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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2009, 11:57:11 PM »
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2009, 08:34:55 AM »
para sa mga nagde-decide sa 24-70 f/2.8L USM vs 24-105 f/4L IS USM
review by luminous landscape
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/28-105.shtml

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For all intents and purposes, both these are superb lenses and there is very little difference in their practical resolution.


At 24 mm the 24-105 mm lens is definitely better at the edges at f4 and f5.6. This finding is slightly surprising to me as f4 is the maximum aperture for the 24-105 mm lens, whereas the 24-70 mm is stopped down by one stop. By f8 the lenses are hard to tell apart. They are equally good at the centre.



At 35 mm the lenses are practically identical and Iíd only give a very slight edge to the new lens, and only at f4. The difference is more one of contrast than resolution, to my eyes. The 24 -70 mm seems to have just a teeny bit of flare around small details.


At 50 mm the same applies; a tad better contrast from the new lens but otherwise itís hard to discern any difference.


At 70 mm I canít tell any difference between the two lenses.
In addition to eye-balling the screen with the pictures at 100%, I made a couple of 16 by 20 inch prints at the highest resolution my Epson 4000 can muster. I cannot see any difference in the results. From the point of view of a practical, working photographer, as opposed to an optical physicist working on a sophisticated bench, these lenses are essentially identical in their resolution.


If there has to be a winner here, itís the 24-105 mm lens on account of higher contrast. The baffle mentioned above appears quite effective. I also feel that f4 is a very practical aperture for this lens, even though itís then wide open.


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Re: the lens thread
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2009, 11:30:12 AM »
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2009, 02:42:55 PM »
It's like a royal family portrait -



and it was shot using a Nikon D300 :))

anyway, when choosing between the two lenses 24-70 and 24-105, you have to ask yourself "where will you use the lens?"

In my case, it was really a no brainer because I needed the 2.8 aperture for indoor sports.

The second concern is the weight.  How much do you think can you handle heavy lenses (the 24-70 is one heavy lens)?

The third concern is usually the type of shots you usually take because the 24-105mm has a slight edge in the telephoto side.  But nothing that the feet cannot answer
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2009, 04:21:34 PM »
^^ I'm going for 24-105 as a hobbyist. Bring it anywhere lens. But I'm for 24-70 if and only if portrait photography is my profession. And yes, it's darn heavy.

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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2009, 05:16:21 PM »
yup me too, ill go for 24-105 ^__^
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2009, 06:07:20 PM »
going for the 24-105 will keep you thinking... "what will a 24-70 2.8 can do?" hehehe

in any case, bitin saakin ung 24mm for a crop body.
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2009, 09:21:55 PM »
kaya dapat may EF-S 10-22 na kasama yung 24-105 ;)
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2009, 03:19:04 AM »
Meron bang store/shop dito sa pinas na nagpaparent ng lens?

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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2009, 05:44:39 AM »
^^ I'm going for 24-105 as a hobbyist. Bring it anywhere lens. But I'm for 24-70 if and only if portrait photography is my profession. And yes, it's darn heavy.

24-70 is not exactly a portrait lens, it's more of a "wedding" lens.  you'll be wanting a longer lens for portraits, otherwise you'll be often at the long end of the lens.  24-105 would be better for that; easier to hide distracting backgrounds and less funky distortions that you get from a wider lens.  in a studio where you can control everything, primes still rock.

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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2009, 08:22:46 AM »
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2009, 08:35:11 AM »
going for the 24-105 will keep you thinking... "what will a 24-70 2.8 can do?" hehehe

in any case, bitin saakin ung 24mm for a crop body.

hehe uu nga, to think na f/4 ang 24-105. pagdating sa indoor and low light makikita ang powah ng f/2.8
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2009, 08:51:22 AM »
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2009, 01:25:08 PM »
Para sakin mas ok p rin 24-105, mas versatile. Ung 1 stop diff nya s pwede mabawi using hi iso, or kung static subject lamang k n ng 2 stops Tv dahil sa IS. Kung dof naman paguusapan, hindi lang naman aperture ang factor, focal length and subject distance can be adjusted for optimum dof. The dof at f/4@105mm and f/2.8@70mm is almost the same.

Of course not every photog is like me, that's why canon makes both.

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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2009, 02:13:45 PM »
Ok na combo nga yung 10-22 plus 24-105. Or sa uwa yung 11-16 2.8 ng tokina para pwede din sa low light.

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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2009, 04:08:18 PM »
kaya nga in the end, the choice is really in the shooting style.  In my case, lowering the shutter speed is a big no-no.  Increasing ISO in a situation where an F/2.8 and ISO 1600 is needed as a minimum wlll also be a problem
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2009, 12:40:38 AM »
kaya nga in the end, the choice is really in the shooting style.  In my case, lowering the shutter speed is a big no-no.  Increasing ISO in a situation where an F/2.8 and ISO 1600 is needed as a minimum wlll also be a problem

True. That's why I got the 17-55, doesn't have the red ring but sure gives me the IQ I love!
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2009, 06:59:51 AM »
Guys good buy na kaya yung used Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 for $300?

Lens sya ng officemate ko, magpi-Pentax na daw sya.
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Re: the lens thread
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2009, 07:58:20 AM »
EF-S 60mm F/2.8 here is about Php18k brand new.