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Title: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on August 16, 2012, 11:48:10 AM
Sample lang, di ko pa sure kung ano pipiliin.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19176__Solo_PRO_100_3G_Flybarless_3D_Mirco_Helicopter_US_plug_RTF_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19176__Solo_PRO_100_3G_Flybarless_3D_Mirco_Helicopter_US_plug_RTF_.html)
Set the "location" to Philippines on the left hand side, and there's a "Postage Table" along the top menu.
Price: $142.35
Shipping: $20.53 (1,695g EMS)
Total: $162.88 or 6,883php

vs

http://helitrex.multiply.com/photos/album/38/MICRO-HELIS#photo=17 (http://helitrex.multiply.com/photos/album/38/MICRO-HELIS#photo=17)
Price: 7,950php


Looks like mas mura import. Pwede pa maglagay ng extra batteries. Pag bumili ba ako sa hobbyking, yan na lahat lahat? O may hidden charges pa? Diretso na yan sa bahay at wala nang additional tax sa customs? Covered na ba ng quoted na shipping yung customs fees? Diretso na ba yan sa bahay?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 16, 2012, 11:55:27 AM
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21316__Hobbyking_FP100_2_4Ghz_4CH_Micro_Helicopter_Mode_2_RTF_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__21316__Hobbyking_FP100_2_4Ghz_4CH_Micro_Helicopter_Mode_2_RTF_.html)

$44.59 (Heli + 900g EMS shipping) = 1,885php

This is listed at helitrex for 2,300php. Bought the same heli at divisoria for 2,000php (Now out of stock). Plus 200php pamasahe. Curious if i'd really have saved if i bought from them and that there aren't any other misc charges.


I'm going to try and buy something just to check what the total cost is really going to be, but i could use some input on what to expect.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: lahar on August 16, 2012, 12:21:09 PM
Sample lang, di ko pa sure kung ano pipiliin.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19176__Solo_PRO_100_3G_Flybarless_3D_Mirco_Helicopter_US_plug_RTF_.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__19176__Solo_PRO_100_3G_Flybarless_3D_Mirco_Helicopter_US_plug_RTF_.html)
Set the "location" to Philippines on the left hand side, and there's a "Postage Table" along the top menu.
Price: $142.35
Shipping: $20.53 (1,695g EMS)
Total: $162.88 or 6,883php

vs

http://helitrex.multiply.com/photos/album/38/MICRO-HELIS#photo=17 (http://helitrex.multiply.com/photos/album/38/MICRO-HELIS#photo=17)
Price: 7,950php


Looks like mas mura import. Pwede pa maglagay ng extra batteries. Pag bumili ba ako sa hobbyking, yan na lahat lahat? O may hidden charges pa? Diretso na yan sa bahay at wala nang additional tax sa customs? Covered na ba ng quoted na shipping yung customs fees? Diretso na ba yan sa bahay?

May idadagdag pa na tax diyan. Unless you declare its all used stuff.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 16, 2012, 12:25:10 PM
Meron ba estimate kung mga magkano dagdag? Kelangan ko pa pumunta sa customs para mabayaran?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: lahar on August 16, 2012, 12:27:40 PM
At least yung 12%VAT siguro at the minimum. Even with that, its already priced close to the local reseller (iwas hassle pa).
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on August 16, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
sa Post Office merong customs officer who assesses the value and the corresponding duties that you'll have to pay...
kahit sa UPS/Fedex meron ng duties and tax assessment... babayaran mo na lang pag deliver or kinuha mo na yung package.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 16, 2012, 12:42:34 PM
Meron bang tricks para maka menos? Pag dineclare na used lang ang trick para ma i-wa-wave na talaga yung tax?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on August 16, 2012, 12:47:07 PM
Meron bang tricks para maka menos? Pag dineclare na used lang ang trick para ma i-wa-wave na talaga yung tax?

pwede but I doubt the store declare it as used...
they're the ones who declare what's inside the package when they send it.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: beni on August 16, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Whenever I used SAL, my delivered items were never taxed by customs. I'm not sure why though. This same practice is also observed in countries.

From my experience, any kind of expedite delivery will be taxed even if it is declared used or a gift. Except books.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: bravoexo on August 16, 2012, 01:09:34 PM
New or not, it's by category still.  Toys are bracketed high, IIRC.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Al on August 16, 2012, 02:51:29 PM
If it's coming in via EMS, you're sure to get charged for duties and taxes.

I've forgotten the breakdown of the charge, but it ought to be at least worth 2000 Pesos.  I've had packages with values ranging from 4000-12000 Pesos (guitar parts and electronic devices) sent to me (EMS, FedEx and UPS). Laging between 2000-3000 additional charges sa akin.

So, yeah. It would probably be better to buy from the Multiply seller.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 16, 2012, 04:55:29 PM
@Al
I guess i'll be getting my RC supplies from helitrex then. I'm going to be building up a small fleet as i learn and get to a 450 sized heli, so i'll keep looking for a good local seller instead.

Anyway, just for experience, i ordered a $30 item from banggood via Airmail. A spare heli + 2 batteries + 1 charger, is 2,010php local price, and paypal got charged 1,290php from banggood.  Lets see how that goes. Eta two weeks? Maybe four?

BTW, i also ordered a spare heli from lowdog three weeks ago. Still waiting.
 
EDIT: BTW, saan mo pinickup? Local post office, o manila central?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Al on August 16, 2012, 09:00:46 PM
Courier services are door to door -- they can shoulder duties and taxes until the package makes it to you. Kung EMS, sa post office. They send you a notice if you need to pay for something.

I live outside Manila. For some reason I never get taxed when stuff get shipped to me through regular snail mail. I hear that is not the case within Manila.

The EMS office in Parañaque is amusingly next door neighbors with Customs. I used to love that shipping method back when I ordered stuff from Japan. Then they became a sure fire way to get taxed.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 16, 2012, 09:44:05 PM
By snail mail, do you mean "Air Parcel Register"? I really can't find a reference on how long it would take for snail mail to get here from China.

I don't suppose Sephiroth can say which post office it'll end up when the destination is Pacita. Google Earth says there's a post office in binan, another in muntinlupa, and i don't know why it's not listed, but i got my postal ID in Pacita... which presumably is a postal office.

And in future transactions, i don't suppose they know about helicopters enough to know the difference between a 14,000php micro heli from a 1,200php one?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Al on August 16, 2012, 11:58:41 PM
I ordered a set of Angry Birds stuffed toys from Focal Price which took 3 weeks to reach me. No additional fees paid.

What matters is the declared value and classification, not the finer details regarding the actual content.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: athlonFan on August 17, 2012, 03:31:38 AM
ganito computation IIRC...I have created a fairly accurate excel spreadsheet for this purpose but can't find it.

250 for random stamps
250 for the transaction

+

A=item+shipping (*.12)
B=item+shipping +A (*10)
C=B+A

so sa 5000php  item with 1000php

A=6000*.12 = 720
B=6720*.10 = 672
C=672+720

total tax: 1892PhP



if you want it cheaper and faster, go Johnny air cargo.

5usd/lb... min of 5lbs = 25usd = around 1k
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 17, 2012, 04:12:05 AM
Saan nanggaling yung 1,000php?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on August 17, 2012, 08:12:49 AM
Saan nanggaling yung 1,000php?

shipping fee
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 17, 2012, 11:16:24 AM
Wow! Even the shipping fee is taxed? Good thing it's free shipping!
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on August 17, 2012, 10:29:09 PM
for duty

(invoice value + freight + insurance) x rate of duty (rate of duty is around 1-20%, depends on the tariff classification of your items)

for tax

(invoice value + freight + insurance + duty + brokerage + 250.00 (this is for import processing)) x 12%

add those two values up and you got the total duties and taxes


EDIT:
insurance is around 2% of the total value of goods



Wow! Even the shipping fee is taxed? Good thing it's free shipping!
just make sure that you have the shipper indicate in the invoice CIF as your terms para yung buong value na lang ang x duty rate. other wise, they will still include the freight in the computation of duties and taxes.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 17, 2012, 11:17:49 PM
What is freight? Banggoods says 'free shipping' so does that mean there is no freight and no insurance?

For this experiment, my break even point is 2,010php. Since the total price is 1,290php, i will have to be taxed about 60% before it's considered a loss. Even then, considering some of the items are unavailable, a slightly higher price difference may still be acceptable. Note that i ordered the exact same helicopter from a local store three weeks ago and it has still yet to arrive, so convenience isn't necessarily a factor for going local.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 18, 2012, 01:34:13 PM
Well that was a bummer. Regarding the local sellers,  Despite asking for a reserve three weeks ago and calling for updates twice a week.  They apparently sold all their helicopter units as soon as they arrived without even telling me. Last time I checked was the 14th and the shipments haven't arrived yet, I called today and they've apparently sold everything at their store. I'll have to wait another two weeks for the next batch.

I certainly hope this banggood experiment is a success.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on August 21, 2012, 04:23:21 PM
What is freight? Banggoods says 'free shipping' so does that mean there is no freight and no insurance?

For this experiment, my break even point is 2,010php. Since the total price is 1,290php, i will have to be taxed about 60% before it's considered a loss. Even then, considering some of the items are unavailable, a slightly higher price difference may still be acceptable. Note that i ordered the exact same helicopter from a local store three weeks ago and it has still yet to arrive, so convenience isn't necessarily a factor for going local.

freight is the cost of having the goods brought here in the Philippines from the origin. Even if its "free" shipping, you still need to have the vendor put "CIF" as the terms so as to emphasize that the invoice value already includes both freight and insurance. otherwise, customs will still add those to the computation.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 23, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
Ordered August 16 2012
Shipped August 23 2012

Wow, is it always like this?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 06, 2012, 11:44:34 AM
Finally arrived today
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5361/img20120906105734.jpg)
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6982/img20120906105706.jpg)

Picked it up at the Pacita Post office and the handling fee was 40php. They didn't check what was inside, just a lady at a desk that handed me the box and commenting that it doesn't have a return address.

Also this is what it says on the back

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8528/img20120906111729.jpg)

Ordered August 16, went out of the warehouse on the 23rd, and arrived on Sep 6. So that would make it three weeks. Provincial post office branches really are more lenient.
 :happy:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on September 06, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Nice clothes, bro. How does it fly?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 06, 2012, 01:39:16 PM
The v911 is only a four channel, hence the 30 degree flybar. It's like putting training wheels on your heli. If you lose control, just let go of the right stick, it'll move a few feet until it levels out and just float there. It will fly, hands free. If you just want to fly a heli for fun, this is it. It's hit trees and tower anchors, fallen twenty feet, hit walls, rolling crashes, etc. It's still alive. My first one only died because it crashed so hard the tail motor fell out and tore out its wires, but every other part was still working. Just glue that tail motor in and you can crash it all you want, if it hits you, the blades will *NOT* break skin.

