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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2003, 01:31:04 PM »
oy hinde ba si Scatman John yung me hawak ng rifle dya sa pic?...doobeedooboosheebopadoobyy

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2003, 01:35:10 PM »
Medyo mahaba but an interesting read:



From the editorial section of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

There's the Rub by Conrado de Quiros



I'll leave the following intact and without commentary as it summarizes

best what George Bush's war in Iraq is all about.  It comes from

Charles Sheketoff, the Executive Director of the Oregon Center for Public

Policy.  IT's called "Take the War-on-Iraq IQ Test," and goes:



Q: What percentage of the world's population does the United States

have?

A: 6 percent



Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the United States have?

A: 50 percent



Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?

A: Saudi Arabia



Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?

A: Iraq



Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?

A: $900+ billion



Q: How much of this is spent by United States?

A: 50 percent



Q: What percent of the US military spending would ensure the essentials

of life to everyone in the world according to the United Nations?

A: 10 percent (that's about $40 billion, the amount of funding

initially requested to fund the US retaliatory attack on Afghanistan)



Q: HOw many people have died in wars since World War II?

A: 86 million



Q: How long has Iraq had chemical and biological weapons?

A: Since the early 1980's



Q: Did Iraq develop these chemicals and biological weapons on its own?

A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government,

along with Britain and private corporations.



Q: Did the US government condemn the Iraqi use of gas warfare against

Iran?

A: No



Q: How many people did Saddam Hussein kill using gas in the Kurdish

town of Halabja in 1988?

A: 5,000



Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time?

A: 0



Q: How many gallons of Agent Orange did America use in Vietnam?

A: 17 million



Q: Are there any proven links between Iraq and Sept. 11 terrorist

attack?

A: No



Q: What is the estimated number of civillian casualties in the Gulf

War?

A: 35,000



Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western

forces during the Gulf War?

A: 0



Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by the US tanks

with ploughs mounted on the front?

A: 6,000



Q: HOw many tons of dpleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait after

the Gulf War?

A: 40 tons



Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq

between 1991 and 1994?

A: 700 percent



Q: How much of Iraq's military capacity did America claim it had

destroyed in 1991?

A: 80 percent



Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for anything

other than deterrence and self-defense?

A: No



Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10 years

ago?

A: No



Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon in the event of an attack

on Iraq in 2002/03?

A: 10,000



Q: What percentage of these will be children?

A: 50 percent



Q: How many years has the US engaged in air strikes on Iraq?

A: 11 years



Q: WEre the United States and the United Kingdom at war with Iraq

between December 1998 and September 1999?

A: No



Q: How many pounds of explosives were dropped on Iraq between December

1998 and September 1999?

A: 20 million



Q: How many years ago was UN REsolution 661 introduced, imposing strict

sanctions on Iraq'a imports and exports?

A: 12 years



Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000 births)?

A: 8



Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraq in 1999 (per 1,000

births)?

A: 131 (that's an increase of 345 percent)



Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a

result of UN sanctions?

A: 1.5 million



Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to sanctions

since 1997?

A: 750,000



Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?

A: No



Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?

A: 300



Q: How many of the inspections had problems?

A: 5



Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba'ath Party HQ?

A: Yes



Q: Who said that by December 1998, "Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to

a level unprecendented in modern history."

A: Scott Ritter, UN-SCOM chief



Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post-1991 capacity to develop weapons of

mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have discovered

and dismantled?

A: 90 percent



Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?

A: Over 65



Q: How many UN resolution on Israel did America veto between 1972 and

1990?

A: 30+



Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?

A: 8



Q: How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got?

A: 0



Q: How many nuclear warheads has the United States got?

A: Over 10,000



Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?

A: The United States



Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?

A: Over 400



Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about

things that matter"?

A: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2003, 07:03:01 PM »
Turk182,



yeah right.

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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2003, 07:47:17 PM »
now, after reading the above QnA's, here's the question:



Q: Do the answers above holds proof for its validity?



I'm not pro US nor Pro Iraq... it's just hard to believe anyone nowadays. What i just want to happen is to prevent ourselves to be affected by that war. It's senseless! Let US, British and Iraqi forces die in their war. It's not ours.



I hope our Muslim brothers won't take this as an attack on their religion.
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2003, 08:18:06 PM »
well... that's what I hear they say in CNN... saddam and his lieutenants also say a lot of things about peace, justice, love of country, etc.



now, who are we to believe more? a tyrant who kills his very own people using chemical weapons and is accountable only to himself or these 2 leaders who are risking their political future since they are going against the majority of what their electorate wants...



like schadow1 says, it is hard to believe anybody from both sides... but I guess it all boils down to choosing the lesser of 2 evils...
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2003, 08:45:00 PM »
Did anyone watch the press conference in Iraq? It would have been funny if it weren't so serious. I've never seen anyone call somebody "stupid" so many times on real TV.
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2003, 09:19:40 PM »
Iraq have deviced a fool-proof plan how to retaliate.. they fire their scud

missiles then tune in to CNN to check where it landed..clever blokes eh..hehehehe
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2003, 09:20:32 PM »
haha really? who was the speaker?  I read Saddam said this after US attacked Iraq



"criminal, reckless little Bush"

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2003, 12:50:22 AM »
well remember that they are an arab speaking people so english isn't really their thing.  parang tagalog.  hindi lahat ng salita nasasalin.

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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2003, 12:56:08 AM »
langya...



shell velocity was at 21.95 when i filled up my tank.  wala pang 12L  yung 250 ko.  ubos agad yan sa biyahe ko in a day.
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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2003, 01:12:13 AM »
The cheapest I saw yesterday was $2.05 a gallon for 87 octane here in Southern California. That's about P29.42 a liter. :(
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2003, 01:17:18 AM »
I think when they said "stupid," they really meant it.
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2003, 01:53:24 AM »
in case you guys weren't tuned in this morning:



world economies went on the upturn after declaration of war. ph stock index up 18 points, peso appreciated to 54.00 from 54.70.



this war is all about economy, and i believe it is engineered to boost economy, but only if the united states can succeed in their plan and finish it quickly.
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2003, 01:56:04 AM »
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this war is all about economy, and i believe it is engineered to boost economy, but only if the united states can succeed in their plan and finish it quickly.


Yes it is. It happened in Desert Storm. That's why it's easy for the coalition to say that they're not after the oil. They really don't need to trouble themselves.
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2003, 02:04:06 AM »
I was thinking the same thing. The US and other industrial economies haven't been recovering very fast . I guess this is a way to try and boost it. What a world we live in ...
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2003, 02:07:18 AM »
partly, there was an article in Fortune magazine (Feb 17 issue) which stated that the beginning of the war would be beneficial globally since it ends all the speculation of if, when and how the war will be waged.



but the war isn't the only solution to the current global economic woes.

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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2003, 02:08:18 AM »
btw, ang tapang nung dalawang newmen ng abs-cbn ... i believe they're the last media people right smack in bagdhad.

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2003, 02:09:17 AM »
The US is concerned with the US economic woes, not the whole world's. Else, they would have waited longer.
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2003, 02:15:06 AM »
Well, since all the industrial economies are dependent on each other (some more so than others) and the US economy is one of the largest and affects the most, it's almost the same thing.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2003, 02:16:41 AM »
Regardless, if this war drags on too long, I'd say their ploy will fail.
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