king of SSDs the Kingston A400 (1850 for 120GB).


Converting my suggested rig above to a Ryzen 3 2200G:

+2500 : Pentium G4560 (2850) -> Ryzen 3 2200G (5350)
+300 : Asrock H110 (3050) -> Gigabyte A320MDS2 (3350)
+2600 : 4GB DDR4 -> 2x 4GB DDR4
+1850 : +Kingston A400 SSD 120GB
--------------------
+7,250 (total)

= 23,475

or -2200 (delete 1TB HDD)
= 21,275


Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: lahar on July 24, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
^ Baka napamahal dahil sa mobo and SSD. Ryzen 3 2200G will work on A320 boards with a BIOS update, and there's the new value king of SSDs the Kingston A400 (1850 for 120GB).


Converting my suggested rig above to a Ryzen 3 2200G:

+2500 : Pentium G4560 (2850) -> Ryzen 3 2200G (5350)
+300 : Asrock H110 (3050) -> Gigabyte A320MDS2 (3350)
+2600 : 4GB DDR4 -> 2x 4GB DDR4
+1850 : +Kingston A400 SSD 120GB
--------------------
+7,250 (total)

= 23,475

or -2200 (delete 1TB HDD)
= 21,275




here's what I tried at Newegg Phils.

Giagabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3 = P5,825
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G = P5,360
GSkill DDR4 3600 2X4GB = P5,883
Samsung 860 Evo 250GB SSD = P4,092
Total = P21,160

I'm looking at boards that will work with Raven Ridge OOTB (pre-flashed to the latest BIOS), since there are a lot of complaints that some of the boards still require BIOS update (and an old Ryzen CPU) first.
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: jeremypv on July 24, 2018, 01:32:13 PM
for really really cheap build (~15k and below) you can't make a Ryzen build, all celeron and pentiums have integrated graphics which is enough for office apps and multimedia. you can even get those low-end NUC (around 7k, equivalent to proc/mobo/casing) which would result in the same price as @splerdu's build but you'll get a 4"x4" computer
Title: Re: Perpetual Hardware Suggestion Thread
Post by: bravoexo on August 02, 2018, 08:32:13 AM
Any good HDD docks out there?  I seem to have a knack of busting the on/off buttons of any hdd dock i use... (already busted three Vantec dual docks in the past, and now this dual Orico one seems like it's on/off button has gone bad too)