Maybe i can try buying something bigger next time. Anybody recommend any other online stores? Banggoods RC inventory isn't as comprehensive as a dedicated RC store.

Total cost from ordering online (Helicopter + 2 batteries + 1 charger):

1,289.50 php at the banggood checkout
40.00 php at the post office.
22.00 php pamasahe
= 1,351.50 php total.

 
Total cost for same items local store

2,010.00 php at lowdog
152.00 php pamasahe
= 2,162.00 php total.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: AJ on September 06, 2012, 01:42:08 PM
cool.

congrats man for dogding taxes. :D
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on September 06, 2012, 05:04:36 PM
Wow, great! Any idea if a small camera can be put into it.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 06, 2012, 05:54:53 PM
Wow, great! Any idea if a small camera can be put into it.

Nope, it's not that strong. If i want to try FPV tho, i'd rather get either a Hubsan Lynx (Heli with camera) or a Hubsan Spyhawk (Plane with camera). I wonder how much i'll get charged at the post office if i were to get a large heli.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Al on September 06, 2012, 10:52:31 PM
Wow, great! Any idea if a small camera can be put into it.
Do you have any idea how many light bulbs in my head you just lit up!? Now I want one that can. LOL...
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: splerdu on September 06, 2012, 11:10:09 PM
The trackhos mile video actually made use of a small remote-controlled heli with a camera (gopro, afaik) attached to it.
A bit bigger than what you used though.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 06, 2012, 11:46:43 PM
Wow, great! Any idea if a small camera can be put into it.
Do you have any idea how many light bulbs in my head you just lit up!? Now I want one that can. LOL...

6,800php at lowdogs

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmB580DuAhI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Al on September 08, 2012, 05:00:58 PM
Nice. I also checked actual aerial video footages from the guy's youtube channel. If the feed from this heli can be recorded too, then it has some potential uses for my university work.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: popoy on September 10, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
I have the same heli (just different brand name) 1.4k at divisoria x-mas last year.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 12, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
Ordered another set of parts from chinesejade.com. Hopefully i'll get through with it too.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 18, 2012, 10:17:39 AM
Tracking site says the package left hongkong on the 14th. How long does it take a container ship to get to Manila?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on September 18, 2012, 03:26:56 PM
Tracking site says the package left hongkong on the 14th. How long does it take a container ship to get to Manila?

It's usually longer to wait for BOC inspection and release than the actual freight time from HK to PHL.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: juke on September 18, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
Tracking site says the package left hongkong on the 14th. How long does it take a container ship to get to Manila?
2-6 weeks. If it longer than 6 weeks there's a big chance that it was already been gifted to one's self.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on September 18, 2012, 03:58:35 PM
^ not really... sometimes, it came with "dubious" shipment so BOC personnel takes longer to sort out the legit ones from the smuggled items.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: juke on September 18, 2012, 05:54:30 PM
^I never said it's for sure.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 19, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
Akala ko dumating na yung galing chinesejade.com yung galing banggood lang pala ang dumating sa post office.


Shaft bearings 171.45php
 
(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/6199/img20120919112152.jpg)

Didn't set the tracking option.
Ordered: Aug 24
Arrived: Sep 19
Post office fee: 40php

26 days
 
(Local seller didn't have them... actually, i told them to call me when their new stock arrives and they still haven't yet)  ???
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 19, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
When chinese jade shipment arrives, will it be alright to ask how much it'll cost to get a box that's 3'x1'x1'. I may try getting a helicopter kit next.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 20, 2012, 08:21:18 PM
Got several recommendations for ehirobo.com. Ordered a receiver unit to test it out. $4.56 shipping fee via Air Parcel. Lets see how long this one takes.

Lots of cheap helis. A flybarless 450 sized heli is only about 5,600php. I really need to ask at the post office what the fees i'll be needing for pay to release it if i ever get one.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 27, 2012, 09:34:04 AM
I got the item from terrencejade.com. It was ordered on the 13th, it arrived in the philippines on the 20th, and i got a notice for pickup on the 26th. That's 14 days.

Front
(http://imageshack.us/a/img825/5795/img20120926114933.jpg)

Back. Pretty fast. Fee is also 40php even tho the declared value is $27.00
(http://imageshack.us/a/img585/7355/img20120926114943.jpg)

All that fit in the little white box in the upper left, which also contained the spare main chasis.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img440/3382/img20120926115120.jpg)

The red pouch had a jade pendant in it.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img94/6774/img20120926115250.jpg)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 27, 2012, 01:13:38 PM
Upgrades installed  :happy:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img16/4770/blupgrade.jpg)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on October 03, 2012, 11:42:39 PM
www.ehirobo.com (http://www.ehirobo.com)
Test ordered a receiver unit on Sep 20. Arrived Sep 27. Received pickup notice Oct 3. 13 Days. And the usual 40php fee.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img825/8236/img20121003230218.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img40/6703/img20121003230205.jpg)
Things to note. There's no printed receipt inside. Your email and phone number are printed on the side.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on October 11, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
Another order from ChineseJade.com. Ordered Oct 2, arrived at post office Oct 10. Wow, that was fast.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on October 16, 2012, 08:37:55 PM
Uh-oh

Ordered a big one last Oct 10, had it shipped via "Speedpost" which seems to go via plane. Arrived last fri Oct 12 and has been labelled "Pending Customs Inspection) ever since. This hasn't happened when i used "Air Parcel".

Should i be worried?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: juke on October 17, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
^Expect around 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on October 17, 2012, 11:25:15 PM
 :unsure:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on October 18, 2012, 08:26:01 AM
:unsure:

It's close to xmas season... madami ng pinaprocess sa BOC...
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on October 19, 2012, 01:02:25 PM
Package arrived.

Ordered Oct 10 Wednesday last week, arrived in the philippines thursday, got held by customs friday, passed customs Oct 18 thursday night, got called by Pacita post office today friday.

Fee is 40php.


I guess Speed Post is more detailed than Air Parcel. When i checked this morning the site said i should go to the post office to pick up the package. Sure enough, less than an hour later, i got a text message asking me to go to pacita for a pickup.

Now i just have to take these parts and turn them into a working helicopter.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img255/3498/img20121019125336.jpg)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on October 19, 2012, 02:18:41 PM
From Singapore
Status Tracking
Date   Status   Notes
9/14/2012 6:59:01 PM    PaymentConfirmed
9/22/2012 3:03:58 AM    PrepareShipment    Order is being prepared for shipment.
9/24/2012 8:20:01 AM    FullShipment    All items have been shipped.
10/8/2012 9:20:07 AM   ShipmentArrived   All Items have reached destination country.


=====
Today
10/19/2012 12:09:34 AM   I got a postal notice from QC Post Office


Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 06, 2013, 10:40:12 AM
I may have a problem guys.

Ordered from eHirobo on Dec 10th, it arrived on Dec 22. No problem.

Ordered from eHirobo on Dec 18th, it arrived in the Philippines on Jan 5, it is now Feb and i personally went to the Post office the other day to check and they say there's nothing on their system. So where is it? I asked for a number on who to call and they can't give me one.

There's another order back on Jan 10th, it arrived in the philippines on the Jan 22nd, and now i'm wondering if that one's lost too.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: i2mp on February 06, 2013, 12:07:44 PM
I shipped my friend's laptop via JohnnyAir cargo. One week lang from LA to Makati.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on February 06, 2013, 12:17:37 PM
Baka dahil nataon sa pasko? November nagpadala kami ng maliit na envelope na may DVD papuntang Russia kahapon lang dumating yung return receipt.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: splerdu on February 06, 2013, 12:55:37 PM
US to Philippines is super fast.
Amazon shipped my stuff in 3 days.

@Louie, @Hajile
Lost in the local post labyrinth?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: i2mp on February 06, 2013, 01:13:06 PM
I was just sharing my experience, lol. First time ko gumamit ng JohnyAir.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: splerdu on February 06, 2013, 01:18:22 PM
My bad, si Hajile pala yung may nawalang package.
Yes, Johnny Air is pretty good.

The problem with international mail is eventually the package ends up with the Philippine Post Office.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 06, 2013, 01:53:31 PM
I'm trying to think of what to do now. I'm supposed to get a message on where to pick it up. Whether it's in the post office or in customs right? But haven't gotten anything. The local post office wouldn't tell me the main office's number, nor do they know who i'm supposed to contact. I've tried going to the philpost site, but the number for air parcels there is not in service.

Any idea who i'm supposed to contact? I've sent a message to all three email addresses there but i'm not sure if that will even get answered.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: calvin on February 06, 2013, 02:23:19 PM
I may have a problem guys.

Ordered from eHirobo on Dec 10th, it arrived on Dec 22. No problem.

Ordered from eHirobo on Dec 18th, it arrived in the Philippines on Jan 5, it is now Feb and i personally went to the Post office the other day to check and they say there's nothing on their system. So where is it? I asked for a number on who to call and they can't give me one.

There's another order back on Jan 10th, it arrived in the philippines on the Jan 22nd, and now i'm wondering if that one's lost too.

Call this Philpost main office... 527 0067
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 06, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Call this Philpost main office... 527 0067

International Affairs Department? Check ko mamaya, thanks.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on February 06, 2013, 08:18:47 PM
Hopefully it wasn't turned into someone's Christmas present. Was it a whole helicopter?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 06, 2013, 08:30:27 PM
Not much. Maybe four rechargeable batteries about the size of a 1 peso coin and a pair of rotor blades for the GeniusCP. A bit over 900php worth.

The other order that arrived Jan 22 is a big one. A couple of 2200mah batteries, a four button charger, and a handful of battery connectors. About 2500php. It's almost two weeks, hopefully that one gets through.
 
How does our postal service rank overall compared to other countries anyway?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: AJ on February 07, 2013, 08:17:24 AM
^I can vouch for Singapore and Australia post from personal experience.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: lahar on February 07, 2013, 08:24:21 AM
Not much. Maybe four rechargeable batteries about the size of a 1 peso coin and a pair of rotor blades for the GeniusCP. A bit over 900php worth.

The other order that arrived Jan 22 is a big one. A couple of 2200mah batteries, a four button charger, and a handful of battery connectors. About 2500php. It's almost two weeks, hopefully that one gets through.
 
How does our postal service rank overall compared to other countries anyway?

So far lahat naman ng pinadala ko na EMS nakakarating (to and from the Philippines).
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: juke on February 07, 2013, 09:29:47 AM
US to Philippines is super fast.
Amazon shipped my stuff in 3 days.
Could you elaborate on its process for shipment to the PH? And how much does it cost?
I haven't tried to order from Amazon because I am afraid of possible hassles of the process, so mostly I prefer to order only small things and from individuals or small companies. And of course, taking into consideration of the shipping cost.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 07, 2013, 11:09:02 AM
Ok next time puro EMS na lang ako.
I've tried calling the numbers again and either it's not connected, cutoff, redirected, or a fax machine. The international affairs department is answered by a modem  >:(
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: splerdu on February 07, 2013, 12:50:38 PM
Could you elaborate on its process for shipment to the PH? And how much does it cost?
I haven't tried to order from Amazon because I am afraid of possible hassles of the process, so mostly I prefer to order only small things and from individuals or small companies. And of course, taking into consideration of the shipping cost.

I just ordered a book and a CD and chose the 2-3 day international express option. Nothing else to do, the stuff just showed up after 2 days. Book was a hardcover WoT 14, shipping came to $34 for the package, but luckily amazon had $20 discount on the item. I just sort of reinvested the discount into shipping by choosing the international express option.

I'll take pictures of the packaging later. They used bags of air to protect the contents instead of the usual styrofoam. Arrived in excellent condition, even the edges of the paper cover were perfectly square. Certainly better condition than some of the new stock you find at Fully Booked.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: splerdu on February 11, 2013, 01:25:27 AM
Pics as promised.
Took so long because I couldn't find the air bags they used to pad the box anymore.

box (RC battery shown for scale [and to hide my address {and to hold the lid down}])
(http://i.imgur.com/jv6fkMj.jpg)

opened box (air bags missing coz i've since misplaced them, but imagine tiny air-tight plastic bags around the book)
(http://i.imgur.com/2iiljiy.jpg)

item (book edges are perfectly undamaged and super square. much better condition than getting something off of a local bookstore shelf)
(http://i.imgur.com/EhNvQ0x.jpg)

Amazon ftw! There's also good feedback from people who have ordered DVDs amazon.uk (see PDVD forums) with the regular delivery option.

I also recall ordering via regular mail many years ago, and the package was also delivered straight to-door. Matagal nga lang, more than a month for shipping.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 20, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
After two months, package finally arrived. This one's different tho, it had PhilPost marking on it and was inside a philpost bag. There are also two dates, Jan 5 (as said on the tracking site) and Jan 31. Possible they lost it and got re-inserted into the system after a month?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on February 20, 2013, 07:52:19 PM
Probably so. But at least you still got it!
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on April 04, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
Finally received the Jan order. This time I got taxed. 1000php for a 2000php parcel ???

(http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=5671133&d=1365065649)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on June 26, 2013, 03:01:58 PM
Just an update, I've been continuing my monthly order and so far, the best way seems to be to simply use EMS. It's about $15-$20 (about 600-900php) minimum but it consistently gets here in about a week.

Also a tip, tell the person you shipped from to keep the total invoice under $40. You won't get taxed as long as you stay below that.

As to what I've been building up?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWyjB89XVmU[/youtube]
That's just me walking the quad around testing for spots with bad signal to avoid later on. I just did my first FPV from launch to landing this morning but the DVR didn't record! @#$%!!!!!
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on June 26, 2013, 03:56:45 PM
Coolness! I wonder if you can have it bring a Go Pro.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on June 27, 2013, 04:12:44 PM
Depends. My quad is rated for 2.88kg, my current weight is 1.44 and optimally, you're only supposed to go up to 50%, but since I'm into FPV, I won't be doing any acrobatics so I can probably add another 200 grams.

If I change the props and battery I can probably increase the rating to about 4kg, not sure i'd want to do that until I get some more experience.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/188/a9mt.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img841/2521/6w7a.jpg)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zUde1C4N4[/youtube]

 :happy:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: berdugoh on June 27, 2013, 04:31:16 PM
^Wow! Spy Drone!
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on June 28, 2013, 01:09:58 PM

Not really much good for spying. All you can really see are people shaped thingies and the general color of their shirts.

Getting more confident

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fyoMYmMIIo[/youtube]

When i was flying, i thought it was kinda slow. When i got back and reviewed the video, i checking the timing and distance on google earth. I calculated it be going 50kph in one of the straight runs, 60kph in another.


 B)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: berdugoh on June 28, 2013, 02:24:20 PM
^Parang mabagal talaga pag nasa taas ka pero kung titignan mo sa baba mabilis ung takbo mo. Experience this nung nakasakay ako sa ultalights planes. parang ang bagal lang pero nung napanood ku ung video (my dad is video recording it while in flight) ang bilis pala.. Talk about air speed and land speed..
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: KonZ3N on June 28, 2013, 09:22:40 PM

@Hajile
Testing sa beach, hehehe  :wub:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on July 07, 2013, 12:35:09 PM
I wish  >:D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCK8Mqb5nnU[/youtube]
Getting better  B)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on August 01, 2013, 09:41:31 PM
Even better B)
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iclGdlacjsI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on November 04, 2013, 11:11:07 AM
Man, it's well over a month now, and the order still hasn't arrived yet. The lipo restrictions really did a number on EMS.




Anyway, latest flight at San Mateo last weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28RWUPoQfus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28RWUPoQfus)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: berdugoh on November 04, 2013, 05:25:05 PM
^ Sir kaya ba ung SLR dyan?
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on November 04, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
I seriously doubt it, i'm at my weight limit already. SLR cameras are very heavy and it'll also have to accommodate the weight of the gimbal as well. You'll need a lifter type quad. They tend to be slower and bulkier, but they have more powerful motors and a bigger frame.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: berdugoh on November 04, 2013, 05:57:28 PM
Umm... GoPro camera siguro kaya pa?.. Planning to buy one kasi for aerial video.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on November 04, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
Kung gopro lang ok pa. Pero gandahan mo dapat ang pagkakabuo para ma minimize ang vibration. Maglalagay ka rin ng padding para sa vibration dampening.

Kung walang dampeners, para kang naglalaro ng game na naka off ang vsync.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: uvax on November 04, 2013, 07:31:20 PM
I seriously doubt it, i'm at my weight limit already. SLR cameras are very heavy and it'll also have to accommodate the weight of the gimbal as well. You'll need a lifter type quad. They tend to be slower and bulkier, but they have more powerful motors and a bigger frame.

If you want something lighter than DSLRs take a look at mirrorless cameras. The OMD EM-5 has very good 5-axis stabilization and there are reviews already on it in use for quadcopter applications.
http://www.4to400.com/feed/2012/4/29/olympus-omd-em5-a-kopter-specific-review.html (http://www.4to400.com/feed/2012/4/29/olympus-omd-em5-a-kopter-specific-review.html)
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on December 06, 2013, 07:04:02 PM
1km test flight with home made antenna.

[youtube]-NT1Lchguh0[/youtube]

Battery ran low just as i was about to reach Splash Island. Didn't get close enough to see girls in bikinis. Damn :lol:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on December 09, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
Yay! FPV Plane!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og6SDULhNo4
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: dean on December 12, 2013, 11:18:48 AM
lol nice!
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on December 12, 2013, 11:49:18 AM
Sobra dali pala magpalipad ng airplane. Helicopter = 5 months, multirotor = 2 months, airplane = 5 days.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on December 14, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
How a plane wing works :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usXdzPSmeNc
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on January 06, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
Someone took a video of the plane while I was flying FPV. This was the first time I've actually seen myself fly :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ae9pCnJqZ0
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on January 21, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
Proximity flight with the mini quad :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kiwqt9Tjtk
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on January 24, 2014, 12:58:06 AM
Someone invited me as a part time pilot and try out an Aerial Photography business. Baka meron dyang gusting mag pa kuha ng aerial shots, hiramin ko yung hexacopter at ma try lang   :mellow:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: lahar on January 24, 2014, 09:43:35 AM
UNTV is now using drones for aerial shots:

http://www.yugatech.com/news/untv-employs-dji-phantom-drones-for-broadcasting/ (http://www.yugatech.com/news/untv-employs-dji-phantom-drones-for-broadcasting/)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOvvEBpdxu0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on January 24, 2014, 11:37:20 AM
I'm not too fond of that idea tho. General rule of RC is that you don't fly a quad over people or cars. There are some leeway towards octocopters because they have some redundancy, but if anything goes wrong on a quad there's no control at all and it's an imminent crash. And I'm speaking from experience, when a quad gets a malfunction, there's no saving it.

When a conventional helicopter loses power, you can still autorotate it into a controlled landing (Had several cases of dead cyclic servos, motors that unscrewed themselves, etc. they all survived), Hexacopters will spin if one prop goes out but it'll stay more or less in the air for a controlled landing, an Octocopter can lose an arm, and it'll just keep going.

A quad? One twitch and it'll go straight down. A quad like the phantom that's self stabilizing? That's even worse. Software crashes aren't unusual and when that happens, the computer will ignore the pilot inputs and send itself flying into the sunset. You know how people wonder what will happen if the google cars OS goes bluescreen while on the highway? That's already happening on the Phantom since it was introduced into the market.

Do you know why the guy wanted to hire me? It's because these NAZAs (The flight controller that runs these phantoms) are advertised as so easy to use and self stabilizing that anybody can pick them up and fly. So would be photographers are snatching them up intending to use them as aerial platforms. Unfortunately, they don't actually know how to fly an RC. This guy got sucked into the hype, bought a 40 thousand peso (my estimate) RC, and crashed it into someone's car! So now he wants me to pilot it for him.

:huh:

I'm gonna see if I can teach him to fly properly. Maybe have him put together a smaller quad to practice on.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on February 21, 2014, 12:32:32 PM
Managed to get it to carry a good camera (Still not a gopro).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZbauYblxE[/youtube]


Also, there may be some aerial footage of a female marathon runner on this weeks Reel Time on GMA. I was the pilot :silly:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on March 14, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/352203/newstv/reeltime/cinematic-aerials-for-reel-time-docu-made-possible-by-tempest-films (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/352203/newstv/reeltime/cinematic-aerials-for-reel-time-docu-made-possible-by-tempest-films)


Got featured  :happy:
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on May 17, 2014, 09:34:48 AM
Wheeeeee!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV-BWMvipW0
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on September 01, 2014, 08:29:08 PM

I crashed  ???  Still a good flight tho  :silly:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAy3iZ6sct0
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on January 27, 2015, 09:24:41 AM
Hajile,

Would you mind if I renamed this into a perpetual drone thread?

Anyway, we have a AR Drone Parrot (SD version) at home and it's a quad. I'd like to learn how to fly it well so I was trying to look for a cheap micro drone that I can fly around the house, backyard or here in the office. Any recommendations?

Have you also tried making a DIY FPV camera? Or is it just better to get an FPV equipped quad like the Hubsan 107d?

Also, are there small RC planes that you can recommend? And I wonder if it's possible to have one that can do orbits ala Predator drone? We like to play milsim Airsoft so we're looking at possibilities in incorporating drones into our games.
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Hajile on January 27, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
Hajile,

Would you mind if I renamed this into a perpetual drone thread?

Yeah, better rename it. It's about putting together a drone from where to get parts to final testing.

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Anyway, we have a AR Drone Parrot (SD version) at home and it's a quad. I'd like to learn how to fly it well so I was trying to look for a cheap micro drone that I can fly around the house, backyard or here in the office. Any recommendations?

Yeah, a micro drone is highly recommended. The controls are near identical to their bigger counterparts so if you master the micro, you'll have an easier time learning on the big one since you've done most of your crashes on the little ones.

Go to fourth floor of 168, north side next to the escalators. There's a couple of stores there that sells hobby toys, including micro quads. There's also a store called lowdogs at Ortigas just behind Robinsons galleria.

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Have you also tried making a DIY FPV camera? Or is it just better to get an FPV equipped quad like the Hubsan 107d?

All my FPV cameras are DIY, specifically, cameras with the model number "PZ0420" or one of its variants, it's pretty popular, the variants are made by different manufacturers and layouts but they all have the same optical sensor and chipset.

I'd recommend going with the DIY because you'll be able to move it between frames as you upgrade, altho it also means you need to assemble your own frames as well rather than the Ready-To-Fly models (RTF).

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Also, are there small RC planes that you can recommend? And I wonder if it's possible to have one that can do orbits ala Predator drone? We like to play milsim Airsoft so we're looking at possibilities in incorporating drones into our games.

None. You're looking for a feature called 'Loiter Mode' where the plane will circle around one spot at a certain altitude.

I would advise against getting a small plane as they're actually harder to fly than the big ones. Buy a foamie. The one i have (Bixler 2) was bought from hobbyking for around 3.5k (Radio and FPV gear not included). It can get rather complicated wiring them up for scout capability. These have between 1.5m to 2m wingspans, the massive wings mean they can fly slower to get the same lift as well as plenty of space in the cockpit for larger batteries.


You can buy a flight controller with GPS capability (Google APM or ArduPilotMega) but if you're going to be tracking people, you'll be flying manual anyway. Just get the plane, FPV gear, and Radio. No need for a flight controller.








Also, here's a video i made when people kept asking how i practice flying a multirotor. They're becoming popular lately but it seems most only takes them out of the box, and then punch the throttle without actually knowing how to fly it. If all you're doing is making it float around, then it's just a very expensive balloon, one that can crash into peoples cars when it runs out of batteries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-FlC6KLBiQ
Title: Re: Importing?
Post by: Louie on January 27, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
Can controllers and screens be used on different platforms? Like if I get a Hubsan X4 with no FPV capability and then add a micro camera to it and use a controller with a screen, will it do?

For our airsoft scenarios, I was thinking that if a certain objective is met, the team gets access to a drone that they can use to scout the area, hence the need for an FPV.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on January 27, 2015, 01:33:13 PM
Hmm do you have anything to recommend for a small starter? Something like this?

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/66985826/LS112+4CH+Nano+Airocraft+Drone+Quadcopter+NoCamera?referralKeywords=drone&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-15,15#advertisementDetails
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 27, 2015, 09:02:25 PM
Can controllers and screens be used on different platforms? Like if I get a Hubsan X4 with no FPV capability and then add a micro camera to it and use a controller with a screen, will it do?

Something like that would require a DIY frame. The X4 is too small to carry FPV gear externally, if you want something small enough to be easily carried while powerful enough for scouting missions, i would recommend looking into mini quads.

Quote
For our airsoft scenarios, I was thinking that if a certain objective is met, the team gets access to a drone that they can use to scout the area, hence the need for an FPV.

It would be easier to get a frame like a DJI 450 Flamewheel and build on that. It's the most basic frame that can carry FPV gear as well as a few extras like a lost plane alarm so you can find it if it crashes into the bushes, there's enough room in it that you can just keep adding stuff without having to deal with wire management.

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a6702786-233-zd19.jpg)

Hmm do you have anything to recommend for a small starter? Something like this?

http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/66985826/LS112+4CH+Nano+Airocraft+Drone+Quadcopter+NoCamera?referralKeywords=drone&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-15,15#advertisementDetails

Any microquad using brushed motors similar to that will do. The main thing you're looking for is repairability, it would be a big plus if you can find motors and props that would fit it if something breaks.

These things uses standard components so you'll likely be able to find motors and props meant for a different quad and they'll still work.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on January 28, 2015, 05:25:25 AM
What's the price breakdown for building up a kit like the one you have in the picture?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 28, 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Quad
450 X-Frame = 1,000php (Available in most hobbyshops, just say 450 Flamewheel or one of its clones)
KK2 flight controller = $30 (Hobbyking)
4x Sunnysky 980kv motors = 850php each, 3400php total (Lowdogs)
4x 30A Afro ESC = $14 each, $56 total (Hobbyking)
Power Distribution Board = $2 (Hobbyking)

FPV Equipment
PZ0420 Camera + Metal Casing = $50 (SecurityCamera2000)
200mw 5.8Ghz Transmitter and Receiver pair = $55 (Hobbyking)
5.8Ghz Circularly Polarized Antenna = $30(Hobbyking)
FieldView 777 7" LCD = $80 (Hobbyking)
DVR = $50 (Hobbyking)

Radio
Turnigy 9XR Mode 2 Controller = $50 (Hobbyking)
FrSky Module and Receiver = $40 (Hobbyking)



Propellers and Batteries are considered consumables, you typically need to change propellers after two weeks of daily flying, the exact length of time it wears out depends on how you fly and the brand. 2200mah3S Batteries are around 750php at lowdogs, and i carry them in pairs. Two 2200mah3S are cheaper than one 4400mah3S.




PS: Be sure to get one of these as well.
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__14521__HobbyKing_174_Discovery_Buzzer.html
It will make your model give off an S.O.S. when you crash in grass so it's easier to find.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on January 29, 2015, 04:18:56 AM
Coolness! And I assume when you order from Hobbyking it's being sent via regular mail or do you use EMS?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 29, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
EMS. Be prepared to pay about $20 for shipping, and 1,300php in tax. They have an option on the checkout page where you can reduce the price (i.e. put down 30% of the actual price on the invoice to reduce import taxes).

Also, try not to forget to include the miscellaneous things, like a meter of black and red 16gauge silicon wires, plastic nuts and bolts, and battery plugs. They're pretty expensive and hard to find if sourced locally.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on January 29, 2015, 10:38:31 AM
I'm going to start by looking for a cheap quad that I can practice with and then work myself up the ladder. Once I can maneuver a small quad on expert mode I'll try out the AR Drone. If there's a way to mount a GoPro on that then I would be set.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 29, 2015, 10:51:54 AM
Practicing on Micro Quads is good, but skip the AR Drone. Not only are the motors weak, it uses Wifi so you're limited to 50 feet.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: athlonFan on January 29, 2015, 02:28:04 PM
wow, it's not as expensive as I thought it would be!  I always thought that the cheapest one can get is the DJ1 phantom.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 29, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
wow, it's not as expensive as I thought it would be!  I always thought that the cheapest one can get is the DJ1 phantom.

Actually, the most expensive model you can get for an entry level brushless quad *IS* the DJI Phantom :lol:


For less than the price of a standalone Phantom (No FPV gear, no cellphone), you can have a fully working FPV quad with a groundstation that can go out to 1km *at the minimum*


Of course, you'll actually have to learn to fly it since it does not include the fancy GPS stuff. But when you fly proximity like i do, GPS is more of a hindrance since it slows down the quads reaction time significantly. Very bad if you're swerving trees and sliding corners at high speeds.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on January 30, 2015, 04:13:43 AM
I just watched your vid. Astig yung aerobatics a. I'll go take your advice and recommend to my brothers to sell the AR Drone. I'll go find myself a cheap micro quad to practice with.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 30, 2015, 11:21:51 PM
Here's another flight about a month after that last video was recorded :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ2jc8tW0sY
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 31, 2015, 04:39:16 AM



HEre's my practice flight using a cheap Hubsan X4 mini drone:
crank up your volume..haha

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fiPxd1WwhYA
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 31, 2015, 04:50:26 AM
I dont know why I haven't seen this thread before, but I got inspired by your set up and videos Hajile. I'll try to build one from the parts you posted. :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 31, 2015, 11:59:00 AM
Nice house. Just an FYI, you are not supposed to descend straight down. There's something called "Vortex Ring State" (VRS) which is you descending into your own downwash, essentially causing your blades to stall and you lose all lift even at full throttle. When going down from high altitude, we generally circle around while descending to avoid it.

If your quad starts oscillating while descending, push the stick and make it pitch forward hard to break out of the vortex asap, simply raising the throttle will only making it fall faster.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on February 01, 2015, 01:59:14 AM
Naubusan ng charge yung lipobatt, kaya pinabayaan ko nalang magcrash sa damuhan maliit lang naman, I guess I can't do that with a bigger quad haha. Thanks for the tip, still need to learn a lot how to pilot a quad, malamig pa kasi sa labas kaya Hindi makapagpractice. Lol
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on February 01, 2015, 04:48:14 AM
What Hubsan are you using? I assume that's the FPV model?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on February 01, 2015, 07:29:02 AM
Nope, its the H107C http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FPZSVYM/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1,
yung FPV model (H107D) mas mahal ng $100.
Una kong binili noon yung walang video camera, H107L.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on February 03, 2015, 08:10:42 AM
wow inggit ako gusto ko din mag ganyan. sakto malaki ang bukid sa likod ng bahay namin sarap magpalipad

will a cheap hobbyking kit do? like the fpv250 kit?  low end lang basta kaya lagyan ng fpv saka mobius camera.

ano pa pala kulang sa mga kit na ganyan? flight controller?  how about yung remote controller? wala din yata battery charger?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on February 03, 2015, 12:39:18 PM
@i2mp

So you were flying that by just looking up from the ground?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on February 03, 2015, 12:39:56 PM
If it's lipoly you can just easily buy a balancer/charger like the Bremen Haus from any hobby or Airsoft store
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 03, 2015, 05:02:38 PM
The 250 mini quads are not low end, they're high speed racers. They're advanced builds meant for experienced pilots that are used to building their own models. Their size means you already have to be good with soldering and making your own cables, as well as programming them properly to keep them from oscillating when the motors are pushed.

Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's meant for advanced pilots, you're paying extra for the A.I. that will do the flying for you.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on February 04, 2015, 09:16:41 AM
@i2mp

So you were flying that by just looking up from the ground?
Yup, nakatingala lang ako haha
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on February 04, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
If it's lipoly you can just easily buy a balancer/charger like the Bremen Haus from any hobby or Airsoft store
what does it do?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on February 04, 2015, 10:29:18 AM
It's a smart charger that makes sure all of the cells of the lipoly are balanced. If one dips too low then it bloats leading to battery death
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on February 05, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
are we not allowed to buy batteries online anymore?  parang meron ako nabasa na pag lipo/lion batteries hindi yata pwede sa ordinary mail?

parang tutoo kasi last year bumili ako 3 cellphone batteries isa lang dumating. yung isang yun ang ginamit eh "Swiss Post" pero galing sya sa china.

so if we build our own quads, local stores lang makakabili ng lipo batts?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on February 05, 2015, 04:04:12 PM
Local stores get it from China as well. It's true. A friend had a bunch of lipoly batteries held by customs. I'm not sure if it's legal for them to do so but that's the reality.

For airsoft at least, I find the locally available lipoly brands to be adequate enough.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 05, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
I buy batteries locally. The local 'Tiger' brand batteries go for 750php each per 2200mah3S pack. Not as cheap as online (about 500php), but parcel service and customs tax will cost you another 3000-4000php. You'll need to buy a ton of batteries in one order to make up for that, and there's an mah limit on how many you can put in one parcel. Really not worth it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 08, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
Flight from today B)

[youtube]8HPHYEf-Fg8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on February 10, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
I still need to buy a nano quad, hehe. Just need to stop spending on the car to have enough funds.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on February 11, 2015, 08:56:54 AM
speaking of nanos

gearbest and bangood have promos on the cheerson cx10/cx10a mga 700-800 pesoses lang free shipping pa. kaso sabayan natin ng dasal na dumating hehehe. google mo na lang ang coupon codes for the discounts.

yung syma x12 meron din sa gearbest.



Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 11, 2015, 11:04:58 AM
Useful lesson on VRS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCret4rv0HE
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 14, 2015, 05:46:43 PM
Todays flight


Gimbal test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[/size]dfOfuS2Wykc


FPV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[/size]mGH9ZB8g3oc
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 21, 2015, 08:54:33 PM

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a7588214-246-t.jpg)

Test flight with gimbal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TQMJE3-0Rk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TQMJE3-0Rk)


Also brought along my 450 flamewheel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ok5GoTOfU
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on March 08, 2015, 09:21:47 PM
got my cheerson cx10 yesterday. buti na lang bumili ako ng prop guard. kailangan sa beginners hehehe

ang saya! just bought another one for the kids (kunwari lang sa kanila)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on March 14, 2015, 08:17:00 PM
Went to a different flying site today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsS8KecRiz4
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on March 23, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
^ inggit ako sa piloting skills mo.

getting the hang of flying my nano cx10. I can do funnels na din.

kaso sira pa din ako sa banked turns. saka madali ako wala sa orientation pag umikot na siya. yan usually dahilan ng crashes. any tips?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on March 23, 2015, 05:58:40 PM
Hanap ka ng medyo malaking lugar (like a basketball court) at mag figure 8's. Buong battery, araw araw, puro ka lang figure 8's. Bale bank left, bank right, bank left, etc. Paulit ulit, medyo malilito ka sa simula pero eventually sa dami ng repetitions, makakapag bank ka na ng hindi nagiisip.

Pag nag nose in habang nag fifigure eights, pwede ka pa rin malito, pero magkaka confidence ka na pag tinuloy mo lang yung stick movements, iikot din sya eventually back to tail in at pwede ka mag apply ng corrections bago ulit umikot.


BTW, ayaw na mag embed ng youtube?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 23, 2015, 11:15:39 AM
Boat chasing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkxKpmRAFT4
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on April 26, 2015, 09:09:38 AM
galing! nakakatakot ang layo na ah.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on April 27, 2015, 04:51:25 AM
So that's a plane, right?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 27, 2015, 01:30:02 PM
Yeah, it's a Bixler 2. Great if you want to go really high, really far. You can do the same with a multirotor but the energy is mostly wasted and more risky.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on April 27, 2015, 05:41:48 PM
Hey, what are your thoughts on the TY923 quadcopter? There's one listed in OLX that has a camera mount custom fitted to it and the seller says he uses an SJ5000 camera with wifi with it to make it FPV. I'm thinking if I can fit a small FPV camera on it and make it into a cheap GoPro machine?

My current use would be more for aerial shots for our airsoft games so nothing as major as what you do with your Bixler.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 28, 2015, 12:27:43 AM
I tried looking it up, and if the specs on the site i found are right, it runs on 2S 1500mah. That's not a lot. Did the guy mention his flight time *with* the camera?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on April 28, 2015, 10:40:59 AM
He didn't. I can ask. Can I just use a lipo from one of our airsoft guns? Hahaha
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 28, 2015, 05:46:13 PM
Might be too heavy, and i wouldn't trust the range since yung range ng wifi ay pareho lang ng wifi router mo.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 07, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8sLsuKhVBw

Replacement parts for bronto arrived and i thought i'd throw together something to try. Unfortunately, i've had a headache for the last several days so i can't install and program the 433 radio so the stock pistol radio will have to do.

I don't know what frequency the stock antennas are tuned for so i first tried channel C (1360mhz) which was pretty good, then channel 4 (1080) really bad, i went for the middle ground, channel 7 (1200), which pretty much lost control the moment i pulled the throttle (ouch!).

02:35 is probably the worst location. It's inside a concrete bench, on the other side of a concrete wall, and the bench is surrounded by elevated tiles (You can tell i pretty much fell in after i jumped out of the basketball area). 1360 is pretty clear. But i seem to have issues with reflections while moving, i'll have to look into that.

The Bronto's going back in storage until i get around to installing the 433. Now i need to lay down, this headache is killing me. If you guys want to help continue this project, how about suggesting some headache remedies. When the headache wears off, i'm so tired i just fall over, and then the cycle repeats the next day.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on May 13, 2015, 03:22:27 PM
@Hajile

Kumusta na headaches mo?  baka migraine?

BTT: nakakainggit din yan RC Car ah. pero quadcopter mode muna ako hehe.

from your experience, anong shipping method ang mababa probability na mayari ng customs?  Balak ko na kasi umorder ng ARF 250 kit sa bangood. ang options registered air, EMS, saka expedited.  Ano ba ang pros/cons? Okay lang maghintay kahit 1 month basta wag masyado malaki customs charge

Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 13, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
Parang random eh. Yung sa banggood at aliexpress parang mas nakakalusot, pero on the other hand, madami akong individual orders since free shipping so kahit maipit ang isa, lusot pa rin yung iba. Yung hobbyking kasi usually madami sa isang order so malaki ang kahon, yun ata tinitingnan. Yung free shipping kasi mga packets lang.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on May 13, 2015, 05:14:56 PM
Baka high blood pressure yung headaches mo ha. Ingat
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: WallyWest on May 13, 2015, 11:00:32 PM
Saw Syma X11 quadcopters on flash sale at Lazada (2.9k). Are these any good for newbies to practice on?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 14, 2015, 12:12:49 AM
Yes, any micro drone is good for practice. They handle close enough that you can fly a big one once you've mastered it. The thing you're looking for is less power and less mass, so if you hit something, it will just bounce off.

I really should have taken a picture of my wrist when i got careless last month. Atleast eight overlapping slices from the props, i now know first hand the difference between a cut, and a laceration.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: splerdu on May 14, 2015, 03:50:53 AM
https://youtu.be/4vGcH0Bk3hg

Awesomesauce drone doesn't need any piloting skills. Just carry the control somewhere on your person and it autonomously flies, follows and films the holder.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 15, 2015, 02:11:46 PM
Came across someone selling a damaged, heavy lift plane. I managed to get it and i'm in the process of making it airworthy again :)

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a7869454-243-IMG_20150503_142755.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on May 15, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
Coolness!

Dude, any chance you can meet bring you to a race track and we can do some cool aerial vids?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 15, 2015, 04:44:29 PM
I'm game. I'm not sure what equipment i'll be able to bring, but if we can do it more than once, we'll have different chances of bringing something. Maybe i'll even be able to bring the hex and we'll have a two man crew :)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on May 15, 2015, 05:03:37 PM
Cool! I'll talk to Bryan about it for the next time we hit the track. I just need to get my car fully sorted first.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 15, 2015, 05:48:55 PM
K. I'll start tuning my quad. I hadn't calibrated it since i flew over the beach. I'll PM my facebook page so we can chat. I've always wanted to do a car chase.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 20, 2015, 07:44:22 PM
Car's LRS gear is working, now i just need to find a way to improve the signal reception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGCRDOG_vC4
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on June 01, 2015, 10:14:18 AM
Maiden of the biggest plane i have in my 'drone' fleet :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/11393407_10153339607438749_812397501500795679_o.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0wYcr4c6_Q
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on June 01, 2015, 05:34:51 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on June 07, 2015, 02:16:56 AM
One of todays flights  B)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCo2Jn7Pk08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCo2Jn7Pk08)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on June 07, 2015, 11:28:31 PM
Impressive range on your drone. Tsaka talagang gamay mo na yung paglipad
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on June 07, 2015, 11:32:38 PM
Ranger is pretty sturdy. No damage after it flipped?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on June 08, 2015, 12:57:53 AM
No damage sa flip, sumubsob lang yung nguso pero di naman sumabit sa lupa yung pakpak.

Pero meron damage dun sa first try kong mag takeoff (5:57 ng Ranger video, sumabit yung tail sa rebar) kaya ako nag whoops. Naayos ko na pero bibili pa ako ng carbon fiber rods para ma mapatibay pa lalo bago ko i assemble ulit.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: splerdu on June 21, 2015, 02:23:02 AM
NASA's awesome 10-engine transformer drone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NvKwgfjiS4
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on June 22, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
Hobby version. This is actually a rather popular design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOJ8TWYUedA
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: i2mp on July 07, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
wana try this on New Year's eve?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9KZ3jgbbmI
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 08, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
No. It's over the water so it should be okay to fly through, but to do that i'll need a multirotor with a body shell to keep shrapnel from hitting the electronics.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on July 08, 2015, 03:18:43 PM
Dude, once my car's transmission is sorted out Bryan and I are thinking of hitting the track in Clark. Sama ka ha.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 08, 2015, 03:41:27 PM
Sure. Bigay ka ng date. Mukha nga lang sunod sunod yung bagyo so hopefully not soon.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on July 08, 2015, 04:11:19 PM
Yup, I agree. Hard to fly in this weather. More dangerous to race, too.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 10, 2015, 04:17:30 PM
Ordered a couple of micro quads about 2 months ago. got a tracking number but it seems to be stuck. What does this mean:

Code: [Select]
Date/Time         Location         Tracking event
6/16/2015 2:23 PM PHILIPPINES The item is now at customs abroad for determination of any customs duty payable.

saan kaya ako puwede magtanong?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on July 10, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
Did you use EMS? Usually you should get a letter from the office.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 10, 2015, 05:06:27 PM
Call this

Philpost Tel# 854-3580
local 1706-1710

Yun nga lang laging busy, dial ka lang hanggang nay sumagot.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 13, 2015, 02:57:30 PM
wala pa nga yung postal notice eh. usually kasi less than 1 month nakukuha ko na.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 14, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
Sarap palipad :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfd1LwLLmRU
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 27, 2015, 08:37:35 AM
Bad trip umulan, di man lang ako naka isang full flight ???

(https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/11728960_10153487500798749_711782922878639587_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on July 27, 2015, 11:13:37 AM
Mukhang morning dapat dude. Astig a naka burst yung camera?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 27, 2015, 11:46:27 AM
Naka tripod yung Mobius camera ko at iniwan ko lang mag record in video mode. Windows media player classic yung gamit ko pang play at meron syang button na naga-advance ng 1 frame. 5 clicks, save image, 5 clicks, save image, etc. Tapos dinaan ko na lang sa photoshop.  B)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 29, 2015, 02:53:51 PM
@hajile thanks for the philpost number sa taas. finally got my quad. got taxed 433 + 100 postal handling for a 1270 pesos parcel. bwisit. hahaha
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on July 29, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
jojitb, what quad did you get?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 29, 2015, 08:57:03 PM
Louie, I have several toy quads

Nano:
CX-10 (love this) & CX-10a,
(http://img.banggood.com/thumb/gallery/upload/2014/09/SKU13844512.jpg)

Micro:
jj-1000
(http://gloimg.gearbest.com/gb/2015/201503/goods-img/1427394895779-P-2509375.jpg)

the ones that I just rescued from the customs hostage takers are a couple of H8-minis
(http://img.banggood.com/thumb/view/upload/2015/04/SKU232164-004.jpg)
http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-H8-Mini-Headless-Mode-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-975808.html (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-H8-Mini-Headless-Mode-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-975808.html)

in a couple of months i'll be ready to build my first racer and after that a 350/450 camera platform. One tip when ordering from banggood, if possible get it shipped only via regular mail or regular mail with tracking. kapag air parcel or EMS sure paktay ka sa customs hahah
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on August 19, 2015, 02:28:33 PM
Head tracking!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOIb6kfUcI

Now i gotta figure out how to wire this into the plane.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on September 16, 2015, 01:45:46 PM
Testing new camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ny7J5HXx9Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ny7J5HXx9Q)

Kelangan na lang straps para ma kabit sa quad  :silly:
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: lahar on October 09, 2015, 06:29:09 AM
Testing autonomous drones for near-real-time visual observation of Taal.

(https://z-1-scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12074839_10153663669102486_8572161586501233898_n.jpg?oh=76ac59145170e0422ca46acdb3042ead&oe=56958256)

(https://z-1-scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12106825_10153663669552486_9075445627120314114_n.jpg?oh=e723ad8abd3238abf36229112b03fa5c&oe=5697644D)

(https://z-1-scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12105974_10153663669597486_1074308417411567104_n.jpg?oh=03996203a9e210c822b7cbf1ab129b1f&oe=5688ED1F)

Sadly the first (of three drones) didn't come back, probably crashed due to a mistake in the initial altitude input. Well if they can find it, someone on the island has a new GoPro.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: reel on October 09, 2015, 11:32:55 PM
Easter GoPro Hunt!
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: lahar on October 10, 2015, 06:21:49 AM
Easter GoPro Hunt!

According to the last telemetry and GPS data, it went down somewhere in the southeast crater lake. Assuming it didn't sink immediately, someone can recover it.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on October 10, 2015, 10:46:03 AM
Sayang, perfect chance sana yan para mag search and rescue gamit yung plane. Perfect yung quad since downward facing yung camera habang forward flight at merong ability na mag hover. Styro din sya so malamang madaling makita yung white outline.

Meron ka ba nalagay na markings? Like a phone number?
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: lahar on October 10, 2015, 11:02:57 AM
We already lost a quad a few months ago. We shifted to fixed wings because its more efficient and cost effective. We can launch a fixie from the mainland after programming the waypoints and it will fly and come back autonomously since the remote only has a 5km range.

The drone has markings and a number,but this is the Philippines after all. Pero there's also the possibility it hit treetops or a cliff face. They used Googlemap to program the flight and theres a huge offset.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: splerdu on October 18, 2015, 04:51:32 AM
Can we post other non-flying RCs in this thread? As a Tamiya fan I'm loving Matteo's RC Channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_bEqlg-1VE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_bEqlg-1VE)
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Louie on January 07, 2016, 03:01:50 PM
We can rename it to the RC thread. It started with helicopters, after all.

I've been trying to work with our ARDrone again since it's a shame to just leave it stored. My problem with it right now is that it suddenly reports signal lost although I'm just a few feet away from it. Thinking of fiddling with the wireless antenna but will probably try to change out the Lipoly as well.
Title: Re: Perpetual Drone Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 07, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
Sure. It's all loosely on the same tech anyway.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 28, 2016, 03:55:02 AM
Drone racing!

(http://i.imgur.com/anL4UJN.gif)

https://www.facebook.com/quartznews/videos/1098586363508398
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 28, 2016, 05:09:28 AM
I've seen it. I don't get how he's able to maintain a signal. That's a lot of concrete.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: splerdu on January 29, 2016, 04:54:29 AM
Looks like FPV flyers use heavily beefed up radios. This picture from an Ars article on FPV drone racing (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/first-person-drone-racing-is-much-harder-than-i-expected/):

(http://i.imgur.com/WdSN5kh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7G6YGGj.jpg)

Edit: Found his receiver (http://www.hobbyrc.co.uk/frsky-d4r-ii-4ch-24ghz-accst-receiver-wtelemetry). Probably only used as a starting point, with lots of mods done after purchase.

Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MBW8zoZUR4). Like you mentioned, lots of walls made of brick and concrete.

Anyone remember Descent? I was pretty good at it way back then!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 29, 2016, 11:01:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62TKatk3IGI

He was flying through buildings with a 2.4 and a 5.8, that's impressive.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 17, 2016, 10:25:10 AM
Compilation of flights this year so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQ8ITP5f7I

Excuse the poor editing, i need to better plan the next one.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on February 25, 2016, 09:06:30 PM
Flight video for todays flight. Akala ko lulusot, sumabit yung likod :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWiB2SfL_2w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWiB2SfL_2w)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on March 25, 2016, 09:27:40 AM
Yesterdays flight. It's just the fourth flight of the mini quad. Ang hirap ng isa lang ang battery ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQenP7PTue0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQenP7PTue0)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 24, 2016, 11:19:14 AM
Beach Trip :happy:



(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/13064465_10154128539333749_112515526675195945_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/13072676_10154128539383749_5733946514332666304_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/13072710_10154128539558749_4860684400159835420_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/13055197_10154128539868749_3552836800583328679_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/13055091_10154128540598749_6276836351339506982_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/13063236_10154128541238749_860444516354418380_o.jpg)
(https://scontent.fceb2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13041246_10154128541888749_4403201006291972596_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 24, 2016, 03:04:55 PM
Nice! Beach vacations are so much better with a drone. Ganda ng pictures!

A friend gets to go on those nice yachts and he'd be on the top deck flying his drone all the time. I'll ask permission to repost some of his photos.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 24, 2016, 03:08:54 PM
Actually depende sa beach. Eto yung sand dyan.

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a8920651-153-t.jpg)

Volcanic sand ata. Pag pumasok sa motor, didikit sa magnets, kinailangan ko kalasin ng motors ng hex para malinis ng cotton buds. >:(
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: splerdu on April 24, 2016, 03:10:51 PM
Iron sand?
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: lahar on April 24, 2016, 03:52:55 PM
Actually depende sa beach. Eto yung sand dyan.

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a8920651-153-t.jpg)

Volcanic sand ata. Pag pumasok sa motor, didikit sa magnets, kinailangan ko kalasin ng motors ng hex para malinis ng cotton buds. >:(
Thats magnetite, yeah a type of iron bearing mineral.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 24, 2016, 04:11:58 PM
So it really is iron? I thought they'd have turned to iron oxide and turned the beach red.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: lahar on April 24, 2016, 05:14:52 PM
So it really is iron? I thought they'd have turned to iron oxide and turned the beach red.
Its already an oxide so minimal na ang reaction niya. It does still react to form hematite (another iron bearing mineral) commonly colored red. Magnetite is black to dark brown.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: jeffreyhing on May 11, 2016, 04:19:53 AM
may thread pala dito sa ppc. ang tagal ko ng inde nakaka login dito kaya backread muna.

@hajile
ikaw rin yun hajile sa tpc lol :)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 12, 2016, 09:36:51 AM
may thread pala dito sa ppc. ang tagal ko ng inde nakaka login dito kaya backread muna.

@hajile
ikaw rin yun hajile sa tpc lol :)

I'm also the Hajile from facebook, the Hajile from RCGroups, the HAjile from RCTech, Hajile from hobbyking, Hajile from Steam, etc. I use Hajile Ibushi more than my real name and its kinda weird being called anything else outside of my family  ???
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 29, 2016, 10:39:31 PM
Di na nakatiis, nagpalipad din kahit isa lang ang battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10LkZMsrucY
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 20, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
New micro build  :happy:
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9178928-112-t1.jpg)(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9178927-201-t0.jpg)(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9178929-214-t2.jpg)[/size]
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 21, 2016, 03:19:05 PM
Video Build Log B)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLthUOH_fcJ8ESaDpUApa9c23Amz2LYcAG


Gawa na rin kayo :happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 21, 2016, 09:56:15 PM
@Hajile

partslist w/ source and price?
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on July 22, 2016, 01:30:40 AM
I think this is all of them

Flight Controller
http://www.banggood.com/Micro-Scisky-32bits-Brushed-Flight-Control-Board-Based-On-Naze-32-For-Quadcopters-p-1002341.html (http://www.banggood.com/Micro-Scisky-32bits-Brushed-Flight-Control-Board-Based-On-Naze-32-For-Quadcopters-p-1002341.html)

Camera
http://www.banggood.com/600TVL-14-CMOS-2_8mm-90-Degree-FPV-Camera-PALNTSC-3_7-5V-p-1050485.html (http://www.banggood.com/600TVL-14-CMOS-2_8mm-90-Degree-FPV-Camera-PALNTSC-3_7-5V-p-1050485.html)

5.8ghz 200mw vtx. Recommend ko tumingin ka ng iba kung di mo kaya yung ginawa ko sa Part 2 video.
http://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-200mW-32CH-Wireless-Audio-Video-AV-Transmitter-Module-FX758-2-p-980317.html (http://www.banggood.com/FPV-5_8G-200mW-32CH-Wireless-Audio-Video-AV-Transmitter-Module-FX758-2-p-980317.html)

Motors. 8 propellers ang kasama. Eto ata ang pinaka malaking micro propeller na nakita ko, di ko sure kun okay ba talaga ganito kalaki, ang init ng motor eh.
http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-75mm-Blade-Propeller-Prop-8Pcs-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-4Pcs-for-DIY-Micro-Quadcopter-Frame-p-1053859.html (http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-75mm-Blade-Propeller-Prop-8Pcs-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-4Pcs-for-DIY-Micro-Quadcopter-Frame-p-1053859.html)

120 frame
http://www.banggood.com/120mm-Carbon-Fiber-DIY-Micro-Mini-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Kit-2mm-Thickness-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-p-1055214.html (http://www.banggood.com/120mm-Carbon-Fiber-DIY-Micro-Mini-FPV-Quadcopter-Frame-Kit-2mm-Thickness-8_5x20mm-Coreless-Motor-p-1055214.html)

DC-DC Booster. Para yung 1S battery maging 5v para sa FPV gear. I think meron ding 5v regulator sa banggood. Baka mas maganda yun na lang ang kunin mo para sabay sabay na.
https://www.olx.ph/item/dc-dc-step-up-converter-booster-2a-power-supplymmodule-ID6ZfvF.html?p=1&h=e7f384c754#e7f384c754 (https://www.olx.ph/item/dc-dc-step-up-converter-booster-2a-power-supplymmodule-ID6ZfvF.html?p=1&h=e7f384c754#e7f384c754)



(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9178930-174-t3.jpg)
Screenshot ng ginawa ko sa part 2. 32 channel yung vTX, pero 3 switches lang ang meron. So 8 channels lang ang pwede ma access sa labas. Walang syang region selector so Fatshark frequencies sya by default. Kinailangan ko buksan yung module para maging Group E since yun yung gamit ng groundstation ko.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: jojitb on July 22, 2016, 03:17:55 PM
thanks for the list.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on September 22, 2016, 12:35:29 AM
One of the last flights before one of the motors of the micro build finally burned out. 6 Batteries a day, every day, while carrying FPV gear may have been too much.  :lol:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wrNHVSKU4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wrNHVSKU4Y)


Gonna have to wait for the next set of motors i ordered to arrive  B)


(https://scontent.fmnl4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q82/s480x480/14358713_10154523093623749_7647454249203493646_n.jpg?oh=22084f75f254653e834a8de7dbd946d0&oe=587590DB)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: WallyWest on October 23, 2016, 08:58:47 PM
Is this any good? For playing around lang with me and my boys. Total noob. Only flying I've done is with a tiny "dream machine" toy chopper that I hover around inside our bedroom.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161023/4af2a4f7b0a5257e7fadff559f0b0623.jpg)

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on October 25, 2016, 05:20:39 PM
If you just want a basic quad to fly around, any quad is good enough.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: WallyWest on October 25, 2016, 08:25:46 PM
^
Thanks. Parang mas gusto ko yung mga micro...

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on October 27, 2016, 10:49:54 AM
^based on the many reviews i've read the X5C-1 is "the" bang-for-the buck quadcopter. i'm getting one. lol!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on October 30, 2016, 08:33:02 PM
Managed to fly this weekend! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhs_uwfrGXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhs_uwfrGXA)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on October 31, 2016, 09:00:06 PM
Ok I almost ordered the  X5C-1 it's a good thing I saw a newer model that has altitude and headless mode for just about 600 pesos more so after watching numerous youtube videos and reviews read I ordered my first Quadcopter the SYMA X5UC:

(http://www.quadcopterpatrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/syma-x5uc-top.jpg)Product page = http://www.symatoys.com/goodshow/x5uc-smya-x5uc-hd-camera.html (http://www.symatoys.com/goodshow/x5uc-smya-x5uc-hd-camera.html)

 >:D
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on October 31, 2016, 11:12:28 PM
Managed to fly this weekend! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhs_uwfrGXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhs_uwfrGXA)

Kainggit area mo dami open area
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 01, 2016, 09:21:04 PM
Kaso naninita gwardya pag napag tripan ka  ???

Anyway, nakalipad ako kanina nung pumunta kaming sementeryo. Naglakad ako ng 5km para makapaghanap at magpaalam ng flying sites  Tapos nilakad ko ulit dala yung FPV gear  B)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJ0cSdBKNU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaJ0cSdBKNU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnYbbP5Mss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnYbbP5Mss)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 01, 2016, 10:21:34 PM
^ Great flying! How long does it take to learn to fly like that and how much does that setup cost excluding the action cam? I'm a quad virgin and my incoming SYMA X5UC will be my first. Hahaha!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 02, 2016, 06:36:12 PM
It took me five months to learn how to fly a helicopter. Quads are pretty easy tho so it should be shorter. Maybe two or three. Helicopters have been around for a long time so there's already a system on how to learn without destroying an expensive model and it's pretty simple. But you need to do hours and hours of repetition to learn it. You're not memorizing the moves with your brain, you're imprinting it into your muscle memory so, just like real pilots, you have to pile on the flight hours.

Price, about 25k. 10-12k for the quad and a good radio. The FPV can be bought a few months later while you're still learning. You don't want expensive video gear on the model while you're still in the crashing phase.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 02, 2016, 07:23:50 PM
^ Thanks, I hope that I will be contented with just the beginners (cheap) models. Hahaha!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 03, 2016, 08:07:53 PM
Kahit sementeryo, lipad pa rin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_3V6qhHvzY
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 06, 2016, 03:00:33 PM

MY quad collection, been practicing for a year now, planning to buy the DJI Mavic Pro when its available.

(http://i.imgur.com/WAoWG3E.jpg)



Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 06, 2016, 03:05:16 PM
^ Thanks, I hope that I will be contented with just the beginners (cheap) models. Hahaha!
nope you won't. kapag nasanay ka na you'll get bored and you'll want to try something better... parang PC, you can scratch the itch but it will come back. lol
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 07, 2016, 02:01:58 PM
The SO bought a Syma quad as well. She's still trying to learn the ropes.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 07, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
Nothing to it, you just do nothing but hover as often as you can. Ipakabit mo yung charger sa USB ng desktop nya, tapos every half hour ilipad nya dyan mismo sa tabi ng desk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE1wQ9eaJuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE1wQ9eaJuY)

Ganyan lang, tail in palutang lutang. Every half hour, for three months.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 09, 2016, 03:08:45 AM
After a few days and a million crashes I seem to start getting the hang of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up5bp8n-jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up5bp8n-jpg)

I've tried to fly outdoors a few times but the wind is always blowing it away and i tend to panic. Hahaha!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: WallyWest on November 09, 2016, 09:58:32 AM
How heavy or big should a drone be to be resistant to wind turbulence?

I fly a tiny helicopter and when I fly too close to the floor, the wind from its own blades are enough to make it go all wobbly.

Tapatalked

Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 10, 2016, 10:50:19 AM
@theDUD3
It's a start. Just keep it tail in and rotate it left and right a few degrees at a time to get you used to orientation. Once you're good enough to pick a spot in the air and hold it there, you can start the walking exercise. Just walk around your house going from room to room with you right behind it. You need to get a drink? Fly it in front of you as you go to the kitchen and back.

At first you sort of just hover it in place a few feet in front of you, then you walk towards it, move it a few feet further, walk to it. Eventually you'll be able to make it move at the same speed as you walk.

But be sure to do the hover exercise first, you have to make your muscle memory learn how to make it go and stay at exactly the place you want if you want it to go through a narrow door.


And there's also the clock exercise, you just stay in a hover, and rotate the quad to 1 o'clock and hover there, then several batteries later (or days) when you're comfortable, you start hovering at 2 o'clock. Maybe alternate between 10 and 2. Until you're able to hover in all the positions. If you start losing it, don't go 'shit shit shit!', just snap the rudder back to tail in asap.

@WallyWest
Depends on how much control you have. If the tiny helicopter you're referring to is the coaxial type, then you really don't have much control since it has no ailerons and it tends to be floaty.

The micro in the pic i posted above can handle some wind. My daily flying while i was learning go me used to wind so i'm used to compensating for it. If i feel a strong gust coming in, i bring it back and hover in front of me to ride it out.




BTW. Dalawang daliri ang gamit ko paghawak ng sticks.


(https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=8900071)


I can move more steadily and in smaller increments with two fingers than just thumbs. Hindi sya toy car.




And this still applies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-FlC6KLBiQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-FlC6KLBiQ)


Practice x infinity

 >:D
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 11, 2016, 02:43:37 PM
my Syma only came with 500mAh, I bought 5 pcs of 1200mAh batts... will see if see it doubles the flight time :)


(http://i.imgur.com/7xJwUnv.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 11, 2016, 04:11:28 PM
Wow ambigat nyan. Try mo kung gaano katagal nga ang flight time, pero mararamdaman mo yung difference sa handling.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 11, 2016, 05:54:37 PM
Wow ambigat nyan. Try mo kung gaano katagal nga ang flight time, pero mararamdaman mo yung difference sa handling.
mabigat nga, halos doble ng weight nung 500 mAh. Medyo ok pa rin sa handling, ewan ko lang kung ok pa rin kapag nasa labas na. Di ko pa ma-test flight time, gabi na, masyado ma-ingay yung Syma, baka magising mga tao lol.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 11, 2016, 05:55:26 PM
just saw this on FB, DJI Phantom lang yung gamit nung nagpost pero kailangan na pala nito diyan sa Pinas?


(http://i.imgur.com/e4aZwu2.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 12, 2016, 01:20:07 AM
Dagdag kaperahan
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 12, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
Wow ambigat nyan. Try mo kung gaano katagal nga ang flight time, pero mararamdaman mo yung difference sa handling.
13-14 minutes lang yung 1200mAh, yung 500mAh 8-9minutes. Wala pang video yun.  5 minutes lang nadagdag.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 13, 2016, 01:11:56 AM
Wow ambigat nyan. Try mo kung gaano katagal nga ang flight time, pero mararamdaman mo yung difference sa handling.
13-14 minutes lang yung 1200mAh, yung 500mAh 8-9minutes. Wala pang video yun.  5 minutes lang nadagdag.

Deminishing returns. Atleast may nadagdag pa. Mas lalala yan pag nagpapalipad ka na ng malaking quad at nafafactor na yung C rating. Bumili ako ng 5800mah 3S na battery, pero pareho lang ang flight time nya sa 4400mah 3S ???
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: splerdu on November 13, 2016, 01:36:21 AM
^ added weight = increased power draw = same flight time?
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 13, 2016, 01:55:51 AM
Yep. Baka ma offset sya pag bumili ako ng battery na may mas mataas na C rating kaso mahal na yun.

Kung gusto ko ng mas efficient, kelangan ko magpalit to low kv motors, 4S batteries at low pitch propellers.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 13, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
Got in a few flight this weekend :happy:

Flew through a graveyard with an action cam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_qARCacU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_qARCacU4)

Showed a few beginners how to fly an FPV plane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-y7XmZxZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-y7XmZxZI)

And had fun with a racer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-vdiwBvvqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-vdiwBvvqE)




Time na kaya lagyan ko ng music yung mga videos ko? Wala akong source ng free music na bagay eh.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 14, 2016, 05:10:46 PM
Tried flying the Syma quad and the littlest wind takes it away lol. Need to practice controls as well. Still need the muscle memory. I might buy a nano quad for practicing so that it's easier to use indoors.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 15, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Thanks for the tips Hajile.

Louie I beat you to it, I thought it would be a breeze to practice with a Nano but it's still damn hard. Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 15, 2016, 11:35:23 AM
Where did you buy one? Thinking of going to Lowdog tomorrow since I'm being sent off to our Ortigas office. I'd rather crash the Nano indoors than lose the larger Syma to a neighbor's roof! Hahahaha.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 15, 2016, 12:20:46 PM
^ I got the Cheerson CX-10 from Lazada for 850 Pesos, delivered in 3 days.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/johnmikhail/20161115_000458%20Large_zpslqxwkfhq.jpg)

Very stable nano. I now can practice indoors but I still having a hard time with perspective, my left, right, forward and back is totally messed up when the quad is facing me or facing sideways.

 >:D
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 15, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
Yeah, saksak lang sa USB tapos lipad every half hour. Flight hours ang binibilang ng muscle memory hindi memorization :silly:
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 15, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Uy thanks for the tip! I'll look for that specifically!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on November 15, 2016, 06:19:59 PM
^ Try to get one from local sellers for fast delivery, sellers from abroad usually takes a month - I also ordered a Syma X11 Mini more than a week ago but I couldn't wait for it hence the CX-10. Lol!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on November 19, 2016, 03:54:46 PM
Bought my first hexadrone... walang kuwenta... lol

(http://i.imgur.com/393S7ED.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 19, 2016, 11:54:09 PM
Naulanan nung nagpalipad ako sa may bilibid. Worth it :happy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yoEV6eM-Fw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yoEV6eM-Fw)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: jojitb on November 21, 2016, 08:37:30 PM
^ I got the Cheerson CX-10 from Lazada for 850 Pesos, delivered in 3 days.

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/johnmikhail/20161115_000458%20Large_zpslqxwkfhq.jpg)

Very stable nano. I now can practice indoors but I still having a hard time with perspective, my left, right, forward and back is totally messed up when the quad is facing me or facing sideways.

 >:D

get a bunch of spare props and maybe a protector (banggood kaso 1 month). lalo na pag nasa learning curve ka pa. once you can get it running figure 8's inside your room you'll be mighty proud of yourself hahaha
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 22, 2016, 12:21:18 PM
May nakita ako sa Toys R Us na Nano quad na may wifi capability. Okay ba yun? Nasa 3k yata. Pwede kasi namin gamitin sa mga CQB scenario namin sa airsoft hahaha
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 22, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
May nakita ako sa Toys R Us na Nano quad na may wifi capability. Okay ba yun? Nasa 3k yata. Pwede kasi namin gamitin sa mga CQB scenario namin sa airsoft hahaha

That would be like streaming youtube from a low power portable wifi that doesn't have an external antenna. Would it be too much to expect to be able to stream from the other side of the house?

Also the lag from wifi is kinda notorious, you'd likely still see the wall coming but your quad's already crashed.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on November 22, 2016, 03:59:21 PM
Hahaha okay. So I guess just go for a CX-10 to learn how to fly and just get a larger one with proper FPV
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 22, 2016, 07:57:49 PM
Then get one of these :silly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djpyT6cpRZ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djpyT6cpRZ0)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PbQpAbwL6I
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: jojitb on November 23, 2016, 10:23:59 AM
mas madali matuto sa micro quad kesa nano. twitchy kasi mga nano quad. mas magaan nga lang sa bulsa hehe
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on November 30, 2016, 11:00:21 AM
Akala ko di ako makakalipad last week dahil sa ulan, pero nakaraos din B)

Full Throttle Flight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiuQT0pUWSg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiuQT0pUWSg)

Half Throttle Flight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfukTQ2qfKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfukTQ2qfKE)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on December 04, 2016, 07:08:21 AM
Just got my Mavic Pro last night...  still trying to learn its features...



(http://i.imgur.com/ji3MUoR.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on December 05, 2016, 06:54:23 AM
This DJI Mavic Pro is amazing. Its dummy proof, with vision sensors infront and bottom to avoid obstacles, range of upto 7km from the pilot and camera capabilities comparable with the Phantom 4 but in a much smaller foldable form factor.




(http://i.imgur.com/VzRcWRo.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/ol6CD9a.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/yT2kU5B.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/9PmiaWv.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/a4Rzvmt.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: barurutor on December 05, 2016, 08:24:47 AM
thing looks menacing, I can see why some people would shoot drones out of the air if they looked like that.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on December 07, 2016, 08:20:16 AM
drone selfie:

(http://i.imgur.com/4CE2lDr.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on December 07, 2016, 11:01:38 AM
Astig
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on December 07, 2016, 02:42:43 PM


(http://i.imgur.com/sNt5eMT.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/m3O713a.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on December 12, 2016, 01:46:40 AM
Saya this weekend ah!


Flying site malapit sa bilibid B)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OIgdBBM0qu4/2.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIgdBBM0qu4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIgdBBM0qu4)

Merong off road event this weekend malapit sa amin. Pinayagan ako magpalipad :silly:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bFsXzdF-2zQ/2.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFsXzdF-2zQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFsXzdF-2zQ)

Full run sa both sides ng offroad track :)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dj5a1_2FZZ0/2.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj5a1_2FZZ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj5a1_2FZZ0)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on December 18, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
Finally got the chance to fly over the ocean.


(http://i.imgur.com/lPzkwy2.jpg)




(http://i.imgur.com/05xKx2f.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/D0SDLi0.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/aciGBai.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/v8xMiBR.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/jEVZ20k.jpg)







Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: splerdu on December 18, 2016, 03:05:41 PM
Sweet shots! And that looks like some serious altitude!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on December 18, 2016, 03:27:42 PM
Sweet shots! And that looks like some serious altitude!

Thanks! around 300ft lang yan, natakot na ko tumaas hehe. Maximum allowable altitude dito is 400ft lang pero kaya ng drone hanggang 500meters altitude (1640 ft) saka 4miles range.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 06, 2017, 01:24:56 PM
Taken during Christmas day at SF:


(http://i.imgur.com/dklLhAH.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/jPDuKGC.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/9w8iO9h.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/MZ7eLcY.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/dKuqAcR.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/XeOc2d3.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 06, 2017, 01:33:41 PM
First time flying in a ravine :) 


(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9662576-42-YDXJ0309.mp4_snapshot_05.52_%5B2017.01.06_13.37.14%5D.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1hbxQ-J8Y0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1hbxQ-J8Y0)


Last flight of my trip to Sagada. This is actually the safest place i flew the racer  :lol:
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on January 07, 2017, 10:44:29 AM
Nice pics and vid guys... Got a Bebop 1 on Christmas eve that was on sale for $149 and it's arriving on the 22nd. :D
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 07, 2017, 08:07:46 PM
(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9663293-92-YDXJ0281.mp4_snapshot_04.25_%5B2017.01.06_23.32.28%5D.jpg)

Rice Terraces!  :happy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UEQTMhoyRs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UEQTMhoyRs)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 08, 2017, 12:01:38 AM
Nice pics and vid guys... Got a Bebop 1 on Christmas eve that was on sale for $149 and it's arriving on the 22nd. :D
Masaya yan. Have fun!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on January 18, 2017, 07:59:21 AM

Compilation of five days of flying in Sagada  B)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUuFhmhvaWQ


The quad survived!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on January 23, 2017, 04:55:45 PM
(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/johnmikhail/20170122_224335_zpsmm4nk0wt.jpg)

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/johnmikhail/20170123_162444_zps9ns7rv2m.jpg)

(http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/johnmikhail/20170123_162533_zpsdk2nern8.jpg)

 :happy:
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on January 23, 2017, 07:48:30 PM
What kind of Parrot is that? It looks much better then the old one!
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on January 23, 2017, 08:06:06 PM
Parrot Bebop 1, I got it on sale for $149, the newer Bebop 2 sells at $399.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 24, 2017, 09:51:03 AM
^nice
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Louie on January 25, 2017, 02:20:39 PM
How's the range on the wifi and is there lag?

Our original AR.Drone has wifi connectivity problems at the moment. It likes to just drop like a brick when it loses signal from my tablet.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 25, 2017, 02:44:19 PM





(http://i.imgur.com/GVu3wHy.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/bNavD2P.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/JwPlXb5.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 30, 2017, 01:20:18 PM

First time to render a 4K aerial video with full length music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6ZPLw0FB8
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: theDUD3 on January 30, 2017, 06:17:53 PM
How's the range on the wifi and is there lag?

Our original AR.Drone has wifi connectivity problems at the moment. It likes to just drop like a brick when it loses signal from my tablet.

I'm still not comfortable flying the Bebop even though it's very stable in 30+ kph winds the max distance I've set my settings is 30meters high and 100meters far. No input lag in that distance but as with wifi fpv it suffers a bit of lag. The field I fly it in has a cell tower nearby and the interference might cause a flyaway so I'm not comfortable flying it beyond 100meters.

When the Bebop looses connection it either goes back to where it took of or where the phone/controllers last coordinates.

Pros:
- easy to operate
- open source = has apps available in ios and android from different devs
- stable in strong winds
- hovers great
- FPV
- good image stabilization

Cons:
- short battery life = around 7mins
- fpv breaks up at long distance and lags a bit
- gps sometimes take time to connect to satellites
- flightplan costs too much for a feature that should be free
- camera just ok
- Bebop needs to be powered up to transfer media

Despite the cons I really enjoy my Bebop.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 31, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mjT9Zxp.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: barurutor on January 31, 2017, 06:03:04 PM
what's that vertical flare below the sun?
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on January 31, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
what's that vertical flare below the sun?
reflection of the sun over the water.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on February 05, 2017, 01:48:22 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/a6vD19o.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/r8oTVw4.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 12, 2017, 11:39:39 AM
Comparing the 100mm RTF micro to the 120mm DIY i made last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJsdXQ_xTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJsdXQ_xTY)


Can't call it new, that thing was sent Nov 16 and arrived Mar 27.
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 23, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
That time of the year again :silly:

(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9979379-12-p1.jpg)

(https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/4/2/7/8/3/5/a9979380-36-p2.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrBHcxzCKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcrBHcxzCKE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMnYhkX5Os (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMnYhkX5Os)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on May 03, 2017, 08:11:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDQq6wbams (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDQq6wbams)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 04, 2017, 10:38:16 PM
Got some screenies before deleting the original flight videos to free up space

https://www.facebook.com/hajile.ibushi/media_set?set=a.10155256655473749.1073741826.608508748
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on July 26, 2017, 09:22:55 PM
Just got this...


(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1C_eOQVXXXXbeXVXXq6xXFXXXu/KF-S911-1-12-2WD-42km-h-RC-Car-High-Speed-Remote-Control-Off-Road-Dirt.jpg_640x640.jpg)
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on September 08, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
Speaking of RC, this will be my next project...

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2299884
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: i2mp on September 29, 2017, 01:14:15 PM
flying over Long Beach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQGsWpIPdk
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on April 26, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
Been a while since i've flown, good thing my gear still works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UprFKDAV_5Q
Title: Re: Perpetual RC Thread
Post by: Hajile on May 17, 2018, 08:55:26 PM
Compilation of flights over several days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ0Di94aH8Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ0Di94aH8Q)